A number of the details surrounding the Obama Administration’s initial account of the Sunday slaying of Osama bin Laden in Pakistan have been revised by officials today. The most noteworthy of these is the claim that bin Laden was killed in an intense firefight, and that officials really hoped to take him alive.
Despite emphasizing this in their initial account, officials are now confirming that there was no firefight in the room in which bin Laden was killed, and that the al-Qaeda founder was entirely unarmed when he was shot in the head by Navy SEALs.
Officials had previously insisted the SEALs were instructed to attempt to take him alive if he “didn’t pose a threat.” Though officials claim he was resisting at the time of his killing, one wonders how much of a threat the aging, sickly terror leader could have posed to a team of soldiers when he was unarmed.
Other changes to the story include the “used his wife as a human shield” claim, which was first revised to a claim that he used some other, random woman as a human shield and eventually dropped in favor of the claim that the random, unarmed woman attacked the troops upon entering the room. It remains to be seen if other major changes will be forthcoming.
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Murder, lying, revised deceit, what do you expect from the American government? If you repeat something 100 times to the American public, especially something they want to believe, it wil become truth. Heaven help us.
I have felt for quite a long time that the American Government has had Hitler's 'playbook' and has been following it page by page for several years now – LIE by LIE; waging aggressive war by war.
The real problem is that we know how the last chapter in the 'book' ends – the destruction of America.
I'm fine with the fact that Osama is dead, but we've cheapened American notions of justice and the rule of law now that it's become apparent that we could have captured him and subjected him to trial but decided it was not worth our time and effort.
Isn't it ironic that there would have been cries of outrage had we waterboarded him, yet it's viewed as acceptable to put a bullet in his head because it would have been admittedly very inconvenient for the US to deal with him as a prisoner and bring him to trial.
If he wasn't already dead, and I believe he was, a trial wouldn't be viewed as "not worth our time and effort," but rather a trial would more than likely make those who are or were in high places squirm. Dead men tell no tales. I would have loved to see Hussein tried in the Hague and have the whole thing aired on national TV, but that was never in the cards. He had to be disposed of quickly, and he was.
So if he was unarmed and there was no fire fight why wasn't he captured? Given he is supposed to be the number one leader of a vast terror network he would probably be a mine of information. The CIA could have happily waterboarded him since this is supposed to be such an effective way of getting information that it has lead to Bin Laden's capture. If the intention was simply to kill him (why?) then why risk sending in an assassination squad? A few missles fired into the house followed up by a Swat team would have been a much safer option, especially if the body was simply going to be dumped at sea. You might also ask how long it takes for DNA samples to be tested and confirmed. You might find it takes considerably longer than 12 hours. And isn't a bit convenient that the photo that is said to exist has part of his face blown away? It might be hard to check a picture like that to see if it is the right person.
So lemme get this straight, bin Ladin was unarmed and mostly just sort of standing there as Navy Seal Team 6 blasted their way into 'compound Usama' and given the heavy-fisted manner of Navy Seal teams in general, well, they BURST their way into Usama land and shoot the bin Ladin no questions asked. Might that be close enough? Ummm, were there ANY Arabic speakers in Navy Seal Team 6? You know, so that somebody with half a lick of legal sense might be telling the bin Ladin's to assume the position…
Well there you go. 9/11/01 is avenged I tells you. Or maybe not so much. Will be most curious to see how MSM spins the demise of Usama bin Ladin with the dawn's early light, again. Yes it will.
This was a straight up 'hit' all the way.
This is modern America … we send our death squads to go assassinate unarmed old men who need dialysis.
Trials, juries, proof, evidence …. none of which are needed in today's Al Capone style of government.
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As we said before…, He was killed military style.., a shot into his left eye and a shot to his heart.., this is a execution done by military.., that is to say.., the mission is kill you not.., capture you or injure you but to kill you is my mission.., they didn’t want him taken a life.., simply they would have forced to put him through a trial process and he would have said few things here and there and exposing few people here and there.., now there is no evidence and there is no one to be trialed for whatever.., so the war must go on.
Wow. How much of a threat could he be? If I remember, he said he would never be taken alive. Since he could hear the firefight in the lower floors, he could have had plenty of time to set up some suicide device.
I suspect if it was your son, father, or brother in that Seal Team, you would not be questioning their decision to make sure Obama did not take them with him on his way to meet his fate.
The members of the SEAL Team are meant to take risks. They know the risks of the job when they sign up. They brag about their bravery and their lack of fear and their willingness to take risks. They brag about their willingness to die for their country.
Now, we hear that SEALs are a bunch of cowards who have to shoot an unarmed old man because they are so frightened for thier lives about the fact that this unarmed old man might find some way to hurt them.
You are missing the point. The safest option for the soldiers would have been air strikes. The strategic objective here was to take him alive if possible. He was unarmed, old and (if accounts of his health are to be believed) not a tough guy these days. Despite all this and despite EXECUTIVE ORDERS with the President himself eyeballing every move, they blew him away on sight. Navy SEALs are the elite. Someone among these elite soldiers acted with an amazing lack of discipline and will be severely talked to for this, OR someone wanted to make sure bin Laden never had a chance to say anything to anyone ever again, for reasons we will never know. Would bin Laden have denied involvement in 9-11? Would he have talked about his family's relationship with the Bushes on the stand? Or would he have talked under interrogation–look where he was living and how, he MUST have been better connected than anyone realized and WHO KNOWS what he has been up to or planning for the last few years? These people play a VERY LONG GAME, don't forget. The fact he's dead and cannot talk may well mean more people die, months or years from now. This is the definition of a Pyrrhic victory.
Just to suggest few things to keep the record straight.
I think OBL was tooth brushing after a nice dinner when te guys of 6 stormed in.He was assumed armed but at the end when EKIA was announced he had a tooth brush in his hand insted AK-47.
I would like to suggest the story maker to stop clebrating for now,drink less and collect all the sotry as it happened otherwise this change of lies is not gonna stop.as bushed said how he saw first Plane hitting the tower..remember something??ha ha?
and hey you USA, do not ever intrude this way into my country.We do not want you disturb our ARMY and spy agency from SLEEP.it’s a stern warning and you bet we the citizens mean business here.
So when Hollywood finally comes out with the movie, will IMDb include this information under the "Continuity" and "Goofs" categories?
Wag the Dog: Check out the movie… Government employees hollywood to create a war to sell as real to the public to serve as a distraction for the President's affairs of the flesh.
Propaganda Ministries of the Axis of Terror will write "history" for all to know.
I knew straight away that the "he used a woman as a human shield" claim was likely a lie when i first heard it.
I am not surprised on how the story has changed and keep on changing, and to see the president and his colleagues watching the assasination of Bin Laden being assasinated reminds me on how one watch the death of a criminal in the gas chamber.
Showing the unarmed Bin laden body will have the same detrimental effect that the pictures of the prisoners of Guantanamo bay has shown to those who will avenge his killing especially being shot unarmed
Who will suffer from all this I tell you what, it is the innocent people who will be sucrifised as a result.
of revenge by alqaida.
Its the act that causes the retaliation. Not telling the truth about the act.
It was the torture and abuse at Abu Ghraib and Gitmo that caused the fears about retaliation attacks. Not the pictures.
Its the cold-blooded murder of an unarmed man execution style that might cause the backlash. Not any pictures.
Telling the truth about such things is the first step towards correcting such abuses. Telling the truth has to come first. Telling the truth does not cause the retaliation. Its acting in such an evil and immoral way in the first place that causes any retaliation.
We shot and killed an unarmed old man execution style. If their's blowback from that, don't try to blame it on the pictures.
Everyone read this. I have gathered a vast trove of sources that call into question this story and indicate OBL probably died on 13 December 2001 of kidney failure. http://www.scribd.com/doc/54586633/Osama-File
the spokesperson's comments today were very curious – after claiming the SEALS were concerned about bin laden possibly resisting his "capture" beforehand, he then openly admits that bin laden was unarmed when they shot him twice in the head during the raid. They make no mention of any resistance by him prior to their firing on him, but curiously point out that his wife ran at them and that they responded by shooting her in the leg intentionally, to avoid a fatality. The implied assumption would have to be that bin laden was not resisting in any perceivable way and that despite this and the fact he was unarmed, they intentionally executed him by aiming for the head. Which makes the spokesman's assertion that the SEALS were on a capture mission seem quite bizzarre and unbelievable. These people need to get their story straight before they put out their official propaganda, because this narrative is just a mess right now.
"Facial recognition" hardly seems like strong identification even if there weren't a number of very different looking men playing bin Laden in videos over the last 10 years. Thats number one: Obama ordered this man killed based on facial recognition. The US once killed a possible bin Laden based on the fact that he was tall so maybe you could call this progress.
Secondly, as suggested by this article, quick disposal of the body of this man precludes establishing what his health was. Did the Navy seals burst in and kill a very sick man? If they'd kept the body, they could have found out if the reports of kidney disease and dialysis were true or not.
Some time ago, Obama issued a directive stating that anyone in the world can be legally executed by the US without resort to due process. All that needs to happen for this to occur is that the victim be accussed ot teror-related activites.
He also stated that Obama was executed afte a firefight in the speech to the nation and that this was ordered (or at least approved) by himself prior to the action.
"Today, at my direction, the United States launched a targeted operation against that compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan. … After a firefight, they killed Osama bin Laden and took custody of his body."
UBL going out like a man, guns blazing sounded too heroic. That doesn't fit the "cowardly terrorist" narrative.
Of course the story had to be changed.
After all, OBL was not a sissy, one who avoided the draft based on his connections, for example.
Bin Ladens wife is saying that they captured him and then shot him dead, I guess the Obama admin weighed up the political ramifications of capturing him alive and decided it would be best to kill him, had they taken him alive it would have reignited the debate about civilian trials a'la KSM, so killing him is a win/win for Obama politically, they don't have to upset a portion of his leftist base by putting bin laden through a military trial at gitmo, and he gets to act tough when the republicans accuse him of being "weak on terror".
ROFL, THAT 'WIFE' WILL DISAPPEAR MYSTERIOUSLY NOW FOREVER.
Is there a germ of truth to any of this? This sounds like this story was crafted by the same team that brought us the "The Saga of Jessica Lynch". His compound looks a great deal like a prison. Just maybe he was being held there until the war machine needed a boost in the polls. So the decision was made to take him out?
The compound looks different in the diagrams and the satellite photos….
The compound will look different tomorrow too.
I am surprised we didn't hear that Pat Tillman was leading the commandos
The US military makes hundreds of these type raids on a routine basis. They could have picked any one of these raids and placed Osama Bin Laden smack in the middle of it. And sure, they flew a body bag to the USS Carl Vinson and dumped it at sea, but who knows who or what (if anything) was in the body bag?
Well,tell you what. If he was the principal villian in this sordid drama that has so far destroyed at least three countries and has brought suffering on millions of people I would have wanted him alive and on trial. However it seems that this man needed to be killed for the "good" of the real criminals in our govt. No wonder the body was disposed of the way it was. No questions about anything please!
BTW here's a photo or two and that;s that.
Look to me that Bin Laden response was that of a physically ill man. They usually don't offer resistance . The Seals had the discipline to wound and not kill the woman why not Osama? he's by far ,more valuable than her.
This story is just as much bull as the 9/11 story.Osama has probably been dead for years they juist needed more fear to get the American public to go along with the wars and futer wars.Any American that belives there government after all there lies and don't demade the wars stop dreserves just the same thing that they turn a blind eye to in the murders of others across the globe.Not all Americans are dumb a big majority no the truth but the others that have the brains to see the fear mongering there government does to get them into the illegal wars 1 after the other are to lazy to investigate.,For the lazys watch Loose Change and that should give you proff your government did 9/11.
LIES and more LIES by Barack Hussein Obama – nothing but LIES from him and his Administration ALL of the time!
the biggest con job in history continues. from the insane fairy tale of arab hijackers to finally getting the bad guy in a shoot out worthy of the ok corral. of course the narrative changes daily becaue it's all a pack of lies.
whether or not OBL is dead or not isn't the point. the trampling of our liberties continues unabated. the wars will continue in perpetuity. hiliary clinton saying one man's murder justifies 10 years of war..tell it to the millions of innocent dead souls you evil freakin harpy. we are still slaves until we say no more and rise up against those who oppress us on a daily basis. these war pigs gotta go.
The 'sensitivity to Islam' schtick was already a flimsy excuse to fail to produce evidence. Now they can play it e.g. as if they were 'embarrassed' that a mission that should have been a capture resulted in assassination. The 'embarrassment' might explain the rapid disposal…but then… a flat lie would explain that as well. If e.g. our Elvis had been dead for years, a staged kill would have been a P.R. card to play for years as well –given the GWoT-sucker's ability to take 'authoritative' statements as 'evidence.'
How do you know they are lying?
— Whenever their lips are moving.
At some point, when a person or organization has been revealed to be total liars time after time after time, then you just stop believing, or even listening to anything they have to say.
If I was Al-Qaida, I would so turn out another OBL video right now.
What in the world are all these people saying. Are they reading themselves or just barking/venting because it's a democrat 'black' President who captured this slaughterer not a conservative white one??? Does it matter whether is was armed, on four feet, THIS MASS MURDERER IS DEAD, THAT'S WHAT MATTERS!!!!!!! Did he give any chance to all his 9/11 victims, his own muslim brothers and sisters that were killed in Afghanistan, Iraq???? When are we going to think JUSTICE for the innocent victims FOR ONCE????? It was too candid for all he did, let's think dignity for the victims and justice to their families. JOB WELL DONE, MR. PRESIDENT – YOU HAD WARNED HIM YOU WERE COMING HIS WAY, HE COULD OF SURRUNDER, HE PERSISTED ON HIS DEVILISH PATH. HE GOT WHAT HE DESERVED!!!!
See my reply to tom, above. Job well done? Are you serious? This was a failure on its own terms, not ours. Strategic objective: capture him alive. Outcome: the twenty-first century, extremist version of Che Guevera is created.
Have another sip of Kool Aid.
If this was a success, that would mean that we already knew everything that he knew. So we must be a genius.
Say, does this mean the FBI can finally charge him?
Another reality after 911created by sole superpower for world(specially innocent American public) to digest. Why so haste for sea burial. A superpower has a right to create reality.
Unarmed. Gunned down. A feast for sea creatures. Assuming we are being told the truth (which we probably are, but the point is no-one will ever be able to verify this). Does anyone else see what's coming? A wave of "sightings". Fresh fodder for conspiracy theorists and martyr-seekers. General revulsion the world over at celebrations over the extrajudicial killing of the man we think was behind 9-11 and who (without a doubt) we could have gained useful information from had we got him alive. Wasn't that the whole point of going in with troops on the ground without telling the Pakistani authorities (by the way isn't this an act of war)? After all, the safest option for the soldiers would have been air strikes.
The strategic objective here was to take him alive if possible. He was unarmed, old and (if accounts of his health are to be believed) not a tough guy these days. Despite all this and despite EXECUTIVE ORDERS with the President himself eyeballing every move, they blew him away on sight. Navy SEALs are the elite. Someone among these elite soldiers acted with an amazing lack of discipline and will be severely talked to for this, OR someone wanted to make sure bin Laden never had a chance to say anything to anyone ever again, for reasons we will never know. Would bin Laden have denied involvement in 9-11? Would he have talked about his family's relationship with the Bushes on the stand? Or would he have talked under interrogation–look where he was living and how, he MUST have been better connected than anyone realized and WHO KNOWS what he has been up to or planning for the last few years? These people play a VERY LONG GAME, don't forget. The fact he's dead and cannot talk may well mean more people die, months or years from now. This is a waste on so many levels, and emblematic of what the US has become and is becoming, as many have pointed out. This is the definition of a Pyrrhic victory.
THEY HAD TO SHOOT HIM, WE'VE ALL SEEN THE CARTOONS, THOSE EVIL ARABS HAVE MIND CONTROL POWERS!!!!! OOOGEY BOOOGEY!! SUBMIT TO ME!!!
By this time tomorrow, they'll have admitted that it wasn't really Bin Laden!
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