Tensions between Israel and Hezbollah are escalating substantially, with scores of people killed in Lebanon in the past week. Israel’s far-right government is stepping up the rhetoric and talking war.
Diaspora Minister Amichai Chikli is the latest voicing pro-war rhetoric, declaring overnight in comments on X.com that Lebanon does not, in his opinion, fit the definition of a state, and that this gives Israel every right to invade and seize southern Lebanon.
Chikli said that southern Lebanon is essentially under the control of “a hostile Shi’ite population.” He added that he believes neither Syria nor Iran counts as states, and so don’t merit protection for their status as sovereign nations.
Israel is generally not overly concerned about violations of sovereignty through its military actions, but what Chikli is advocating is overt military action against other nations in the region.
Chikli was one of several government ministers who recently urged the Israeli government to cut off all access to humanitarian aid to northern Gaza, and argued that the military should conduct operations to “cleanse” the region. The proposal prescribed similar cleansings of other areas.
Meanwhile, the US has been warning Israel against further escalation, cautioning that it is not in Israel’s interest to see regional tensions grow, adding that there needs to be to space to engage in diplomacy.
This is another example of the Israelis doing what the Israelis always do – steal land.
This is another example of the Israelis doing what the Israelis always do – take steps needed to protect themself.
I really enjoy your company Tim, seriously, I do. I do wish, however, that you could widen your view to see the larger view, with regard to the entire dynamics of the situation. That is the way to peace…
OK. I'm game. Tell me what the wider view is? Tell me what you would in your wider view of the world when Gaza attacks Israel on Oct 7 and Hezbollah decides to fire on you to tied down assets defending North of Israel? What would you do if you were Israel?
Peaceful Coexistence is the way to go, truly. No one can live under occupation.
Peaceful co-existence is not part of zionist ideology.
Kind of a huge problem, that.
Amusing that the Israelites used to use their Hebrew war-god Ihovah (in Latin, 'Jehovah' begins with an "i") to do the heavy lifting and war-winning (except against armies using iron chariots).
Now they invoke the "false god" United States to rain upon them ammunition and intel and shiny weaponry.
The Moses that never existed, would be grinding his teeth over this. "Do I have to lug a f**king 4TH set of Commandments down a damned mountain ??"
What you call "Gaza attacks on Israel on October 7th", the rest of us would call "Palestinians break out of their open-air concentration camp". And the facts are on my side, because the geography of walls, fences, and checkpoints confirms the apartheid nature of Israeli policy toward Palestinians since the initial Nakba in 1948. That's right: more than 75 years of Zionist oppression against the indigenous population.
If I were Israel, and based on the Jewish idea of forgiveness, I would start identifying each and every victim of Israel's occupation and inviting the opportunity to meet, confess my aggression, and ask forgiveness. That is the proper thing to do, if you are an observant Jew in Israel.
Can I answer ?
On Oct 6th (of 1980) I would have figured out that what I (the State of Israel) was doing to Palestinians, was terrible and unworthy of the kindness and decency of our Nation.
THEN I'd have conducted my State in such a way to peacefully and constructively engaged with ALL my neighbouring Countries to make the best of our mutual post-WW2 bad situations.
Come Oct 7, 2023, in my timeline the worst thing to happen would be Real Tel Aviv losing 4-2 to Gaza City United in a futbol Friendly in front of a mix of 58,000 Israelis and Palestinians. Can't blame RTA; Gazz United has Messi and he went 2 goals, 2 assists on the match.
You once again start history on Oct 7th. What's the point of conversing with you?
Hezbollah decides to fire on you to tied down assets defending North of Israel?
And you say I lack intelligence.
I'll answer for him. "No ! My view is the Only True Correct Opinion ™ and to consider any other Of Course Totally False point of view is to immediately contaminate my previous bodily fluids with the fluoridation of Lies and Antisemitism that the people whose opinion I have mindlessly adopted as my religion, would not permit me to do."
Donna, you're assuming he even WANTS peace, or at least defines it the way you (and most of us) do.
It's about the greater Israel agenda which So. Lebanon is part of. See map and info here: See map here: https://www.jagranjosh.com/general-knowledge/what-is-greater-israel-why-is-the-idea-not-acceptable-to-the-muslim-community-1621507466-1
He meant to say Israel protects itself, as it takes more land, builds more illegal settlements and kills anyone who stands in their way.
Yes. Major Burns is the sort who doesn't get how "territory" works.
He thinks that (invading to create a "buffer zone" between you and "the enemy", and then settling and populating that buffer zone, then needing a newer buffer zone deeper into "enemy territory" to protect people now living in the old buffer zone) is anything but an endless cycle of conquest and stupidity.
… protect themselves from enemies they created out of their neighbours by the way they acted towards their neighbours.
Was the State of Israel, and NATO, created in the same year ? They seem to think alike. Expand, act surprised when your expansion is viewed as a threat, threaten those apprehensive of you, expand some more.
The psychopath once again rears his ugly racist head to defend war criminals.
What a a POS!
It’s how Rome expanded at times.
It’s how Rome expanded at times.
Lebanon chose to fire on Israel. Israel posed no threat to Lebanon in the fall of 2023. If Lebanon continues the attack than Israel should clear out Southern Lebanon and turn it into the next Golan Heights. Lebanon choice. Stop firing at Israel and it will not happen.
First the IDF needs to retake that 50km wide no-go zone south of the Lebanese border.
Yep, and the best way to do that is to take a chunk out of Lebanon and make it a no go zone for Hezbollah.
First let’s see if the IDF can retake those 50km.
Your strategy doesn't work.
Pushing your borders into someone else's country (whether "buffer zone" or "settler annex") only creates the need for a NEW buffer zone. Which you'll annex and settle, meaning you need a new NEW buffer zone…
Draw a line of a m.f.-ing map agreeable to you both. Both sides can do ANYTHING they want on their side, but NONE of it can cross that line.
Haven't you never had neighbours or a fence, Major ?
More stupidity. It's like you really hate Israel since you keep promoting ways to make their future be a constant battle of fighting off attacks.
Tell you what, Major Burns. Fun thought experiment for you to answer in front of all of us, regarding the ASI and Lebanon :
"Despite serious misgivings, the Universe decides to grant you, Timothy J. Burns, 'God Mode' powers for one purpose :
"Timothy – you have the power to instantly, permanently, irrevocably determine a new, eternal, unchangeable border between the countries of Lebanon and Israel.
"You may grant as much or as little territory to either country, as you desire. You can give all of Lebanon to Israel as territory, or all of Israel into Lebanese territory.
"BUT, be aware…
"After deciding, Timothy, you will vanish, and reappear and live your entire life as either a Lebanese or an Israeli – a citizen living from birth to death under your decision. Your nationality will be chosen at random so you have NO way of knowing how your God Mode decision will benefit or curse your reincarnated life.
"So. Decide. How do you draw the border, not knowing if or how it'll affect you personally ?"
Stop the genocide and the firing stops.
As I have said a few times, the south will be seized and become part of the greater Israel agenda.
The concept of a “Greater Israel'', according to the founding father of Zionism Theodore Herzl, is a State stretching “from the Brook of Egypt to the Euphrates.” Thus it would have included: The historic Palestine South Lebanon up to Sidon and the Litani River Syria’s Golan Heights, Hauran Plain and Deraa Hejaz Railway from Deraa to Amman, Jordan as well as the Gulf of Aqaba. This implies that Greater Israel is the inclusion of Palestine in Israel. Many historians and International Relations watchers state that this is the reason Israel is slowly and strategically grabbing more and more land from its neighbours, specially Palestine. While many other Zionists also say that Greater Israel included the land from the Nile in the West to the Euphrates in the East, comprising Palestine, Lebanon, Western Syria and Southern Turkey. See map here: https://www.jagranjosh.com/general-knowledge/what-is-greater-israel-why-is-the-idea-not-acceptable-to-the-muslim-community-1621507466-1
What is Chikli actual job besides ranting…?! Bringing Israelis living outside Israel back to Israel…!? The opposite is happening which means he is doing a shitty job…! The Israelis are moving out of Israel as they have been for the past several decades now just because of its atrocities towards Palestinians and its neighbors…!
Diaspora Minister Amichai 'Michael' Chikli(s) channels his inner conquistador Oprah Winfrey :
"And SYRIA's not a State ! And EGYPT's not a State ! And the KINGDOM OF SAUDI ARABIA's not a State ! And…"
Israel is the "ILLEGAL STATE" and should be flattened and their ILLEGAL Occupiers removed, sent back to NY, FL, Europe. There is only ONE Monster that needs to be taken down and that is Israel. Our Congress has become impotent, unable to produce anything of value when it comes to Americans and the Human Race. Congress is a Body of War Criminals, just licking up the blood like the Zionist Israelis. We can only hope Citizens of the World are paying attention and continue protesting in the streets, letting their Leaders know, STOP the WAR!
Truly well spoken!
70% of Israeli Jews are native Palestinians, not native New Yorkers, Floridians, or Europeans. Where are they supposed to to?
70% of Israeli Jews are native Palestinians, not native New Yorkers, Floridians, or Europeans. Where are they supposed to to?
70% of Israeli Jews are native Palestinians, not native New Yorkers, Floridians, or Europeans. Where are they supposed to go?
Land is for Palestinians and it doesn’t matter what Religion they are, it’s always been that way. They need to proof they are Palestinians by blood, not just offspring of Zionist who came from Europe during Britain’s dumping of them in Palestine.
If they’re born in Palestine, they’re by definition Palestinians.
And it’s not about religion, it’s about ethnicity. Apparently you’re just as much of an ethno-nationalist as any Zionist.
Ok, try telling an Israeli that they're "Palestinians". 🙂 After all, many will parrot to you that there's no such thing as a "Palestinian", it's a made-up term, didn't you know? 😉
Actually, prior to the 20th century, the word “Palestinian” referred exclusively to Jews born in Palestine. The Egyptian, Syrian, Lebanese, etc. tenant farmers working for absentee Ottoman landlords didn’t start developing a “Palestinian” national identity until after the Ottoman empire collapsed.
Israeli Diarrhea Minister intones in B-flat minor.
Said the Minister : "Bombs away. B Flat, minors. You too, those over 18 years of age."
Sounds like Israel has a bad case of Manifest Destiny. Just like its big daddy, USA. For which the prognosis is also poor.
Touché ole!
This is nothing new. The plan for a "Greater Israel" has been underway for decades.
Thanks for having made me aware of this, Carlton.
See greater Israel map and info here: https://www.jagranjosh.com/general-knowledge/what-is-greater-israel-why-is-the-idea-not-acceptable-to-the-muslim-community-1621507466-1
Um, even losing Jerusalem is intolerable to Muslims. This can’t endure. But it’s amazing to watch.
Where will all these Arabs be sent?
Probably to the USA. That’s part of the plan. Send them as refugees. Sending people who hate America for destroying their homes, families and lives will certainly cause more chaos in the homeland. Chaos is the future and Wash.’s. agenda to destabilize society and further erode our freedoms guaranteed under the Constitution. Stands to reason, doesn’t it? But, I hope I’m wrong.
Trump is ahead, and he wouldn’t accept them here. Many Muslim states have carrying capacity limits. So, they’re just unwanted. It’d be tough telling a young child that his home has been taken, and no one in the world wants him…
But we got El Salvador’s heroic president (Palestinian and probably Muslim) that way. Suffering builds character… in some cases.
But, not in this case. It will cause revenge. People with nothing left to lose will lash out at their enemies.
There’s a bit of justice in it. Nationalists (whites) in both Europe and the US cheer on attacking Muslims and ruining Latin states. Then, the refugees from their attacks move there, having no where else.
We also get “good allies” like the child raping Afghans who had to flee the Taliban. We’ve likely taken in radical Sunni “allies,” etc. Radical Ukrainian nationalists.
I’ve told people for years that “we” shouldn’t support “their” wars; we then get blamed for the consequences. The result is pretty good. Trump is a bit more antiwar. If I’ve accomplished anything, maybe I had that impact, among probably many bad things too. But maybe I was a butterfly that flapped its wings.
All ‘whites’ are guilty and deserve revenge? Racist much? There’s no such thing as collective and inherited blame. All Americans would be guilty using your logic. There’s many blacks, browns and yellows, along with whites in the gov. and US military. It’s the STATE that causes all the trouble in the world and it has always been that way. Get a clue.
Well, I’m harder on whites, because I’m white. I want to be on the good team.
One time GK Chesterton remarked that a group tended to do bad things while pretending to be English, that it would be better to give them a tiny state to publicly and clearly act as they will, and not as if English. England was different then.
Most people, by far, just want to live their lives in peace and get along with each other. Look to the state/regime for dividing people down every line they can think of. See quotes from Nietzsche re. the ‘state.’
I just like having groups. “Man is a social being.” I just always wanted my group to be the good guys.
The trend, globally, is towards individualism and a global state.
Aristotle I think mentions how people will divide themselves over a mere stream or any other excuse. Someone wrote that anyway. Maybe life hasn’t made sense since the Stone Age. We had groups then.
A problem with nation states is the nation tends to be blamed.
Every population is made of groups and individuals. There’s always a struggle over which get their way.
Every politician flip flops when in office and it’s business as usual because money directs all policy in a republic.
A Neoconservative (neo Trotskyist) dream, to create instability everywhere and therefore permanent strife.
Even the Trotskyites at wsws.org are antiwar. Good articles up to the little wrap up about workers uniting at the end of most articles.
I guess the view is it’s now or never, take what you can before losing the US.
It is sickening to see what America has done around the world. Lindsey Graham is the most despicable POS with Biden and Blinken close behind.
Great picture by the way… You can read so many words in that picture.
As I have said a few times, the south will be seized and become part of the greater Israel agenda.
The concept of a “Greater Israel'', according to the founding father of Zionism Theodore Herzl, is a Jewish State stretching “from the Brook of Egypt to the Euphrates.” Thus it would have included: The historic Palestine South Lebanon up to Sidon and the Litani River Syria’s Golan Heights, Hauran Plain and Deraa Hejaz Railway from Deraa to Amman, Jordan as well as the Gulf of Aqaba. This implies that Greater Israel is the inclusion of Palestine in Israel. Many historians and International Relations watchers state that this is the reason Israel is slowly and strategically grabbing more and more land from its neighbours, specially Palestine. While many other Zionists also say that Greater Israel included the land from the Nile in the West to the Euphrates in the East, comprising Palestine, Lebanon, Western Syria and Southern Turkey. See map here: https://www.jagranjosh.com/general-knowledge/what-is-greater-israel-why-is-the-idea-not-acceptable-to-the-muslim-community-1621507466-1
Greater Israel: https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Ffq1blp8bav851.png
"You ISN'T A STATE!" Reply: "NO! You ISN'T A STATE!" Reply to the reply: "We're going to genocide you!" …You again? What do you want? …You think I'm kidding!? …Read the article above!
At this rate, they should conquer half of Suez, Jordan, Lebanon, and Syria in few years. Thats what evil does to stupid people who can’t take a hint.
More ethnic cleansing of Greater Israel. They tried and failed once before to invade and keep Lebanon, and now they are trying again.
Hezbollah is anxiously waiting for them to fall again in their trap…!
Good luck with that, moron.
Why are we bothering quoting some random Zionist clown? What the hell is a "Diaspora Minister"? And who cares? He's going to be just another dead or fleeing Zionist within the next year.
They did bloodtests. The Lebanese people are descendants of people who have been there for thousands of years.
I just thought that was interesting.
It's rather humorous seeing Israel bleating about its regional neighbors not being 'legitimate states'.
I'm glad I read down far enough before I repeated what you just said. I was shocked I got this far.
It's the work of the zionist twenty four seven spew factory…!
Yes, well, isn't projection a common defensive behavior among those guilty of misbehavior? And it works, sometimes. For a while.
I surmise a big reason Netanyahu is postponing on his planned UN appearance is the reception may not be great for him. Sound applause given to Jordan and Turkey’s leaders who spoke entirely on Palestine. Erdogan got a loud ovation saying the world stopped Hitler and needs to step up now.