Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki said Wednesday that Poland is no longer arming Ukraine, marking a significant shift as Warsaw has been a staunch supporter of the NATO proxy war with Russia.
Morawiecki’s comments come amid a spat between Warsaw and Kyiv over a Polish ban on Ukrainian grain. When asked if the dispute would impact Polish support for Ukraine, Morawiecki said, “We are no longer transferring weapons to Ukraine, because we are now arming Poland with more modern weapons.”
He insisted that Warsaw had no intention of risking “the security of Ukraine” and that weapons shipments from other countries transiting through Poland would not be interfered with. Poland has become the primary hub for NATO arms shipments into Ukraine since Russia launched its invasion.
Throughout the war, Poland led the charge when it came to NATO escalations in support for Ukraine. Military aid Warsaw has provided includes hundreds of Soviet-made tanks and about a dozen Soviet MiG-29 fighter jets. Poland was also the first NATO country that said it was willing to arm Ukraine with German-made Leopard tanks.
Despite all the support, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky took a shot at Poland and two other EU countries for maintaining a ban on Ukrainian grain. Since the Russian invasion of Ukraine and the disruption of Black Sea shipping, there’s been an influx of Ukrainian grain shipments into the EU.
Earlier this year, the EU agreed to restrict the import of Ukrainian grain to Bulgaria, Hungary, Poland, Romania, and Slovakia over complaints from farmers about a drop in prices. Last week, the EU said it would lift the restriction, but Poland, Hungary, and Slovakia said they would continue banning Ukrainian grain from their markets.
At the UN General Assembly on Tuesday, Zelensky accused the countries of helping Russia. “Alarmingly, some in Europe play out solidarity in a political theater — turning grain into a thriller. They may seem to play their own roles. In fact, they’re helping set the stage for a Moscow actor,” he said.
Ukraine has also said it will lodge a complaint to the World Trade Organization. In response to the Ukrainian criticism, Morawiecki said, “We were the first to do a lot for Ukraine, and therefore we expect our interests to be understood. We will defend our interests with all determination.”
I looks like the Ukraine proxy war is running out of supporters. Zeliskey addressed the UN but no one attended the chamber was empty.
Seems that only the White House is still cheering and maybe London.
It’s not just that. Poland, and the other eastern blocks are profiting highly from the grain “shortage” Ukraine has hardly any source of income.
Politics are a funny business. Countries change sides as a result of economic decisions.Zelensky is losing support because his offensive has failed and the other European nations know it.
The outcome was pretty much written before it started. Ukraine is and will lose the war, and will have much less territory than they would have if they had agreed to negotiations in the beginning. Too late, and Ukraine bought into the belief pushed by the U.S/West that they could win the war against Russia. They should have looked at the record of the U.S. in recent conflicts, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, and maybe thought twice, or three times before buying into that fairy tale.
The old saying “look before you leap” has meaning here. The Us never looks forward or backward. A sure sign of stupidity but most us knew that.
Except the Ukrainians are currently winning the war…
It’s OK. The “White House” equipment works VERY well!
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/ukraine-situation-report-m109-paladins-are-proving-too-wily-for-russian-gunners
Works about as well as Biden.
Uncle Joe gonna whip your boy!
He should have whipped his.
The only thing Dementia Joe is going to ‘whip’ is a monster sized ice cream cone.
And you are cheering Russia So there’s the balance.
Polish politicians are dreaming about annexation of western oblasts of Ukraine which between two world wars were part of Poland and at the same time they hope not to lose their own western regions which Stalin in 1945 took from Germany and gave to them. By the way, Stalin also gave to Poland about 70% of East Prussian land.
BS, I have been in Poland numerous times and never ever heard anything remotely close to your statement. The only entity that has been dreaming of taking Ukraine is the Kremlin as proven the last decade.
BS is in your head.
Putin is in your head.
No, Polish politicians know that annexing any part of Ukraine is unrealistic. Besides, who would want to have banderites back? Poland got rid of banderites after WWII, so now they are Russia’s problem. What Polish politicians want is to create the Międzymorze (Intermarium) – a geopolitical alliance of Eastern European countries against Russia. The Międzymorze project is completely unrealistic because banderites hate Poland just as much as they hate Russia. Poland and Ukraine have already started quarreling.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermarium
Intermarium (Polish: Międzymorze) was a post-World War I geopolitical plan conceived by Józef Piłsudski to unite former Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth lands within a single polity.
If the leaders of Poland act wisely, it could be very much realistic. Putin told already that he wouldn’t mind such a scenario. Hungary can take Transcarpathian region. Moldova, eventually, can be incorporated into Rumania. Then Poland and Rumania can create between themselves “intermarium” space. The advantage for Moldavians and west-Ukrainians is obvious: they will get EU passports which are of great value to all east-Europeans. Ukrainian neo-Nazi radicals are minority in their own region. It is not so difficult to hunt them down.
Banderite neo-Nazis may be a minority in Western Ukraine, but they dominate the policies. It was the banderites who orchestrated the Maidan coup. It’s the banderites who erected monuments to the Nazi collaborators and terrorists Stepan Bandera and Roman Shukhevych. The banderites hate all the neighboring countries, and they hate them right back. The whole Polish Międzymorze project is idiotic and doomed to fail. Absolutely no one in Poland wants any part of Ukraine. Good riddance.
They are dominating force in Ukraine because Americans financed them, trained and supported them in every other way. Most active part of them is dead by now. Once Ukrainian army is destroyed, the nationalistic enthusiasm in Ukraine will go down.
Watch in YouTube how Ukrainian mob greeted Polish president Duda in January 2023. Just look for “Duda in Lviv”.
NATO weapons are moving to Ukraine mostly through Poland and Rumania. Hungary never allowed the transit. Slovakia can be easily separated from Ukraine by Hungary and Poland. By the way, in 1938, both Hungary and Poland participated in the partition of Czechoslovakia. Ukrainian exit to Black Sea is blocked by Russia. Ukraine is going to be a landlocked country surrounded by unfriendly countries: Russia, Belarus, Poland, Hungary and Rumania. Slovakia doesn’t much matter and anyway Slovakia is not a great friend of Ukraine either.
Western capitalists depend on cheap food to keep the people docile. US uses semi-slave Latinos and Caribbeans chased north by destabilization rip-off policies and the breadbaskets of Europe are the poorest countries there. Why are Moldova and Ukraine the poorest? Why are those who feed war monger capitalists so poor that farmers have such a high suicide rate in the US and India?? Workers of the world will unite some day.
A Polish MP issued a ‘bill’ for $23 billion to the Ukrainian embassy on Tuesday, suggesting that Kiev should repay the aid it has received after suing Warsaw for imposing a ban on grain imports from the country.
“Morawiecki’s comments come amid a spat between Warsaw and Kyiv over a Polish ban on Ukrainian grain.” Sorry. Doesn’t make sense. The US and EU finance Ukraine. Ukraine doesn’t need to sell anything. It seems the corrupt Polish politicians are trying to steer and cover up their population’s antiwar sentiment. You know, label you as “Far-right fascist” or “Pro-Climate Crisis” to obscure the fact that you’re “antiwar” simply because war is bad for you? You know, because war can kill you and your loved ones? (Sarcasm)
“Doesn’t make sense. The US and EU finance Ukraine. Ukraine doesn’t need to sell anything.”
I don’t agree – surely Ukr and the US want a functioning Ukr economy, not least so Ukrainians – farmers and associated markets – have jobs; plus bad optics internationally for Ukraine to be wholly dependent – military, refugees (which Polish polls show dropping support for), AND economy. Best.
“war is bad for you”
5 little words, dude, 5 little words ….
“and that was all she wrote”
were you ever that skinny?
Spy, Are you breaking up with me? …Well, you don’t have to write me a letter. You could just text. …Also, should I try to grow hair like those guys or buy a wig? …LOL. It would be ugly since most my hair is in the sideburns nowadays. By the way, GREAT SONG, Spy! You’re the best Spy, forever!
when i was in high-school i wanted to be Peter Frampton.
he had the hair and he had a guitar.
and he definitely had all of the girls.
45 years later i got some hair = growing out of my ears.
OMG “sideburns” = i don’t know why, but for some reason that word is hilarious
Funny! Me too and out of my nose too. As a teen, I also wanted to learn guitar so I can play Hotel California. So I took classes from a guy who insisted on teaching me the basics like reading musical notation. “And that was all she wrote.”. LOL.
check this out = my wife keeps using my razor – i got her a brand new razor exactly like my razor but she just keeps using mine instead. what. she said “why do you have hair on your shoulders?” so i said “why do you have hair on your ankles?”
LOL
a Polish ban on Ukrainian grain
at some point some people are going to get hungry and then what?
“hey fearless leader, we would appreciate something to eat over here.
how about some cereal or maybe even just a slice of toast”
Got Milk?
Fearless Leader: “LOL. No need. They can ‘eat cake.'” (Sarcasm)
milk is disgusting
“Poland, Hungary, and Slovakia said they would continue banning Ukrainian grain from their markets….Morawiecki said…’we expect our interests to be understood. We will defend our interests with all determination.’”
Or, more idiomatically:
“Poland’s president: Ukraine like ‘drowning person clinging to anything available’”
https://thehill.com/homenews/4214502-polands-president-compares-ukraine-to-drowning-person/
So that is what was going on. Get rid of bygone weapons to replace them with current stuff. It is never good to have old and new available at the same time. Too many catalogs to be printed and memorized.
Language differences show that most of these ethnic pockets: Polish, Lithuanian, Ukrainian, Belorussian, etc. were established in pre-historic times and have survived. Endless causes of conflicts.
The start of the drawdown of support for Ukraine by E.U. countries?
Important safety tip for ZollOnsky: never piss-off the Poles.
LOL…..
Ukraine, Europe’s Bread Basket Case.
Zelensky knows he can bite any hand that feeds him because the Biden-loyal media will keep praising him and hide his true nature.
Now he also “demands” that Russia lose its veto in the UN Security Council. The vetoes exist not as a reward but to prevent nuclear war. Veto an opponent’s actions instead of going to war over them.
It’s all about Zelensky’s own future. If he loses the war to invade Donbass, or if he’d seek peace with the current borders, his political career would be over. The rhetoric in his party has escalated, and the fanatic spy chief carrying out the assassination program in Russia wouldn’t let him get away. And there’ll be plenty of corruption charges that would put him in prison for life.
So endandering the security for all is better in his mind. It’s all about staying out of prison.
Yes, … he’s either very desperate … or very stupid.
Why not both?
Most likely desperate.
Ditto, it’s collapsing as we speak. And when the news reaches the troops, there’s no money to pay them, that torrent of “Slava Ukraina” will shrink to a trickle.
Being very stupid leads to being very desperate just like shooting heroine leads to addiction, Pitting a nation of farmers against Russia, No.1 in space & No. 1 in the largest big bang weapons… It was a fools errand from the git-go.. Did anyone honest think Ukraine has ANY chance against Russia, or were they all deluded by the “Full Spectrum Dominance” crew who believed THEY could DOMINATE Russia and China to cement their Zionist dreams…????? Obviously it’s not only the Z-man who is desperate. All the architects of this war like Clinton, Biden, Nuland and the whole Neocon crew if they have even 20% of their brain functioning have to be desperate too. This war with both Russia & China is the holy grail of the ENTIRE Neocon project!! Too bad for them they picked such a big move after their Great War On Terror wasted two decades of U.S. ENERGY & TRILLIONS of dollars as Russia & China built up their Great Game economic & military heft to fight weakened Existential peer adversaries. Too Sad!!!!!
Well, that would be my dearest wish, but do you really believe there’ll be any more accountability this time? Like all the others, they’re too big to fail, got their rat lines prepaired and their numbered accounts, and their “peebs” with automatic pistols.
Doesn’t look like it’s going so well in Russia!
https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/russia-imposes-temporary-restrictions-fuel-exports-2023-09-21/
From the article: “Temporary restrictions will help saturate the fuel market, which in turn will reduce prices for consumers,”
We should have it so bad.
They hope…
Zelensky wants to stay out of prison. Biden wants to stay out of prison and so does Trump, the pro-labor cheater of workers.
The safest way to get out of prison is to die before they get you there.
UN is not so important as it used to be. This time only Biden visited it personally. The leaders of China, Russia, UK and France were absent. If Russia or China leave UNSC, the center of international diplomacy will move to BRICS. It will move to BRICS anyway. Americans tried very hard to replace UN by NATO but eventually UN will be replaced by BRICS. There are no diplomacy within NATO. NATO is a vertical organization with one boss. BRICS is different. All members of BRICS treat each other as equal.
China isn’t gonna do anything. BRICS is a joke. Things will stay the same for Russia: bad.
Cope
Your wish list becomes more & more irrational with every passing day and post. Odd that you think things for Russia R “bad” As Z-man cums to beg money from a skeptical audience while his naked troops are dying like flies with no armor air cover or hope 4 “win.” A failling project on death watch.
Keep trying, tankie.
Oh come on now Stankie.
Whoops!
https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-punches-russia-anti-tank-defenses-armored-vehicles-counteroffensive-verbov-2023-9?op=1
Replace the United Nations by the Northern Atlantic Treaty Organization?
Clearly different purposes as I spelled them out.
How ridiculous.
The far right Banderites would have no problem offing him if he steps out.
Poland is probably arming up and getting ready for its own push into the Ukraine to annex some of those western areas for itself. It would not surprise me in the least if Warsaw was already deep into making back-room deals with Moscow on this very issue. It wouldn’t surprise me, either, if Poland is assessing NATO’s ability to protect it in the event of war, and considering- despite old wounds- moving closer to Russia. Of course, this is all in the realm of speculation but we’ve seen many odd situations arise over the past two decades that were previously unthinkable.
Yes. It’s official. I’m taking “a bitchen dirtbike” off my Christmas Wish List and putting “Poland…getting ready for its own push into the Ukraine ” in its place.
Oh what a delightful scene that would create ! Pundits demanding Western Ukraine’s immediate accession to NATO to protect it from the illegal invasion of a NATO member ! All the worn arguments used against the Russian Federation now mail-merging “Polish” in for “Russian” ! Having to figure out who the leader of Poland is so we can all call him or her the “new Hitler” !
What dreams may come !
SealEnsky, balancing the world globe on his nose. Everybody clap!!!
It’s now clear Ukraine lost the war. Now Poland no longer sees any benefits to arming Ukraine to bleed Russia as Ukraine simply doesn’t have the capacity to do so. The only think that clown zelensky is capable of is showing doctored video of listening to his own speech
What could be done from where Ukraine is now? It is too late to say they should not have played along with NATO to get into this war.
How much could Ukraine retrieve by a very different approach? Maybe a lot.
Offer a lease in perpetuity on Russian bases in Ukraine, in return for sovereignty over the rest. Offer real effective protection for Russian minorities in all of Ukraine, including local autonomy, in return for re-uniting with the lost oblasts. Combine that with neutrality and disarmament, removing any threat to Russia, to become an Austria-like nation.
No compromise would be easy. None is even possible with current Ukraine leadership. But things could be done.
Peace is never hopeless, it is just hard and getting harder.
I don’t see Putin selling out the ethnic Russians in the Donbas region who are annexed to Russia as is Crimea. As the Ukrainians, the French, and the Germans showed in their lies in signing the Minsk Accords and then not honoring them, I don’t see how Putin could ever trust any agreement with them. The U.S. is incapable of making and keeping agreements also, e.g. the JCPOA.
“I don’t see Putin selling out the ethnic Russians in the Donbas region who are annexed to Russia as is Crimea.”
I agree. I don’t think any Russian leader would survive in power if those oblasts were abandoned to the tender mercies of Kiev and the Banderists. The uproar when Russian forces were pulled back in Kharkov and Kherson was an unmistakable message and the annexation of the four oblasts was the answer.
He abandoned them to the tender mercies of Kyiv and the Banderists for eight years until the death tolls decreased to single digits per year and peace threatened to break out. Clearly his supposed concern for them was triggered by something other than their plight.
I must be missing something here. You seem too smart to be this bad at analysis and assessment.
It’s called “looking at the facts without favor instead of chugging one side’s Kool Aid.”
Rachel Marsden’s snarky op-ed in RT:
Are you alright there, Vladimir [Volodymyr]? Ukrainian leader hysterically accuses the notoriously Russophobic Polish of helping Moscow