Amid simmering tensions between Washington and Beijing, Secretary of State Antony Blinken met with his Chinese counterpart Wang Yi at the Munich Security Conference on Saturday. After the White House ordered the military to shoot down a Chinese balloon which floated over the continental United States, there was a major breakdown in diplomacy. Previously, US officials suggested Blinken would take advantage of the opportunity to help de-escalate the situation and reach some quasi-détente. Instead Blinken confronted Wang over the balloon incident and warned China against providing weapons to Russia for use in its war with Ukraine.
"This was an opportunity to speak very clearly and very directly about the fact that China sent a surveillance balloon over our territory, violating our sovereignty, violating international law. And I told him quite simply that that was unacceptable and can never happen again," Blinken told NBC’s "Meet The Press." Without providing further details on the meeting, Blinken said "I can tell you, no, there was no apology."
After the Pentagon announced a Chinese balloon had entered U.S. airspace and that it posed no threat to Americans, Blinken canceled his long planned trip to China where he would have met with Wang and possibly President Xi Jinping.
Though the Department of Defense claims – without evidence – that it was a surveillance device, Beijing maintains that it was a meteorological balloon, for civilian purposes only, and that it entered US airspace as a result of abnormal weather. Last week, the Washington Post also reported that unexpected weather blew the balloon off course, adding US intelligence and military agencies had tracked the balloon since it was launched from Hainan Island, China’s southernmost province.
They expected the balloon to travel over to Guam, where the Marine Corps is opening new bases as part of Washington’s "Asia Pivot," a policy launched during the Barack Obama administration to encircle China in preparation for a future war, the largest military buildup since World War II.
The balloon was shot down by a F-22 on February 4th, after which Pentagon Chief Lloyd Austin was declined a call with his Chinese counterpart. On Wednesday, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Wang Wenbin declared Washington’s actions have "had a grave impact on the efforts and progress made by China and the US in stabilizing bilateral relations" since President Joe Biden met with XI in Bali last fall. Beijing also said that at least 10 US high-altitude balloons have flown over its territory since last year.
Wang also pointed to the heavy American military presence in waters surrounding China, saying "US military vessels and aircraft conduct frequent close-in reconnaissance on China, including 657 sorties last year and 64 sorties in January this year in the South China Sea alone, which seriously undermines China’s national security and regional peace and stability."
Blinken says he emphasized Washington’s "deep concern" over information he claims the US has that shows China is considering providing "lethal assistance" to Moscow as well. "We’ve been watching this very, very closely. And, for the most part, China has been engaged in providing rhetorical, political, diplomatic support to Russia, but we have information that gives us concern that they are considering providing lethal support to Russia in the war against Ukraine."
"We see China considering this. We have not seen them cross that line," he asserted. "We are concerned that this is something that China was not doing for many months but may be considering now," adding if China crosses that line it could spark a "new Cold War."
Blinken said the US is only sharing this intelligence with allies right now and implied it reveals a sudden shift in China’s posture regarding the war in Ukraine. In response to a question about how "lethal" support is defined, Blinken clarified "everything from ammunition to the weapons themselves."
"To date, we have seen Chinese companies and of course, in China, there’s really no distinction between private companies and the state. We have seen them provide non-lethal support to Russia for use in Ukraine. The concern that we have now is based on information we have that they’re considering providing lethal support," he said.
Earlier this month, the Wall Street Journal reported that Russian customs records show "Chinese state-owned defense companies shipping navigation equipment, jamming technology and jet-fighter parts to sanctioned Russian government-owned defense companies." The report also discussed other "dual-use" goods making their way to Russia from Chinese companies, both state-owned and private.
If Blinken’s unverified claims proved to be true, this would mark a significant shift in China’s foreign policy. As analyst Ted Snider has explained,
This increasingly close and comprehensive [China-Russia] partnership is not refuted by China’s restraint in helping Russia militarily in Ukraine. China has continued to support Russia diplomatically and economically. Expecting China to abandon restraint and come to Russia’s aid militarily is expecting too much. Neither China nor Russia believes in Cold War-style alliances. Though their extraordinarily close strategic partnership approaches a quasi-military alliance, it falls importantly short of a military alliance: there are no mutual defense obligations. The two countries will never oppose each other, but the partnership respects the right of the two countries to pursue their own interests. China would come to Russia’s aid only if China’s security interests were threatened. That could happen if China sees an existential threat to its strategic partner. But its restraint so far is consistent with the relationship.
At the same time, in addition to the new Marine bases in Guam, the US has been greatly increasing military pressure on China. In recent weeks and months, the US has sailed a guided missile destroyer through the sensitive Taiwan strait, committed billions of dollars in military aid to Taiwan, expanded US National Guard training programs with the Taiwanese military, worked on deals to gain exclusive military access to the Federated States of Micronesia. In addition the US Navy sailed an aircraft carrier strike group into the South China Sea to conduct war drills with the Marines, secured an agreement with Manilla to gain access to four more military bases in the Philippines and awarded contracts to begin work on a new radar installation in Palau, announced increased cooperation between American and Japanese armed forces for a future confrontation with China, and made plans to deploy additional Marine units armed with anti-ship missiles along the Okinawa islands.
The hawkish Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) demanded the world "come down hard on China" if Beijing provides Russia with weaponry. He said it would be the "most catastrophic thing that could happen to the U.S.-China relationship. … That would change everything forever."
Linda Thomas-Greenfield, the US ambassador to the United Nations, also warned that if China arms Russia in its fight with Ukraine "that would be a red line."
In less than a year, the US has funded Kiev with well over $100 billion in mostly military aid. Last week, top Russian diplomats issued dire warnings that both Washington and its NATO allies have crossed all of Moscow’s "red lines" and war with the US is close.
Connor Freeman is the assistant editor and a writer at the Libertarian Institute, primarily covering foreign policy. He is a co-host on the Conflicts of Interest podcast. His writing has been featured in media outlets such as Antiwar.com, Counterpunch, and the Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity. He has also appeared on Liberty Weekly, Around the Empire, and Parallax Views. You can follow him on Twitter @FreemansMind96.
Somehow Mr Wenbin was able to maintain a straight face when speaking to Blinky about the Balloon. Russia doesn’t need any weapons from China, they have plenty. The actual War begins in a couple of hours or so and should be over in a couple of weeks.
Right, because the way to get China to listen to us on Russia is to raise tensions through the roof and encircle China with military bases. That will really push China away from Russia!
What the hell are these neocons thinking? Are they even thinking?
Neocons and thinking don’t go together. Listen to Nuland, if you can stomach her long enough.
They do think – the real problem is what do they think about!
What she says makes no sense, if she would think logical and were honest we would know what it is she thinks.
She makes no sense to someone who really knows what’s going on – she and her husband plus even more members of that family run a highly successful war business. see A Family Business of Perpetual War March 20, 2015
The MSM watching masses have no idea what’s going on due to the fact that their so called journalist are A not willing and B not allowed to correctly interpret her or any other Neocon’s fact free war mongering illogical narrative.
Here’s the thing – The MSM journalist are bought and paid for…they know exactly what not to publish and then there are those who are supplied with a prewritten script and simply place their names below it.
”Nothing makes someone understand something like when they realize that a wrong answer to a question will have a negative effect on their next paycheck.” [Sinclair]
Wow, I had to get old to find out how corrupt our government really is. I canceled cable some time ago because I believe the moderators and journalists sold out and left their integrity outside for million $$ salaries.
Yes, Biden made lots of money in Ukraine, if nothing else Hunter laundered it. They are paid killers, and they never have enough. The elite works together and my guess is that the Europeans are in the same bed together.
And make sure you have nothing in your stomach Renate, or you’ll involuntarily expel it.
A Neocons career is entirely dependent on creating military conflicts from which they receive kickbacks.
Another word for that is treason.
Pink Floyd’s *Money* on constant loop.
US sovereignty doesn’t extend to the ICC or the South China Sea.
However it would definitely help if the hypocritical US were to ratify international law and treaties for all to see.
Ratify and obey.
That would be perfect – however unlikely to occur anytime soon [but I hear ya]
If the US would follow international law and stop meddling in the internal affairs of other nations then all this trouble would not have happened.
adding to that, if Russia would follow international law and didn’t invade Ukraine, this would not have happened either.
Russia was following international law when it intervened in Ukraine. Article 51 of the UN charter allows for collective defense operations. Russia was defending the regions that it had just recognized as independent, two days before the start of the SMO. Sorry to bust your bubble.
So if the US regime decides to “recognize Sakha as independent,” it’s perfectly legit to station US troops in Yakutsk to “defend” it, right?
If Sakha consents to it. What would be wrong with that? Ignoring that the US will steal the money from their citizens to pay for it.
Let’s go in order. No US involvement, no war. So, your point would be moot.
Blah blah Mr. I support Putin annexations.
Can’t respond so back to the standard garbage. And should I bring up you being an admitted Putin fan boy again?
The US hasn’t even bothered to ratify international law –
The US has threatened the ICC for daring to consider investigating US war crimes in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Now that you’ve got me going – there’s this from my tiny little archive….
US Military Leaders May Face War Crimes Charges In International Court [The Mind Unleashed]
Correct. Like the Russian Federation, the US initially signed the Rome Statute treaty placing itself under ICC jurisdiction, then withdrew that signature (China didn’t withdraw because it never signed).
Let me add that a great website that documents lots of US meddling in other countries, especially through western NGOs, is Brian Berletic’s New Atlas channel. Brian’s numerous guests also do a great job helping Brian dispel a lot of western myths about supposedly evil (compared to western) foreign leaders, and show how the west is a master at the art of projection.
I almost forgot. Brian provides links to all the sources he uses in the video description below the videos. He is very thorough in referencing every issue he brings up.
I recognized him he’s a good source.
Brian is definitely someone to watch. I thought his recent piece that illustrates how and why rebellions were incited in the Solomon Islands was brilliant.
Most people are not yet emotionally involved in this attempt at regime change. So, they can see how it’s done 𝒃𝒆𝒇𝒐𝒓𝒆 the State Department has had a chance to create a misleading legend for American viewers.
https://youtu.be/IWczijf9PJE
The nation which claims the credit for introducing the Nuremberg principles has never abided by them – for some dark and mysterious reason they claim to be ”exceptional” accountable only to their true masters the creme de la creme of the financial pyramid.
The shear arrogance of Blinken is astounding!
You can’t make this crap up. It’s all right if we do it. It’s not all right if anyone else does it. It’s all right if we send troops into Syria and take military measures to steal their oil and agricultural products via military force. We’re not there to help the Syrian government fight off ISIS, we’re there to topple the Syrian government because we have decided that government does not have the right to govern in their own country.
There’s really nothing more to say about the present regime in DC. They will take us to the highway to hell. My only wish is to hear that DC is gone before we see mushroom clouds over the Sac valley. That at least would give a measure of satisfaction that we’re not to be extinguished in vain.
I have, during the course of my life, not liked or approved of a few administrations that came to DC, with or without my vote. Most I learned to live with. But the present one is loathsome to a degree I’ve not experienced all the way back to 1952.
Hear hear…Brilliant post !!!
That’s the rules based order. We make up the rules everyone is expected to follow, or else. We change them whenever we want. There were no rules nor order before the US invented these concepts, apparently.
I agree with you wholeheartedly, but I really don’t think the present administration is any different from the previous administrations. This sh*t didn’t just start happening with the present administration and has been in the works for decades. Biden just took the baton and is running his leg of the race. Of course, “running” is relative.
My last sentence pertains to the likely outcome if we continue this course all the way past the trip wire, an event which would automatically qualify us for the worst presidency ever, as I am well aware of the dreadful history of US presidencies starting with the end of WWII (and to a degree, before). Having said this I agree with your qualification – wholeheartedly!
Blinken accusing Beijing of “violating” US sovereignty with its balloon. Blinken said he received “no apology.”
because china said it was a weather balloon and demanded an apology of their own
This is from the president’s speech in the first vignette of my story, it was finalized on 11-11-22. There are now 31 vignettes and I’m sending them via balloon to Europe before I start on the vignette 32;
“Back off all of you pinko commies. The torch of American freedom can incinerate nonbelievers in white-hot nuclear explosions before you know it. American democracy is clear on that. Pentagonian civilian morale handlers are grateful for all EuroAmerican people backing defensive war against China, Iran and Russia.
“Adversaries must quit what they are doing and do what they’re told or we will see their ashes on our teevees during dinner dispatches. Do the rules-based order two-step or else. We know what’s best,”
Thank you Connor Freeman for laying it all out so well for us. I was going to comment, but from looking at the many fine comments already posted, it looks like everything that needed to be said has already been said. All I can say is that it’s amazing that these people in the west expect the rest of the world to take them seriously, when they say such blatantly stupid things.
Can we send Blinken somewhere for training on how to be a diplomat? Maybe he can get some of that “expedited” training we’re giving Ukrainians on our lethal weapons. First lesson would be on him learning what the word hypocrisy means.
A hopeless task, I’m afraid. Blinken is damaged beyond all hope. Just another poster boy for the Peter Principle.
So when WE provide arms and support to the Saudis invading Yemen, that’s GOOD; and when Iran provides support to the Houthis who are BEING INVADED, that’s BAD; and when Iran provided support to the Iraqis after we invaded that was BAD, but we provided support to the Afghans when Russia invaded, and that was GOOD, and when we assisted Kosovo in seceding from Serbia that was GOOD, but Russia assisting the Donbas and Crimea from seceding in Ukraine is BAD, and when we provide support to the Ukrainians, that’s GOOD, but if China were to provide support to Russia, that would be “unacceptable” and BAD.
My country’s government disgusts me. And lest one think this is “partisan”, these policies go back decades, and indict a whole pack of miserable bastards including Bush 1, Clinton (Bill and his hag of a wife), Bush 2, Obama, Trump, and Biden. May they all rot in Hell.
Javy,
Very good points, but I would to add to the Kosovo comment if you don’t mind.
“and when we planned & orchestrated Kosovo‘s bid at secession from Serbia that was GOOD. After BiH in 1995, we put it into full gear in 1999 with the bombing of Belgrade 500km north of Kosovo. We even nailed the Chinese embassy for good measure!
In addition, we setup another proxy state and military base in the Balkans, Camp Bondsteel, just in case we have to deal with those pesky Serbs again.
As a measure of good faith, political trust, and solidarity, our Secretary of State, Madeline Albright, allowed herself to be invaded by the leader of the KLA terrorist group, Hashim Thaci.”
Hear hear. May they all, indeed. Liars to the end.
Hear hear. May they all, indeed. Liars to the end.
Better Blinken than Sullivan. Sullivan is just as bad, more dangerous, as he has a functioning, working brain.
The Chinese will take Blinken with the seriousness he deserves.
as Edward Snowden tweeted,
“…… please tell me the white house did not spend the month of February scramblingjets to fire $400,000 missiles at the local hobby club’s TWELVE DOLLAR BALLOON……..lord have mercy.”
Sorry. I could not resist it. I am beyond exasperated.
Same guy who also tweeted this just 1-2 weeks before the Russian invasion in Feb 2022.
https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/1493646431743356931?lang=en
Yeah, Snowden was wrong about the Russians not launching their SMO so it’s OK to shoot down $12 party balloons with $400,000 missiles. Got us on that one. Yep.
Unbelievable.
I know, right!
I was being diplomatic. Let me fix that. Unbelievably stupid.
Are you unwell?
Or what? We’ll start a war we’ve been planning on starting?
Hmmmmm………..
So this is what we have:
1) You can never, ever, and I mean it, send weather balloons over the USA again even though we send them over China. Oh yeah, you better talk to the good Lord and make sure that the wind doesn’t blow them in the direction of the USA as well. We gonna get mad. Ok?
2) Only we can provide support to the war in Ukraine. You’re not allowed to help the Russians because we say so. Also, it’s not fair, because we’re going to have to help more and we just don’t like having to do that. We’re also allowed to destroy, destabilize, install puppet governments, supply weapons to and exploit any country on this planet. Ok? It’s our business and we do it for the good of everyone. No one can complain about that either.
3) Just because we continue to set up military bases in countries off the shore of China, so we can invade or attack you in the future, doesn’t give you a reason to be concerned. Remember, this is our business and you have no right to complain about our warships and ongoing military exercises off your shore.
Sounds like this big, spoiled, baby needs a smack on the bum.
I just want to try to draw some kind of reality line here. Government officials keep saying the scary Chinese balloon was directed over and loitered above sensitive military sites, and Blinken even went so far as to claim it actually backed up. NO IT DID NOT. High resolution images of the balloon make clear it had no propulsion system, indeed I’m not aware any spherical balloon has ever had one. It absolutely could not be maneuvered or loitered, and it certainly could not back up in the jet stream. I’m an aerospace engineer and pilot and I’m not speculating, I’m saying with absolute certainty that it’s physically impossible, but people couldn’t be whipped up over a balloon drifting aimlessly in the wind so it was given magical powers of navigation. The government knows it can say whatever it wants, basic flight dynamics be damned, and I guess everybody with actual knowledge of the subject knows they better keep it to themselves.
addendum:
The Wikipedia page on this is owned by the MIC. The most outlandish lie is that the balloon had a propeller. No it didn’t, and a propeller powered by solar panels trying to maneuver a spherical balloon in the jet stream is laughable anyway. The party line is that the balloon originally targeted Guam and Hawaii but was blown off course and was flown over mainland US missile bases instead, which even without the realities of balloon flight dynamics sounds like something out of a comic book. THE WAR MACHINE CONTROLS THE NARRATIVE, AND LIES AS A MATTER OF COURSE.
Careful, Ted, now the Regime’s got you in their crosshairs!
I have a copy of a government document listing me as a “known protestor”, and the cool thing is that it’s off a typewriter and kind of retro and grainy so I blew it up and put it on a t-shirt, had I made it to DC Sunday I would have worn it. Maybe next one.
Ted, wear that “designation” as a badge of honor! 😁
I was planning on Ann Arbor but the roads were sheets of ice.
I won’t be happy until the Regime lists me as possible/probable revolutionary 😉
You have to start at suspected associate protestor and work your way up.
Brilliant !!!
edit, have you considered selling these online?
Got me thinking about it.
There is no Reality coming out of Washington…! It’s been that way for years…! So I suggest you preserve your engineering comments for real stuff…!
Ah, that’s it – magical powers of navigation. The defense industry is drooling at the money that can be
wastedspent on this one.I’ve actually given some thought to a high altitude interceptor drone which could do the job cheaper and cleaner but I don’t suppose that would be considered an option, and getting a security clearance would probably be a problem with all these posts.
China:
F*ck you, ByeDone. You ain’t the boss of us.
Prattle and threaten all you want, yer nothing more than a fly to be swatted on the wall.
We are CHINA and like it or not, we already rule the world. Take that and stick it where the sun don’t shine.
Blinken declares China will cross a red line if China sends military equipment to Russia……
China responds by launching more weather balloons…… This time they have big middle fingers painted on their sides.
China fined Raytheon and Lockheed Martin a total of $14.4 Billion US dollars (double the amount of the recent arms sales amount to Taiwan), within 15 days, or the fines will be increased. If they don’t pay it, China will confiscate the amount from their financial interests in China.
According to the latest round of sanctions, the two firms will be prohibited from any export and import activities and new investments in China. Their senior executives will be barred from entering China while those who are now in the country will be unable to renew work and residence permits.
Blinken Warns US FM Against Providing Military Support to Ukraine