Tensions continue to rise between the US and Russia this week on the heels of a failed,
US-backed coup in Venezuela. The US is blaming Russia, at least in
part, for the failure, while Russia is warning the US against meddling
in the country.
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo spoke with Russian FM Sergey Lavrov, with
Lavrov warning the US that it considers the US interference as a
“flagrant breach of international law.” Pompeo argued that continuing to
oppose regime change was “destabilizing” for Venezuela.
Pompeo claimed on Tuesday that President Maduro was set to leave
Venezuela for exile on Tuesday, but changed his mind when Russia told
him not to. Russia has denied that this was the case, claiming it was
part of America’s “information war.“
When the coup was in progress, Mick Mulvaney said that in the US view,
Russia and Cuba were “not supposed to” intervene on behalf of the
Venezuelan government. Russia, however, has continued to support Maduro,
and that doesn’t seem likely to change. With US and Russian views of
Venezuela’s future both starkly different, this is likely to remain a
source of tension for some time.
What difference does it matter any more? If the announcement of new generation weaponry did not make a difference in chatter box of politics, how much worse can it get? Trump thought that he bought off neocons to get Mueller off his back and give Abrams Venezuela. Now, they will bite chunks off him, until he approves military action. Hope he knows best.
Venezuela is divided between natives and city.
How was buying off the neocons going to get Mueller off of Trumps back?
I watch patterns. Trump has given away a great deal in irder to get a deal — end of Mueller investigation. Nd he ended it in a classic manner. He left a tiny door open to allow War Party to continue investigation. Trump of course knew it, and is gearing for trench warfare. But let us see what was given up — Korea indecision to keep South Korea from deepening relationships with North, stall in Syria, muddy position on Iraq, suddenly put a break on Afghan negotiations in Doha, mud in Libya. All meaningfull cooperation with Russia has been stopped, and supremacist tone against anything Russian is in full blast.
And then there is Venezuela. Given away to death squad prince, Abrams.
Now, the pressure on Trump will be immense to put that military toe into Venezuela. All — repeat all — media, is in interventionist, militant, neocon corner. Fox included.
How will Trump avoid this mess that would doom his reelection as well as second term if any.
Venezuela is divided between two people. Urban elites if European ancestry, always in control of the country until Chavez. Chavz gave power to native Venezuelans, meaning he gave them ID so they could vote. The whole mess is so racially charged, and this resonnates in many Latin American countries.
The pictures on TV showing crowds protesting were earlier — in the days people thought election was to be reexamined. But Guaido lost support once he became annointed by the West, and the compliant countries.
Kerp in mind that Mexico has not recognized Guaido.
The day of the “coup” people did not come out. Guaido’s group of professional protesters were on the street. The pictures of some trucks driving into crowd were so fake, it is laughable. The truck just drove into crowd, nobody hurt, and the truck just sauntered off low speed — without anyone around as much as hitting the truck, or trying to open it. There was no police or military present. The smoke bombs were not tesr gas, as people were not affected. It was theatrics.
What is worrysome — a sniper activity to get some casualties. And as Ron Paul said, Guaido is now mire valuable dead then alive. The explanation for failure was crazy — there were pitential defectors that did not come true, or Cubans, Russians, etc. The list of forbidden nationalities is growing.
But what is next. Neighboring countries do not want war. And VAST majority of native Venezuelans will fight. They are armed and organized.
This may end up another Vietman. With alliances in the region breaking down — and the underlying tensions between natives and descendents of colonizers and battle for conttol getting into open.
This will not work domestically. Venezuelans in DC attacking Guaido embassy a small taste. This will break simple consensus in Florjda — the simplistic Cuba story. Rubio is playing his fathers and grandfathers politics. Thise days are gone. Venezuela will rip these narratives to shreds. It will take a while. Narratives have staying power even when they are past their sell by date.
Hope Trump figures this out, as Venezuela can do wonders for all those that wanted to get US away from their region and their borders. A perfect way to have US entangled in Latin America, and lose staying power in the Middle East, Asia or Africa. The stretch is already bad. Venezuela can count on arms supply and training, intelligence and economic assistance. There is no food crisis at present, and escallation of anymosity will draw other countries in — with dire consequences to their economies, Neocons are zealots and have their fantasies of world order. Thise fantasies crashed at the gates of Damascus.
Where it goes from there? All possible geopolitical options are open.
Actually US peace protesters took over the DC embassy with Maduro’s permission. The CIA has been organizing counter-protests outside the embassy calling them Guaido supporters. The CIA has not been able to take over the embassy in DC because of the codepink protesters squatting in it.
Thanks for the information. i did not know about Code Pink participation. There is hope. We need another war like a hole in our head. We will get stuck — we break it, we will own it. They are already blaming Russia just for being there in the country, as if the presence of other nations in whatever capacity in other sovereign nations is limited to only chosen people ordained to order the world according to its zealotic vision.
Still confused. So Mueller was just waiting until Trump gave enough to the neocons to end his investigation?And would Trump have a different goal in Venezuela if there was no pressure to cave to the neocons? I have yet to hear him say anything different than what they are saying. Or is he just trying to avoid having to go to war to accomplish their goals while still wanting the same ending, regime change?
Not confusing at all. Mueller had nothing on Trump. They both knew that. But Trump had to demonstrate over a year that he can go back and read from the DeepState script like all the others.
In return, he would hope that the report would be more cordial and thus stop the investigations.
My guess is that we’ll see the true face of Trump during his 2nd term.
Or perhaps, the Prez watches and appreciates Tucker. In which case maybe he saw this woman journalist [starting at 24 seconds in] …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dMahkAIJcg
…and will consider the advice she gives at the end:
“… [President Trump] would look into John Bolton’s eyes, Elliot Abrams eyes, and Mike Pompeo’s eyes and say, “You are fired! You are leading me down a disastrous path, another war for oil…” “
And by the time Trump says those words, how many more lives will be destroyed? You talk as though anything these three bozos do presently will magically disappear when Trump reaches down to find his balls and fires them. Every day that goes by with him “giving the neocons enough rope to hang themselves” means more lives are destroyed.
Yes, wars, this is the part that pisses me off. I can’t force him to reach down and find his balls, but the sooner the better, and if it doesn’t happen by Nov 2020, he loses my vote.
Whether this issue will lose him reelection — if he doesn’t “find his balls” — is tough to say because other of his supporters have drunk the “Maduro is a brutal dictator” Kool-Aid and may support(?) the Neocon regime-change effort, while also placing the economy and immigration as more important issues. In addition to which, the Dem party is in disarray, feeding on itself in its — hopefully — death spiral.
The only bit of optimism I retain comes from the fact that the coup failure is ***NOW***, the humiliation for Trump ***NOW***, and since, in my opinion, Trump will not send in the Air Force (a useless show of weakness) or the Marines, then perhaps Trump will act sooner rather than later. And why not, since Bolton, Pompeo, and Abrams are intensely and near universally hated outside the Neocon/neoliberal DC bubble.
The Mueller witch hunt is over. Trump no longer needs Neocon support to hold off the anti-Trump coup plotters, and can now go on the offensive.
Last chance(?), let’s see what happens.
One final note: the suffering of the people of Venezuela should not be laid solely — or even mostly — on Trump. The Deep State has been trying to destroy the Bolivarian Revolution — ie Chavismo — for fully 20 years now, and this latest chapter of The-Crimes-of-the-Imperium has only just been dumped in his lap, and that in the middle of the current Deep State war against Trump himself. So, does Trump know who his real enemies are? How could he not? And has he surrendered, or is he just biding his time?
We’ll soon find out. “Interesting times” indeed!
VENEZUELA THE NEW IRAQ
When the Trump administration wants to invade another sovereign, oil producing, country and Joe Biden endorses that policy, one has to think “Iraq.” Biden is key in this thinking because his whole career he’s been a Democratic Party insider tied too establishment politics, which is run by the WORMs in both Parties, and he’s someone the Republacrate elite can count on because he’s an Iraq hawk.
These White, Old, Rich, Men that occupy the upper 1% of the economic ladder, control both parties, and they’re at it again. What disaster, remember 9/11, are they going to create so the American public will endorse another war, on another defenseless nation, and spend trillions of dollars to the warmongering defense industry, for the sake of Democracy, and corporate profit? Will Venezuelan oil pay for it? Ha! Ha!
This invasion would prop up an already propped up economy and extend the inevitable recession for several more years, very good for Trump. It would also divert billions of dollars from public programs into corporate coffers, give reasons to expand the military budget again and privatize Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and other public assistance programs to pay for it. Are you ready for this America? Déjà vu.