Following up on several threats they issued throughout the month of November, the White House today warned that President Obama may still veto the defense bill over a provision that requires military custody for those detained without trial on suspicion of terrorism.
Incredibly, the prospect of detaining American citizens indefinitely without even the pretense of due process isn’t the reason for the objection. Rather, the administration says that the decision on whether to keep “suspects” held for all eternity in a military brig or in some sort of civilian-run prison system should be entirely up to the president and they believe that the Senate is “micro-managing” the situation.
Sen. Carl Levin (D – MI) has defended the provision, insisting that there are a number of loopholes in the bill which would allow the president to conduct show trials or detain suspects in civilian courts in special cases, and with no real oversight.
The ACLU has been critical of the policy, saying that as worded it would given the president the power to order the military to capture any civilian on the planet, including US citizens inside the United States, and hold them without any access to the court system. Again, there doesn’t seem to be any dispute that this is what the bill says, and among politicians the only question is whether or not to given the president the option to have them held by civilian police instead.
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America is cursed by the idiots WE elect to rule over us. So, America had a Republic and pissed it away. My money is on Dear Obama signing that fascist legislation. Oh yeah…
"The ACLU has been critical of the policy, saying that as worded it would given the president the power to order the military to capture any civilian on the planet, including US citizens inside the United States, and hold them without any access to the court system."
Come on, don't you trust your government? What could possibly go wrong?
Our leaders are psychopaths.
THE SOCIOPATH IN THE OFFICE NEXT DOOR – 11.19.10
One out of every 25 has no conscience or sense of right or wrong. What to do when you work with one.
LEADERS ARE MORE LIKELY TO BE SOCIOPATHS
People without a conscience don’t need to satisfy the drive to bond and can focus entirely on the drive to acquire, making them more likely to seek leadership positions.
Talking about them getting into leadership positions and they probably get into them out of all proportion to a percentage often population, we estimate they maybe 2% to 4% of the population are such people. And we think they get into the leadership positions maybe 8% or 10% of the time, but you know, any percent is a mess because they can wreak havoc in exploiting other people.
A WARNING FROM THE ANCESTORS – PSYCHOPATHS IN FOLKLORE AND FAIRY TALES – Nov. 20, 2011
PSYCHOPATHS RULE THE WORLD – Oct 29, 2011
. PSYCHOPATHS RULE OUR ENTIRE WORLD – POLITICIANS AND BANKERS ARE ALL PSYCHOPATHS – OCTOBER 15, 2011
Politicians and Bankers are all psychopaths. Just take stock traders for ex, which are proven more psychotic than actual psychopaths in mental institutions. . . You have to know why the psychopaths that rule the World don’t care about the working people or coming future generations, or morality, right and wrong, or anything but money.
What is the description of a Psychopath? Psychopathy is a mental disorder primarily characterized primarily by a lack of empathy. Politician does not have empathy. . Both the financial elite and their servants who maintain this system, appear to exhibit behavior that is consistent with symptoms associated with a medical disorder known as psychopathy. Psychopaths, also called sociopath's, are categorized as those who exhibit superficial charm and intelligence, and are absent of delusions or nervousness.
Psychopaths in Politics
If this 4% of the population exists at all levels of society at any given period, is it possible that some would seek top positions of influence? Of course. Remember, a need for absolute power over others is a core trait of the psychopath. Goal-oriented deceitfulness, superficial charm, an outward friendly appearance, and having no remorse, are other traits which will allow them to achieve their goals. . . And because deceitfulness is a core psychopathic trait, this will probably be done by creating a humanitarian front organization.
The Republic us dead! The government is a criminal enterprise. The chair is against the wall. Any questions?
In a sense the legislation doesn't really mean very much, because we're already way past the point where they simply do whatever they want to anyway. Words on paper have no power over our ruling moral monsters.
That said, Obama may actually veto it. But if he does, it won't be because he disagrees with it in principle; rather, it'll be because he wants to trick the sheeple into voting for him again. IOW, the whole thing may be a psyop to convince the sheeple (who desperately seek to be deceived) that Obama really is a man of "principle".
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