In what has been the closest thing to an administration comment on the Israeli attack on a Gaza-bound aid ship, Vice President Joe Biden today praised Israel for raiding the ship, saying they “had a right to know” what might be on board.
Biden avoided any specific comments with respect to the killings of up to 19 civilian aid workers by the Israeli military, something several members of Congress have championed in previous comments, but insisted that Hamas was secretly to blame for everything that happened.
Israel’s massacre on the ship has sparked international outcry, with the United States and Germany the only two major nations that have declined to criticize the attack so far. Israel has insisted that the aid workers were in league with al-Qaeda and that the killings were “self-defense,” though they did not charge any of the hundreds of captives with any crimes, terror-related or otherwise.
AIPAC, the most public of the pro-Israel lobbies in the US, has cheered Biden’s comments, saying they were “strong statements of support for Israel.”
International waters.
Turkish ship.
Turkey member of NATO.
Israel… Only ally of U.S.A in region.
Israel….Only ally of U.S.A to bring Iran to its senses.
Israel….Only ally of U.S.A to prevent the Muslims banding together under Islamic Turkey.
Israel…. Only "allly" to shoot and kill, knowingly, American service men and get away with it.
Israel…. Only "ally" in the area to steal nuclear materials, build bombs, and shove middle finger in face of USA and call it, "love".
Israel…. One "ally" amongst many that takes money stolen from American citizens but in its case uses stolen money to then buy bombs and bullets from USA to kill people by the thousands. Some friend!
I can't see Greeks and Turks "banding" together in much of… anything, yet on these ships they could.
Proof, no doubt, that Greeks are going to backstab the "crusaders" once the muslims rally under the Turkish banner. Must be the payback for the 1204 fall of Constantinople to the "crusaders". It then started the same, with the venetian fleet carrying the "crusaders" raiding the coast of bordering "terrorists" (read cities Venice competed with) and ended in the "liberation" of Constantinople from… itself. With a big bonus – loot and the establishment of a puppet state for a few decades. Not so difficult to identify the "Francs" and the "Venetians" of nowadays.
Sorry had to LMAO at the Muslims banding together under Islamic Turkey remark. I can just see all the citizens of former Ottoman occupied countries lining up in 2010 to rejoin the old empire.
Did you make that shit up yourself, or is there a repository out there from which you can just cut and paste?
Just say it outright – Only ally of the US in crime
Joltin Joe knows he's in the line of succession. Obama hasn't, yet, taken the ultimate fall for the team, which would bring martyrdom for himself and effectively silence all dissent, which would be labeled "divisive", as the ruling class would crank the propaganda organs, the MSM, into overdrive so as to keep the proles off balance and guilty for not showing sufficient respect and fealty. Just about the time fresh wars are to be launched. History doesn't repeat but it does rhyme.
"Obama hasn't, yet, taken the ultimate fall for the team…"
Penetrating.
"History doesn't repeat but it does rhyme."
Also penetrating.
of course, Biden is going to defend this, because Israel's justification is precisely the same justification for the "war on terror", that the US has the right ot stop anyone, anywhere, anyplace that it considers a potential threat, and, if they don't like it and resist, well, that's on them, and they deserve what they get
the overt fascism of this policy is becoming more and more obvious, as is the fact the US is willing to sacrifice any pre-existing international institution, including NATO, that gets in the way
because, there's always another 'coalition of the willing' to be cobbled together whenever necessary
dont need israel as an ally anymore.
Never did.
Obama becommin HOE-bamma , and Joe Biden….. Princeless
Joe has been in Israel's pocket for 40 years. Why would he change now? They could do any crime and he would think it was OK. If I were Obama I would have my life insurance paid up. What ever happened to Rahm Emmanuel? Is he ever coming home from the Fatherland?
No need for the ballerina Emanuel to prance home from Israel. With modern technology, he can simply text Biden and O-Bomb-a the script of what they must say to the media.
The fact remains, for whatever reason, that the Israeli right wing considers it imperative to get rid of Emanuel, and they have been trying to do so even before Obama took office.
That was in fact what the Fitzgerald PR attack on Blagoyevich was all about.
Blagoyevich was incidental–Emanuel was the the target, as he well knows.
It also may be safely concluded that Emanuel has no interest whatever in being Israeli.
That may be the key to the whole mystery right there.
This just proves that Joe Biden is not capable of acting as the Vice-President of the USA. No mention of killing of peaceful activists. I thought that Joe was Catholic and understood some of the teaching that Jesus gave. I was wrong.
The insanity is impossible to even begin to measure anymore. Just the other day we got a sense for the sheer recklessness and immorality of Israel's deployment of power, via the South Africa proliferation and arms trade revelations. And yet once again, Israel's portrayal of itself as victim, in the most bizarre circumstances, are supported to the hilt by our 'elites'. One just cannot measure this kind of insanity.
Netanyahu and Hagee make interesting bedfellows physiologically.
In Deleuzian terms it appears to be an altogether unique attempt at double enculage.
The erudite, however,will recall something vaguely similar when Luther was learning Hebrew.
On the other hand, whatever one says about him, Luther was a great scholar,as were his teachers.
Netanyahu and Hagee are closer to Laurel and Hardy at best.
Shame on Israel!
"Israel….Only ally of U.S.A to prevent the Muslims banding together under Islamic Turkey. "
Really? By gratuitously killing Turks who are trying to play a constructive, humanitarian role, Israel could find no better way of encouraging Muslims to band together with Islamic Turkey. And Christians, and Buddhists, and atheists and … you get the point.
Recall–Hussein's Iraq was targeted exactly because it was the most secular regime in the Near East, including Israel.
Biden's face clearly resembles that of a typical American serial killer. Just look at his face. Not that much better than his psychopathic predecessor.
Kinda looks like a grey-haired version of Ted Bundy. Pictured just before he chokes the life out of some poor girl.
Wow. I am shocked. I shouldn't be, but I am. Our leaders are saying that it was ok to commit an act of piracy, just because it was Israel, our friend. Israel has gone too far this time. Boarding ships flying a NATO member national flag in international waters and murdering people simply cannot be ignored. These idiots who are trying to blame the victim suffer from a lack of credibility. The world should have helped Gaza before this. It is a disgrace that the Jews created an open air concentration camp for an enemy they dehumanize. Shame on them. And shame on us for passively and financially supporting their evil acts.
Religion sucks…
Of course HAMAS is to blame. I suppose they supplied the Helicopters and troops to attack the ships bringing them aid.
Biden is an idiot and he now joins the gutless Obama and the mad wowan,Hillary Clinton, in supporting the murder of civilians in international waters.
Biden has already forgotten the blatant slap in the face he was given when he last visited his älly" Isreal.
These people have dragged the once proud citizens of the USA into the mire of brutal criminality.
They supply guns and equipment to Isreal using American Taxpayers dollars which are then used on American Citizens who stand up for Justice and Truth . Lets see what they do to the MV Rachel Corrie – named after the young woman who was murdered by the Isreali's in Gaza – which is the next ship that is scheduled to sail with aid for GAZA.
Biden is making up for his not thanking the Israeli's for the blatant slap in the face and insulting him on his visit.
What dirt does the Mossad have on all these American officials who hop, skip and jump to any tune Israel choses to play?
The only question they ever ask is, "How High."
There doesn't even have to be any "dirt". There is always an implicit threat on their very lives if they stray from the script.
Fuck YOU Biden
Time for regime change.
Goodbye Biden
Goodbye Bibi
That's definitely one of the possible scenarios in the cards.
Loyal Americans should take note. An incident like this makes it quite clear the strength of the traitors in America. It seems like we're surrounded by them.
This is sad that vice-president has hailed the killings of civilian. I have no world to comment on this as i know we the Muslims are at present is running US crusade and hatred against Muslims. I don,t what the US will achieve and sure there will be create more hatred against US. We are powerless 2 billion Muslims. Every day a new story is printed in US after caroons now bus posters.If this crime against humanity had been done by Muslim country may be US has bombed with nuclear weapons lrak in 1991. America is misjuging the Muslims around the world.
God bless US administration and save my coutry from US i.e. Pakistan.
Israel attacked an American ship, The U.S. S. Liberty, killing thirty four, some of them in life boats and LBJ, The Navy, and the Congress still participate in a cover up, so there is nothing surprising about Joe Biden's defense of Israel. Here is a man who is totally without pride, not only looking the other way when Israel massaacres innocents, but permitting Israel to insult him personally, in order to secure the Senate seat from Delaware for his son Beau, thinking the seat is the personal property of The Biden family. These politicians are without pride, and without shame.
I want to thank these brand new posters -'Renos' for example – for logging onto antiwar this week in order to express their support for Israel attacking an aid ship in international waters and slaughtering the aid workers aboard. Now that you Zionists have done your part in promoting lies for the master race, you can go back to the Jerusalem Post or wherever you were before this shameful incident started. Bye.
God Bless America.
Biden has his hand down the front of Netanyahu's pants…
And bends over too.
I guess to be an american politician you really do have to park your brain at the door to the club.
It's systemic actually, and applies to the US across the board, not just to American politicians.
Deleuze and Guattari rightly implicate Capitalism and the necessity of antiproduction and an accompanying flow of real stupidity.
This is perhaps not the whole story, and there are other ways to grasp the pattern, but they come to much the same thing qua abstract pattern at least.
Biden, if you are so much afraid of israel and do not have courage to be honourable as the founding fathers of US, DO NOT APPROVE WAR CRIMES , AS YOU BECOME WAR CRIMINAL TOO
yes: being assaulted by attack boats, armed helicopters, and elite commandoes in the middle of the night on the high seas must never be construed as "terrorism"–it was a "welcome to Israel!" party! Aloha!…er… Shalom!
Of the Israeli apologists' specious, ad nauseum plea of the "right to self-defense"–i.e., more properly termed "disproportionate, aggressive, terrorist offense," M. J. Rosenberg of Media Matters notes:
"It also failed to take into account the right of self-defense of those aboard a vessel that came under attack in international waters. 'This is like a carjacker complaining to the police that the driver bashed him with a crowbar that was under the seat'"[Rosenberg].
http://original.antiwar.com/lobe/2010/06/02/israe…
Maybe this "exercise" was part of an exchange program with Somalian coast pirates. Could benefit both sides to improve their technique.
Already known Fotela victims – 8 turkish and one american citizen >>Israel is evil country
Israel (and her apologists): "We are shocked! SHOCKED! and saddened that you would doubt our utterly benign, humanitarian intentions for the Palestinian peoples–their children and their families! That's it: shocked and saddened!"
Yes–we noticed your "benign, humanitarian intentions" at work during, for example, Cast Lead, the Sabra Shatila Massacre, the Deir Yassin Massacre, the Mavi Marmara Massacre, the USS Liberty Massacre, the murder of Folke Bernadotte by Lehi (the "Stern gang"), etc.
The shooting spree of the british taxi driver who killed 12 people was characterized as massacre in the news. The killing of the flotilla participants was not. I suppose this happens because the taxi driver "efficiency" was so much higher than the Israeli commandos', it would have spoiled their renown.
the provenance of terrorism…
After the atrocious horrors of Auschwitz, Dachau, Bergen-Belsen–not to mention two-thousand years of brutality–murders, pogroms, etc.–by so-called "Christians" (for being "Christ-killers") Zionists in particular, and Jewish Zionist apologists in general are, seemingly, in a perpetual siege-state mindset, i.e., "the goyim want to destroy us!"
Except now the "genocidal goyim" includes, potentially, Gazan children–and Muslims in general–flotilla humanitarians, critics like Chomsky, Finkelstein, Mearsheimer and Walt, etc.
This is known as "paranoia." Add to this debilitated psychology–via abuse the Jewish people never merited (i.e., non-Jews were the aggressors)–the interminable personal Jewish survivor guilt and existential doubts about being "Chosen," and the fragmenting of schizophrenia comes to the fore.
Consider: paranoid schizophrenics with two to three hundred nuclear weapons–with Dimona in full swing.
How to make amends and effect a global community? God help us all, God forgive us all!
We are all Palestinians now!
Long live Palestine!
And if the Turk don't know Ovid, surely the Russians do, and the Greeks and Serbians too:
et quanto mallet, quam scriberet, illa nataret,
meque per adsuetas sedula ferret aquas!
How about this for a loose translation for those with no Latin–including presumably Mr.Biden:
a Turkish ship is pirated–that's the news,
and Saaksashvili is pissing on his shoes.
Perun, who are these Palestinians you speak of? What is this Palestine?
"The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct Palestinian people to oppose Zionism.
"For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan."
–Zahir Muhsein leader of terrorist PLO.
Schmuck:
Does that still give Israel the right to do what it does? Is this guy a creation of Israel, much like Hamas?
Please ignore the hasbarah-bots. This is the stale old Palestinians-don't-really-exist-semantically-speaking bit. It's one of a handful of standard propaganda lines that these contemptible shills dutifully cut and paste, and it's beneath the dignity of a refutation.
Now, if you ask these same creatures how their merry little word games justify FORCED BOARDING and MURDER in INTERNATIONAL WATERS, they'll be at a loss for words. Well, ORIGINAL and RATIONAL words anyhow. They'll probably simply parrot some variant of the line that these poor defenseless, HEAVILY ARMED commandos were threatened by *gasp* TERRORISTS cleverly disguised (by the evil masterminds at Hamas no doubt) as UNARMED sailors and aid workers defending themselves against a VIOLENT ACT OF PIRACY. Well, that and we're probably all antisemites . . .
Propaganda? That is a quote from one of the executive board members of the PLO… and one only has to look at the recent incident to see how "Palestine" is used to antagonize Israel–this flotilla wasn't about humanitarian aid, it was about deligitimziing Israel.
The West Bank belonged to Jordan and Gaza to Egypt–they are both now political tools to attack Israel from within.
Palestinians are the PEOPLE living under Israeli occupation like French or Russians used to live under Mr.Adolf's occupation.
Good news is that desire to be FREE is universal and will defeat occupier no matter how well armed hi/she is.
Shalom
The truth is this action was a huge Israeli blunder. The "image" damage will probably trigger pivotal changes. So they are doing what they can (which is not much) to minimize the impact. They were caught in a lose-lose situation of their own doing. Some irony.
The way the politicians in the United States government are rushing to defend the totally undefendable criminal actions ( murder, piracy, kidnapping, and aggravated assault) of the IDF proves not only the criminal nature of the Israeli state but also the criminal nature of the American state. I hope the good people on the noninterventionist left are beginning to realize that the problem with the state is not who controls its levers of power or what form it takes (democracy, monarchy, or dictatorship) but its very existence. I do not think it is a stretch to say that government has been the focus of all evil throughout history. The only way any of us will be safe is if the state is totally eliminated, or rendered so weak and poor as to be harmless.
Biden has no moral or legal authority to support him. His cowardice on Israel is legendary.
International terrorist organizations were defeated and their pseudo humanitarians were sent home in shame after challenging Israeli law. Israel has won a great victory after defending their nation against a conspiracy by Hamas and their supporters. Only the full inspection of incoming goods will keep Gaza free of WMD.
International terrorist organizations were defeated and their pseudo humanitarians were sent home in shame after challenging Israeli law. Israel has won a great victory after defending their nation against a conspiracy by Hamas and their supporters. Only the full inspection of incoming goods will keep Gaza free of WMD.
All the US senators who have become wealthy for last 30-50 years they are either been involved in oil companies fraudulent acts regarding their involvement in Middle East or at home price fixing, or the US war machinery and its product in killing other nations – people or been involved in pharmaceutical price fixing or they have been a very good friend of Israel and those who run the international monitory funds (IMF).., perhaps one needs to see the connection with 2.5 billion missing dollars from Federal reserve which Bernaki cannot explain where that money is or to whom he is been given it too…. Joe Biden…uhh is no different.. But all that indicates that the time of false democrats are over and people need to do something about their feature by voting for the peoples peoples and not oil companies or wall street people.
I never had much respect for this guy, Biden.
Wasn’t he the guy who claimed publicly to be top of his class? And when some journalists looked into the issue they found that he actually was in the last quarter. That wouldn’t have been so bad, if he would have claimes exactly the opposite, without any need to do so!
W
I think its disgusting that most of our goverment are israeli firsters
I suppose Joe Biden must savor the resounding slap Netanyahu delivered him and his boss! Biden has done his master’s bidding; it is time for Americans to speak for themselves – and not allow these kowtowing slaves they elected make them accomplices in the heinous crimes of the Israeli regime.
Just imagine how we look the rest of world. And Americans continue to be brain dead about the extent of AIPAC's influence on our government.
Sorry, I don't buy the "line" that appears to be being pushed here. The whole story is told in full in the National Post among other places, and it's perfectly clear that the Israeli action was in respond to unexpected violence initiated, massively, by the so-called humanitarians (note that not a soul was hurt on the other five ships, which offered no such resistance. Nobody on this site seems interested in the massive aid that the Israelis do permit, daily, for transportation to Gaze, and they are also permitting the civilian contents of these ships, I understand.
Yep, this seems to be a very biased news source. Its perfectly clear that Israel had a full right to enforce its blockade, and that the violence was caused by the hooligans on board the ships who started lynching Israeli soldiers. There is even video evidence to proove it.
Its sad that people with fixed minds will rush to believe anything there told if it fits thier beliefs.
Its also sad that Israel was immediately condemed by the entire world only hours after the event, before people even had time to think, or for real details to surface.
The American citizen of Turkish descent, shot 4 times in the head and once in the chest, clearly shows the degree of restraint. I bet the 4 first shots were only meant to subdue the "terrorist".
The word shame isn't included in some people vocabulary. For good reason… they never feel shame for their actions.
Most of the writers and editors of the Post are J*****.
UNSC Resolution 1860 provides the FreeGaza movement and its flotillas with a LEGAL basis for action. In his statement, Biden supports non-compliance with 1860 and all other UNSC Resolutions regarding the Zionist Regime.
1860's key points:
"2. Calls for the unimpeded provision and distribution throughout Gaza of
humanitarian assistance, including of food, fuel and medical treatment;
3. Welcomes the initiatives aimed at creating and opening humanitarian
corridors and other mechanisms for the sustained delivery of humanitarian aid;
4. Calls on Member States to support international efforts to alleviate the
humanitarian and economic situation in Gaza,"
Note #4–the USA is MANDATED by the resolution to SUPPORT the FreeGaza flotillas, not oppose them. Biden is advocating breaking the law–that's a High Crime in my book.
Biden is a fucking idiot and our congress is a pack of traitors, they should be tried and shot as such
"Sorry, I don't buy the 'line' that appears to be being pushed here…."
For one reason or another that is a line that, one guesses, closely approximates one of the scripts being used in an attempt to moderate online criticism of piracy and murder on the high seas.
Another guess is that the user who put it in quotations is a textualist who did not really understand the directions, which were probably, say, to use phrases like "I don't buy the line being pushed here."
Qualifying with "appears" and putting the colloquial usage in quotations attracts attention to the phrase, which is exactly what is not aimed at.
One thinks of the student in one class who dutifully wrote down the lecturer's, "In this class you will be asked to think for yourself."
Honest Injun.
That was quite a psychological analasys…. Im impressed.
It also completely ignored the basis of what the poster was trying to say, and attempted to delegitamise that basis by launching an attack on the posters choice of how to use quotations.
Forgive me if im wrong
You are.
feed a line
give a line
hook, line, and sinker
party line
spin a line
swallow hook, line, and sinker
Ah, SHPIEL (Ger.Spiel)!
As in, "I don't buy that shpiel".
Still dating age then?
Then, it almost goes without saying, there is the salesmanship of "pushing a line of goods", as in, say, Amway's Artistry line of cosmetics for hot rural Born Again rubes.
"Look perfectly polished in minutes."
That's US Protestant Woman-As-Trophy cosmetic copy all right.
Polished? Polished? Must go over real big in every Warsaw Motel in Michigan.
Ergo: the one who is "not buying the line being pushed" is obviously pushing a different line.
"felix, i, littera!"
Add Canada to the list of nations that hasn't said anything of substance. Our Conservative PM and much of his government are very pro-Israel. He called the bombing of Gaza last time a measured response. He couldn't even muster a bad word when Israel killed Canadian UN members during their war with Lebanon before that.
Biden: "I am a Zionist."
Our government is OWNED.
Who care what Biden thinks. A self declared Zionist, Biden is like talking to someone in the Israel government. Jewish lobby owns Biden lock, stock and barrel.
Biden is a cheap political prostitute,the American People are sick and tired of this adminstration for being ,a whore,and a pimp for Israel.
Who asked Biden in the first place..?……
Israel has proven once again that it can commit any crime under the sun and expect full support from an enslaved American political leadership. Now where did the Somali pirates go wrong; the European Zionist in occupation of Palestine today are commiting worse atrocities against a defenseless people than what their Nazi tormentors allegedly did to them – and this with the full material and political support of the US! Must make American proud of their leadership: it sure puts the Nazi’s to shame.
when the people asks for their own HUMAN RIGHTS they are called as TERRORISTS.
THIS IS WAS HAPPENING IN GAZA?
Israel only had the right if it was in their territorial waters or if they had declaired war. As we know neither of these conditions were met! The reason they attacked AT NIGHT IN INTERNATIONAL WATERS is because if they had waited for the ships to get in terriortial waters it would 1. been in daylight and 2. there would have been many witnesses and cameras from all overt the world. All you people who continue to say look at the videos , something is wrong wth you! The Israelis blocked all radio transmissions during the raid and comfiscated all radios, cameras, telephones, and some clothing! The only footage you have seen is the footage Israel wants you to see and nothing more!!!
That's not really good, why they don't stop doing that things? That's bad!
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