Outrage over last week’s letter from Senate Republicans to Iran threatening to dishonor any nuclear deal President Obama reached is beginning to subside, and with it, a new round of comments are coming from Democrats indicating their support for, if not the letter, the sentiment behind it.
Several Democrats are now publicly expressing their support for various resolutions that aim to sabotage the talks, either by imposing new sanctions on Iran in violation of the interim deal, or by seeking a “veto” over the deal that would make it impossible for the US to be a part of the process.
“The letter’s incredibly unfortunate and inappropriate,” insisted Sen. Heidi Heitkamp (D – ND), “that doesn’t diminish my support for the legislation that we introduced.”
Sen. Bob Corker (R – TN), the author of the “veto” bill, claimed to have 12 Democrats firmly committed to his resolution, and suggested momentum is in favor of getting a veto-proof majority on it.
Sen. Bill Nelson (D – FL) lashed the letter for “trying to kill negotiations that are underway,” but likewise bragged about being an original co-sponsor of Sen. Corker’s resolution.
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This is the Israel lobby at work. They want this all to be a bipartisan issue, because if it becomes partisan, they are toast. AIPAC owns congress, either through massive infusion of cash, or through blackmail. We already know the morality of many of our pols, so it is not hard to imagine that the likes of Epstein have pictures of many of them in compromising positions with underaged honey traps.
Make note of who comes out against the Iran deal. Those are the ones who have been compromised and the ones we should be targeting for kicking out of office.
Let's get the yoke of Israel off our necks and restore the republic.
Force AIPAC to register as an agent of a foreign government.
Alternatively, all Americans should be allowed to vote in the upcoming Knesset elections.
No manipulation without representation, I say.
Yup, someone at aicrap (would be interesting to know who) is very busy these days signing checks.
you know who it it is. Sheldon for the republicans and much more quietly, Hiam Saban for the Democrats
It's no surprise that 12 disloyal democrats are prepared to oppose any Iranian deal – even though they don't know what's in it. Last year 17 turncoat dems signed on to the Nuclear Weapon Free Iran Act in an attempt to scuttle negotiations before they even started.
The alternative to making a deal with Iran is war. Some historian/economist claimed that for ordinary people war with Iran means we are back in 1932 so to speak. Oil will cost 5 times more as they will close the Strait of Hormuz. And we can't do anything about it. Also, they can sink all warships in the Persian Gulf with Silkworm supersonic cruise missiles they bought in China. There is no defence against Silkworm.
"There is no defence against Silkworm."
Why do I continue to see that myth recycled? Silkworms have been shot down (by a Sea Dart missile in the 1991 war) and induced to hit decoy barges instead of their intended targets (Kuwait, 1987).
There's no such thing as a missile against which there's no defense, and the operational history of the Silkworm isn't especially fantastic.
Silkworm or no silkworm, would you agree that any US fleet floating in the Persian Gulf will be toast in a war with Iran? Personally, I know next to nothing about weapons. Just a casual look at the map brings to mind "ducks in a barrel."
Under exactly the right circumstances — by which I mean Iran acts first, fast and, for a time, undetected — I could see Iran closing the Strait of Hormuz completely for a few days before its surface navy and land-based anti-aircraft and anti-ship facilities were obliterated; and keeping it partially closed if its early deployment included its submarine force and extensive mine-laying.
I suppose it's just barely possible that they might be able to knock off a US ship or two during that time. Substantial damage to a force comprising even one US carrier battle group? Not unless they already have, and can use, nuclear weapons.
silkworms are a pretty low rent sort of missile whose basic design has been around since the 60s. however if you fire enough of them, chances are some might get a hit.
The really important part of any missile is it's guidance system. With that being said, I assume that since the mid 1960s, the guidance system of Silkworm missiles would have been updated numerous times. So, who really knows how effective Silkworm missiles may be? Which brings up another interesting question; why is it that commenters continually make profound statements on subjects they know absolutely nothing about?
I hope that the Joint Chiefs have already forcefully advised President Obama not to participate in or encourage any aggressive action by our country or other states against Iran as it would stretch the US Armed Forces and financial safety close to a breaking point. If that is the case and if our CIC follows that advise it does not matter what these Democratic Senators want. President Obama will sign an agreement if one is reached. The UN Security Council will then vote to terminate all UN sanctions against Iran. Next all members of the UN which have Iran sanctions in place with the exception of the US, Israel, and some tiny island in the Pacific Ocean will terminate their sanctions and the Senate will be powerless to do anything about that despite its rantings and ravings. Sanction Great Britain, France, and Germany? You must be kidding because that will collapse Wall Street and the world economy. Will they do that? Well, judging from the display of their intelligence my guess is: yes they will do that.
At that point the remaining US and Israeli sanctions no longer seriously hurt Iran as it can now freely sell its oil to China and any other potential buyer (India!) except US, Israel, and the tiny island in the Pacific Ocean.
If no agreement is reached then the UN Security Council may still start the above mentioned sequence at the request of Russia and China. Will Obama veto?
I think that it is highly irresponsible of President Obama to even suggest that failure may result in war which he has done. Our feckless Senate will expand sanctions on Iran but I doubt that it will screw itself up to the level of declaring war on Iran. It cannot even declare war on ISIL. Absent such a declaration our President can credibly warn Israel not to attack Iran. Will he?
The US and NATO claim that 239 missiles in Romania, 409 in Poland and on 32 ships in the Mediterranean are to defend us from Iran ???
My (opinion) which I stated (several) times is that there (isn't) a Dime's
bit of difference between Demos and Repugs. Neither party is worth a
damn to the average USG citizen.
The individuals I hear spouting their 'Blue State' vs. 'Red State'
partisan politics are kidding themselves…
A nuclear deal with Iran in my (opinion) will reduce the chance
of a military conflict – and likely preserve the lives of uncounted
thousands of human beings. We can't afford another Iraq debacle.
It's apparent the whores and prostitutes in the USG Congress
care nothing about a human life. They're all about collecting their
30 pieces of silver from AIPAC.
When it comes to Israel, all American politicians save a few are prostitutes. The Dems were made credible by Obama then they abandoned him during the last elections, they are doing the same to him now.
Nah, prostitutes are better than these politicians.
Class solution to terrorism — You heard it first at AntiWar.com
Terrorists are too smart to be of the laboring-class, as the repetitious drudgery of manual labor is most degrading and demeaning to them. Also, they have not the intelligence of the educated middle-class, as they do not qualify for higher paying middle-class jobs.
So, this class ends up doing manual labor jobs which they hate and for the most part has no social contact with society. For neither the laboring-class nor the educated middle-class want anything to do with them and those of their intelligence are less then 5% of society.
Actually this terrorist class, it could rightly be called the criminal class. Not that it is any more criminal then the rest of society, just that it tries to take back some of the wealth that rightly belongs to the lower half of society. For the educated upper half is the voting majority that always votes to hoard all the wealth by allowing nothing to trickle down to the lower half but a starvation minimum wage.
And so, to cure 99% of terrorism and crime in America, simply pass a law that prevents the upper half from hoarding more then 75% of the wealth. That would give every worker in the lower half a living wage and end all crime and terrorism by ending all vengeance, the root cause of all criminal behavior.
Anyway, in the wealthiest Empire the world has ever known, does the upper half really need more then 75% of the wealth?
Huh? Obama has completed Clinton's destruction of the Democratic Party by leading it to the right, away from its base. Republicans win elections because labor and leftists have nobody to vote for. You didn't notice this? http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics…
AIPAC — Who gives them all that cash?
But surely, as 90% of all political donations in both Israel and USA come from the American corporate rich, just as surely do near 100% of the bribes passed out by AIPAC come from the same rich, with not hardly 1% of them either Jews of Christians.
The root cause of why we have a one-party, big-business government that never taxes the corporate rich.
Next time I get a begging letter from the Democratic Party I will send a copy of this in return.
So ……. how does ISRAEL assist AMERICA with the Russian nuclear threat?
……………………….. Israel HELPS OUR ENEMIES.
By far the most egregious damage done by Johnathan Pollard was to steal classified documents relating to the US Nuclear Deterrent relative to the USSR and send them to Israel. According to sources in the US State Department, Israel then turned around and traded those stolen nuclear secrets to the USSR in exchange for increased emigration quotas from the USSR to Israel. Other information that found its way from the US to Israel to the USSR resulted in the loss of American agents operating inside the USSR. Casper Weinberger, in his affidavit opposing a reduced sentence for Pollard, described the damage done to the United States thus, "[It is] difficult to conceive of a greater harm to national security than that caused by… Pollard's treasonous behavior."
The United States’ nuclear deterrent cost an estimated FIVE TRILLION taxpayer dollars during the 50s and 60s to build and maintain, and less than $100,000 for Pollard to undermine. Isral now lobbies for his release, having granted him Israeli citizenship.
Israel SOLD America's drone/military technology to China ….. Israel has helped China LEAP forward with America's technology.
Israel SOLD OUR miniature cooling system for missiles to China.
…..Israel, where government and business work hand in hand, has obtained significant advantage by systematically stealing American technology with both military and civilian applications. The US developed technology is then reverse engineered and used by the Israelis to support their own exports with considerably reduced research and development costs, giving them a huge advantage against US competitors. Sometimes, when the technology is military in nature and winds up in the hands of an adversary, the consequences can be serious. Israel has sold advanced weapons systems to China that are believed to incorporate technology developed by American companies, including the Python-3 air-to-air missile and the Delilah cruise missile. There is evidence that Israel has also stolen Patriot missile avionics to incorporate into its own Arrow system and that it used US technology obtained in its Lavi fighter development program, which was funded by the US taxpayer to the tune of $1.5 billion, to help the Chinese develop their own J-10 fighter.
So these democrats want the republicans to show some class and wait for a deal to be reached before rejecting it. And it only took a week before the screws were put to these clowns.
Iran to ‘Wipe Israel off the map’? Read the 600 words for yourself to confirm US/Israel CRIMINAL war lies March 9, 2015
The origin of claims that Iranian President Ahmadinejad threatened to “wipe Israel off the map” is his October 30, 2005 speech. The crystal-clear content and context prove this claim is false, and that “leaders” threatening war on Iran over this speech are committing War Crimes.
Too many people assume that is merely a matter of releasing our vastly superior forces on Iran, or Russia or both. America enjoys a technological edge but it isn't overwhelming. Either adversary would represent the largest conflict since WW2 – arguably since the civil war since Russia carried most of the weight in defeating the Germans in WW2.
Russia has proven its ability to absorb immense losses. Iran proved the same in the Iran-Iraq war. America's peacetime army is only large enough to get in too deep; not nearly large enough to finish the job. America risks finding itself in the same position as the Germans in the fall of 1941.
The US is counting on resistance to collapse immediately. If it doesn't they will have to find some way to subdue a nation of 80 million people – no small task given the track record in Iraq and Afghanistan; both countries with much smaller populations and easily exploited ethnic divisions.
Americans might initially support an attack on Iran but it won't be long before they will be looking for scapegoats. Despite all the puffing ans wheezing, I doubt many ordinary Americans are lying awake at night in fear of Iran. When the bodies come back in the thousands, there will be a reckoning.
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