The New York Times reported on Sunday that President Biden had authorized Ukraine’s use of long-range US-provided missiles in strikes on Russian territory, an escalation Moscow has made clear risks nuclear war.
US officials told the paper that Ukraine can now use Army Tactical Missile Systems (ATACMS), which have a range of up to 190 miles, to strike Russian territory. The ATACMS are fired by US-made multiple rocket launch systems, including the HIMARS. Ukraine can only fire the HIMARS with coordinates provided by or confirmed by the US and its allies, meaning the US will now directly support strikes deep inside Russia.
The US officials said the ATACMS will likely initially be used to hit Russian troops fighting against Ukrainian forces in Russia’s Kursk Oblast. Ukraine and the US have also said North Korean troops are deployed in Kursk. The US has said the North Korean troops are engaged in combat, but that hasn’t been confirmed by Moscow.
Earlier this year, President Biden gave Ukraine the greenlight to strike Russian border regions with US-provided weapons, including shorter-range rockets fired by the HIMARS. A few months later, Ukraine launched its invasion of Kursk, and Ukrainian officials began pushing hard for the US to support longer-range strikes inside Russia.
In response to those calls and comments from Western officials supporting the idea, Russian President Vladimir Putin said if NATO supported long-range strikes in Russia, it would put the Western military alliance “at war with Russia.”
Putin then ordered changes to Russia’s nuclear doctrine that lowered the threshold for the use of nuclear weapons. Under the new doctrine, an attack on Russia by a non-nuclear armed state that was supported by a nuclear power will be considered a joint attack.
The Kremlin said the changes to the nuclear doctrine were meant as a message to the West. “This is a message that warns these countries of the consequences should they participate in an attack on our country by various means, not necessarily nuclear,” said Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov.
The US appeared to back down on supporting long-range strikes in Russia, but now the Biden administration is looking to escalate the proxy war as much as possible for its last few months in power. President-elect Donald Trump campaigned on ending the proxy war, and the Biden team and officials in Ukraine fear he will just do that. However, some of Trump’s cabinet picks favor escalation in Ukraine, including his National Security Advisor, Rep. Mike Waltz (R-FL).
In a recent interview with NPR, Waltz was asked how Trump could end the war, and he suggested an escalation of sanctions and supporting long-range strikes in Russia.
“First and foremost, you would enforce the actual energy sanctions on Russia. Russia is essentially a gas station with nukes. Putin is selling more oil and gas now than he did prewar through China and Russia. And you couple that with unleashing our energy, lifting our LNG ban, and his economy and his war machine will dry up very quickly,” Waltz said. “So I think that will get Putin to the table. We have leverage, like taking the handcuffs off of the long-range weapons we provided Ukraine as well. And then, of course, I think we have plenty of leverage with Zelensky to get them to the table.”
Now we know why Joseph Robinette Biden Jr was all smiles last week as he welcomed "Hitler" to the White House. He knew he was going to leave President Trump a major escalation as a gift.
Melania knew better.. We elected the wrong Trump.
Melania is traveling to and fro from NY to Forida. Not planning on spending much time in D.C.
I thought the same damn thing, what an evil MOFU!!!!
It’s been good knowing you all …
This phucking walking corpse.
Biden or Waltz? I didn't know it was nuclear!
II wonder if they will throw Biden out of the fallout bunker on Jan. 20th, 2025?
One can dream.
Not without posing an existential, explicit and actionable, threat to our "national cognitive infrastructure." Dreaming is epistemic, anti-Semitic, stochastic violence, according to all currently valid institutions of acceptable knowledge. You did not read this.
Lock him out…………………………
Locksmith's already booked for Jan 19th.
Charlie Kirk
@charliekirk11
Biden is trying to start World War 3
This is pathological and totally insane.
US weaponry should NOT be used to fire into the interior of Russia!
Imagine if Russia supplied missiles to fire into America!
4:13 PM · Nov 17, 2024
The only insane thing here is Putin invading and annexing Ukrainian territory.
No invasion, no war.
Except for the 8 years of war preceding the invasion (aka SMO) and all the fortifications and listening posts and recruitment of Nazis to prosecute the Russian speaking Ukrainians, the 14,000 dead combined from both sides…
I appreciate how you don't feel suspicious of US government and media accounts because they do feel pretty good in contrast to reality!
And the decades before when not moving NATO eastward meant not moving NATO eastward.
And, not to overlook domestic causes, the four nationalist laws of 21 May 2015, the Education Act of 5 September 2017, the Language Act of 25 April 2019 and the Indigenous Peoples Act of 1 July 2021. All discriminatory against Russians and other ethnicities.
Ugh. That old broken record keeps playing the same FAKE, "Unprovoked, Unjustified–Screech." REPEATED AD-NAUSIUM.
* repeat *
The war in Ukraine was caused by
a) domestic, nationalism: aggressions of ukrainian extreme nationalists including ukrainian Nazis against ethnic russian Ukrainians and other russian-oriented Ukrainians;
b) international, geopolitical: aggressions of the US regime, english and canadian politicians, NATO, political bodies of the EU and european politicians, against Russia.
That was offensive aggression. That had to end.
I am embarrassed that Canada was so much at the forefront of this pro-Ukraine meme. All to sway Ukrainian-Canadian voters in rural Ontario. Sure, lots in the Prairie provinces too but NOGAS about anywhere but Ontario & Quebec come federal election time, and it's all about vote-collecting.
Still amazes me how so many fools in the "free and democratic" West can be made to think that history just suddenly started in February of 2022.
And BTW "Julianne" – The SMO was launched as a pre-emptive move due to the Russians learning that the Biden Regime and the Ukronazis were amassing a major army to overrun the Donbass and potentially Crimea. It's probably the most just example of "R2P" since the concept was first voiced.
And the Russian general public was freaking pissed en masse he'd waited so long by the time Putin finally authorized the SMO.
Hardliners in the Kremlin wanted full "shock and awe". Right up to Kiev.
The Russian giveth sovereignty. The Russians taketh it away.
Heed the word of Putin.
Well, yes, "no invasion no war," along with "no million refugees streaming into Russia, no war." Armed Ukrainian conscripts entered Russia escaping both combat with Orthodox Ukrainians and the Azov Nazi nutters with guns at their backs, back in 2014. Somehow the fact that armed Ukrainians entered Russia first and often is down the Memory Hole. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-hundreds-ukraine-troops-defect-russia-military-drills-border/
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f35f5b5169e5dcf94b79b9c04d87f0e16a0780b9db267eb965cfcd1f3c9c78c8.jpg
From Cuba or Venezuela.
The United States military is about to fire missiles into Russia from Ukraine in a reprise of World War Two, Biden playing Hitler's part, lord knows how many extras playing civilian dead. We are now an official terror state with two Nazzzi proxies in Ukraine and Israel and two Murder, Inc NGOs in ISIS and al Qaeda, deployed like our own GIs used to be to southeast Asia to mass murder civilians by the million.
If we had been there then with the real Hitler, what we would have done is nothing, just like now. Is this "moral injury" or complicity? Are we helpless? Probably. There are no choices and no areas of public information not wholly corrupted in our discourse as official policy. When our lives collapse as they are likely to do in coming years, we can expect our erasure in solace.
I've felt this place was just wrong since childhood.
Isn't it funny how the term Cassandra connotes the same situational awareness as Henny Penny the chicken in US discourse now, when Cassandra's problem was every single freaking thing she predicted came true but no one in corporate oligopoly media believed her? Did an acorn bloody Trump's ear? Did we just go through four years of a president without a brain, a zombie bent on world domination for more brains?
Russia only has several thousand nuclear warheads and the best missile tech on earth to date. Why worry? Would Russia rather destroy a few GPS satellites just in case? Times of war against a declared co-belligerent, don't you know. Not clear on the pertinent laws, but can't Russia now fire missiles into the United States, or at least supply some third nation then go there to "pull the trigger" for them, to defend them?
Whoever said "ignorance is bliss" wasn't lyin'.
"Russia only has several thousand nuclear warheads and the best missile tech on earth to date."
LOL:
Why is that moron smiling, and why is he not at the frontline..? Or is that why he's smiling?
The bigger the smile, the sharper the knife.
There’s this too:
Leaks expose secret British military cell plotting to ‘keep Ukraine fighting’
Leaked files show top UK military figures conspired to carry out the Kerch bridge bombing, covertly train “Gladio”-style stay-behind forces in Ukraine, and groom the British public for a drop in living standards caused by the proxy war against Russia.
https://thegrayzone.com/2024/11/16/uk-plot-keep-ukraine-fighting/
lol!
Write it without the Ukrainian propaganda. The story is: Zelensky has claimed there are North Korean soldiers attacking the Ukrainian invaders in Kursk, and has used this to argue for being able to use ATACMS to attack Russia, with U.S. satellite aid, hoping this will start a direct war between Russia and NATO since he has no other way to win. His claim about North Korean attackers has zero evidence behind it. None. The Ukrainians claim that they have killed North Koreans but have no film or photographs, no drone film, no dead bodies, no uniforms to show. They are lying.
As if Russia with its hundreds of thousands of soldiers would need a few thousand North Koreans WHO DON'T SPEAK RUSSIAN OR ENGLISH. Russia has so many Russian volunteers, about 1,400 more every day, that it's hard to train and equip them all. Why then would they use 10,000 North Korean soldiers? If there are ANY North Koreans near Kursk it is to learn strategy and the use of drones and artillery, through the use of interpreters.
They are likely Buryats native to Siberia, i.e. Russian citizens, according to Moon of Alabama.
It shows the approximate age range of the people incensed about DPRK troops potentially active in Russian Federation territory.
In that, many new or younger drivers learned on automatic transmissions and cannot drive "stick".
Yet everyone whining about the RF possibly inviting DPRK troops to assist them yet FINE with Ukraine recruiting neo-Nazi and/or NATO mercenaries to help THEM, evidently is old enough to have mastered the double-standard.
Is this like starting the "peaceful transfer of power" early? Could this be any more obvious?
Colorless revolution? Transparent continuity of government? The viscid pellicle of afterbirth making America slimy again on its way to Ferlinghetti's "rebirth of wonder"?
You have a way with words, my brother or my sister.
Wise words NA, yes indeed!
Only one thing I’m looking forward to, when we all die because of Biden or Trump, nobody’s gonna be arguing: “UNPROVOKED, UNJUSTIFIED!!!”
Ukraine and the US are not stupid. they both know that if they fire the first shot at Russia then they will be deemed the bad-guy.
That remains to be seen. So far, they've been saying Russia did it and the West has believed them.
Biden validated peace advocates opposition to Harris. Anathema upon him.
He took down his party with the Harris endorsement and now he wants to take us all down with him in s Third World War.
Evil nasty old bugger!
In fairness Biden dragged the Dems down with 45 years of being Joe Biden in public.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/india-announces-historic-long-range-hypersonic-missile-test-flight
Obviously, Biden is a sick puppy.
A complete Horse's ass to the bitter end.
"“So I think that will get Putin to the table. "
Hello. Walz. Anybody there????
Putin WAS at the table in 2022. If you remember (I doubt it), the Biden administration and Boris shut down the possibility of peace.
Didn't Putin just talk to Germany's Scholz, about ending this war? So again, it is the USA and the Zionist Zelensky, refusing to even try stopping this war. Biden is deranged just like Zelensky and Congress refuses to stop this madness.
The American experiment is dead, it's shade is breathing a cold wind all over the landscape with the promise of an historic annihilation of species.
Can you believe we find ourselves posting and/or up-voting such hideous sentiments on the regular? US government (and the parasitical blob wrapped around its face) is a Mr Burns Krusty the Klown doll stuck on "evil."
"They's yer problem right there – somebody set this Foreign Policy to 'Evil'."
So true. 🙁
Biden was the pliable stooge they installed in the highly irregular "Covid election" of 2020.
Well, if you believe Scott Ritter, we should all be dead now… That's what he said the last Friday this was considered – that we all "dodged a bullet" and we should have died that weekend.
Somehow I'm still posting this…
Which means Ritter was full of his usual bombastic bullshit…
What Putin actually said was that Russia would respond appropriately based on the threat that was actually presented.
A handful of ATACMS and NATO missiles is not going to precipitate WWIII.
What it will do is enable Putin to escalate in Ukraine and elsewhere to stick it to the West, such as in Syria and Iran.
As I commented a few minutes ago in a note on Substack, Biden and the neocons are playing poker – but they can't read their opponent, so they keep losing – while Putin is playing chess, or perhaps the Japanese game of go.
Scott Ritter knows exactly what he is talking about, be careful about to quick of a response.
Ritter is right about many things, I agree. But he's wrong about this because he tends to be hyperbolic about things. Lately he's been grabbing things and running way past the evidence just to get Youtube views.
He's wrong about Iran having a nuclear weapon and he's wrong about this.
I wouldn't underestimate the allure of a drop dead gorgeous sunk costs fallacy ensorcelling the blob with its own warm jets of hyperbolic supremacy; surly the long game be ours? Iran and Syria? Interesting point!
The thing is that climbing the escalation ladder tends to lead to unpredictable consequences. The thing about unpredictable consequences is that they are hard to predict.
However feeble minded one might be if you manage to maintain the most tenuous attachement to sanity you don't gamble with nuclear armageddon. That can only be the result of a genuine mental illness, in need of urgent medical attention. Such a person should not be allowed to drive, be outside the house without supervision, or in possession of metal cutlery. It might be necessary as safety measure to sedate said patient and locked in a white padded cell in order to administer treatment. But whatever the best solution to that psychiatric emergency is, such a person should not be in a position where they get to play nuclear poker.
Donald Trump Jr.
@DonaldJTrumpJr
The Military Industrial Complex seems to want to make sure they get World War 3 going before my father has a chance to create peace and save lives.
Gotta lock in those $Trillions.
Life be damned!!! Imbeciles!
unusual_whales
@unusual_whales
7h
President Biden has authorized the first use of U.S.-supplied long-range missiles by Ukraine for strikes inside Russia, per NYT
3:17 PM · Nov 17, 2024
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Does Don Jr. know daddy's pick for National Security Advisor agrees with Biden?
How many times was WWIII supposed to happen in the last 3 years? I have lost count lol
Exactly. That’s why we have a NEW President.
They're gambling that they have a two month window where Biden can play "Bad Cop" to Trump's "Good Cop" with President Putin. What could go wrong? I mean besides World War III breaking out and nuclear weapons being exchanged.
I’m certain Russia will be happy to send a few “thank you notes “, upon arrival.. I meant to say nukes…
I think I am going to treat myself to a nice Black Russian, made with cheap, non Russian Vodka.
;-/
If we could give separate scores for form and content, I'd give you a 10 for form! Classic comedic construct done perfectly.
Russia should've kept his army within its borders.
If they want to fire Nukes first, that's their call.
The war started when RUSSIA invaded Ukraine.
WW3 will start when RUSSIA fires the first Nuke.
Do not blame the war on the recipient of hostile actions.
The main effort for peace should be directed at Russia.
Yes … of course all this would be moot if WE had kept OUR army within our borders, as a constitutional republic should … but there you go.
What a radical idea! Using the armed forces of the USA to defend the country rather than to meddle in other countries affairs!
Very radical. However, it is so much more fun to blast countries that cannot defend themselves. Then occupy that country forever, flouting the laws of those countries.
If we had kept our promises.
The war started when the US orchestrated a coup removing a democratically elected government not to its liking.
Or perhaps the war started when the US began to move an adversarial military alliance to Russia’s borders.
Or maybe the war started when the US decided to try for global hegemony befitting its role as an empire.
Maybe you should concentrate on waging your own war against fantasy before showing up with blood soaked imperial nonsense.
Your screen name operates on so many levels in so many ways, it's instantly gratifying on sight, like punching an artesian well in my own head. Thank you for making me laugh out loud!
Nope. The war started in 2014 when the US deep state led by Victoria Nuland arranged a coup. THAT'S what started this mess.
The plotting way before. This quote from 2014:
https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2022/what-george-soros-said-about-ukraine-in-a-2014-cnn-interview/
Ah, ah, ah, you are leaving out the MIC in this U.S. of Amnesia. War is a racket, you know.
"Russia should've kept his army within its borders."
What Russia should have done is a judgment based on the facts. That is possible only if the facts are given, so after they have all been collected, explained, made clear etc.
But as you see in these comments, people are still putting forward several facts, and there are many, many more; and you have not made clear that you grasp them all.
So I challenge that you are in a position to make a judgment on what Russia should have done.
Twice Russia declined the wished of the Ukrainians in Donbas to absorb those territories into Russia.
Russia acted only after the Kiev armies formed at the borders of the Donbas for a massive attack.
You're becoming a bigger liar than Major Burnsie.
The war could have been avoided entirely, had Zelensky kept his penis in his pants. He was supposed to be the peace president but then he got a hard-on for invading the Donbas autonomous territories. Now he's got a lot of penance to do.
Yeah, it's so much easier to go by a simple-minded explanation, ignoring historical facts, logical cause-and-effect reasoning, and geared toward traditional Cold War hangover mythology. It hurts to think too much, right?
Too bad they won't let us be friends with Russians anymore.
One of the amusing idiocies of the warmongers in the US has been the public dumping down the sewer of American-made vodka marketed with fake Russian brand names. "Brilliant!"
Black Russians ? Azov goons hate THOSE the most ! They'd rather you drink a 'True Ukrainia ' :
1 oz white British Gin
1 oz white American wine
1 piece of bacon (to ensure the mix is neither kosher nor halal).
Drink those until you're sure you're invincible.
And here I thought Trump was going to try to fix the broken fence. Biden just dismantled the whole yard.
"Putin has made clear that US-supported long-range strikes in Russia would risk nuclear war."
Any bad news for the warmonger Putin risks nuclear war.
But it's ok, the West has nuclear weapons too, so go ahead Putin, FAFO.
To be clear, you are saying let’s risk nuclear war so that the Russian near-abroad is part of nato, yes?
The samson option by arm chair morons.
You say Masada, while I say Guyana. A narrative by any other subterfuge would kill just as many.
Some on MoA now think this story is bluffing PR or trying to get Russia to act.
What do you think?
I think racial hatreds across international boundaries are an achievement of industrial brain washing tantamount to strip mining with pressurized water. Whenever powerful states want their public to stand up and mass murder without thinking, they say "Manchuria, Manchuria, Manchuria" throughout all media until the emergency is resolved.
What do you think this is?
And now I realize I didn't finish my thought. To get Europe viscerally involved it's always best to invoke racist tropes. Same with the US right and neocons, all of whom are the audience, I think.
They were questioning the missile story, overall.
Such an incisive understanding of the history of detente and weapons control, you've got there. Which movies were the most salient to your analysis?
Harold and Kumar Go to Ukraine (never made).
lol.
NAFO, you mean.
"the warmonger Putin" – Where did you get that idea?
RAND writes in Russian Grand Strategy (2021):
“nor do Russian strategic documents express a plan to recreate the Soviet Union; there are no mentions of imperialist ambitions or doctrinal directives for using military force to achieve dominance over neighbors” (p.29)
Still, indeed, Russia did invade Ukraine. Might there have been other motives for that than the profound explanation of 'Putin being a warmonger'?
RTP for the Russian speaking Ukrainians in Donbas.
The mean spirited, destructive Zionist speaks for all the mean spirited, destructive Zionists.
Looks like the deal is to commit any and all outrageous and reckless acts as a means to “end the war”. Having concluded that Russia is not a good candidate for breaking Russia-China alliance, the plan has shifted to force Russia into becoming “reasonable”. And threatening to offer sweet deals/threats to China and India — presumably to keep them all in edge and suspicious of each other. This war in Ukraine may indeed end, but not according to Trump’s plan.
Trump respects power and wealth. And goes after the weak. This is why calculus can change in Ukraine. Trump is not the only one with a plan. A dangerous two and half months coming.
Please let's take a moment to savor the intense Sinophobia martial-ed by the Biden administration in service to current and future forever warfare forever everywhere. If there's one thing we westerners in power generally agree on, it's the necessity to exterminate foreign people with those funny eyes, like way back in the 20th.
Let's hit China running, like the dogs they once called us!!!
From Bernard at Moon of Alabama, 5 November post:
You will find that all cultures, including that of the Chinese, have some condescending or derogatory term for outsiders and foreigners. Seems to be a pitiable point of human life. But All human groups do it, to further their own self-identification and echo chambers. Helps with governmental managing of crises.
Waltz is just another AZZHOLE NeoCon. When the bombs start falling on the USA Waltz best crawl into a hole because he will be a wanted man by the survivors, along with so many other Ghouls.
Bombs from where? Russia won't be nuking anyone. It is all bluster.
What's the difference between a totalitarian regime and democracy,.. one pretends that the people have a say. While the other is more truthful.
God's infinite wisdom will show Nazi Germany to be more trustworthy than America.
I look forward to seeing atomic powered mushroom clouds from my kitchen window.
My feeling for America this morning is pure hatred.
Not America… Rather US…!
Yes; North America north of the Rio Grand.
But we too live there. Maybe Tel Aviv would be a nice target?
You have lots of company, but anger is not a rational guide, a mushroom cloud is radioactive, we know that too. But we can wish.
Russia should detonate a small nuke near US coast to wake up the idiots in DC…!
Crikey netman! WE are antiwar, yeah or nay?!
That would be an antiwar measure…! That’s the only way….! Diplomacy is dead…!
“Let it be, let it be, let it be, let is be…. Whisper words of wisdom, let it be”…
That could be the end of human kind, don't forget, the other side is evil and demented.
But, maybe with the end of humankind, the planet could have a chance to survive.
The height of cynicism Lysis…
All sides seem evil in the midst of such wars…
Donna, up to a point, ordinary people are being brainwashed, look at western so-called free MSM, internationally in the west, it is a one track media, it tells shows the people are being manipulated and blindfolded, little Israel has been turned into a farm of beastly soulless human animals, the same is true for all so-called value western democracies. War criminals do not consult the people, the rulers are ruthless, brutal killers, there is no one with honor left, despicable. Trump the monster will continue the hell the Biden monster will leave behind, we are watching the death of the US hegemon.
That may well be Lysistrata!
If only both sides had some common sense, how does one deal with the demented people on the other side?
I think dementia and vindictiveness and ambition come together by old Joe Biden. He could have left office with some personal dignity like a man, see Al Gore.
Donna, there comes a point even anti-war people like us have to admit they have to fight back if they and their children want to survive.
You are always, wonderfully direct good Lysis!
Maybe to bomb the Pentagon would be more impressive to the men and women in uniform and the people in the WH and on the hill.
I think we now have proof #46 has truly lost all his marbles.
Snarling and rolling his eyeballs like an angry pit bull on his way out of the office . . . He certainly cannot give up his views of Putin and the conflict at this point.
So this decision came shortly after Biden and Trump sat down for two hours behind closed doors. It is hardly plausible this decision hasn't been a subject of that talk, since ending the Ukraine war is a large part of the basis on which Trump was elected. That promise is now far less likely to be kept.
So, the question is whether Trump betrayed the American people before even his first day in office or whether Biden stabbed Trump in the back and defied the will of the American people in the same act.
It doesn't alter anything to the outcome of the Ukrainian war, it is just one item added to the list of dirt dumb things that don't work and are guaranteed to lead to the kind of "bad peace" that war oracle Johnson recently prophesied about. Possibly much worse than that particular idiot can hold in the empty cavity between his ears.
A nuclear war is not winnable!
A multipolar world is necessary. Singularity does not work nor apply…
Everyone is officially on notice. Peace is essential for ALL of humankind!…
Seriously, if you and your family were cruising(Yes, in a spaceship) around on a site seeing sunday drive in our part of the milky way, and your flew by our little paradise in the black sky, and you started to observe and listen to the 'image of the god' species 'doing its thing' what would you do?
a) land and stop in with a chat with members of this most cool and amazing being?
b) Land into the middle of one of their many many conflicts to discuss the conflict? Maybe offer a little advice and kindness?
c) Lock the doors, tell the kids and wife to duck and get the hell out of the there as fast as possible leaving no trail or sign that you were ever there
d) Bomb the f out the them
Their plan is to escalate to deescalate. Not very smart.
What will this provoke?
Certainly the Russians will do something.
Just as certainly, the whole of Team Biden in the Administration and mainstream media will declare it is the "unprovoked" action of an evil Putin.
Biden and the war planners want Russia to kill some American soldiers. Dead soldiers will trigger popular consent for escalation using more American assets in Ukraine.
Good, sound logic The Kid!
https://www.eurasiantimes.com/russias-nuclear-powered-missile-cruiser-get/
This decision cannot be found anywhere on any of the so-called progressive internet sites. It seems to be too embarrassing for these neocons. And they wonder why Harris lost the election? It was the never ending cowardly trickiness of these de-fanged lobsters which gave Trump his big win.
Healthy cynicism!
I like my lobster smothered in butter with lemon on the side!
I wonder what Russia’s potential response will be!!!
https://www.presstv.ir/Live
Interesting news coverage this morning on Press TV!
As per usual. Great job!
All sides of the bread are buttered now…!
“Russia is essentially a gas station with nukes." Hard to believe this comes from the mouth of a current National Security Advisor. Sounds like something that might have been heard in the cold war era.
Russia does not just have oil. It has the full complement of valuable mining ores (including rare heavy metals) It has gas – natural and liquefied. It has the full complement of primary products from timber, dairy products, to fruits, wheat, barley, rice and corn. Russia has a space station. Russia aids US astronauts to work aboard the space station.
Worth remembering Russia put the first man into space. Russian mathematicians are largely responsible for the IT revolution in finance. A Russian helped devise Google. Russia invented the helicopter. Russia has hypersonic missiles (nuclear, thermobaric and conventional war heads). The Russian economy has proved surprisingly flexible in the face of continued, orchestrated economic sanctions. That says something about Russia's grasp of economics, range of exports. Russia has a lot of smart people.
Mr Waltz would struggle to find employment there.
You hit that nail squarely on the head and well said!
“Russia is essentially a gas station with nukes." was originally uttered by insane John McCain.
Insane McCain's hatred of Russia lead him to make deals with terrorists.
Inane and insane CTscan!
Mr. Walz would likely fill the same role in Russia – a yes man who bends over on que.
The "gas station with nukes" is a tried (but not true) Neoconservative trope. Leaves no doubt about the big influence of that group on the incoming administration. Belies the MAGA rhetoric that supposedly is in opposition to them.
If one reads the history of Russia, they will see clearly Russia is a nation of survivors, and this time, as in the past, they will survive. The West is crazy to start a war with Russia, but sanity is at a premium in the govs. of the West.
Well said!
Bye-Done gives the green light! Lol
But let us not forget some folks can fight back!!!
An extinction level event by mad men! FAFO!
Daniel Davis confuses short-range missiles with the long-range missiles.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short-range_ballistic_missile
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATACMS
Good now putin can give houties better anti ship weapons
https://sputnikglobe.com/20241116/trump-team-to-write-off-project-ukraine-as-sunk-cost—analyst—1120901066.html
Many would surmise that business investments by Blackrock, Monsanto, Conagra, et al. will eventually be legally nullified by a new government and Russian business interests.
Seriously – why IS there such a long delay between Election Day and Inauguration Day if not to permit outgoing administrations to pardon friends and poison all sorts of wells for the President-Elect ??? What madness.
Clean, clear and concise Uncle S.!
Attention down voter BB, please say why, when you down vote, so, we can understand why. I would also say that to folks who agree, as it keeps the conversation going…
Thanks for the down vote BB. ;-}
Before this election, it was designed to make a peaceful transfer of power and the outgoing POTUS and the incoming POTUS. I don't expect any change, do you?
Nope.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/cac301f996447906cdab09dec8318204feb018bc92c93435424ac45a482dd1dd.png
Of all the myriad of incredible possibilities and wonderful things he could do as a lamer and solidify his name in the history books like he so(they all do) desperately wants, he decides to take us to war? egads….
Can i go home now?
The ship is nigh…sigh.lol
;-}
Uber Hugs deganawida
Well gee, golly, like we are all not all burned out,fried, at our wits end,going crazy, etc. And we get this? This is the good side? Breaks my heart when this happened,the last straw. What an opportunity this dotard had to show what he is( yea yea) and yet is this not what makes us human? i mean the good human who does an epiphany and does a great deed when chips are done and its the last act? i have tears, and i gotta stop for now…sorry
Nothing for you to be sorry about! We are all in this together and that is our strength!
truer words have never been spoken…
Dementia Joe doing his best to keep the MIC humming,
wonder what they paid Joey for this parting gift?
Biden's idea of a "smooth transition"?
Almost makes me miss The Donald.
What is the point of defending only the arrows and not the bows that shoot the arrows? Of course, the internationally recognised ‘law of war’ includes attacking the launching bases of missiles or drones as a justified, proportionate defence, a military necessity. I note hysterical comments in this thread.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2nrlq1840o How long-range missiles striking Russia could affect Ukraine war
https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/ihl-treaties/att-2013 Arms Trade Treaty Article 7
https://www.genevacall.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/The-Law-of-Armed-Conflict.pdf
https://guide-humanitarian-law.org/content/article/3/military-necessity/
Good info. To have BB!
This is the Democrat Party's SAMPSON OPTION they picked up from Israel. After years of dividing American's down racial, ethnic and class lines, the sore losers this time, instead of starting riots, ('People will be people' –Pelosi) must want to utterly destroy the country they are supposed to protect. They should know that people didn't vote FOR Trump as much as they voted AGAINST Harris with all the Dems. bizarre policies the vast majority of voters rejected. The Dems. have taken DIRTY POLITICS to the point of starting WWIII because they are BUTT HURT. I'm no Trump fan, and I doubt there will be much change during his administration as indicated by his own hawks and extremists he's appointing to his cabinet. Meet the new puppet, same as the other puppets? If the past and present is any indication of the future, well. . .?
It was the West's aggression from the start that created this war. Firstly, in 2014 the West carried out a military coup which forcibly overthrew Ukraine's parliament using NeoNAZI's for their military force. Yet the West's MSM denies this even though The commander of the far-right-linked Maidan company, who along with several members of his company, publicly admitted in the media interviews shooting the police from the Music Conservatory and was filmed along with snipers from his company in the Hotel Ukraina during the massacre of the pro-testers, was not even interrogated by the GPU. He threatened from the Maidan stage to use weapons to overthrow Yanukovych by blaming him for the Maidan massacre and also admitted that his company forced members of the Ukrai- nian parliament to participate in the votes to dismiss Yanukovych and his government from power and to elect the Maidan opposition leaders in their place . Even though Nuland bragged about spending $5 billion to bring this about Even though for the march that violently overthrew the government were a mere roughly 20,000 armed with Makarov pistols, Kalashnikov rifles, hunting rifles, bullet proof vests army helmets, moltov cocktails, and metal barricades who initiated the violence and overthrew the police , who represented a minority of the population for only 40-45% of the population actually supported joining the EU at the time . Moreover, the takeover of oblasts administrative buildings by protesters was viewed quite negatively with polling showing 60% against the takeover, and only 32% in favor . Thus, this was not a popular revolution as the West made falsely it out to be. And, it is very important to not forget the use of killing protesters by the US backed Svoboda deputies to blame it on Yanukovich (of whom Nuland would stand with in Maidan Square later) from Hotel Ukraina and other buildings they controlled in order to false flag an escalation of violence. The key issue here is that 1000's of hours of video were recorded and time synchronized in addition to and 1000's of hours of testimony in a study that clearly proves that without any doubt at all that the ultra-right snipers killed the protesters knowingly and intentionally. This was a coup carried out principally by C14 (The 14 in C14 stands for "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children." ), with its leader Yevhen Karas openly calling for the expulsion of ethnic Jews and Russians from Ukrainian territory in his interview with BBC NewsNight , whose party youth leader distributed Nazi propaganda written by Joseph Goebbels translated into Ukrainian in the summer of 2013 .
Thus, certainly were there ever a case for the right of a peoples to hold a referendum and secede, the Donbas had every right to secede whether or not the NATO dominated UN recognized it or not. What part is not understood regarding the right for a peoples who have been historically slaughtered by NAZI's, that when their country was overthrown by NAZI's that it gives them the right under international law to hold a democratic referendum to secede and that the host country and the West committed the war crime of aggression when they attacked the Donbas?
Counterstatement:
Financial support does not mean organizing.
I do not deny the activities of the neo-fascists.
https://library.oapen.org/handle/20.500.12657/93252 The Maidan Massacre in Ukraine
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/356691143_The_Maidan_Massacre_in_Ukraine_Revelations_from_Trials_and_Investigation
https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/explainers/understanding-ukraines-euromaidan-protests
https://www.nonviolent-conflict.org/orange-revolution-english/
According to RT, https://www.rt.com
Russia is issuing a warning to the West, which means US:
Longe Range Missile Warning…
Time to Hit the bunkers yet?!
Might have expected this foolish move from Trump but did not think we’d have to be as concerned about Biden. It appears that I/we are wrong. Big Red head Lines on Drudge Report.
https://www.drudgereport.com
WW III is on the doorstep. Never thought to see this under this admin.
I will be smoking some good weed and drinking my favorite drink:
A Black Russian.
Sigh………………..
Fatal, the author of this propagandistic article confuses short-range missiles with long-range missiles.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short-range_ballistic_missile
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATACMS