Ukraine’s President Warns of Threat of ‘Full-Scale War’ With Russia

30 thoughts on “Ukraine’s President Warns of Threat of ‘Full-Scale War’ With Russia”

1. Full scale for Ukraine, small scale for Russia.

2. “Im tired of my country existing.”

   President Petro Poroshenko

   1. With the approval rating he has he will have to move to a different country like the president USA selected for Georgia did .

   2. lol.

3. “Ukraine simply doesn’t have a military built for such a conflict.”
   But it helps a lot if NATO encourages every belligerent move made by the “Ukraine government” installed by the USA, sends ships, helps training, provides weapons, supports the lies of the Uke president (with 8% support in the polls, but who cares-he is anti-Russian) and refuses even to listen to the facts Russia gave in the UNSC.

   1. Ukraine is not part of NATO, so why should NATO get involved?
      There was a similar incident in the Sea of Azov in 2003, which led to international agreement on maritime movements in this body of water. Before, we get our shorts in a wad, this incident should be analyzed per this international agreement, by the UNSC. Hopefully, that moron, Nikki Haley, will be gone by then.

      1. There is a NATO-Ukraine Commission.
         . . .recent statement by Stoltenberg:

         Good afternoon.
         We have just finished an extraordinary meeting of the NATO-Ukraine Commission.
         NATO Allies and Ukraine discussed the serious situation in the Sea of Azov and the Kerch Strait. Ukraine provided Allies with detailed information on the incident yesterday.
         This morning, I had a phone call with President Poroshenko who requested the NATO – Ukraine Commission meeting. Because under the NATO – Ukraine Charter, Ukraine can request such a meeting if it perceives a direct threat to its territorial integrity, political independence, or security.
         And at this meeting all allies expressed their full support for Ukraine’s territorial integrity and sovereignty.
         So we call on Russia to ensure unhindered access to Ukrainian ports and allow freedom of navigation for Ukraine in the Sea of Azov and the Kerch Strait.
         There is no justification for the use of military force against Ukrainian ships and naval personnel. So we call on Russia to release immediately the Ukrainian sailors and ships it seized yesterday. . .here

         1. Ukraine refused to pay their last gas bill Instead they used the money to buy arms and chase the Russian people out . So the Russians in Crimea voted to leave Ukraine And Crimea moved back to Russia . Ukraine refuses to accept this fact . This should not be hard to understand Crimea war part of Russia for several hundred years and only part of Ukraine for a few very hard years

         2. There is probably an Earth-Mars Commission in existence somewhere – that doesn’t mean that isn’t manned by folks in tin-foil hats or that its proceeding aren’t trash.

4. To many around the world the Kerch Strait Incident must seem remote and non-threatening, much like wire reports of the assassination of an obscure Hapsburg aristocrat a hundred years ago. But this incident is very dangerous, comparable to – no worse than – the Cuban Missile Crisis. In 1962 there was global fear that Armageddon was about to unleashed upon us. The smallest incident could set everything off – it could now, there are many flashpoints, but no one seems truly aware of the danger.
   The signs don’t auger well. The pattern of history is being fulfilled:
   • Power, (manifested as interest) was present in very conflict in history – no exception. It is the underlying motivation for war. Interest cuts across all apparently unifying principles: family, kin, nation, religion, ideology, politics – everything. We unite with the enemies of our principles, because that is what serves our interest. It is the one thing we will destroy ourselves for, as well as everyone else.
   • History shows that every civilization/nation eventually gets the war it is trying to avoid: utter defeat. This applies as much today as any other time in history.
   • Leaders and decision-makers delude themselves, thinking they can avoid their fate – they can’t. If survival is threatened, there is no alternative to war, however destructive.
   https://www.ghostsofhistory.wordpress.com/

   1. Russia would be extremely powerful in the Black sea .

      1. Yes, Sir, it would.

5. Here is an interesting look at how a Washington-based and highly influential think tank believes that Russia should be handled as punishment for the Kerch incident

   https://viableopposition.blogspot.com/2018/11/the-atlantic-council-marching-us-closer.html

   Unfortunately, those who push us closer to the brink will never serve on the front lines of any war.

   1. General James Jones is the current chairman of the Atlantic Council (an informal arm of NATO) Board of Directors.

      General James L. Jones, Jr., USMC (Ret.) is the chairman of the Scowcroft Center for Strategy and Security. He has spent his life serving and protecting America and American ideals. As the former commander of US European Command and Supreme Allied Commander Europe, he led all military operations for NATO and later, as national security advisor, he brought clear vision and steady leadership to America’s mission in Iraq, the war in Afghanistan, and the country’s interests around the world. . .here

      http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/images/experts/Jones_James_L.jpg

      1. NATO North American Terrorist Organization

   2. Oh, yeah?? All you need do is provide them with a uniform, a rifle with around 15 rounds of ammunition and a parachute, put them on a C-130 cargo plane and drop them off right at the Russian border. That would terrify the wits out of them, having to face an entire armored division or more of highly trained, heavily armed Russians.

6. Poroshenko, at 6% approval and a presidential election coming up in March, didn’t get full Martial Law for as long as he wanted so he is getting desperate with Ukraine an economic basket case (major industry in rebel hands), widespread corruption and misery from heating problems as winter comes on. . .from Fort Russ:

   RN has confirmed reports that there is a serious and impending heating crisis facing upwards of hundreds of thousands of people in Ukraine. This means that the people will have to flee, somehow, or those unable for any number of reasons, will freeze to death.
   There is no heat presently for millions of Ukrainians, a crisis that has an economic and political dimension. It snowed in eastern Ukraine yesterday, and in the Donbass, with temperatures dropping by the day.
   People have turned to street protests in any number of locations, in some cases they have turned to rioting.
   The hot water radiators have been turned of in parts of Ukraine, which means not only cold homes but no hot water in the tap. This means there is no way at all to get warm. In the video below, there is particular focus on some 2,ooo apartment buildings without heat – these are buildings, not units. There are somewhere around 500 people in each building. . .here

   1. Thank you, Porky, for jeopardizing your own people. It’s not Russia’s fault that your country has no heat, it’s yours .. You’re more interested in waging war with Russia (which you’ll lose badly) than ensuring your citizens have enough heat for the winter.
      The Rakhnova Rada already sent you a memo denying you dictatorial powers, for that reason. They want heat for Ukraine’s citizens. Leave Russia alone and take care of your people.

7. First, there can be no war with Russia in this case. Second, this is not only an attempt by Poroshenko to stay in power but a negotiation to get more aid from US/EU and negotiate a comfortable exit for Poroshenko, i.e., golden parachute, immunity from prosecution etc.

   1. Sort of like when Bill Clinton was up to his neck with Monica and so destroyed that aspirin factory in Africa.

8. Poroshenko is always claiming Russia is about to invade. Back in 2014 he claimed “hundreds” of Russian tanks invaded Ukraine three separate times in one week. He’s not only a liar, he’s an incompetent liar.

   I frankly hope he starts something that finally makes Putin decide to finish Ukraine off. It would be to Russia’s advantage – aside from the PR problem – to invade Ukraine, wipe out the neo-Nazi battalions, execute the oligarchs, disarm the Ukrainian military and send their heavy weapons back to Russia, install a puppet regime, then go home. Ukraine would be quiet for the next several years and the Donbass region could rebuilt itself.

   The US and NATO would be ticked off but couldn’t do a damn thing about it since it would all be over in a week at most.

   1. I agree. Porky’s always claiming Russia’s about to invade .. Heck, he claimed “hundreds” of Russian tanks invaded Ukraine 3 separate times in one week back in 2014. As you rightly said, he’s not only a liar, he’s an incompetent one at that.
      I, too, frankly hope Porky starts something that finally makes Putin decide to finish Ukraine off. It would certainly be to Russia’s advantage – aside from the PR problem – to invade Ukraine, wipe out the neo-Nazi battalions, execute the Oligarchs, disarm the Ukrainian military and send their heavy weapons back to Russia .. install a puppet regime, then go home. Indeed, Ukraine would be quiet for the next several years and the Donbass region could rebuild itself.
      The US/UK/NATO would certainly be ticked off but couldn’t do anything about it since it would be over in a week, at most.

9. Too bad for Pres. Petro that John McCain wasn’t still alive. We’d all be Ukrainians today.

   1. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

10. “Since the 2014 Ukrainian revolution…”?

    Kind of a funny way to describe a foreign funded coup d’etat.

11. If there were ever “full scale war” between those two, Ukraine would cease to exist.

    1. NATO/America wouldn’t save Ukraine nor Kiev thats for sure. They would still talk tough agaisnt Russia but nothing major.

12. Going from the hot-take title to the mundane but real-world deflationary last sentence is an example of not hysterical yellow journalism writing but its first oversold click-bait cousin. I’ve been coming here for 15+ years but lately I know to expect less presented as more, and that’s what I get.

13. This was done intentionally to inact marshall law and crush any political decidence from voting out of sync for someone else. It’s a textbook despotic solution to power grab.

14. Ukrainian full scale war, with Russia?.. Poroshenko is delusional and in all likelihood insane!

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