The Obama Administration threatens to attack Iran a lot, but there is increasing concern among Israeli analysts that his heart just isn’t in it, and that the threats are empty. Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Martin Dempsey will visit Israel next month in an attempt to calm those concerns.
The visit, scheduled for mid-January, will center around meetings with his Israeli counterpart Lt. Gen. Benny Gantz and top Israeli officials to discuss the possible US and/or Israeli attack on the nation.
Dempsey had previously expressed concern that Israel might decide to attack Iran on their own without telling the US until after the fact, but in recent days his public comments have centered around the US ability to attack Iran whenever it wants to.
The announcement of Dempsey’s visit comes as the US and Israel are said to be in talks about the potential excuse to be used in the event they actually attack Iran, with Israelis said to be furious at Defense Secretary Leon Panetta for comments that seemed to oppose the idea of war.
What about talking to the Iranians and settle a deal with them instead of making them more and more enemy to the US, whichs gov. on behalf of the hatefull zionist lobby is heading towards a war with the persians. They have repeatedly offered talks which have been arrogantly and rudely dismissed by every US-Gov. in the last 30 years. Obviously only servant and satellite states are good to the US-Empire which is the real evil is this world!
Why? Talk you say? There's no money in talking. Don't you know that?
A simple Israeli ploy to keep US troops in the ME for another decade, or so. The US forces, and any coalition mugs that can be roped in, will do the fighting, and the dying. Meanwhile, Israel can get on with the "final solution" to the Palestinian problem – imho.
Of course, China has stated that it will intervene if Iran is attacked, perhaps Russia too – maybe even Pakistan, and Turkey. But, I doubt that such a scenario will bother the war hawks, after all, none of them will do any actual fighting.
"Of course, China has stated that it will intervene if Iran is attacked,…But, I doubt that such a scenario will bother the war hawks,…"
The bigger the war, the better. The bigger the war, the bigger the profits. That's the bottom line on this business. All the adversarial noises — the ideological and geopolitical blather — those are just the "promotional materials" for the profit center that is war.
It is those that forment war with countries that poses no threat should be behind bars and not Bradley Manning
Charter of the International Military Tribunal
ARTICLE 6
The Tribunal established by the Agreement referred to in Article 1 hereof for the trial and punishment of the major war criminals….
(a) Crimes against Peace: namely,planning, preparation, initiation or waging of a war of aggression, or a war in violation of international treaties, agreements or assurances, or participation in a Common Plan or Conspiracy for the accomplishment of any of the foregoing;
they are already war criminals , now we are just waiting on the war it self.
Chapter 1, Article 2, Section 4 of the UN Charter — which, by virtue of the Sovereignty Clause of the US Constitution achieves the status of fully empowered US law — states:
"All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations."
So the above is US law. Now, see the word "threat"? It means that just threatening war is a crime. And clearly, not just some garden variety crime, but a "war" crime. Which strengthens the point you make above. Clinton, Bush, Obama, all members of the US Congress who voted for the AUMF on Iraq, all members of the US Congress who voted for follow-on war funding, and all members of the military who went to war in Iraq,… ALL OF THEM,…are indictable war criminals.
Would that we lived in a system where the rule of law actually applied.
What Washington hears/reads "blah blah, blah blah, blah blah blah"
You're a troll. You have nothing of value to say. Go jerk off somewhere else.
Funny how that works. It usually takes one to know one.
Dempsey had previously expressed concern that Israel might decide to attack Iran on their own without telling the US until after the fact,
that is completely impossible…as the US I am sure has many satellites trained on israel…
Israel has not had a real conflict since 1973 when they would have had their clocks knocked out if the USA did not come and safe them. The USA provided massive replacement for all the jets and tanks destroyed and some 2200 IDF were dead. Israel must have taken a pledge never to risk their own kids in war and allow others to bled for their benefit.
If Israel wants war then let their people do the fighting. I for one see nothing worth one drop of our kids bloods in any of the cries of the war mongers in the middle east. Give peace a chance and send our money to our needy and not the greedy in the middle east.
Tom, don't fret too much. If these two mad dogs decide to go at it against Iran, they may just get what they wished for. If you read blogs outside the US, the Iranians seem to be better armed and prepared than anyone gives them credit for. Also, the rumor is that all their missiles are aimed at Israel. Surely, they've got the best missile defense system that American tax payers dollars can buy but there will always be some that will not stopped. For the first time, the mofos will feel in their own flesh and blood what war is all about. The Iranians are some of the bravest people on the face of the Earth. During the war with Iraq (which was well armed, equipped and funded by the US), they had nothing but sheer human power and they would send walls of hundreds of thousands of men to stand in front of the Iraqi tanks. The casualties and the bloodshed was surreal but it shows how determined they are. Things have changed since then, though, and they learned their lesson from that and have forged some powerful alliances and prepared themselves well. Although the last thing I want to see is another war against a peaceful country, the Master Israelites and their Amerikkkan slaves may just be in for the surprise of their lives.
The frenzy for war with Iran is nearing fever pitch. Restraining Israel should really not be that difficult. Reminding her that she has a lot to lose should make them come to their senses. Right now, they are planning an assault, but they are apparently presuming that Iran will remain supine and inert. That is absurd. Crude oil prices will skyrocket wrecking the extremely feeble economic recovery, and Israel will be hit hard by Iranian missiles. Netnayahu should expect catastrophic damage to Tel Aviv, Haifa, Dimona and Herzilya for starters. An Israeli attack will instantaneously depose Assad in Syria and replace him with the Muslim Brotherhood and grant Hizbullah control of Lebanon. The Israeli attack on Iran will topple King Abdullah in Jordan, and he will be replaced by the Muslim Brotherhood. In other words, even the Netanyahu government is not stupid enough to attack Iran, so that is why they are demanding that the US under Obama take up their fight for them. Finally, there is not one shred of evidence that Iran is anywhere near a nuke. The American public can take only so much propaganda, then Lincoln's dictum will kick into operation — and the warmongers will be turned out of office. In the run-up to the November election, it could be political suicide to attack Iran for any one who attempts it. BTW – if Obama does fall into this trap, the Republicans will turn coat in the twinkling of an eye to condemn him for it. Mitt Romney will turncoat from an unbridled supporter of Israel into an antiwar campaigner to rid Washington of its wrongheaded, counterproductive and ruinous foreign policy.
Is it that time again, when JCS has to do his pilgrimage on his knees to israel, explain himself to his masters, and swear allegiance to the state of israel and its idiotic policies. Has he visited any other countries at all?
Surely, instead of placating the Israeli by assurances that the US will continue to sacrifice its people and resources to fight Israel's enemies, the US should tell the Jews that any overt hostility against Iran will be met with massive US retaliation on Israel.
But what will prevail? Sound thinking, leading to logical steps to prevent global war, or Jewish/Israeli dominance of US policy?
"Dempsey will visit Israel next month in an attempt to calm those concerns."
Criminy, it's embarrassing on an international level. Playing suck-ass to Israel. Get on those knees Herr Generalissimo and then, tell us all how that feels.
Yo, Skulz. It is indeed embarrassing. I feel the embarrassment. You feel the embarrassment. I have to believe that some fraction of the American people also feel the embarrassment. But there is no report of "embarrassment levels" in the media. For obvious reasons. Such things are not to be spoken of.
If one assumes "the embarrassed" are an ever-growing group, kept quiet by their fear of what might happen should they speak up, a group intimidated by a feeling of isolation, of being a fringe, of being socially out-of-step — of being "treasonous" even — a group unaware of the fraction of the country who agree, and are like them in their feeling of embarrassment and RESENTMENT, …then how long before comeuppance? How long before the embarrassed start to speak up, and in doing so release a flood of "Me too"s, a flood of awareness of the situation as it really is? And with it an explosion of repressed embarrassment and repressed resentment?
When that happens, the country will turn on its heels, and sh*t will happen… and Israel will be no more. This is the pattern of five-thousand years of Jewish history, repeating itself yet again. With nuclear weapons in the mix this time.
How can this be avoided? Softened?
Dispatching our highest ranking general to pay obeisance to our masters. Talk about shameful. Still I suppose it could be worse. I don't see how but I'm sure Netenyahu and Lieberman will think of something.
Iran and Venezuela — The evil duo
Our darling 51% voting majority owning all our wealth, and having doubled their capital due to our brutal imperialism and plunder, exactly what does Obama perceive that such a greed rich bunch of war-hawks would want him to do?
ANSWER
(1) Do what would provide the greatest “stability” for long range investments in our defense economy.
(2) Do what would enrich the corporate rich, as they are the sacred cow from which all our milk of prosperity flows.
(3) What with Iran and Venezuela being the only two oil rich nations not in full support of our Empire ruling god-king over worldwide oil, they being the danger of a good example that could spark a rebellion, do we have any choice but to bomb – invade – occupy such an evil duo?
US to Isreal: "Yes, massa. Anything you say, massa. Thank you, massa, may I have another?"
America needs to stop being israel’s whore.
Reclaim American independence!!!
High Society — One big happy family
TheDissenter
“US to Israel: “Yes, massa. Anything you say,
massa. Thank you, massa, may I have another?”
You see, TheDissenter suffers the illusion that the corporate rich who rule Israel are somehow not in perfect harmony with the corporate rich that rule Empire USA.
But, why should the High Society of one Western nation ever be out of harmony with the rich nobility of another Western nation?
Did not the rich ruling class of all Western nations collectively fund, arm and control Israel in 1948, so that the Zionist state could establish a dictatorship over all of Palestine?
Have not all Western nations achieved great “stability” for their oil investments in the Middle-East, thanks to the high degree of terrorism achieved by the Zionist state?
And the end result of 9-11, has it not become a gigantic money maker for all the corporate rich in all the imperial Western world?
Israel has the US and the rest of the world blackedmailed! They threaten to use the Samson option (if they are on the loosing end of a war) They will blow up the world. Why do you think they are developing ICBMs? So they can reach the USA THEY ARE THE REAL THREAT TO THE WORLD. The US and Europe has created a MONSTER!!!!!!!!!!!
High Society — Always in loving harmony together — Always laugh all the way to the bank together
JOHN JOHN
“Israel has the US and the rest of the world blackmailed.”
ISRAEL
12 super-rich families that own 80% of the wealth in Israel
US
High Society which owns 80% of the wealth in US
REST OF THE WORLD
High Society of the Western world which owns 80% of the wealth in the whole wide world
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