Half of American adults believe the brutal Israeli assault on Gaza has gone “too far,” according to a new poll from AP-NORC.
The poll, conducted from January 25-29, found 50% of respondents thought the slaughter went too far, compared with 40% when the same question was asked back in November.
The new poll showed 31% of respondents believed Israel’s assault has “been about right,” while 15% think it has “not gone far enough.” Israel has killed over 27,000 Palestinians since mid-October, including over 11,500 children.
The opposition to the mass killing of Palestinians is stronger among Democrats but is growing among Republicans. Only 18% of Republicans said the Israeli campaign had gone too far in November, which rose to 33% in the latest poll.
The opposition among Democrats has been put on display at President Biden’s campaign events, which are frequently disrupted by protesters calling for a ceasefire in Gaza. Some demonstrators have called the president “Genocide Joe” due to his staunch support for Israel.
Previous polling has shown the majority of Americans want the US to press for a ceasefire in Gaza. A December poll from Data for Progress found that 61% of American voters support the idea of the US calling for a “permanent” ceasefire in Gaza and a general de-escalation of violence, including 76% of Democrats, 49% of Republicans, and 57% of independent or third-party voters.
One must wonder about the ignorance out there. There is a most brutal and sadistic genocide in progress, in broad daylight and people don’t get the magnitude of it.
IGNORANCE IS BLISS.
Most Americans aren’t being exposed to news that makes it clear that there’s an ongoing genocide. And most Americans have been conditioned from birth to see Israel as the good guys and the Palestinians as terrorists.
It’s actually a big deal that half of them think Israel has gone too far.
The problem is that they’ll shrug and say, “oh well, what can you do? Trump will do the same”, and then they’ll use it as justification to vote for Genocide Joe like obedient little cultist Democrats.
I see it ALL the time.
Five Things Liberals Say To Avoid Taking A Real Position On Gaza
“It’s heartbreaking!” 2. “It’s complicated!” 3. “BUT TRUMP!” 4. “I really hope there can be peace there someday!” 5. “I support a two-state solution!”
Liberals love talking about how “sad” and “heartbreaking” what’s happening in Gaza is like it’s some kind of natural disaster, some tragically tragic tragedy that their government has been passively witnessing instead of actively facilitating. It lets them express their progressive humanitarian feelings without actually taking a meaningful political position against what’s being done in their name with their tax dollars and with their tacit consent.
https://caitlinjohnstone.com.au/2024/02/02/five-things-liberals-say-to-avoid-taking-a-real-position-on-gaza/
All true, but it will only take a relative few of them to vote third-party or stay home to sink Biden’s reelection chances. He’s in big trouble.
In places like Michigan, for certain. I just think that most people will vote like zombies in the end. They are counting on it.
Biden’s got an uphill battle at the moment, especially in Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Georgia.
On the other hand, we really haven’t seen what RFK’s effect is going to shape up like just yet. Some polling has him hurting Biden more than Trump, some has him hurting Trump more than Biden, and we don’t know what percentage he’ll top out at before almost certainly fading to maybe half his top.
Fair points.
Wait, has RFK gotten on a significant number of ballots? He started going independent later.
Last time I noticed, he was on the ballot in two states (Utah and New Hampshire), had new “parties” forming in six states where it’s easy to get on with a party line but not so much as an independent (the two of the six that I recall are North Carolina and Texas), and had petition drives going in several others (the one that comes to mind is California, where he’ll likely have no effect on the outcome).
His polling so far has been all over the place, anywhere from 5% to 20%, and probably reflects name recognition and “heck, this is months off, who knows” stuff more than reality. It will probably be mid-year before we see his real impact shaping up as general election advertising and campaigning begins in earnest. If past third party campaigns trends apply, he’ll hit his peak in early September, at which point if that peak is significant the two major parties will go all out on bashing him and knock him down to maybe half that peak.
But let’s say he peaks at 10%, and ends up knocking down 5% in November. There are a number of states where a 5% take that doesn’t split evenly as to “second choice” could change the outcome from what a two-way race would have looked like.
RFK, Jr. is a fraud. I am a registered Democrat and there is no way I would vote for him.
I’m not a registered Democrat and there is no way I would vote for him either.
But there are people who would, and who will, vote for him. Those people and their reasons for picking him instead of Trump or Biden will likely be a factor in the outcome.
When he came out of the gate, he said reasonable things about how we can’t afford the war in Ukraine. Then he said something, don’t even recall what, and he was labeled as antisemitic, so he did a 180, becoming Mr Zionism. I don’t know how you could run the children’s defense org and reconcile it with the killing of children in Gaza. So he revealed himself as another standard politician establishment puppet.
How his supporters see him as a rebel candidate escapes me.
And I’d still take him over Trump or Biden. I won’t vote for him, but he is the lesser evil amongst the three.
Let’s face it, that’s a very low threshold.
I think dog feces would smell less and do less harm than those two.
I would vote for dog feces.
Yeah. We should start a write in campaign.
But not dog feces that makes excuses for genocide, which is what RFK Jr. has been doing since the lobby apparently got to him.
And beyond making excuses, he has delivered some really unhinged rants. Really unhinged.
And I still have him as the least smelly as compared to those 2 other particular samplings of dog feces I was talking about.
For me, supporting genocide is a disqualification, no matter who the opponents are.
Me too. And I already said I wasn’t going to vote for him. I was only comparing him with the other two supporters of genocide.
Understood.
I don’t understand the people who don’t think that supporting genocide is an absolute deal breaker. “But Trump would do it too!” So fracking what? I’m not voting for him either. If Pol Pot were running as a Democrat would that mean you’d vote for him?
WoW!!! Am I ever with You on this one!!!! RFK-Jr. Seemed 2B great American Hope but all smashed on the rocks of Zionism, Apartheid, Cruelty & GENOCIDE.. “Oh We Are Special & G-d has given US Permision to do it. It’s there in the Old Testament!!!!
??? But didn’t the arrival of G-d’s Son put all thatall that murder and pillage being
“His Will”. Or do you believe the “Old” & Not The “New” Testament….????? Or are we stuck with that old mean G-d that wasts us to kill even the suckling babes? I don’t really believe any of the hearsay that some Probably Jewish man said
“G-d” told him. There are a lot of deities around the world and I am loath to be convinced that any all powerful god would let Germany genocide 7000 of
“His Chosen People” It just doesn’t ring true!!!!!
No need to vote for the lesser of the three when there sre other choices.
If he reveals anti Israel views, he will be crushed by AIPAC just like any other presidential candidates…!
That doesn’t portend well for his presidency.
RFK-Jr. Does not believe Israel is an apartheid state, even though Palestinian children must have any cases brought against them in military court under military law!!! Add to that all the travel restrictions the occupier imposes, it’s a slam dunk apartheid regime. Those who are occupied are imprisoned by check points they cannot pass but the colonial occupier can pass, whick makes RFK-Jr blind to complete loss of freedom by an unfriendly & dangerous sadistic colonial occupation force. Check out “one shot two kills tee shirts” that IDF sometimes wear showing a pregnant woman in a burka with a target bullseye on her baby bump if you have any doubts about this.
Annnnd…………..we get Trump again. Lovely.
Yes, there’s an excellent chance that we’ll get Trump again. That would be a horrendous situation, but I don’t think there’s any moral argument for voting for Biden’s reelection. Voting for an administration that enables, arms, supports, denies and provides diplomatic and international relations cover for genocide, when you know that all those things are true, seems to me to amount to complicity in that genocide.
The “lesser evil” argument just isn’t credible in this case. And the message that voting for reelection would send to the Dems would be the worst ever. For a very long time, they have taken the votes of their traditional base of working class, progressive, and minority voters for granted, barely pretending to pay lip service to their concerns. Those voters are always told, “You have to vote for us because the other guys are so terrible.” And the voters do, and get neglect and terrible policy in return. Just imagine the consequences of letting the Dems know that even genocide! won’t cost them that support.
The Trump Derangement Syndrome does not hold water anymore. The lies about Trump and the phony charges have been exposed and it’s time for people to start thinking for themselves and quit taking all the lies for granted! It seems that there are people who have a “bullying” instinct in them and there are those who are reasonable and open-minded. We need MUCH more of the latter group!
One does not have to be a victim of TDS to recognize that Donald Trump is an ignorant, incompetent, reckless, dangerous narcissist. If you don’t recognize that, well . . .
And if you don’t like bullies . . .
I prefer Trump to Byedon, but will be voting 3rd party because I dont believe anyone who supports torture should be president
The Polls don’t adequately reflect the Democratic surge that will occur due to Dobbs in their likely voter calculations, and has thrown a few elections to the “D” side already.
If it weren’t for Dobbs, the Dems would be toast, but Dobbs isn’t going anywhere between now and November.
Yes. Voting for someone is a rubber stamp on their current agenda, not what you hope it will be.
Considering that the only way to slow down the slaughter is to make the federal government less efficient at delivering weapons, Trump is probably the lesser of two evils. Sort of like pouring sugar into the engine when you can’t turn the car around.
You may be correct.
Biden needed to go, yesterday.
He and Lurch need to go into a grey matter recovery program };-)>
Dump Biden.
Jail Trump.
Where’s the Reset button??
If “None Of The Above” were on the ballot it would win in a landslide.
Worse than another Biden gerancratic lost in space & bumbling. I don’t think so. I’m voting libertarian or rainbow, & not 4 Dem or Rpub again this Pres election yr too.
Biden’s handlers went this far in four crappy years. What’s to stop their agenda with a “new Manchurian candidate” in the Oval Office? We haven’t seen the length and depths to which the Deep State will go to to maintain power!
What is truly sad is the treatment that Israel has meted out to an occupied people for over 70 years! It’s sad that this isn’t part of the narrative when talking about this war. It’s presented as an “Israel against the world” scenario and actually it is, but not in the way people think.
Perhaps the US is an occupied country-taken away from its Natives and from Mexico-are you ready to give up YOUR home?
Even if they are exposed to the news of the genocide, most do not care.
In other news, 1 in 4 Americans think the Sun goes around the Earth. We are not known for our connection to objective reality.
https://futurism.com/1-in-4-americans-think-the-sun-orbits-the-earth#
“Half of Americans”? Is that a high number or a low one. Actually, it’s low when you think of the means available to people nowadays to instantly access TRUTHFUL news via the internet! It’s sad, frustrating and amazing that so many people can be fooled simply because they are unaware of the LYING nature of the mainstream media. Americans aren’t stupid as much as they are lied to 24/7!
“TRUTHFUL news via the internet!”
I bet from that half of US public being poled the large majority of them were older folks that either do not have internet access or if they do they go directly to mainstream media websites, or are too lazy to browse the internet even on their cell phones. Turning on their beloved TV is a lot more convenient way to get the false news everyday day in and day out…!
Old Habits Die Hard…!
Ageism, one of the last bigotries that are popular and acceptable.
Stop making this shit up and come clean of your true identity…!
Huh?
What was the Oct 7 attack,if not a pogrom?
Was the aim of the Oct 7th attack to massacre or expel Israel’s Jewish population?
If so, I guess it was a pogrom.
If not, well, words mean things.
Was the aim of the Oct 7th attack to massacre or expel Israel’s Jewish population?
If so, I guess it was a pogrom.
If not, well, words mean things.
Not broken down here, but a large majority of those who think Israel has gone too far, or worse, are those who, if they vote, would normally be expected to vote for Biden this year. Some of them are not going to, and the Dems cannot afford to lose many at all.
Biden has lost the Muslim/ Arab vote in Michigan. They voted for Biden in 2020.
Yup. Muslim and Arab-America voters are lost. I applaud them.
And I applaud the Democrats for losing them since Trump banned a lot of Muslims from entering the US if I remember correctly. Next group I would like to applaud are the Blacks, who Biden really fu@ked through out his career but they’re still loyal to him for some fu@ked up reason.
As a Black American, I agree with you about your assessment of Blacks in this country. Everyone of my friends and all of my relatives make excuses for Biden and plan on voting for him this year. Their hatred of Trump has blinded them. I find both Biden and Trump “deplorable ” and just hope neither one will be on the ballot in November, we have 8 months, who knows maybe there will be some sort of a miracle
Black Americans, mostly, have continued to support the Dems long after they abandoned policies that can provide fairness, equity and real-world assistance to people who have given them their votes for generations. The identity politics hustle has been a slick trick that has fooled people across the spectrum. Well, that and the endless refrain that “the other guys are worse.”
It’s depressing.
Amen, brother!
It is sad that this is the best we can do.However-watching the Hillary debates,Trump said he would meet with Putin to end the Syria war-and was blasted by the MSM, as”soft on Russia”.Biden pushed Russia into war,and allowed the invasion at the Southern border-which Trump opposed,and for which he was bitterly attacked by the power elite puppets. If MAGA meant re-industrialization-it would create many jobs for working class and poor blacks,whites,browns,ect.Evicting US citizens from homeless shelters and providing welfare largess for the economic migrants and foreign criminals,hurts all US poor.
Something like 94% of Israelis believe not enough killing has been done by the IDF. 7Oct interfered with their carefree live as occupiers.
At the end of the day, someone has to give a damn what an ‘american’ thinks.
Well, Biden certainly has not…!
Half of Americans believe the genocide is acceptable. It is very bad if true.
Embarrassing.
OOOOO0000000ooooo0o ‘&&&&& don’t forget the inflation!!!! It could hurt him just ass badly…!!! I’m very happy to see Dave DeCamp isn’t pulling hi9s literary punches and wavering on whether this unconsable slaughter is a genocide and pinning the tail on this donkey Biden and his but buddy the Nuttyyahu…
Was Oct 7 a massacre or a genocide?
An atrocity. The other atrocity on that day was the IDF gunning Israelis, the initiation of the Hannibal Directive. By tanks, and Apache helicopters. As well as the sharp shooting IDF soldiers and police that were involved.
A lot of both.
Well, let the numbers speak. 11,500 Children Have Been Killed in Gaza.
In Gaza: Two hundred and sixty names of babies whose age was 0; names of babies who didn’t get to celebrate their first birthday, nor will they ever celebrate anything else. Here are some of their names: Abdul Jawad Hussu, Abdul Khaleq Baba, Abdul Rahim Awad, Abdul Rauf al-Fara, Murad Abu Saifan, Nabil al-Eidi, Najwa Radwan, Nisreen al-Najar, Oday al-Sultan, Zayd al-Bahbani, Zeyn al-Jarusha, Zayne Shatat. What dreams did their parents have for them? Then there are hundreds of names of one- and two-year old children; toddlers three or four years of age; children who were five, six, seven or eight, up to the youths who were 17 when they died.
In Israel: Partial data by Hebrew media covering the civilians — killed by thousands of invading terrorists and by some of the thousands of rockets fired that day at Israeli cities — reveals that they include two infants, 12 other children under the age of 10, 36 civilians aged 10-19
Both from Israeli newspapers.
50% of US adults might think Israel has gone too far, but the 0.05% of US adults whom the federal government exists to serve think it hasn’t gone far enough, so the war will continue.
and who are these .05% of the population?
*in Bernie Sanders voice* “the millionaires and billionaires.” But honestly mostly just the billionaires. And not all of them but many. And their high placed Eunuchs in the Federal regime.
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The other half did not know what a “Palestinian” was and, when asked, thought “Gaza” is something you put on wounds, something like “a bandage’…
Go figure…
Lol…! It is true the knowledge of US public geography sucks…!
Only the hispanics would’ve known what Gaza means.
All we have to do, to avert war or potential war, is simply utilize a free, fare and indestructible Peace.
Kinda like a date rape where the perp pushes a knife into the neck of the victin!!!
“half of US adults” no. half of all US adults who were actually polled.
and no where in this article nor even the link to the poll does it say how many US adults were actually polled or what region those polled resided in. what if all 100 of the US adults actually polled was in Florida? oops that would be obvious bias, wouldn’t it. how about the farm-belt? oops i bet that would be biased the other way.
so much for your poll.
“. . . and no where in this article nor even the link to the poll does it say how many US adults were actually polled . . .”
Read the linked article again.
“. . . or what region those polled resided in. what if all 100 of the US adults actually polled was in Florida?”
I don’t think you understand how public opinion polling is conducted by reputable professional pollsters. And maybe you don’t understand how to judge which pollsters are reputable and professional.
https://www.norc.org/about/departments/ap-norc-center-public-affairs-research.html
i’ll be damned there was a fine print in that link that was so so faint i had to shine a searchlight on it = January results are based on interviews with 1,152 U.S. adults
right then. “half of US adults …”
no. half of eleven hundred and fifty two adults.
there are more adults than that on the other side of my street.
“no. half of eleven hundred and fifty two adults.
there are more adults than that on the other side of my street.”
So, not only did you comment on the piece without reading carefully, not only do you not understand how responsible pollsters select samples, you don’t have the faintest idea how polling methodology works.
Here, read Quinnipiac’s overview of methodology and then scan the FAQ page.
Half of 1,152 adults who are treated as a representative sample of US adults.
Whether the polling methodology actually produced a representative sample is a good question, of course.
What obvious bias is that? “Obvious” to whom?
it’s called “demographics”. but you already knew exactly what i meant the instant you saw the word ‘Florida’.
Contrast with Israel: The latest Peace Index survey shows that 94% of Israeli Jews think Israel used the right amount of firepower in Gaza – or not enough (43%).
And three-quarters of Israelis think the number of Palestinians harmed since October is justified.
Its tribal warfare.
Both populations are brainwashed…! Israel controls its internal media just as effective as it controls the US mainstream media…!
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Half of US Adults Think USA Has Gone Too Far For Israel.
Putting US military in harm way for a foreign nation while USA is being invaded from the southern border?
Invaded from the Southern border?
Whyd id the US enter WW I-emotional links to England.
well there was a draft (conscription) for military aged men in the US for WW1, so maybe most Americans did not feel any emotional link to England
Being drafted doesn’t mean you don’t want to serve or that you don’t know what f is going on.
most men who are forced are filled with resentment
I wish this poll was conducted among Members of Congress, Government workers, Governors, those in the Military and Politicians running for office. I want to know just how infested our Government is with Zionist, War Criminals. After the first school, first hospital was bombed, there should have been a Cease Fire.
I’d like to see the poll that asks Palestinians if they are willing to coexist with and recognize Israel.
Their public statement on that is yes if Israel stays within the 1967 borders.
No-many Palestinians do want peace,many want it all back
Zionism is at its core an anti-democratic movement in Palestine and in the US.
The best democracy money can buy!
Zionism is a national liberation movement.
LOL, Zionism is a colonial movement; therefore, Zionism is the opposite of a national liberation movement.
Israel was founded on the suppression of Palestinian national liberation by the colonizing Zionists.
In 1948, Israel forced 750,00 Palestinians from their homes and they have never been permitted to return to Palestine.
Stop the genocide in Gaza!
End US aid to Israel!
Dave Forgot this important note from original article:
`Most adults still place a lot of blame on Hamas for the war, but 4 in 10 think the United States is too supportive of Israel in the conflict.`
Would’ve been better off sharing the link to the original article vs just creating a manipulated version of it.
https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-poll-biden-war-gaza-4159b28d313c6c37abdb7f14162bcdd1