US to Send Ukraine $5.5 Billion in New Budgetary, Military Aid

72 thoughts on “US to Send Ukraine $5.5 Billion in New Budgetary, Military Aid”

1. $5.5 billion of more useless money.

   1. Nope that $$$ is grinding the Russian Army to dust. Pretty good value compared to the trillions we have wasted over the years.

      1. You really believe that?

         1. I do indeed.

            1. and inthought?

            2. So when Russia inevitably wins this war decisively are you going to roll up into a little ball?

            3. no

      2. In the meantime, that isn’t the only thing being ground to dust. But you said you live in California so I guess you can keep hoping that your wet dream comes to fruition while Ukrainians die and their country is cratered. No skin off your ass.

         1. Looks like the Russians are conscripting in the “liberated territories” so everybody is going to fight to the last Ukrainian

            1. Exactly. Thanks for proving my point. I guess you think I’m “sticking” for Russia instead of me just coming to the conclusion that Russia CAN’T lose this war.

            2. There is no doubt in my mind that Russia will lose. The sooner the Russians figure it out the lower the human suffering.

            3. So, you think Russia will eventually back down and accept the old status quo? Not happening. The Russians have figured it out already. They believe if they lose their existence is in jeopardy. The fact you, or I, don’t believe that doesn’t change the fact that they do.

            4. The 1999 agreement that they signed? Yes I do. Putin probably won’t be around to see it.

            5. Does that mean we go back before the coup too and reinstate everything the way it was? Or how about the NATO expansion be eliminated just from 1999 and on? We won’t mention the expansion before 1999 when we broke our word about “one inch eastward”. Of course, we wouldn’t be having this conversation because there would have been no invasion.

            6. Nato has expanded, now we have Sweden and Finland on a strategic level even if Russia somehow wins a depopulated pile of rubble formerly known as Ukraine it will have lost

            7. Good response. Didn’t really address anything I said but good response.

            8. 🙄

         2. Best case the Russians leave today. I would like this war to end sooner rather than later.

2. Money for Nazi’s, how Americans can fund an army that wears WWII Nazi symbols on their uniforms is beyond me.

   1. Easy. Anything goes when it comes to killing as many Russians as possible as far as the most murderous regime in Human history currently based in Washington is concerned.
      https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/Rogue_State/oBM8UiDYz1MC?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover&client=safari

3. “The $4.5 billion in budgetary aid is going to the Ukrainian government and is meant to pay for pensions, healthcare costs, and social welfare.”

   Geez, I’m thinking the money doesn’t make it to “social welfare”.

   1. Possibly some will go to “The Big Guy.”

4. $4.5 billion in direct budgetary aid and a $1 billion weapons package.

   According to Ukraine’s requests, this will not be enough for even one full month at the rate of burn they claim/report. This is just one more month of Biden’s War, wading in step by step.

   1. He is doing a pretty good job of not wading in. No advisors after 6 months, and a very careful selection of weapons so as not to be able to strike deep into Russia.

      1. In other words, keep the war going to enrich the MIC. But, let’s call it a damn good job because that was the goal. And NO ADVISORS!? You can’t be fucking serious.

         1. I want the Russians to lose, I am opposed to invasions as a way of doing business, but I also don’t want to get in a shooting war with Russia. So this is the line he threads and so far so good.

            1. The Russians aren’t going to lose without a shooting war. And he’s treading a line that he can’t cross over so how is Russia going to lose? The only “so good” is for the MIC and that’s all it was intended for. We’ll let the Ukrainians die as long as they are willing. But your cool with that.

            2. “The Russians aren’t going to lose without a shooting war.”

               Which they’ve had five months of so far.

            3. I was talking about directly with NATO/US.

            4. “So far so good”, John? What about the tens of thousands on both sides who have perished? Or the millions of refugees?
               Or insane worldwide inflation for the rest of us to endure?
               This could have all been so easily avoided had ByeDone and his “advisors” JUST LISTENED to completely legitimate Russian concerns.

            5. It is a shame the Russians invaded. The wife beater defense doesn’t work with me, this is on them.

            6. The wife beater excuse doesn’t work either. Unless you include that the wife had a secret occupation as a whore and sold herself to the highest bidder. She didn’t even care that she knew the wife beater would take it out on the kids eventually. She still did it. Not saying a woman ever deserves it but if you are going to use the pity card, tell the whole story.

5. A fire hose spewing dollars faster then printing presses can print them. If paper money was really in use!

   Everyday it’s a $Billion here and a $Billion there for Ukraine and finally we are talking real money! Hyperinflation here we come!

6. Of course, now we’ll see billions spent on Universal Healthcare in the USA.

   – – – crickets – – – crickets – – –

7. Never. Ending. Black. Hole.

8. Will they fund Taiwan like the Ukraine too and who will foot the bill for the war in Iran? How about cutting the funding for the Israelis, they can pay for the bombs they drop on Gaza for a change?

9. Zelensky, his Nazi thugs and oligarchs buddies are jumping up and down, another shopping spree. Especially zelensky is desperate for a new pair of high heels…

   1. Maybe a new piano too, Nikki… the keys are a bit sticky on his old one.

10. Enjoy your audit to pay for more of this.

11. Oh, why not. It’s not as though Amerikkkans need that incredibly massive amount of money. We may as well gift Ukraine with all that sh*t to give Russia something else to target.

    Our regime leaders have lost their collective minds. One issue I am particularly sensitive about is the problem of homelessness. I want to see ByeDone, the Blinkin’ Idiot, and all their cronies wander the streets all day, scrounge for food in dumpsters, and bed down for the night in a box or a doorway.
    What that money couldn’t do for the unfortunates for whom this is a reality.

    1. “Our regime leaders have lost their collective minds.”

       In the most unlikely case, they had ones in the first place.

    2. Three billion a year (at least!) to an apartheid brutal regime called Israel and an open spicket to a Nazified murderous regime in Kiev. Sounds about right for the good ol’ USA! Spreading “freedom and democracy” throughout the world!

       1. If I spread some democracy and freedom, can I get a piece of the action, maybe a billion to my state?!

          1. How about a billion to yourself, Donna? 😉

          2. go and wave a sign little dear
             p,s, IMO you have the best icon

       2. Couldn’t have said it better Tom!

    3. Three billion a year (at least!) to an apartheid brutal regime called Israel and an open spicket to a Nazified murderous regime in Kiev. Sounds about right for the good ol’ USA! Spreading “freedom and democracy” throughout the world!

12. They always say……”how are you gonna pay for that” if its health care, education etc etc etc. For war and money laundering there literally is no limit.

    The truth there is no limit to money, its created by a keyboard. Yet they deny spending keyboard entries to provide health care, education etc etc etc.

    They literally do not care if you die.

    1. On the contrary.
       The US funeral industry is booming.

    2. Of course not, Doom. Then they don’t have to pay you Social Security.

13. Another week another check. Any chance there will be a debate in congress? They eliminated the $ 35.00 cap for insulin for private insured diabetics, American citizens don’t count, in 2026 Medicare is permitted to negotiate the price for 10 prescription drugs, something the Democrats fought for for decades, and that “accomplishment ” they are proud of.
    Actually, it only shows what a joke our parliamentarian officials really are, like children they want praise, votes, for a job done, less than a standard routine bill. The new fiscal year begins just 6 weeks from now.

14. NASAMS are an item I hadn’t noticed before. I looked it up. This is anti-aircraft equipment that targets missiles. It could have a huge impact on the war.
    Russia could be forced to escalate further.

    In football, especially when the teams are evenly matched, the game is won by controlling the clock. Biden clearly believes that the US can outlast Russia. These measured escalations are intended to do just that. But Ukraine is quickly running out of soldiers, especially experienced soldiers. After the coming rotation of forces, I assume that Russia will redouble its efforts to end the war quickly.

    1. Russia could be forced to escalate further.

       In what ways do you see them escalating the war?

       Biden clearly believes that the US can outlast Russia.

       Yes – do you have an argument as to why the US would not be able to outlast Russia?

       But Ukraine is quickly running out of soldiers, especially experienced soldiers.

       Ukraine’s losses are on their worst days much lower than the average loss per day of France in WWI – France had a similar population to Ukraine back then and faced an enemy having less extreme war goals than Putin has for Ukraine – so why is it that you think the Ukrainians are so much less willing to fight for their nation?

       After the coming rotation of forces, I assume that Russia will redouble its efforts to end the war quickly.

       I would expect the same – less certain about their ability to end it.

       1. “In what ways do you see them escalating the war?”

          Do you actually think Russia is using their most lethal weapons? You, like others here, thinks Russia can lose this war. It’s either diplomacy or WW3. And if the diplomacy doesn’t seriously address Russia’s original, and still valid concerns, we have WW3.

          1. Do you actually think Russia is using their most lethal weapons?

             No of cause not.

             You, like others here, thinks Russia can lose this war.

             I do not, I think Russia can decide that it is not a war worth winning – sort of like the USSR did Afghanistan.

             It’s either diplomacy or WW3.

             WWIII with Ukraine??

             And if the diplomacy doesn’t seriously address Russia’s original, and still valid concerns, we have WW3.

             Do you imagine that the west will negotiate with Putin about a war they are not taking part in?

             So far there has AFAIK been no negotiations with the US taking part and I sincerely doubt that the US will lift sanctions based on any agreement forced upon Ukraine.

             1. “Do you imagine that the west will negotiate with Putin about a war they are not taking part in?”

                And I’m supposed to have a conversation with you? Read the fucking headline.

             2. I have read the headline delivering (sending) weapons is not taking part in – do you know your history, this is how the US supported UK during WWII, that in no way meant that they would be party to any peace negotiations.

             3. Apples and oranges, to put it mildly. The US wasn’t the instigator that got WW2 started. First you start it and then you fund it to keep it going. Austin and Biden even admitted to such to “weaken” Russia. Now try and deny the US provocations had nothing to do with Russia’s invasion.

             4. Apples and oranges, to put it mildly. The US wasn’t the instigator that got WW2 started.

                Just like in this case so apples and apples – the US even tried to convince Putin not to start it and Putin even promised that he was not about to invade.

                First you start it and then you fund it to keep it going.

                I could have sworn that the US did not command the Russian armed forces are you claiming that they do???

                Austin and Biden even admitted to such to “weaken” Russia.

                Where did they admit that they started the war to weaken Russia?

                Now try and deny the US provocations had nothing to do with Russia’s invasion.

                I’m not trying to deny that the US provocations had nothing to do with Putin invading, but notice that you have just admitted that the Russians started the war. What I am claiming is that nothing the US did could possibly justify Putin invading, if you have an other view you are free to put forward the reasons you believe would justify a Russian invasion.

             5. Really? So, no NATO expansion after promising “not one inch eastward? No coup? No war games on Russia borders? Those things don’t happen and Russia still invades?

                I was referring to Biden and Austin admitted the goal was to weaken Russia. I was talking about the billions we are spending to prolong the war. I already covered how we instigated it.

                I said the US instigated Russia to invade. No instigation, no invasion. I left out NATO but they are just an extension of our belligerence. You back a wild animal in a corner, and it will fight to the death. I can only repeat myself so many times as why I think Russia was provoked into invading.

             6. Really? So, no NATO expansion after promising “not one inch eastward? No coup? No war games on Russia borders? Those things don’t happen and Russia still invades?

                First of all I wrote: “I’m not trying to deny that…” – but on this one, please show me the treaty where the US agreed to allow no new east members in NATO.

                Second point: If your argument is that the invasion is somehow justified by
                – NATO allowed new members in the east or that (latest new member North Macedonia 2020)
                – Yanukovych being ousted by a popular uprising (2014)
                – war games near the Russian border (2021 but has been going on frequently since 2004)
                Then the timing seems very strange – it is not as if Ukraine was about to join NATO.

                I was referring to Biden and Austin admitted the goal was to weaken Russia. I was talking about the billions we are spending to prolong the war. I already covered how we instigated it.

                OK, but then it has no bearing on who started it – the US could voice their goal to weaken Russia once they had violated 70+ years European tradition of not starting wars to take territory, simply as that is the only way to avoid a lot of new wars, without in any way this being an indication of them starting the war.

                I said the US instigated Russia to invade. No instigation, no invasion.

                Can you say what treaty the US has violated that justifies Putin’s action, or why it is that you think that this war had to happen in February 2022 as a response to NATO war games that have been going on since 2004 – (Russia has had such war games too that has never been justification for invasion before).

                Or how the Ukrainians possibly encouraged by the utterings of outsiders ousting Yanukovych in 2014 can justify the Russians attacking an entire different government where the rightwing extremists were no longer represented?

                I left out NATO but they are just an extension of our belligerence. You back a wild animal in a corner, and it will fight to the death. I can only repeat myself so many times as why I think Russia was provoked into invading.

                I understand that this is what you and many others may think, however what I find curious is that you think that this explanation actually fits observed behavior.

                The NATO expansion: Putin has just said that Finland and Sweden joining is not a problem.
                War games near Russia’s borders – there were nothing special in 2021, 2020, 2019 so why just invade in 2022?
                Yanukovych being ousted – why wait 8 years?

             7. So, you don’t really deny anything I said. It’s just that since it has been going on for 30 years, why on earth should Russia have a problem NOW. It is hard to argue against that “logic”. I could equate it to a dog being kicked too many times but that would probably escape you too. So, you win. Russia bad.

             8. So, you don’t really deny anything I said. It’s just that since it has been going on for 30 years, why on earth should Russia have a problem NOW.

                I deny that there was ever an agreement that NATO would not accept new nations from the former Warsaw pact.

                I also deny that there was a coup in Kyiv – or more specifically that the overthrow of Yanukovych was an outside job without support form a majority of the Ukrainian electorate.

                But I do not deny that there has been war games in the Baltic countries – and that there likely will be ones in Finland.

                But that is perhaps not very relevant seeing as none of these things even if they were not so could possibly justify Putin’s invasion of Ukraine in 2022 – so why get bogged down debating those issues.

                It is hard to argue against that “logic”. I could equate it to a dog being kicked too many times but that would probably escape you too.

                I would understand that issue, however if that was the true explanation then I would have expected the reaction to follow one of those ‘provocations’ – that is not how it unfolded.

                Instead what we observed was that the build up to what became the invasion coincided with the US debacle in Afghanistan – that kind of paints an other picture.

                I’m not prepared to draw any conclusions, but the fact that this came at a time when it was to say the least not opportune for neither the US nor Europe makes it difficult to support the idea that this was a war that the West/US wanted.

                So, you win. Russia bad.

                Predominantly because the idea of Russia conducting a war to gain territory and thereby control over even more of the (especially energy) resources of the world sets a very bad example and if not opposed almost guarantees that other nations will do the same.

                So far more wars and far more resources devoted to defense to avoid neighbors invading – and yes that is bad – and by extension Russia is bad, there simply had to be other ways to address the serious concerns the Russians have regarding their security.

             9. You aren’t worth it.

       2. I don’t have any special insights into Russian strategy. But their targets and goals changed when HIMARS were introduced. I assume it could happen again.

          The US cannot outlast Russia if Russia wins. Biden’s strategy is to keep the war going for as long as possible.

          Ukraine is running out of soldiers now. This is a fact, not a theory. I won’t speculate on willingness to fight.

          1. Ukraine isn’t running out of missiles and US soldiers to operate them.

             https://russian.rt.com/ussr/article/1035130-minoborony-rossiya-vsu-dannye-nayomniki

             In the Uman region: the Russian Ministry of Defense announced the destruction of an ammunition depot for HIMARS and M777

          2. But their targets and goals changed when HIMARS were introduced. I assume it could happen again.

             Are you suggesting that the Russians would waste even more ammunition on non military targets, or that they were for some reason not attacking military targets?

             The US cannot outlast Russia if Russia wins. Biden’s strategy is to keep the war going for as long as possible.

             The US could keep equipping resistance fighters like they did in Afghanistan, but I think that is somewhat dubious, however the US can keep the sanctions on indefinitely which is what I think will happen if Russia wins.

             On that note how do you see Russia winning – as far as I can judge they have committed far too few troops to conquer hold and pacify all of Ukraine, so just how do you see them winning.

             Ukraine is running out of soldiers now. This is a fact, not a theory. I won’t speculate on willingness to fight.

             The Ukraine is a country of about the population size of France in WWI, they have lost per day, but a fraction of what the French lost every day for 4 years, so while they may be running out of soldiers from the original cadre, why do you think that they are not training new ones?

    2. And, Duane, Amerikkkans are running out of patience as well ( I don’t know a soul who’s happy about the worst inflation in decades) not to mention running out of interest. Amerikkkans have short attention spans; Ukraine barely merits a mention on the MSM’s nightly news at this point.

15. Divert this money to build the southern US border wall! Who gives biden the authority to spend money without authorization from Congress?

16. Wait till the people of the Ukraine get the bill lol. the I.M.F /W.B are going to take everything you own and more , they will own you .

17. https://russian.rt.com/ussr/news/1034271-nayomnik-vsu-novobrancy

    Australian mercenary says APU is sending untrained recruits to the front lines.

    https://russian.rt.com/ussr/news/1035151-minoborony-rossii-naemnik-ukraina-ssha
    Russian Defense Ministry: 21 US mercenaries killed in Ukraine over past four weeks

18. The Nazi’s are currently shelling a nuclear facility using the weapons we supplied and using targeting information we supply. This is criminal insanity beyond belief. This is nuclear terrorism. They also found Bio Weapons in Ukraine, Bio terrorism.

    The only viable way forward is to arrest all our western leaders and present them to the Hague. There is no other future for us average people.

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