President Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu met at the White House on Monday and reaffirmed their desire for the ethnic cleansing of Gaza, both claiming that there are other countries willing to take in the Palestinian population.
Trump also said it would be a “good thing” for the US to take over and control Gaza. “Well, you know how I feel about the Gaza Strip. I think it’s an incredible piece of important real estate,” he told reporters at the Oval Office. “I think it’s something we would be involved in, you know, having a peace force like the United States there, controlling and owning the Gaza Strip, would be a good thing.”
The president said that if the Palestinians are “moved around to different countries,” it would create a “freedom zone” in Gaza. “You call it the freedom zone, a free zone, a zone where people aren’t going to be killed every day,” he said.
Netanyahu framed the idea of expelling Palestinians from Gaza as voluntary. “We’re committed to getting all the hostages out, but also eliminating the evil tyranny of Hamas in Gaza and enabling the people of Gaza to freely make a choice to go wherever they want,” he said.
Netanyahu said that he and President Trump discussed countries that are willing to take in Palestinians from Gaza, but he didn’t mention any by name. “I think this is the right thing to do. It’s going to take years to rebuild Gaza; in the meantime, people can have an option. The president has a vision. Countries are responding to that vision, and we’re working on it,” he said.
Netanyahu’s visit to the US came amid Israel’s constant attacks on the Gaza Strip, which have killed more than 1,300 Palestinians since the resumption of the genocidal war on March 18. Since March 2, Israel has imposed a total blockade on Gaza, cutting off the entry of humanitarian aid and all other goods.
The Israeli military has also expanded its ground assault and is seizing more land in Gaza as part of Netanyahu’s plans for a full Israeli military occupation. The IDF now controls more than 50% of Gaza’s territory.
President Trump has fully supported the Israeli escalations in Gaza and claimed on Monday that Netanyahu was working to free the Israeli hostages despite his refusal to fully implement the ceasefire deal signed in January that would have achieved that goal. Israel has also rejected Hamas’s offer to release all the Israeli captives at once in exchange for a permanent truce.
And they call themselves civilized.
There is no ethnic cleansing, as Palestinian Arabs have increased their number over nine time since 1948 both inside and outside of Israel proper.
Trump's plan is pure ethnic cleansing. And as readers of this blog know, I am supporter of Israel. But removing the Palestinians out of Gaza is just wrong.
If you have three children, it is OK if someone kills one of them as that third child was excess?
So there was no holocaust because as soon as the population recovered, the crime can be officially expunged?
Zionists recently murdered 50000 in Gaza + 15000 missing + the number of people they have recently murdered in the West Bank.
And that is only recently.
Your reply: "No they didn´t, because the population grew".
Murderer: "I didn't kill anyone, because the population grew."
Your zionist hasbara twisting and turning fails.
True, Yet Palestinian are obviously defeating Israeli ghouls by making love.
Oct 7 precipitated this bad situation.
If October 7th "precipitated" the situation, then 1948 Israel was the big bang that brought this bad situation to begin with in the first place. Dismantle Israel and you will solve the problem.
How about going further back in time?
Have you read the report of the Shaw Commission of 1930? A document of the utmost importance, i. m. o.
I agree with that.
The Palestinian Arab population has been steadily growing both inside and outside of Israel proper since 1948.
Two million Palestinian Arabs live in Israel proper as citizens on land that you hypocritical activists say is ethnically cleansed.
The Palestinians have to grow their population not to get wiped out by the butchers. The slaughter has been going on since 1948. Had they not reproduced they would have been all wiped out by now. Something Israel and the West colonial powers hoped for.
The Arab population controls 99% of the Middle East and there are 22 Arab Countries, all member of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation.—- Hardly a wipeout.
Can you name the Countries that support Hamas's methods? And then tell me if they are bastions of human rights?
The majority of the world respects the Palestinian resistance, but Euro_america and their Zionist buddies use coercion and intimidation to shut down freedom of expression. Its so obvious. Keep it up because it will backfire. Then don't cry about the repercussions.
(Not a country, but) the US regime.
No. The US regime weaponizes human rights.
The 2019 Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics (PCBS) had reported ahead of the 71st anniversary of the 1948 war that the number of Palestinians has increased by nine times since 1948. – That is not a genocide!
At the end of the Six-Day War in 1967, when Israel took over the territories occupied by Jordan and Egypt, the average Palestinian in the West Bank and Gaza expected to live just 49 years, according to a United Nations report. In 1975, Palestinian life expectancy rose to 56; by 1984, it climbed to 66. That this is “a rise of almost seventeen years in longevity within seventeen years of Israeli rule.” Since 1984, Palestinians have lived an average of 75 years. That’s not only higher than the global average, but longer than the life expectancy in many Arab and South American countries—and even in some European countries. Israeli Arabs, meanwhile, have the highest life expectancy in the Arab world.(look it up in any statistical website of your choice) —-That also does not fit the description of a genocide!
Had Arabs accepted the 1947 UN Partition Resolution, they would be celebrating 76 years of independent statehood today with pre-1967 lines. Collective Arab Countries chose war instead and they lost. They chose war several more times and they lost. If you risk everything to gain it all, when you lose, you don't get go back to the status quo each time.
The reply I posted the last time you made this specious accusation:
"We are the nazis". 🙁
Maju how could you upvote the peepsqueek below you?
I don't remember: I actually blocked him afterwards, maybe he said something that sounded good to me on first read, then I found another comment that was horrendously genocidal and blocked right away. Unsure: I pay more attention to content than to names, in fact I'm infamous for often forgetting names (but not faces) in real life.
I thought as much. 🙂
He posted the ICJ arrest warrants against Hamas and quoted Geneva conventions and Rome statute against Palestinians while ignoring everything Israel did, especially using Palestinians as human shields. And he uses it to justify Israel's genocidal war. Finally, he says there's no ethnic cleansing of Palestinians because they grew nine fold in population since in 1948.
Israel Committing 'Textbook Case of Genocide,' Holocaust Historian Says
The assault on Gaza is "a textbook case of genocide unfolding in front of our eyes," Raz Segal, associate professor of Holocaust and genocide studies at Stockton University, wrote in a piece for Jewish Currents, a progressive Jewish magazine, published on October 13.
In the article and in an interview with Democracy Now!, Segal pointed out that genocide is defined in the December 1948 United Nations Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide as five acts committed with "intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group."
Segal wrote that Israeli leaders and officials have made their intent clear, noting Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant's comments about "fighting human animals" and Israeli Defense Forces spokesperson Daniel Hagari saying the "emphasis is on damage and not on accuracy."
Segal said Israel is perpetrating three of the five acts that fall under the U.N. convention's definition.
"The dropping of thousands and thousands of bombs in a couple of days, including phosphorus bombs, as we heard, on one of the most densely populated areas around the world, together with these proclamations of intent, this indeed constitutes genocidal killing, which is the first act," he said.
Israel "is also perpetrating act number two and three—that is, causing serious bodily or mental harm, and creating conditions designed to bring about the destruction of the group by cutting off water, food, supply of energy, bombing hospitals, ordering the fast evictions of hospitals," Segal added, noting that the World Health Organization has called the orders to evacuate hospitals "a death sentence for the sick and injured."
"So, we're seeing the combination of genocidal acts with special intent. This is indeed a textbook case of genocide," he said.
https://www.newsweek.com/holocaust-historian-israel-committing-genocide-raz-segal-1835346
"Israel Committing 'Textbook Case of Genocide,' Holocaust Historian Says"
1/ Yes – and other major historians of genocide are now speaking out and naming the US-Israeli atrocity – some later than others.
e.g., when I corresponded with the great American-Israeli genocide scholar, Omer Bartov, a few years ago, he refrained from calling Israel's US-enabled atrocities genocide. Not now:
https://zeteo.com/p/that-is-genocide-israeli-american
2/ And at the same time – as w/the Holocust's fascists – you have extreme Zionists like peepsqueek, who openly justifies Israel's planned mass murder of Palestinians…
…little pee: an open advocate of genocide, who openly targets Israel critics on this website as "pro-Hamas"…just like fascists targeted political opponents as "Bolsheviks" or part of 'the global Jewish conspiracy.'
Good choice – he's a newcomer to the Apartheid State of Israel Apologists game, and it shows. His s**t is the same rehashed lies & propaganda we've seen from the likes of others.
always were in different times with different folks,remember?
Time is different but crimes and attitude is the same.
and we get the same results; INSANITY
We get slightly different results, even the reverse results maybe. Engels said of Napoleon III that “history repeats itself once: first as grand tragedy, then as farce”. We can pretty much say the same of Trump when compared with Hitler, Mussolini or the fascism-promoter British Regime of the early 20th century: a total farce!
However I also have my own ideas about current neofascism, which I have occasionally shared online: I think that modern fascism is vigorless and senile in comparison with the much more dynamic classical fascism of a century ago and that, while a lot of what happens today reminds of what happened in the 1920s and 30s, there’s also that persistent feeling that to some extent the clock is ticking backwards towards 1917. And in some aspects the clock ticks back even to the French Revolution, after all Napoleon I was a proto-fascist himself but more importantly the “let them eat cake” false quote, the failure of the demands to “tax the rich” (instead of putting all the burden on the working class) which led to that fateful revolution, are the same today… just that with a fully evolved (educated, connected) working class, the full cycle of capitalist development completed (even to the extreme of causing an unprecedented planetary and civilizational ecocatastrophe, of reaching in full “the limits to growth”).
History doesn’t repeat itself probably, it sorta rhymes but that’s because, as my Marxist history teacher explained us more than 40 years ago: History is like a screw, it has cycles but those cycles are always further beyond in the other dimension, the one of real time and not just apparent cyclical time.
What’s with this Leftist fascination in calling Israelis Nazis? Does it come from a place of willful misunderstanding, and results in a childish branding of things you don’t understand as “evil”? Do you believe the Israeli government is evil, and if so, when will you mature past childhood, when we liked to believe the lie that some people are good and some people are bad? The Nazis were a Christian supremacist group, and the Israelis are a Jewish supremacist group. Even after both groups repeatedly say so, you still have so much demented liberal tolerance in your soul, to totally excuse religion’s role in mass genocides? It’s not only weird, it’s incredibly unwise.
Nazi is as Nazi does.
"What’s with this Leftist fascination in calling Israelis Nazis"
I don't recall if it was Stephen Colbert (before he went full MSM and sold out to the Democratic Party) but pretty sure it was him, on the Colbert Report, who said/lamented, "The truth has a liberal bias."
What’s with this commenter’s obsession with painting a broad brush about the left?
We, here, span the political continuum, from left, ex MAGA, establishment (minus neocons) to libertarian.
This person is trying to create a divide of like minded people, and to divert blame away from fascist Israel.
The Israelis with neocon counterparts in the US started this genocide. Not the left. Not the libertarians. But somehow someone else is to blame for Palestinians’ suffering.
It’s a very cynical manipulation from a psychopathic framework.
Keep that in mind.
They want you to have to defend yourself instead of criticizing Israel and Trump.
Exactly. The human right to think and adopt any ideology or worldview is bound to occur. However, to defend the extermination of one group because the other group thinks its superior is a litmus test for humanity, morality and the rule of law. The loss of any of which lowers us to that of the animal kingdom.
Name anything I said that was untrue. I do hate the Left. I hate anyone who thinks the United States deserves to exist. I hate grown-ass adults who believe in monsters or “evil” or “good guys vs bad guys” childish bullshit. It’s funny you cry about a military occupation/genocide in Israel, but what do you do about the on-going military occupation/genocide in your own country? You vote for it every 4 years with Jill Stein.
"I hate anyone who thinks the United States deserves to exist." That would mean you also hate everyone on the right. Thus you hate everyone. You need help.
Well we all need help, but ask yourself if a society permanently divided into two is something sustainable. If I believed all people were either right or left i’d kill myself
"What’s with this commenter’s obsession with painting a broad brush about the left?"
imho, that individual is a tar baby – too much of an idiosyncratic crank to bother with – like another mentally ill poster's yammering, they are irrelevant to greater political discourse – so i eventually hit block so as to be spared their distracting irritating-ness, and focus instead on the 'mainstream political toxins' around here.
let's put it this way – if we were white blood cells, our body would be in trouble if we couldn't tell their weird-ass biological flotsam from true pathogen associated molecular patterns.
in fact, thanks for reminder – more than enough said – blocking that individual now.
I finally blocked when they tried to claim that “my hatred” was why the IDF was motivated to slaughter Palestinians.
Labels are like targets; once applied, they give someone something to aim at.
I got tired of the inanity and blocked them: too many moving targets and goal posts in order to purge Israel of its blame, it seemed.
Oh absolutely. It gets to be a Gish Gallop and Whataboutism with revisionist Last Thursdayism (or Oct 7th-ism to be most succinct) thrown in. I do have a weakness for s**tball apologetics tho, I adore seeing how terrible of arguments people can pull out of their a-HEY HEY, KIDS !
"If Israelis don't want to stand accused of being Nazis, they should simply stop acting like Nazis."~ Norman Finkelstein
“I don’t give a flying fuck how many Muslims the Democratic party kills, we need to vote for them no matter what! Yes, I’m Jewish, but what does that have to do with anything, you fucking moron?” ~Noam Chomsky
Religion is a fig leaf. 45% of Israelis are secular, including Netanyahu.
Levy’s Three Factors
What does it take for one group of people to justify the pain and suffering of another group of people?
Several years ago, journalist Gideon Levy, who writes for the Israeli newspaper Haaretz as a trenchant critic of the occupation, argued that three factors are at play: chosenness, victimhood and dehumanization.
“Most Israelis believe deeply that we are the chosen people,” said Levy, “and we have the right to do whatever we want.”…
Resolution and Mediation at Tel Aviv University, a staggering 80 percent of Israeli Jews say their people’s suffering is unique in human history; 84 percent believe their victimization is worse than all other people that have suffered from persecution and injustice; and perhaps most troubling, 63 percent believe their victimhood grants them the moral entitlement to take any action in order to survive.
https://truthout.org/articles/polls-show-broad-support-in-israel-for-gazas-destruction-and-starvation/
https://archive.is/vvgFZ
Did you read this from yesterday?
No, thanks. Levy has been a rare truth teller.
Another good piece speaking to the universal complicity:
This Hell
https://consortiumnews.com/2025/04/08/craig-murray-this-hell/
BreakThrough News ®
@BTnewsroom
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This clip is from our upcoming film The Encampments, which features Mahmoud. It is set to be released this year by @watermelon _pics and executive produced by @macklemore.
We are releasing it today to counter the torrent of lies being told about him. Follow the links below to sign the petition for his freedom and to make a donation to his family.
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Again, you’re belief is completely class unconscious. Have some empathy for the IDF as the lower class of Israeli society. Where is your empathy for people who are forced to kill? “Religion is a figleaf” but all the IDF are indoctrinated into a religion that says genocide and child killing are their God’s wish. It’s insane to ignore that as a reason HOW they’re able to kill loads of completely innocent children. It doesn’t make any sense that their behavior be explained merely through nationalism. You seem to explain their behavior by simply labeling them “monsters”. Is that your honest scientific explanation?
I called them indoctrinated.
Now do your dissertation on your sympathy of Nazis and Mengele.
I await your tears and how hard it must’ve been for them.
But what are they indoctrinated into? Say what they’re indoctrinated into. I do have sympathy for Nazis and the IDF, because they’re mentally sick. I’m aware the IDF is sick from Judaism, but that’s not something you can admit, because you’re scared of the social consequences. It’s amazing you think your behavior is in any way adversarial to the people supportive of the cult committing this genocide. I can tell you’ve never attempted to have empathy for the IDF and Zionist Jews, because they LOVE your hatred and ridicule, it literally proves to them that they’re correct in thinking you’re a monster as well.
Strawman arguments are your forte.
I have stated multiple times in the past that Israel is a sick society indoctrinated by a power structure that doesn’t value them very much.
That said, barbarism and sadism are not things I worry about empathizing with, it’s the victims who deserve top consideration. There are people who refused to serve in the IDF and it wasn’t about religion.
Now take your stupid arguments and go build a monument for those who committed war crimes, okay? Those are the greatest victims according to you.
And this will be the last I respond to your inanity and obvious agenda of apologia of all things Israel.
Right, everyone is at fault, but them.
And to think Chaney and Bush endorsement of Harris was just a reverse psychology.
Harris would've done the same…!
And Democratic loyalists would be defending it while Republican loyalists would be attacking it.
Exactly…!
Please show me a quote where Harris proposed kicking the Palestinians out of Gaza?
Show me some quotes where she said she wouldn't support Israel's ongoing genocide/ethnic cleansing/collective punishment. Now tell me what would have been the difference between her and Trump?
Definitely the Dems don't have the chutzpah to challenge the Zionist machine.
"show me a quote where Harris proposed kicking the Palestinians out of Gaza?"
It's been explained to you – but you have no answer, so you repeat yourself:
1/ Ethnic cleansing is a longstanding right-wing Israeli idea. And from 10/7, Israel has continued this – declaring 'voluntary' ethnic cleansing one 'end plan' of its genocidal siege.
2/ From start, Biden pledged unconditional support.
3/ And the one time the US addressed Israeli cabinet calls for ethnic cleansing? It covered Israel by denying the calls were 'official' policy – later adding, 'Of course, Israel has the sovereign right to do anything it wants.'
4/ Upshot?
Whether or not Harris "proposed" ethnic cleansing, Trump's plan does not affect what Israel declared, and did, just as openly & freely, under Biden/Harris.
"After US Rebuke, Top Israeli Ministers Double Down on Ethnic Cleansing Push" commondreams 1/4/24
your impression is requested…
https://t.me/warmonitors/34644
Rule 97, Human Shields—
Geneva Conventions Article 19, second paragraph, of the 1949 Geneva Convention I provides: The responsible authorities shall ensure that [fixed establishments and mobile medical units] are, as far as possible, situated in such a manner that attacks against military objectives cannot imperil their safety.
Geneva Convention III Article 23, first paragraph, of the 1949 Geneva Convention III provides: No prisoner of war may at any time be sent to, or detained in areas where he may be exposed to the fire of the combat zone, nor may his presence be used to render certain points or areas immune from military operations.
Geneva Convention IV Article 28 of the 1949 Geneva Convention IV provides: “The presence of a protected persons may not be used to render certain points or areas immune from military operations.”
Convention (IV) relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War, Geneva, 12 August 1949, Article 28.
Additional Protocol I Article 12(4) of the 1977 Additional Protocol I provides: Under no circumstances shall medical units be used in an attempt to shield military objectives from attack. Whenever possible, the Parties to the conflict shall ensure that medical units are so sited that attacks against military objectives do not imperil their safety.
And that is the problem in Gaza. Hamas fighters are embedded with civilians. Somehow Israel is supposed to know who is a Hamas fighter and who just a civilian. Then find a way to kill the Hamas fighter with out killing any civilians. That is just not going to happen.
Is your objection that the government of Gaza is "embedded with civilians"? Seriously?
Just out of curiosity, where do you expect the party governing a territory to operate from?
What I am pointing out is that is why civilians die in Gaza.
They die because Israel makes no attempt to protect them. None. Zilch. Nada.
That is certainly not true. Israel has dropped over 7 million warning leaflets, made 70,000 direct phone calls warning of attacks on building, sent over 13 million text messages and left over 15 million automated voice messages to notify citizens of the need for military action.
Tell me what has Hamas done to keep their civilians out of harms way?
And they bombed them WHILE they were evacuating, and they bombed them when they got to WHERE they were told to evacuate to. And Hamas are the "designated terrorists". Why would you expect them to care about innocent lives? And does that justify what Israel has done/is doing? NO.
You are mixing up a terrorist organization with a legitimate government, recognized by the world body. Hamas cannot even get a seat at the UN General Assembly, which is made up of 57 declared Muslim States.
Many Arab countries do not like Hamas, or even have some hostilities to it. There are three reasons that can explain such a paradox: 1) They are afraid that Hamas might stir up Islamic extremism inside their own countries;
2) The extremist attitudes of Hamas have become a tremendous barrier obstructing the permanent resolution to Israel-Arab relations;
3) They are worrying about the strengthening of Iran. In the final analysis, no matter whether giving support or having hostility towards Hamas, Arab countries formulate their policies on the basis of an overall evaluation and contemplation over their own national interests.
Yes, the "terrorist" organization that Israel wanted in power to ensure there would be no viable Palestinian state.
Netanyahu: “Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas,” Netanyahu told a meeting of his Likud party in 2019. “This is part of our strategy – to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank.”
“Bezalel Smotrich, leader of Israel’s Religious Zionist Party and the current finance minister: The PA is a liability and Hamas is an asset. On the international playing field in this game of delegitimization, think about for a second, the PA is a liability and Hamas is an asset. It’s a terrorist organization. Nobody will recognize it, nobody will give it status at the ICC [International Criminal Court] and nobody will let them push resolutions at the UN [causing us to] need an American veto,” Smotrich said in 2015.
The Hamas Covenant 1988 is a comprehensive manifesto comprised of 36 separate articles, all of which promote the basic HAMAS goal of destroying the State of Israel through Jihad (Islamic Holy War). The following are excerpts of the HAMAS Covenant:
Goals of the HAMAS: "The Islamic Resistance Movement is a distinguished Palestinian movement, whose allegiance is to Allah, and whose way of life is Islam. It strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine." (Article 6)
On the destruction of Israel: "Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it." (Preamble)
The exclusive Moslem nature of the area: "The land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf [Holy Possession] consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgment Day. No one can renounce it or any part, or abandon it or any part of it." (Article 11)
What does the charter that replaced the 1988 charter in 2017 say on those subjects?
I don't get it. What's wrong with the old charter?
The difference between genuine Islamic movements and their enemies is Hamas is frank and principled. Israel lies and is immoral.
The vast majority of the world wants to see the apartheid state of Israel dismantled but is powerless to do it. Thus, the Palestinains struggle with what they have.
Why don't you quote the Likud charter which says Israeli sovereignty from the river to the sea?
A likud charter that has not been amended, while you fail to quote Hamas' amended charter.
No one takes this propganda of yours seriously.
For those who want to compare Israel with South African Apartheid, please answer these questions:
Which Israeli hospitals refuse to admit Israeli Arabs?
Which Israeli restaurants refuse to serve Israeli Arabs?
Which Israeli universities refuse to admit Israeli Arabs?
Which Israeli buses refuse to board Israeli Arabs?
In what elections are Israeli Arabs not allowed to vote?
In what area of public life are Arab women not allowed to serve?
There are Arab Judges serving in Israel
There are thousands of Arab Israeli police officers protecting Israeli citizens
Arabs on the Israeli national sports teams
Dr. Marian Khatib has been appointed the director of the Breast Surgery Center at Tel Aviv Sourasky Medical Center. Dr. Khatib said that being an Arab has never been a barrier for her.
Samer Haj-Yehia is not just an Arab Chairman of the Board in the biggest bank of Israel, he also studied at Hebrew University.
Major Ella Waweya, an Arab woman has the rank of Major in the Israel Defense Forces.
LOL! These Zionist talking heads are playing with your head. apartheid Israel does not have to be like apartheid south Africa to be apartheid.
"No one takes this propganda of yours seriously." You do. Otherwise you would not take the time to reply.
And that changes the Netanyahu and Smotrich statements how? You just keep repeating Hasbara troll shit regardless of what comment you're replying to.
The only kind of legitimate government is individual self-government. Every other kind is just a matter of whether the criminal gang involved is large, wealthy, and has fancy uniforms for its members.
Thomas, would you call yourself an anarchist or do you follow anarchism?
Yes, I’m an anarchist.
No they're not.
So, you accept the "excuse" that Hamas is ALWAYS embedded with civilians? In a small enclave like Gaza, it's pretty hard to NOT be around civilians! Don't believe this for one second. Israel could care less about exterminating civilians! Isn't the damage and death we see in Gaza ENOUGH to condemn Israel's actions? Any type of "apology" for Israel's actions can be labelled BLINDNESS!
So then don't start a war that endangers your own civilians.
That is true, as Hamas purposely and intentionally invited Israel into Gaza on Oct 7th, by way of massacring 1200 Israelis and rounding up hundreds of Israeli hostages of all ages, knowing that Israel would have to respond in the most aggressive manner.
On the other hand, Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh: "We love death like our enemies love life! We love Martyrdom."
Israel invited the Hamas attack by kidnapping thousands of Palestinians and holding them in rape dungeons.
The “1200” Israelis who died that day were shot in the back by their own IOF.
What is your primary source for that gem?? — Please do not dodge the question and be very specific
Harretz
No. The friendly fire incidents, which did occur, were small. And there would have been zero Israel losses had Hamas not made the attack.
The
friendly fireHannible Directive killed "many". And that's from Israel's media. And whatever would have happened if Hamas hadn't attacked is moot. You should apply at our state department. You sound just like that horse faced bitch, Tammy Bruce."if Hamas hadn't attacked is moot" How is that moot? No one dies if there is no attack. How can you not understand that basic fact?
Second, the most creditably numbers posted show a 4% friendly fire rate. Considering all the confusion of that day and comparing it to other battles that was a low rate. In the Desert Storm war fought mainly on open desserts, that friendly fire rate was 17%
Because Hamas DID attack. You just keep going back to Oct 7th after each and every Israeli atrocity.
And there is a difference between friendly fire and the Hannible Directive. Friendly fire isn't done deliberately. And Israel's own media said "many" were killed by the IDF.
There would be zero Israeli losses if the Zionists hadn’t stolen Palestinian land and murdered Palestinians.
@peepsqueek @disqus_lbkuZ0DrY6:disqus@disqus_5VTdHrdJht:disqus I just want you to know that I am upvoting @I'm with the banned because I assume he is merely using your logic against you. Israel killed many of its own on that day. However, the current culpable government thwarts any investigations, so we are left to put the pieces together based on eye witness testimony and media reports. The extent of the Hannibal directive and the cowardly Israeli retreat that led to so many deaths may never be fully uncovered.
I was merly speaking Truth to a propagandist.
Yes there were friendly fire deaths that day. There would have been none if there was no attack? Neither would there have been 50,000 more deaths in the following months. And the notion that most of deaths of Israelis were caused by Israel is insane. What we do know is that over 1000 Hamas terrorists were killed that day and another 160 were captured.
knowing that Israel would have to respond in the most aggressive manner.
And by "aggressive" you mean gruesome. Using rules of engagement that terrorists can only dream about. But keep blaming Hamas.
No, bombing areas that continue Hamas and Hamas military assets. Two million Gazan are still alive after 18 months of bombing and doing without food or fresh water, means someone is not tell you the truth.
That's like justifying Nazi war crimes because some of their victims are still alive.
No, bombing areas that continue Hamas and Hamas military assets
While continuing to disregard the lives of innocent noncombatants. That has been a constant since day one.
Two million Gazan are still alive after 18 months of bombing and doing without food or fresh water, means someone is not tell you the truth.
It's hard not to call you a Hasbara troll when you've used this same comment repeatedly no matter the comment you're replying to. I hope you're getting paid well.
One can say the same about you being a Hamas troll.
That would be true if I defended Hamas. JUST ONCE.
The war didn’t start with Hamas.
The war started with Zionism.
It started with Islamism. Since the invention of Islam, Arabs have a historical track record. Egyptians were not Arab, nor did they speak Arabic. Syrians (Assyrians) were not Arabs, nor did they speak Arabic. Moroccans, Libyans, and Tunisia (Berbers) were not Arabs, nor did they speak Arabic. Iraqis (Kurds, Assyrians, Armenians, Azides, etc) were not Arabs nor did they speak Arabic, Libya was not Arab, nor did they speak Arabic. The Sudan (tribal Africa) was not Arab, nor did they speak Arabic, Tunisia was not Arab, nor did they speak Arabic. Question: Why are they all called "Arab" Countries, Arab States, belong to the League of “Arab” Nations, and have to live under some form of Islamic Sharia? —Please give an academic response
Very simple. FACT: The Arab Muslims were a minority in their own empire for the better part of 300 years. Populations of the Middle East were not forced to convert. Over time it became advantageous to become Muslim. More so, while "Islamism" as you call it is growing in leaps and bounds, western liberalism is imploding and Zionists is losing adherents in droves as we speak. Look at the staying power of Islam.
And if you do, then don't blame Israel for being ruthless barbarians.
If they were ruthless, there were not be two million people still alive after 18 months of bombing the tiny geographical area. Someone is not telling the truth.
Its the resolve of those incredibly faithful human beings who love life and thwart the evil Israel rains down upon them daily.
The world marvels at rockets fired from Gaza not realizing,
A fifth-generation refugee longs for what was once her home.
Akin to the Heroes of the Warsaw Ghetto uprising,
They remind us freedom is more powerful than any “Iron Dome.”
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I think killing at least 60,000 in the most disgusting of ways qualifies as being ruthless. If the roles were reversed the word HOLOCAUST would be being used.
History did not start on Oct. 7th. Your morals and those of those who upvote you are akin to the rapist who in defense of his actions focuses on the scratches the women inflicted on him in her defense. I mean, my God! if she blew him away with a magnum, reasonable society would be sympathetic to the mitigating circumstances. You people are just racist. What you do is justified. What others do is always criminal.
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"History did not start on Oct. 7th" No recorded history started around 4000 years ago give or take a few 1000 years. But with did start on Oct 7 is this round of fighting. All deaths that have occurred in Gaza is a direct result of Sinwar and his friends deciding to start a war. I don't know what they thought they would accomplish, but I'm willing to bet they did not see the potential final outcome of the Palestinians being expelled from Gaza. AKA the trump plan.
"it's pretty hard to NOT be around civilians" Exactly, that is why civilians are dying. Hamas knew civilians deaths would occurred but they chose have their one day killing spree, regardless of the cot.
It's also hard NOT to make any attempt to separate the civilians from the combatants. But Israel has been doing that for 18 months running.
They made NO FUCKING ATTEMPT to seriously try to evacuate the innocent noncombatants from the very beginning. They even bombed evacuation sites since every inch of Gaza MIGHT have a Hamas member present. So, what you're condonig, is Israel's right to kill anything that moves and ask questions later. And the problem is that you don't think there is anything wrong with that you sick fuck.
Well I can always tell when you are upset because you resort to your national gutter language and used the "F" word. What a shame you can not express yourself better. What you need to understand is that people die in war including the innocents. Name a war where innocents are not killed? It does not happen.
Whether I'm upset or not, I couldn't express myself any better. And I use the "F' word when I don't care if my comment gets held up for moderation.
What you need to understand is that people die in war including the innocents. Name a war where innocents are not killed? It does not happen.
And this IS the shit that upsets me. I've seen you talk about shit I don't have a clue about, but you act stupid when it comes to Israel's blatant disregard for innocent human life. It's like you're just too god damn stubborn to admit you're wrong regardless of the pile of rubble that is now Gaza.
“The presence of a protected persons may not be used to render certain points or areas immune from military operations.”
And @peepsqueek:disqus has the audacity to say this is a quote. It's grammatically wrong, which either indicates tampering or dumb people who can't write making laws. Regardless everything cited applies to Israeli war crimes. That's why it was upvoted.
Does this person know how much evidence has been accumulated against Israel using Palestinians as human shields? What world does this person live in?
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It’s a con job.
It’s always a con job, with multiple postings to drown out the sensible.
Just for you– Statement of the International Criminal Court (ICC) Prosecutor Karim A.A. Khan KC:
On the basis of evidence collected and examined by my Office, I have reasonable grounds to believe that Yahya SINWAR (Head of the Islamic Resistance Movement (“Hamas”) in the Gaza Strip), Mohammed Diab Ibrahim AL-MASRI, more commonly known as DEIF (Commander-in-Chief of the military wing of Hamas, known as the Al-Qassam Brigades), and Ismail HANIYEH (Head of Hamas Political Bureau) bear criminal responsibility for the following war crimes and crimes against humanity committed on the territory of Israel and the State of Palestine (in the Gaza strip) from at least 7 October 2023:
Extermination as a crime against humanity, contrary to article 7(1)(b) of the Rome Statute;
Murder as a crime against humanity, contrary to article 7(1)(a), and as a war crime, contrary to article 8(2)(c)(i);
Taking hostages as a war crime, contrary to article 8(2)(c)(iii);
Rape and other acts of sexual violence as crimes against humanity, contrary to article 7(1)(g), and also as war crimes pursuant to article 8(2)(e)(vi) in the context of captivity;
Torture as a crime against humanity, contrary to article 7(1)(f), and also as a war crime, contrary to article 8(2)(c)(i), in the context of captivity;
Other inhumane acts as a crime against humanity, contrary to article 7(l)(k), in the context of captivity;
Cruel treatment as a war crime contrary to article 8(2)(c)(i), in the context of captivity; and
Outrages upon personal dignity as a war crime, contrary to article 8(2)(c)(ii), in the context of captivity.
My Office submits that the war crimes alleged in these applications were committed in the context of an international armed conflict between Israel and Palestine, and a non-international armed conflict between Israel and Hamas running in parallel. We submit that the crimes against humanity charged were part of a widespread and systematic attack against the civilian population of Israel by Hamas and other armed groups pursuant to organisational policies. Some of these crimes, in our assessment, continue to this day.
What about Netanyahu and Gantz?
They responded in kind!
Yes, by increasing their crimes.
You can play all the words games that you like, but the good people of Gaza are only suffering because of Hamas's actions and methods.
They responded in kind!
How is he playing word games? You admitted as much for Christ's sakes.
Somehow I do believe that you have some twisted connection to the Shoah. I hope you didn't witness it but are fooled by the propaganda that yehudi suffering is the only suffering. Thus an inferiority complex develops which resents the Palestinians for resisting against all odds in the face of Israeli-Nazi like genocide. Whereas some yehudis retreated into despair, others were cured. You have become that which you hate.
I admire the Palestinians resisting against all odds.
I don’t admire Israel’s kapos, Hamas.
Lol, you must be referring to the PA.
However, I am glad that not admiring Hamas is not the highest on your priority list when it comes to calling out Israeli genocide. Its a good thing the resistance doesn't need your admiration. What I believe Palestinians can do without is your pedantries which amount to a false equivalence.
The PA is more like the “Jewish Order Service” in the Warsaw Ghetto. Hamas actively does the Israeli regime’s dirty work in return for favorable treatment (including invading Gaza to help them suppress the Palestinian street’s rebellion against themselves).
The PA is more like the “Jewish Order Service” in the Warsaw Ghetto. Hamas actively does the Israeli regime’s dirty work in return for favorable treatment (including invading Gaza to help them suppress the Palestinian street’s rebellion against themselves).
Admitting they committed war crimes. good for you.
"Admitting they committed war crimes. good for you."
ah, but it was good genocide.
Netanyahu and Ganz "responded in kind" to Hamas's war crimes?
So you admit the same criminal court says Israeli leaders are guilty of genocide – you just say, 'I'm fine with genocide – Israeli genocide, because Hamas killed a lot of noncombatants first'…
…and you also say, 'Fuck getting hostages back alive – genociding more Palestinians and taking Gaza comes first.'
Thanks for sharing.
In February 2025, the United States Department of the Treasury imposed sanctions on Khan after US president Donald Trump sanctioned ICC officials for issuing arrest warrants against Netanyahu and Gallant for alleged war crimes in Gaza.
Israeli soldier says every unit 'keeps a Palestinian as human shield'
In an anonymous article for Haaretz, a senior Israeli officer writes that the army has 'a sub-army of Palestinian slaves'
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From Haaretz:
Innocent Palestinians are regularly forced by soldiers to enter houses in Gaza to make sure there are no terrorists or explosives. So why is the IDF's Military Police Criminal Investigation Division opening only six investigations into the use of human shields?
In Gaza, human shields are used by Israeli soldiers at least six times a day.
I served in Gaza for nine months, and first came across these procedures, called "mosquito protocol" in December 2023. It was only two months into the ground offensive, long before there was a shortage of dogs from the IDF's canine unit, Oketz, who were used for this purpose. This became the insane, unofficial excuse for this insane, unofficial procedure. I didn't realize then how ubiquitous using human shields, whom we referred to as a "shawish," would become.
Today, almost every platoon keeps a "shawish," and no infantry force enters a house before a "shawish" clears it. This means there are four "shawishes" in a company, twelve in a battalion, and at least 36 in a brigade. We operate a sub-army of slaves.
The highest-ranking personnel on the ground have known about the use of human shields for more than a year, and no one has tried to stop it. On the contrary, it was defined as an operational necessity…..
It's important to note that we can enter houses without using human shields. We did it for months, according to a proper entry procedure which included sending in a robot, a drone, or a dog. This procedure proved itself, but it took time, and the command wanted achievements here and now.
In other words, we forced Palestinians to act as human shields not because it was safer for IDF troops, but because it was faster. That's why we risked the lives of Palestinians who were suspected of nothing other than being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
The selectivity they choose to focus on is incredible.
And the rationalizations, like “you killed the indigenous peoples of the US,” so Israel can do the same.
No, that was wrong and unconscionable, just like what Israel is doing.
If I follow this twisted path of logic, Ted Bundy hacked up a bunch of girls back in the day, so free rein to hack up a bunch of girls today. Two wrongs indeed make a right.
Easy to verify! —Hamas broke every known UN Rules of War and Geneva Conventions to set the ground rules of this war on Oct 7th
You can verify anything I copy and paste from the actual source. In this case, the Geneva Conventions.
Hamas broke every known
Really? Hamas used gas, biological warfare, human shields, starved the Israeli population, etc.
Your hyperbole is an utter failure.
I said: "Hamas broke every known UN Rules of War and Geneva Conventions to set the ground rules of this war on Oct 7th"
Everything else is all on Hamas who could stop this war on any given day of the week. Instead they continue say that there will be more Oct 7's, leaving Israel with no choice but to continue.
Hamsas is not starving as there is more than enough evidence that they have been hijacking humanitarian aid for themselves.
You cannot be denied humanitarian aid and claim to be starving for 18 months without food, clean water, or even soap to clean your behind.
Do you know why the people support the armed resistance? Because they also share with the people the suffering and dying. And yeah I am sure Hamas uses what food they can get to keep those Israelis SOLDIERS alive, while your heroes starve an entire population.
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You can starve or goes without fresh water for a week, you cannot starve for 18 months and two million people are still alive.
And Hamas is not supported by most of its neighbors.
Their neighboring governments are traitors. We are talking about the masses of decent people in the ME and around the world.
So, you don't deny that Israel is violating "every known UN Rules of War and Geneva Conventions", it's just they are justified for doing so because Hamas did it. I mean, it's like you don't think Israel is bound by ANY laws because of Oct 7th. You're wrong. Legally and morally.
Yes! Has Israel crossed the line, sure, that is a natural response when fighting terrorist who feel they do not have to abide by established rule of warfare and hide themselves and military assets among civilian populations.
Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh: "We love death like our enemies love life! We love Martyrdom."
No. TERRORISM is TERRORISM. There is nothing natural about it. And nothing LEGAL about it. And you repeatedly quoting the Hamas leader doesn't justify Israel's terrorism either.
There is no evidence because there is no humanitarian aide.
Just a lot of hasbara ( that’s Hebrew for ‘hot air’ ) from you Nazis.
"Hamsas is not starving as there is more than enough evidence that they have been hijacking humanitarian aid for themselves."
1/ Bixby said Israel was starving the general population – not Hamas.
2/ As to Hamas – "Evidence" Hamas has been "hijacking humanitarian aid for themselves"?
You just never stop making crap up:
the "evidence" shows Israel did nothing while gangs looted humanitarian aid, and that Israel blocked security from stopping the looting:
"Israel Allows Looting of 109 UN Aid Trucks Entering Gaza" [11/18 Days of Palestine]:
"Haaretz: 29 Humanitairian aid organizations…accused Israel of allowing armed gangs to [attack] their aid trucks entering Gaza and loot them after taking high taxes from the drivers. [And] that the Israeli army further attacked aid security personnel and Gaza police to allow gangs’ looting."
"Everything…is all on Hamas who could stop this war"
'You hear that, Hamas? Yea, it' me – lil' peesquee – the manliest IDF known t'Israel!
'Now I just know yore using this here maternity hospital as a HQ…
'…So you got a chance – throw down yer Israel-hatin' guns and bring out those hostages…
'…or I WON'T HAVE NO CHOICE but t' start shooting these inseminated fat-bellied subhuman Ay-rabs in theys Muslim bellies…
'…one at time.,,
,,,'til you DO bring 'em out.
'AHHHHM COUNTIN', AYRAAAAAABS!!!!'
The "ground rules" didn't change. Israel has no right to change them. War crimes are still war crimes.
The problem you have is that in 2008-09 Hamas was willing to cede to ICJ jurisdiction and cooperated with the Goldstone report, but Israel refused to allow an investigation. Judge Goldstone (yehudi) found that Hamas violated the laws of war by firing rockets indiscriminately. (bless their hearts, the rockets are 100% manufactured in Gaza. In defense, Hamas laments the fact that they can't make them more accurate to insure they only target military assets. And since the first rockets fired nearly a quarter of a century ago, they killed around 40 "civilians.")
Israel rejected the report and forced Goldstone to partially retract because the majority of his report was damning to Israel. Of course his colleagues stood by thew report.
In addition, are you serious when you say that "Hamas… set the ground rules…" So if Hamas violates the laws of war, Israel can do it in spades?
Finally, since those of Hamas accused of war crimes are now dead, why wouldn't you focus on the wanted criminals running loose now, who are still slaughtering innocents in spades?
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Israel an every Israeli settlement was removed in 2005, and it appeased no one.
Tens of thousands of rockets have been fired into Israel by Hamas over the years and every time an Israeli early warning sirens goes off, hundreds of Israel parents have to grab their children and run for the bomb shelters. It is unacceptable!
Every Hamas rocket fired into Israel is a clear act of war, and a war crime if directed at civilian populated areas. It is unacceptable and Israel is correct immediate retaliation.
and a war crime if directed at civilian populated areas
Ah, unless of course if it's 80,000 tons of bombs dropped on a heavily civilian (mostly women and children) populated area in Gaza.
Then way are two million Gaza still alive after 18 months of bombing and doing without food or fresh water. Someone is not telling you the whole truth.
I get it. Can't be a war crime unless everyone is dead. Your Hasbara skills are lacking.
and a war crime if directed at civilian populated areas
Ah, unless of course if it's 80,000 tons of bombs dropped on a heavily civilian (mostly women and children) populated area in Gaza.
2005 was a Sharon redeployment military tactic to steal the West Bank. The situation in Gaza became even worse after the withdrawal.
The rockets are Warsaw Ghetto hero tactics. The rockets killed very few over a quarter of a century but they make a huge statement that we are not going silently into the night. And are you joking when you have tears to shed for poor Israelis running to bomb shelters but no soul for the innocent populations of Palestine, Lebanon and Syria that are being slaughtered by the Spartan like Israeli war machine?
On behalf of Hamas I apologize that we don't have the precise weapons. But don't fret we're getting there. It just takes time.
Is is not a matter of reason. Not at all. Reasoning won't help. It is a matter of power. And of the grains of sand that we can contribute to the power to put an end to Zionism.
You really are a fool if you think those a legitimate reasons why Israel has been on an 18 month rampage of ruthless brutality. Countering Hamas' violations of the Geneva Conventions with daily war crimes is somehow appropriate in your mind. Now, what Geneva Conventions allowed the IDF to kill 15 aid workers and bury them in shallow graves? And by the way, Israel uses Palestinian human shields to clear buildings. They used to use dogs, but hey, why waste a dog when you have subhumans that can do the job.
Hamas has had 18 months to lay down their arms and release all the hostages, which would have put an immediate stop to this mess that they initiated on Oct 7th.
Had Hamas done this, they would have saved the good people of Gaza 18 months of grief and chaos. and they would today be sleeping in their own beds and eating at their own tables.
But Hamas DIDN"T do that. So, the onus goes to those who decided that a genocidal type of attack was in order which completely disregarded the safety of innocent noncombatants in Gaza. And that would be on the peerless terrorists of Israel.
The safety of non-combatants was on Hamas on Oct 7th and then ran back to hide behind human shields.
LOL
And after Oct 7th it was on Israel. And Israel responded by acting like the terrorists they claim Hamas to be but with state of the art weaponry. You keep admitting Israel are also terrorists.
You are on the Israel overreacted kick again. Did you expect Israel to be happy with the 1000 plus Palestinians fighters that they killed on Oct 7 and call the war a draw?
I never been off "the Israel overreacted kick". And that would be because it's been ongoing for 18 months. Terrorism is never acceptable.
"…and they would today be sleeping in their own beds and eating at their own tables…"
Free from IDF murders like during the recent ceasefire, right ?
Nobody believes your lies, jakesqueak.
"Countering Hamas' violations of the Geneva Conventions with daily war crimes is somehow appropriate in your mind."
"Somehow" humanly legitimate – except, in little pee's depraved brain, it actually is legitimate – ugly as it is, this little pisser is a model of how radical Zionist mass murderers think.
"Rule 97, Human Shields– Geneva Conventions"
1/ Historically, multiple Israeli and international human rights investigations have shown Israel makes massive use of Palestinian human shields – not Hamas, despite Hamas's other major war crimes.
2/ Israel almost never supports its claims of Hamas using human shields – and, when it does, its evidence often falls apart, as with Israel justifying its destruction of Al-Shifa Hospital because it supposedly had a Hamas HQ under it…or the Red Crescent ambulance massacre.
…lies debunked by major journalist & human rights investigations.
3/ Note that little pee quotes Geneva law articles – but not its determinations re Israel. (His rejection of the law he quotes is a separate q.)
4/ Below: Israel's use of human shields – and journalistic and human rights organization judgments contradicting Israel's claims.
Note: I highly recommend Owen Jones' coverage of Israeli crimes, and political and media complicity. Trust me! – his analysis and debunking of Israeli/media lies is forceful and immediately useful for debate. On Youtube:
Owen Jones, "Israel's Human Shield Lies Taken Apart"
As is often the case, Trump is offensive to a great many people who have the same opinion he does, only he states things bluntly lacking regard for social graces. He won't candy coat things. The Israel cosplay project has always only ever been about grabbing an 'incredible piece of real estate' by the *****. There's never been a different plan than ethnic cleansing if not genocide of the native population for more beachfront discos. The US has been backing that avidly for my entire life.
I have always wanted US leadership to be as clownish and vulgar as possible, because it's been vitally important that the world stop listening to Washington DC.
This is getting old pretty fast.
If trump is so gun ho on kicking out the Palestinians, he should move them to South Florida.
The economy there would probably boom! I have done much bizzness with immigrant Palestinians and Lebanese and they are the best of people I have ever known and VERY hard working and smart.
They also have real artists among them, not the junk artists we seem to produce.
Tell that to trump.
Ghouls gloming onto Palestinian life… Two of the most ugly beings Earth has ever produced.
" having a peace force like the United States there, controlling and owning the Gaza Strip, would be a good thing. " …
a PEACE FORCE…What a bunch of bullsh!t.
Monsters with smiling faces.
The bigger the smile, the sharper the knife.
Dunno how to tell Don Genocide this, but, in terms of Gaza, he already broke it & already bought it.
"Oink oink," they squealed, "I know just the greatest spot for a golf course."
Not sure how this is going to work, given that Trump will be dead long before any Gazan Riviera comes to fruition.
I'm fairly sure that Pripyat (town by Chernobyl) will be safely re-inhabited before Trump Strip (A President Trump Development by TrumpCorp LLC) sells its first condo.
War Crimes charges soon to be at hand: UNSC….
.???….
And guess what? No one is really standing in the way of those 2 butchers.
And don't mention those organized paid protests all over. Gaza was not mentioned by most except code pink in some lonely corner.
The protesters weren’t paid, but the “grassroots” organization got millions from open society.
Some banners said, “hands off NATO”, nothing about Gaza, so you know it was a party agenda, because people don’t gaf about NATO when they are staring down personal loss, due to financing of it.
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“Palestinians can go anywhere they wish” except for where they wish, apparently.
We hubristically want Palestinians to stay where they are, but life is ultimately more important. I assume many Palestinian women and children will sadly see Trump’s plan as an act of Allah , and end up praising it. Will Leftists support their decision to leave, or tell them to stay and fight Israel, which they’ve been telling them forever?
No one on the left is telling Palestinians what they must do.
They have agency. WTF is up with this narrative that they are under control of the left?
The only forces pushing them are fascist US leadership and an ethnosupremacy state.
What is wrong with you?
And God working through Trump? Gtfo
Genocide and ethnic cleansing is evil. This narrative that it’s just for the greater good for Palestinians didn’t work under the luchorpan, or whatever name he/she had either. Deceptive concern trolling and blame at its worst.
The “Free Palestine” movement does not even mention the Palestinian people at all. It is primarily a movement to end Israeli occupation of Palestinian land. Within the last year, even as Palestinians say they’ll die for their nation, Leftists never said “but your lives are more important”. Jill Stein, in her horrible Presidential campaign, never once said “Palestinians should be able to leave Palestine if they wish”. No, she just supported the hubristic and non-pragmatic war for liberation that IS the genocide of the Palestinian people. You Leftists have become so corrupted by your support for “good” violence, that you’re just tools of the CIA now. Free The Palestinian People.
You are beyond stupid and transparent as glass.
The movement was supportive of what Palestinians have been seeking. Israel could not accomplish ethnic cleansing without US money. There would be no genocide without it. There would be no lives destroyed. The protests were seeking divestments from the very tools to kill them. The protests called for arms embargoes, but you think it’s a greater moral standing to tell people that they should submit to their murderers without their own self determination. Palestinians were putting up signs thanking the protesters, thanking Aaron Bushnell. There was even graffiti in Gaza saying vote for Jill Stein.
You would’ve made a great German WWII style.
And you’ve revealed yourself, first pretending “we” as part of the left, when obviously your underlying agenda is pushing the people out of Gaza as a “better, moral human”.
You’re a sick person. And I wouldn’t be surprised if your message comes from deep state. Every accusation, a confession and projection.
No one buys that you give a shit about the people. No one.
I’m not part of The Left. The United States does not exist, I don’t wish to be cruel to my indigenous friends and pretend it does. I’ve said nothing untrue in my comments. Palestinians are only harmed by people who think “solidarity” means Americans also burning to death. Every Palestinian I talk to says they would leave the area if they could. That goes against the prejudicial war narrative spewed by Leftists. The solidarity Palestinians need is outsiders valuing their lives over their ideals, but have you noticed that whenever someone says Palestinians merely BE ABLE TO LEAVE A WARZONE, they get slimed by Leftists as fascists, pro-Israel, agents of the CIA, just like you did to me? You speak of Palestinians having agency, but you repeatedly take that away as you push the only solution to their problem is a war they will not possibly win. And then when they fight that war and get slaughtered you cry about it like it wasn’t your idea. Your moral righteousness is a material danger.
You wrote “we” in your first comment.
WE do want Palestinians to be able to stay where they are.
Bullshit, liar.
When has anyone slimed Palestinians?
I said they have agency. That means they can stay, fight or leave.
That doesn’t require other people to stop protesting an obvious genocide. That is valuing life, you moron. That is saying it’s wrong to kill. It’s wrong to slaughter people because you think you have supremacy. It’s wrong to kill to steal land.
It’s wrong.
Your psychopathic attempts at projection don’t work.
You are promoting the fascist ethnosupremacy propaganda that telling them to leave is good for them. You are pretending that if they want to leave it is in a vacuum and not because the US and Israelis are acting like Nazis.
No one on the left is holding them back from leaving.
You don’t have Palestinian friends. I’d be surprised if you have any friends at all.
Where is your outrage at atrocities being perpetrated by monsters? Why do you blame people fighting against monsters?
Again, you ain’t that slick.
And the so-called left has no power. Zero power. So how do they hold Palestinians back? And from going where?
I said the most basic, human, peaceful thing, when I said Palestinians have a right to leave if they wish, and your moral righteousness kicked in and said I was pro-Israel. This is what I mean about Leftists taking away the agency of the Palestinian people, because the only view that’s propagated as good from the Left, is support for an unwinnable sacrificial war of resistance.
Again, your strawman argument isn’t working..
No one is taking away the agency of Palestinians except for Israel and Trump.
No one is saying they should fight.
What people are saying is that genocide has to stop. Children are already not fighting.
This isn’t a war.
It is genocide. Period.
It’s a genocide because it’s a war. And it’s a war because many have agreed with Hamas that war is the only avenue towards freedom. Aren’t you one of those people?
It was a genocide going back to the beginning, way before Hamas ever existed. That was the plan.
I agree. But Israel wants Palestinians to be as violent as possible since that justifies Palestinian genocide in the minds of Israelis.
They were shooting peaceful protesters long before, involved in pogroms, destroying groves, kidnapping and jailing children, restricting movement, food and water, torturing and raping prisoners among other horrors.
The neocons covered for their lies over decades, funded, provided arms, intelligence and vetoes at the UN. The Yinon plan and Wolfowitz plots exposed by General Wesley Clark demonstrate that this has jack shit to do with Hamas.
There should be a penalty for all of that, just like the Nuremberg trials.
The protesters and the videos are the voices of Palestinians who have suffered from the barbarism. Without them making noise, it’s murder as a business model.
Blame the criminals, not the cries.
Israel killed a significant number of Israelis on Oct 7th.
Israelis aren’t that important to the power structure either. They are indoctrinated tools.
Cults often sacrifice their own for the good of the cult
You said this:
Stop lying. No one has told them to stay and fight.
That’s not basic peaceful wishes. That’s ascribing blame to “other” people and removing the actual agency of the people, Palestinians, who can and have determined what they want to do. You treat Palestinians as ignorant mindless children controlled by a mixed group of people, that you want to call “the left”.
Stop it.
Saying “Free Palestine” is telling them to stay and fight, as it’s a NATIONAL war cry.
No it isn’t.
It’s telling Israel to leave. Israel is apatheid.
The protesters are using nonviolent measures to fight Israel.
I guess you think South Africans are forcing Palestinians to fight?
If someone were to suggest that the Jews in Israel be bombed and invited to leave his head would explode.
So Satanyahoo (the resurrection of Satan on Earth) went to Washington to give his apprentice some more evil lessons…….what else should one think would come out of the meetup.
"Oink oink," they squealed, "I know just the greatest spot for a golf course."
By the time this is all over the Palestinians (what's left of them) will have to plead to be allowed to have the "Gaza strip" as their non-militarized "Palestine national home".
ZIONISM AND THE ENDLÖSUNG DER PALÄSTINENSERFRAGE
The zionist project of a reli-etnostate was initiated by Zionists in the 1880s and gained momentum from the 1920s. The project included ethnic cleansing. That has escalated to genocide. Zionists go for the Endlösung der Palästinenserfrage.
Hamas is a diversion of Zionists, to divert attention away from their project.
(Hamas came into existence in 1987, so everything before that has nothing to do with Hamas in the first place).
Hamas is a pretext for Zionists to escalate towards genocide.
(Genocide, btw, does not necessarily take place all at once).
Look at peepsqueek diverting attention away to Hamas! See him pushing that pretext!
Don´t allow him to do that.
I can neither confirm nor deny that I condemn Hamas.
Now, back to the zionist genocide. –
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There is a putrid vapor spreading across North America and the Middle East. It is being promoted by our executive branch and the criminal enterprise in Tel Aviv. The world is sinking into a pit of incomprehensible evil which will destroy western civilization.
Count on it.
Yesterday, the NY Post had an article about an “influencer” who had empathy for Palestinian children. She allegedly prayed for them and also Israeli children.
The monstrous ghouls wanted her investigated by Biondi, because having sympathy for children is a fucking crime in these murderous minds. Their sense of supremacy above all others exceeded any drop of humanity a normal healthy person would have for innocent children.
For a Zionist rag, like the NY Post, the article was ratioed, and with commenters that usually have zero sense of decency. “This is ridiculous” a highly upvoted comment said.
Of course, I can’t find it today.
Comments on Newsmax are no better. I do leave some comments daily, just can't let this total 100% brainwashing stand with some kind of disruption.
They really find themselves to be superior to anyone now. Not much different than when nobodies or crooks all of a sudden had high positions in the Third Reich. Or for that matter our cops during covid.
To be clear, occasionally the paper has some good investigative journalism (usually of Democrats). But when it comes to Israel, spin folds into outright lies, very often. Thanks to the Murdochs.
That's true but the people in the comment section do not like this one bit.
They call it lies and are afraid that Newsmax will abandon them.
It’s not much better on the other side: Democratic Party leaning sites. Both are cults. Both won’t tolerate facts that go against their dogma, or sense of identity.
That's the biggest dilemma. Two cultish parties led by oligarch or who knows what foreign (Israel) entities.
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If
your soul does not scream
you have no soul
If
you are not outraged
then you not human
If
you look the other way
then fuck you
If
you do not do something
you must be an american
If
If
critical mass
is not deep inside
then…
These two "leaders" are using language to cloak themselves as righteous and generous. The people of Gaza can “go wherever they want.” Can they stay wherever they want? No, the real estate importance here takes precedence, showing their root values in materialism and self-interest. So these two pretend to be good, honorable persons, seeking only justice and freedom whereas they are facilitating the most vile cruelty and murder of the population. The ruthless nature of the “cleansing” is justified with sheer horse crap oversimplification and the worst evil we've seen since Auschwitz. Human nature doesn't get any worse than this.
The Devil and his Buddy
Ah look at em
such fine folk
committing such kind deeds
ethnic cleansing
Who will say no
are you gonna do anything
what am i
still here with ya
This aint 1933
i dont think its germany
but a war does wage
inside of every one of us
All and sundry
in this time and age
e'er to wash your dishes
shopping at walmart
Critical Mass
here and now
ain't no two ways about it
tell yourself where do you stand?
Tsk tsk
aint this a shame
better say grace
muffle out the screams
But you know
yes you do
dont me to tell us
what we're supposed to be doing
Set aside your fear
feed the cat and dog
get a babysitter
get your ass moving
You dont need to be
some kind of hero
this aint no marvel comic book
just gotta do what ya kin…
Thomas Massie
@RepThomasMassie
The Golden Rule is my foreign policy.
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