Saudi Arabia has issued a statement Monday morning condemning the US Senate for a pair of resolutions calling them out for the murder of Jamal Khashoggi, and blaming the Saudi Crown Prince. They called the Senate resolutions “interference” based on “untrue allegations.”
The Thursday resolutions by the Senate included a call to end US involvement in the Saudi-led war in Yemen, as well as the blaming of them for the Khashoggi murder. Saudi officials say they “previously asserted that the murder of Saudi citizen Jamal Khashoggi is a deplorable time.”
Khashoggi was murdered in the Saudi consulate in Istanbul, by a Saudi kill team. Saudi officials are complaining that the Senate noting this is “blatant interference in the Kingdom’s internal affairs, undermining the Kingdom’s regional and international role.”
The Saudis so far aren’t doing anything but complaining, though they want to avoid “any ramifications on the ties between the two countries that could have significant negative impacts on this important strategy relationship.”
You want to talk about interference – you head-chopping barbarians? Get your freaking lobbyists out of our Congress. Better yet: stop assassinating people and committing genocide.
Pull MBS into the Hague, try him for crimes against humanity, then stick him in a dungeon for the rest of his life. Along with all of his enablers, of course.
I would personally like to know what exactly happened. But then, it would be so unlike us. We are the allknowing superior beings, amply fed by our neocon owned media and politicians.
As I said many times before — there are many things that do not add up in this case. Number one — the absolutelly ridiculous timing just before MbS Saudi Davos investment conference. Two, since MbS came to power in June last year, there was a steady stream of criticism against him — as if he ruled when Yemen war started, when Qatar mess was kicked off. He was niwhere near power — more like ten year okd when US and Saudis sent Osamaa bin Laden to Afghanistan, then later worked with Pakistan and US to send Taliban into Afghanistan. And he did not have power to finance Salafi movements accross Middle East — and Islamists of all stripes into Iraq and Syria, and criwning it all with the organized, well financed romp of ISIS headchoppers across the same space. That fjnally did the trick — allowed US back into Iraq and foothold in Syria.
So — if all that Saudis did before did not cause anger and rage? Years of starving Yemen by naval bliockade did not sicken our tender politicians — the very ones approving the blockade so that wretched people could not get help — presumably from the bad Iran! But what about other countries that wanted to bring food and medicine? Why did our tender hearted senators supported our Naval blockade. And babbling about refuelling — Yenen is on Saudi border — no need to refuel.
But since MbS came to power, and our oreferred prince Muhammed bin Nayef was ousted by the Allegiance Council — our neicon universe was in tif. Why? Because he cut the Wahhabi wings by cutting their funding for Islamists fighters or Salafi communities. He did it by picking up a fight with Wahhabi religious police, allieing women to drive, go to sports events or movies. In this confrontation he got support from population — so when he clipped their wings in supporting religious cults, nobidy cared about Wahhabi complaints. MbS did it also to save economy. So, why complain NOW when he cut off the money to Syria and Iraq “rebels”? This should be cause for celebration? But no, instead media like Times or WaPo, were very hopefully speculating on how Wahhabi conflict will speed up his downfall? Our media actually was hoping that Wahhabis woukd get him!
Everything is opposite from what one would expect.
This is why I do not believe this very colourful murder was ordered by MbS. And I do not believe in anything coming out if our intelligence agencies. After all, many of its functions are managed by the same WaPo owner.
All considered, I think rhe murder was committed by the remnants of former prince power structure imbeded in intellugence and elsewhere in high positikn. And what messed things up was Turkey’s perfect intellugence coverage — as it gave NbS a lits of information in who committed it and how.
Saudis dither need mire time to asses the extent of network — and are not ready to act, ir have bern waiting for US to degrade relationship, giving them opening to court other powers. They can always do the reveal later at their choice of time.
We need to try to understand what exactly is the problem we have with MbS and his father, the King — before jumping on the bandwagon of blaming the man whose knly teal skn is — refusing or dragging feet in geopolitical matters. Like Iran.
However, if neocons belueve that Saudis will be back contrite and obedient, no good chances of that. Unless — they are still counting on moles in the system to force MbS out. To imprint upon Allegiance Council the dangers of supporting him.
Somehow, I do not think the Council would have empowered father-son duo, if they were not ready for confluct. If MbS is not remived, I see Erdoganization of Saudi Arabia on the horizon.
The resolutions are just political cover for the careers of the senators who reap the rewards for selling our country’s policy to the highest bidder.
You have to admit though you’d never see anything like this if Benny bob nutlessyahoo had assassinated a journalist.
CIA/Mossad does this kind of thing all the time, although cutting up the corpse and dissolving it in acid gives it a distinctly Saudi touch. Wonder in whose macabre collection Khashoggi’s head ended up?
Oh, I noticed that comments on Justin’s latest missive are now closed and only ‘select’ comments are shown. Hmm…
“Oh, I noticed that comments on Justin’s latest missive are now closed and only ‘select’ comments are shown. Hmm…”
Yes, hmmm. When you “notice” things that aren’t there, time to consult an optometrist or a psychiatrist.
I was referring, btw, to the “select” comments claim. No comments have been deleted from the piece. I do see that comments are now closed.
I was surprised that they were open in the first place, and assumed that this meant Justin had changed his mind. Last week he asked that comments no longer be opened on his stuff in the first place, and that all comments on the piece before last be deleted. I am not in charge of opening or closing comments, but I was tasked with deleting comments on that previous piece.
Presumably, what happened is whoever ticks the “allow comments” box or doesn’t on his stuff forgot to un-tick it, and I’ll be getting a note asking me to delete all comments again. Which is, frankly, sad, but if that’s how he wants it, that’s how he wants it.
The mystery is solved, and I didn’t even have to consult a psych!
Do you have any idea why Justin has decided against having comments on this pieces?
All I can do is guess, but my guess is that given his health, etc., he’s cutting down the number of things he has to pay attention to.
Things change by the minute here at anti-war.com. Are there now no comments to be seen or what?
Update: Oops, one!
That particular discussion is still available on Disqus, and is commentable.
I still see it as “comments closed”. Hmm…
I accessed the thread thru the disqus app, not the antiwar website. I get no “comments closed” message from antiwar, in fact, oddly, there is a short comment from Solly there, in an odd format. Glitchy stuff. Perhaps the disqus folk weren’t code prepared to delete entire threads.
I noticed they were closed after I returned from running errands. It’s his work so I guess it’s his prerogative. I guess he’s tired of being called out for polishing the Trump turd.
What the Trumpsters keep forgetting is people were choosing between turd one and turd two. It’s hard to believe anyone could be more corrupt and morally bankrupt than Trump, but you have to admit the Clinton’s are all that and a bag of dead bodies.
I was just on the phone with Eric Garris. Turns out he just forgot to have comments closed from the git-go.
If I had to speculate on Justin’s reasons for not wanting his stuff to be comment-able, I’d speculate that those reasons have to do with his health. He’s never really liked the discussions in comments on his columns, but so far as I can recall he’s also never before asked to have comments turned off. He may feel:
1) That if there are going to be comments on his columns, he needs to follow them, whether he responds or not; and
2) That he’s just not up to (1) right now.
But that’s just a guess.
There is no good excuse for destroying what was one of the best message boards online. I knew Justin was thin skinned but I never picked him for being a coward.
He throws shade on people on Twitter all the time. I guess he can’t take what he dishes out. I can’t respect hypocrisy. I wish Justin good health but not much else.
Irony, comments shutdown begins with “The End of the Weeky Standard” piece.
Yeah, I don’t recall Mr. Rothbard ever advocating Stalinism.
Hold on there, comrade, looks like you’ve had a little too much to think.
They are right in a way … They are not used to servants and the paid help talking back to the master …
Look on the bright side, we don’t have to read his b.s.
Yes, we did interfere with the Saudi’s internal affairs. To pay for our misdeeds we must dissolve any relations we have with the kingdom. That’ll teach us.