Speaking at a meeting of top Israeli ambassadors in Jerusalem, Mossad chief Tamir Pardo rejected the notion that Iran, even if they were nuclear armed, constituted an “existential threat,” saying the term is being used “too freely.”
“If you said a nuclear bomb in Iranian hands was an ‘existential’ threat, that would mean that we would have to close up shop. That’s not the situation,” Pardo insisted. The claim that such a situation would be an existential threat has been a common talking point among hawks in both Israel and the US.
Pardo is the latest in a growing line of Israeli intelligence officials who have been making comments unfavorable to the Netanyahu government’s pro-war stance. His predecessor, Meir Dagan, had cautioned openly against attacking Iran, warning it would lead to a “regional war.” The comments spawned angry condemnations from political leaders.
Of course the entire question of what a threat Iranian nuclear weapons would be is purely hypothetical, as the IAEA continues to confirm the non-diversion of nuclear material to any non-civilian purpose and Iranian leaders have rejected the notion of obtaining such a weapon on religious grounds.
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Translation; like Bibi said on tape, 'it's embarassing' just how eager US MSM and politicians have been to kiss Israel's butt –on that issue in particular. That embarassment makes prudent this distancing move for public consumption; it even retains the nuclear weapons fiction as the central issue.
I wonder how long it'll take Avi Lieberman to come out and claim that Pardo is a closet anti-semite and should be thrown out of Israel and rendered to GITMO for interrogation by the lapdogs.
I believe the term is "self-hating jew" – At the risk of assuming, even though his name is Spanish, I assume he is a jew (probably transplanted from Argentina) otherwise, he wouldn't be the head of the Mossad. As we all know, Goyim cannot hold important posts in the "Middle East's Only Democracy(tm)"
Like Zionism, another Myth and Lie, invented, no-doubt, by self-hating Jews for Gentile consumption, edification, and self-satisfaction.
There may be "self-hating Jews" all over the United States and Europe, but i can assure you, thedissenter, there are very Very few, if any, in Israel. They've all migrated out of there to points where self-aggrandizement and -pity are trump.
And, my guess is that if a "Goyim" were the best, most qualified individual in Israel to run the Mossad, he or she (yes, SHE) would become its Chief. Things like that happen when you are surrounded by people who fantasize about seeing you exterminated and having orgasms while dancing on your grave.
Ever read Theodor Herzl? What a whackjob! The guy literally invented Zionism during a bout of high fever when he was delusional. At one point, he even said "Four years ago in speaking of a Jewish nation one ran the risk of being regarded ridiculous. Today he makes himself ridiculous who denies the existence of a Jewish nation.” He died young. May he rot in hell for all eternity.
The only problem with that scenario, curmudgeonvt, is that the Mossad not only has all the guns and the assassins who will not hesitate to use them, but that it also has all the dirt.
Especially on the likes of Lieberman. And, need one add, on Netanyahu?
What i find interesting is that for at least the last two Directors, the Mossad seems singularly unimpressed by and uncooperative with the Israeli warhawks efforts in presenting a united and unified front against alleged Iranian threats and the best Israeli response to such threats, IF they are real. My guess is that the CIA pays more attention to the Mossad than it does the Knesset.
The cited Washington Times article concluded not exactly cryptically that the majority of Netanyahu's Cabinet is also against attacking Iran……. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm…………
What happened to that monolithic, world conspiracy of Zionist Elders by whose protocols even the United States is but a slave that so many antiWar.com screamers seem so intense about?
If i had to bet on who will emerge alive in a rockfight between "Bibi and His Boyz" and the Mossad, i'd put my money on the assassins.
It would be great if the top level intell officials in the US call out the Zionist zealots in Congress who have dual citizenship with Israel and the Secretary of State for all their parroting of the lies of the Likud party and their propaganda outlets in the US. Both the retired former head of the Mossad, Meir Dagan, and now the new head of the Mossad have called out the Likkudnik zealots on their saber rattling. The Generals at the Pentagon only a short time ago had to tell Leon Panetta to calm down his wild exaggeration about Iran being able to build a Nuke within a year.
The reality is that it is Netenyahu and Leiberman and their followers plus a serious majority of the US Congress who do as they are told by their Likudian Handlers are in fact the Existential threat to Israel.
Mossad has several times come out and commented in relation to Iran, usually when the retoric gets to the proportions close to actual warfare, they realise that Iran isnt the pushover that they are portrayed to be by the War Hawks.
War with Iran means loss of a Carrier in all probability, especially if it is North of the Straits of Hormuz, cant get out with out a major action by the US.
And, who, dare one ask, exactly ARE these so-called "Likudian Handlers" that run Bibi and Leibi?
Little Zionistical Elderly Gnomes dispatching Protocols for all their Minions and Slaves throughout the world to adhere to? Especially, obviously, in DC (once, i believe, their main subsidiary branch was in the Kremlin, wasn't it?, sight of that vast, monolithic Communist conspiracy intent on enslaving the world under a Communist Jewish dictatorship).
Oh, oh, oh, me, me, me! I can answer that. See as their Amerikan counterparts in Washington and their first cousins in Germany, the Zionists stand to PROFIT (get that word PROFIT?) from war, chaos and destruction. So, look no further than to whom profits the most (banksters and weapons manufacturers) to see who the handlers of Bibi, Lieberman and every other war criminal since Theodor Hertzle came up with the twisted and sick delusion of stealing the Palestinians' land to form the criminal entity known as Isreal.
Zionists? Are you so completely sure that your Likudian handlers — the "banksters and weapons manufacturers" — are Zionists and not (gasp!!!) OLIGARCHICAL COLLECTIVIST CAPITALISTS!?!
If Hertzl (not "Hertzle" [sic]) and his Zionists didn't exist, it would have been necessary (like, to name just a few, bin Laden and his network of global terrorists, Saddam and his WMDs, Hitler and his Holocaust, and Lenin and his Communist Empire) to create him. Which is exactly what happened in each, every, and all of these cases.
Created? By whom? By the people who benefitted most from their existence. Can you figure that out? Can you name them as easily as you named Bibi's Bosses?
The "criminal entity known as Israel" (not "Isreal" [sic]) was created for one purpose and one purpose only: to provide a tactical and stratgeic outpost for Anglo-American operations in that region of the planet with the most easy-to-get-to oil. And thus has it been and will continue to be until it, Israel, no longer serves any usefull purpose to its Owners and Operators. And then like bin Laden, Saddam, Hitler, and the Soviet Union, it will be terminated. With extreme prejudice, if so desired.
"Zionism," like "Communism" during World War III, like "Fascism" during World War II, is a smokescreen.
Are you sure it's "Israel" and not "Isreal"?
The Russian NATO-Ambassador asked in Washington: If people from Mars had disarmed Iran completely, would you still deploy the missiles in Bulgaria, Romania and Poland ? They answered: Yes, that will be made as decided. Der Spiegel, 49/2011.
Morality — Least force possible
“But where is the moral argument? I say Iran
has as much right to nuclear weapons as Israel.”
When tens of thousands of Iran’s troops were dieing in the trenches because Iraq was using chemical warfare, chemicals supplied by US and England, the religious leader of Iran declared that to be ungodly evil. His argument for not responding in like kind — two wrongs do not make a right.
Same way today, for the Muslim government has true morality, owning nuclear weapons is a fake morality and the nation most willing to use the most deadly force has no hope of achieving moral integrity.
“Do not use force to overcome evil.
If they strike you on the right cheek
turn to them the other.”
RICH NOBILITY — HAS NO HEADS OR TAILS
No need for rich nobility of Israel to control those rich and noble of Empire USA — or any other Western nation. For they are all Zionists at heart and do love to work in harmony as they strive to enslave all the world.
Ah Israel has just admitted fear of Russian and Chinese support of Iran.
It seems the holy warriors in Israel feel fear after all. It seems their God is about to allow them to be consumed by fire. I wonder why their God would allow them to be destroyed? Maybe it's because God is tired of Israel killing people in God's name.
It's good to finally see this end. America and Israel are going to fall. America will become the new Mexico and everyone will know what it's like to live in poverty.
How does it feel Israel, to be humbled by China and Russia? To have to kneel and kiss their rings so to speak?
WHO "admitted fear of Russian and Chinese support of Iran"? HOW has Israel been "hum,bled by China and Russia"?
Why do you find so much comfort in the thought that "the holy warriors of Israel feel fear"?
i recall similar sentiments in 1948, 1956, 1967, and 1973.
It appears that some in the Israeli government are speaking up against the march to war and are trying to extricate themselves from the corner that Bibi &Co. have painted them into. Perhaps they realize, and rightly so, that a war of any intensity with Iran would be just as disastrous for Israel. Israeli intelligence and military officers have no lack of guts- we know they will fight, and fight well, when necessary- but it's also the mark of a good leader to know when your team is potentially biting off more than it can chew.
What's THIS? A voice of Reason and Realism?
Thank you, John_Muhammad.
DONT BLINK IRAN
For if Iran does not back down, if sever sanctions hit Iran and in self-defense it stops anti-Iran nations from sailing oil tankers in the Iran Strait of Hormuz, then it will be safe and the satanic West would not dare to bomb or invade. For the West uses brutal imperialism to plunder a nation the size of Iran, only it there is no chance of it leading to World War Three, only if the victim nation shows cowardice and backs down before the military action begins.
Mossad Chief: Iranian Nuclear Weapon Wouldn’t Be Existential Threat
The US of Israel (with fingers in their ears) "La la la…Iran is a nucular thread. Iran wants to innihilate poor little defenseless nuclear Israel. Iran has the nuke, Iran has the nuke, Iran has the nuke. Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran!"
What a sick world we live in. We have another year to survive while we wait for nuclear war or perhaps a virus attack that will kill a whole population.
We have the infantile spectacle of watching the Americans elect another boofhead and another episode of American Idol.
Aren't we lucky!
Just think, David…..
If Only we'd all subscribe to your Solution of Genetic re-Engineering Cleansing and Pacification-By-Drugs (with YOU, of course, as the Chief reEngineer and Injector of The Drugs — or at least Decider as to Who Gets Which Drugs),
EveryThing Would Be Saved and Better and Good and Fine……
ONE MAN’S SLAVERY — ANOTHER MAN’S FREEDOM
“What a sick world we live in. We have another year to
survive while we wait for nuclear war or perhaps a virus
attack that will kill a whole population. We have the infantile
spectacle of watching the Americans elect another boofhead…”
What a great world this is, most challenging and invigorating with real change we can believe in. What with our only purpose for life being to reach the ultimate conclusion of misery and things criminal, a point in time when all things turn toward the good, last year with the help of WikiLeaks and Bradley Manning we saw exposed a massive amount of crime and corruption being done among the rich and powerful. And with global war but a heartbeat away, our new year will surely take us a quantum leap into unknown darkness most deceitful and corrupt, where neither the mind of man nor angel has ever gone before.
“The logic being that planet earth is a wasteland of meaningless fiction…”
DARKNESS — ILLUSION OF GOOD HIDING MISERY
“I agree that the global elite are free of the control of national governments They can control us by using Their global political and economic power, but our national politicians are powerless against global elites, and so are we “voters” in national elections.”
Quite the reverse, for in every democracy there is, the voting majority is the 51% most educated and wealthy, they always hoard all the wealth and power, they always enslave the lower half of society, and they allow the global elite to have some control only if it is in their financial interest.
Non only is Israel an existential threat to Iran and Palestine, but the Jewish State is a real threat to world peace.
The rogue state of Israel has undermined US sovereignty, orchestrated Washington's war against Iraq, sanctions on Iran, waged war its native gentile population "because of who they are" (not Jewish), commits espionage and extrajudicial assassination anywhere in the world, and continues to make death threats to any group or nation that threatens its global hegemony.
In the past half century, the Jewish state has received some $100,000,000,000 US tax dollars in direct foreign aid (and far, far more $$$ indirectly) and has preemptively attacked Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Palestine and Lebanon; as well as US servicemen aboard the USS Liberty in 1967.
Israel is both a superpower and a terror state.
Israel has a powerfull military but its only the size of Texas or Ontario Canada and could not sustain a strong military attack due to it small size.The best thing for Israel is to stop being such evil corrupt murdering occuping country,or it will sooner or later be destroyed.And the Zionist will let most Jews die just like they paid for by funding Hitler in WW2.
err…..texas is actually 26 times the size of israel. the closest US state in size to israel i believe would be one of the bigger patriot states, perhaps vermont or new hampshire
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