In a move almost certainly connected to an attack earlier this month by Israeli warplanes on the Syrian coast, an attack which led to the shootdown of a Russian plane, Russia has announced that they are going to deliver advanced S-300 air defense systems to Syria within the next two weeks.
Russia has held out the possibility of sending S-300s to Syria for years as a way to limit foreign airstrikes on Syrian military targets. This move is likely to dramatically curb Israel’s ability to carry out future attacks.
That’s clearly the point. While Russia is saying the S-300s are intended to make Russian planes safer, since they are more accurate, they are a massive upgrade to Syria’s existing S-200 systems. Russia has attributed the shoot-down of their plane to Israeli jets “hiding” behind the much larger Russian surveillance plane when they came under fire from S-200s.
The US and Israel are both objecting, as they always do when Russia raises the possibility of delivering S-300s to one of their allies. The short timetable for delivery this time, however, seems to mean this is a done deal, and Syria will soon have substantial air defense.
Guess we’ll have no choice but,to expose this systems flaws and destroy the positions if necessary. Hope Russia’s ready for the long haul. I guarantee if a Israeli pilot is shot down Assad will be terminated and Syria will be turned into Afghanistan.
Why? If an Israeli pilot is shot down, that would be legitimate self defense.
I know you’re right Israel has the right to defend itself from the Iranian and Hezbollah positions inside Syria.
Good I’m glad you agree when an Israeli aggressor aircraft is shot down over Syria, it will be legitimate self defense by Syria.
Hizzbollah is the aqgressor
My guess is that Saddam would have burned down Hizbollah
But thereis stuffthat Israel wont do
Russia is not like the United States. American foreign policy is created by Israel and enforced by AIPAC. And America pays if blood and treasure for this policy. And this is solely because of the Zionist control of the political class, the media and Hollywood. The Israeli roaches will now have to crawl back into their holes or be shot down. Putin will not subordinate Russia’s interests to Israel. God bless him.
Putin supporter
“I guarantee if a Israeli pilot is shot down Assad will be terminated and Syria will be turned into Afghanistan.”
OK, so what’s changed since two Israeli pilots were shot down in February? Assad wasn’t terminated then, nor was Syria turned into Afghanistan.
If the S-300s prove effective against Israeli aircraft, Israel and the US will whine about how it’s NOT FAIR that they’re not allowed to do anything they want without repercussions, and then start looking for other ways to attack.
What’s more effective than taking out Assad and creating a quagmire that drains resources from a country that at it’s financial height couldn’t afford to stay in Afghanistan. Now they’re in a much tighter place financially speaking do you think this is something they can afford to sustain ? Israel will continue to attack and Syria will continue to allow Iran and it’s proxies to build up. Nothing changes.
Correct. Nothing changes.
Israeli planes will continue to get shot down, as they have before, although perhaps in greater numbers.
Israel will continue to look for ways to conduct attacks in Syria without such consequences, and without further directly antagonizing the Russians.
The US and its allies may get a chance to find out more about how well Russian ECM works. I’ll be interested to hear of any US military aircraft losses to “mechanical problems” over Syria but my guess is that it’s not as effective as some Russophiles seem to believe of every Russian system.
The Russians have indicated their absence of desire to escalate the conflict, or else they would have left a smoking crater where the Knesset building once stood in Givat Ram in retaliation for their destroyed plane. How much further their patience extends is something I hope we don’t find out.
That was before this defense system was put in play.Desperate times call for desperate measures. I suggest Israel start supplying the Ukrainians with defensive military hardware aswell. One good turn deserves another.
Thomas, who is this guy?
Some jingoist who hangs out here because he isn’t literate enough to hang out with the drinking-tea-with-one-finger-in-the-air neoconservative set.
And who are you? A lawyer that’s not very good ,whose side job is to moderate a enemy ,sympathizer, propaganda, platform where everybody agrees on the same thing. I’m just the guy calling this site out for what it truly is “Plagarizied Propaganda “.God bless.
Nope, not a lawyer.
I didn’t know that you agreed with everyone else here. You have a funny way of showing it. And of course it would be impossible, since hardly anyone else agrees on everything here either.
As far as “calling out” anything, I wouldn’t trust your ability to distinguish sh*t from Shinola.
Strong comeback. Hahaha.And I wouldn’t trust your judgment either if you can’t see that everyone on this site thinks America’s evil and controlled by Israel. You’re either blind or have tunnel vision.
Well, let’s see:
I don’t think America’s evil.
I don’t think America is controlled by Israel (although there’s no question that much of its foreign policy is).;
QED, no, everyone on this site doesn’t think those things.
But you make a damn good case for both of them being true.
He’s a hasbara troll, Thomas. You are nice enough to accuse him of being a neocon. Me, not so much.
Hasbara? Not a chance. That assumes a level of literacy and ability to lay out and argue talking points that’s not in evidence.
Troll? Maybe. But even that indicates a higher level of mental function/intent than seems to be case.
Absent evidence, I treat him as what he looks like: A poor soul who isn’t very good at coming up with creative new ways to bellow “America, F*ck Yeah,” but suffers from a constant compulsion to try.
And even if so, neither hasbara activities nor trolling violate Antiwar.com’s guidelines. So the only time I mess with him as moderator is when he gets a little too flustered and starts taking his fellatio obsession into hate speech territory.
Uncle Shmuel, whoever you are, you tipped your hand, a typical hasbara Israel-firster. I hope you get what’s coming to you in the end.
Tipped my hand ?I criticize Trump, and Israel aswell you dumbass. I don’t blindly support anyone, I just understand the capabilities and the consequences of all actions in the region that simple. Just because, you support Russia does that make you a supporter of everything Iran does? Wake up they’re all the same just different flags.
Uncle Sam, although you probably don’t appreciate irony, you ought, nevertheless, to register as an agent of a foreign power, the Zionist enterprise.
Israel is a strong and capable partner in the middle east, vital to America’s interests in that region. So yes,I support there positions on certain policies that are beneficial to my country America. Can you dig it????
English is obviously not your first language.
Reduced to criticizing grammar huh comrade? Hahaha
No, I criticize your logic and attention to objective reality, comrade. Nothing you say makes any sense. Whoever you are, you’re obviously a hasbara troll.
And you are a Putin and Assad supporter
I support the interests of the United States, not those of the Zionist enterprise like you do. You should register as the agent of a foreign power.
You do not support the interests of the US.
You have no standing
No one elected you. of those who are you support the interests of those eho are anti jewish
Guess you are a foreign agent and a member of the ADL too. All for israel. Defend a foreign country no matter how much supporting the zionist enterprise harms the United States. Please register as the agent of a foreign power before posting more here. You don’t have dual loyalty; you are loyal only to israel.
I dont think the US ought to give 3 B money to Isreal. As for the rest US policy is okay.
Nogiving in to Khomeni followers Bathists or Al Qadia types just to get them to lay off the US
You are not loyal to the US you are loyal to those who hate jews
And you are loyal to those who wish to over throw the US govt and put you ilk in charge
Youhave zero stading
Your group will never win an election
Your are nothing but a radical bigot.
Go make excuses for Putin and Khamani you vile freak
How is being concerned about protecting Assadbeing pro US?
You are not pro US you are anti j ewi sh
And youwill side with whomever is too
You have no standing
No one elected you
Stop pretending you are pro USA
You are just anti j ew ish
Have you registered as a foreign agent yet?
Register as neo nazi
Zionism and those that support it here are racists, not those that seek a just solution to the Palestine Question.
Get lost bigot
Here is agoid argument for Isreal now
Bathists khomeni folowers Qaddafi followers Al Qadists are all facist bigots who cant be trusted to protect their minority groups or govern
In 1948 Isreals enemies lauched a war of anhilation .
Thats a war crime
They sidedwith the Nazis and supported the Holocaust thats a war crime
And Isreal enemies persecuted arab jews in rebenge for Israel thats another war crime
The Klan White supremacists
Bathists arab supremacists
Khomeni followers shia supremacists
Al Qaida supporters Sunni Ssupremacists
Shame on the and their supporters in the west
The Israelis learned one important lesson: Russia is not the United States and Putin is not Lyndon Johnson. When Israeli warplanes attacked the USS Liberty killing thirty-four and wounding almost twice that amount, Lyndon Johnson called back the American planes that were sent to help the USS Liberty. The Liberty was left to fend for itself. Then the cover up began with Admiral McCain threatening Court Marshal to anyone who spoke of the event. And justice has never been achieved by the survivors. And there were more war crimes as the Israelis fired on the life boats. Those responsible for that tragedy are still alive and can be prosecuted but with America an Israeli colony and the Congress a bunch of Israeli boot-licking traitors this will not happen. Russia now has restored stability. Israeli planes will endup in the Mediterranean sea if they attack now. The cowardly IDF is good against ole men, teenagers, women and children tut are cowards when it comes to fighting real soldiers.
Damn,you went back to the dusty archives to provide a point for your Russian propaganda huh,Comrade. In the meantime America’s massive military build up continues in Syria and the countries that surround it. If Russia’s not like America why are 15 of its service members k.i.a. and there response is a missile defense system? Save the scary words for the people who are scared, not the people who are out here doing the killing. Nice try though comrade ,I’m surprised Eric isn’t on here with his what happened in Bosnia story that he repeats constantly. In the meantime massive protests took place this week in Russia over corruption and raising the retirement age. Nothing on that in the Russian column huh Antiwar? Nah,you’re to busy spreading there propaganda for them.
1 ” America’s massive military build up continues in Syria ”
2″massive protests took place… ”
Then 2 shrunken balls went missing from between the American legs supporting the “massive” body of corruptions and propaganda . Americans can’t take it anymore .
You better update your poor public school education. Russia has not been a communist state for over twenty five years. Like the Israelis always do they overplayed their hand. It will be nice to see those Israeli F16s in the Mediterranean sea. The Zionist hold on America will not last forever if those who are dying realize they are not dying for America, but they are dying for Israel.
I know that Russia’s not a communist state, it’s just run like one nowadays. I use the word comrade in a antagonistic way to get under certain trolls skin on this forum.
Sure you knew–after I told you. Get yourself some more education before you comment on complex issues that you cannot understand. Otherwise you sound foolish..
This means that Israel and the US will have to deploy higher value assets to try and counter the jamming and newer air defenses if they want to keep supporting their terror army. Without air support and logistics, the terror brigades are rapidly destroyed.
The real question here is whether enough S-300 systems will be provided to defend key Syrian military sites across Syria or only the Russian airbase and naval station.
The S-300’s being delivered are intended for Syria forces to operate. Syrian troops have already been trained to use them. So they will not be used to just protect the Russian assets in Syria. Those are already protected by S-300s sent to Syria a couple years ago.
More importantly, Russia has officially announced that any enemy aircraft or missile within Syrian airspace and a portion of the Mediterranean will be jammed by Russian electronic countermeasures systems. Russia has done this before during US cruise missile attacks which is why those attacks were mostly ineffective. But that was done covertly without attribution. But now it has been made official Russian policy and other nations are put on notice.
In addition, the Syrian systems will be further integrated into the Russian systems with the Syrians apparently getting the IFF “friend or foe” codes to protect Russian planes from “friendly fire” as well as increasing the command and control of the systems at a higher level to prevent accidents.
It is clear that Russia has had enough of Israeli meddling in Syria. The next time Israeli jets attack Syria they will be shot down. Israel has been counting on the US to protect its unilateral military operations in the Middle East. Those days are numbered.
People who claimed Putin was weak and would not retaliate for the Israeli meddling are now proven wrong. Israeli pilots will be dying soon in retaliation, or Israel will have to cease its attacks on Syria.
When is Russia going to shoot down Israeli planes comrade, tomorrow? Hahaha….I guess the Chinese ships are coming to huh? Are we all going to be nuked over Russia’s puppet president and Russia’s going to take on the free world over Assad to I guess huh? Same shiii another day ,go back to the archives I’ve read it all before.
It seems that all you have is 2 balls instead of two cerebral hemisphere in side your empty skull . Keep it warm . The cold air blowing passing through the spine of IDF isn’t an one time fluke.
It’s a new dawn . Stay awake . More on the way .