The US military announced on Sunday that a US nuclear-powered submarine was in the Middle East in the latest provocation aimed at warning regional actors against attacking Israel or US forces.
US Central Command said an Ohio-class submarine entered the region without offering other details. A US Navy spokesperson later told Business Insider that it is a guided-missile submarine (SSGN), which can carry 154 Tomahawk cruise missiles, as opposed to a ballistic-missile submarine (SSBN), which would be armed with nuclear weapons.
The submarine represents another form of substantial American firepower in the region. The US typically does not announce the location of its Ohio-class submarines unless it’s looking to send a threatening message. The US recently docked a nuclear-armed Ohio-Class submarine in South Korea for the first time since the 1980s, a significant provocation toward North Korea.
Since the October 7 Hamas attack on southern Israel, the US has deployed two aircraft carrier strike groups, air defenses, more troops, and additional fighter jets and bombers to the region. US MQ-9 Reaper drones are also flying over Gaza, and US special operations forces are in Israel.
The show of force has not deterred attacks on US forces based in Syria and Iraq, and Hezbollah and Israel continue to trade fire across the Lebanon-Israel border. Yemen’s Houthis have also fired missiles and drones at Israel and said the attacks would continue until Israel ends its onslaught on Gaza.
Isn’t that stoking more tension in the area? What if Russia counters with two nuclear-capable submarines in the middle east?
Why would Russia do that? Russia has their hands full in Ukraine, they don’t want to get involved in the Palestinian vs Israel battle.
Why would we stick our noses into it, oh that’s right “we can fight three wars at once” according to the idiots.
Why would Russia stick its nose in Ukraine?
But the U.S. would so quickly get toasted f Russia & China were amongst the ones of the three that the U.S. was against. They are serious, better armed, and not as indebted and that is Times two!!!!!!!!!’
That does not answer the question.
Tim;The Ukrainian war is almost over. The ownly thing left are the peace terms which will not favor the Nazis inn the Ukrainian government.
Peace will come when Slow Joe says it will come. His advisers are really bad warmongers. There is also the investors in the MIC corporations who are doing quite well, as are the corporations. Can’t stop the profits by saving a couple million folks from genocide.
No, but they certainly do not trust us wherever we are.
You are probably right Tim Burns that Russia won’t get involved or even want to be involved, but I disagree on your reason that Russia has its “hand full” in Ukraine, she is a great power and like the U.S. & China can easily handle a feckless non nuclear welfare case like Ukraine and an other situation like Israel that is very well armed but has no strategic depth and could be put totally out of action by two or three well chosen high yeild hits. Do not forget Russia has nukes 4000 times the blast of what the U.S. and NATO have and in any small state it would be game over in the first few hours of any serious confligration.
The great power Russia is struggling to handle Ukraine. Nearly 20 months of war and they still have yet yo knock out Ukraine. I agree one destroyed Israel with two or three hits, that is why Israel will not let Iran have nuclear weapons. Any country attacking Israel this way have better prepared to lose some of their major cities to a counter strike.
BTW, the USA retired its heavy nuclear bombs in the 70s to be replaced by multiple smaller bombs. You need to study the law of diminishing returns of nuclear weapons to understand why multiple smaller bombs are better. And the 4000 times bigger number is nonsense. USA has a 1.2 megaton bomb. So 4000 time would require a bomb of 4,800 megatons.
“4000 times the blast”-not really. Russia will hesitate because 1 Israeli Dolphin sub can do a fair amount of nuclear damage,and Israel’s Jerichos are deeply set into rock. Two or three Jerichos or F-15 nuclear loaded might get through would be very painful for Russia. There are also stories of nuclear mines inrussian cities.One thing that is predictable is that war is full of nasty surprises.
I believe Russia already has a submarine parked in Tartus.
The military is not in control here. The political hawks are running the show because without massive military spending the economy crashes which brings a new set of problems forthy. The stupid bastards running this country do not have the ability to thing things through.
Read this from Scheepost: https://scheerpost.com/2023/11/06/were-a-war-machine-as-a-nation-the-truth-about-american-politics/
No tensions and no news here.
Submarines navigate ALL THE TIME through International Waters. China, Russia, USA and many other countries do it.
Oh, and they keep an eye on each other, minus US. Hard to track US subs.
Russia can do whatever it wants with its subs. They probably have presence there anyways.
Yeah, right, we always have subs or aircraft carriers idling near Persia. Slow Joe and his merry bunch of war mongers are going to get us involved one h*ll of a mess. His stupidity about Ukraine is bad enough, but the conflagration he could set off in the ME………
The only stupidity in Ukraine was done by your boy when he thought he could take that country in one week.
If you support Palestine, you should be ok with Ukraine fighting for its freedom and others supporting their cause, but I know, you are just anti everything US.
I’m sure they have been positioned for quite a while.
Lots of firepower is merely lots of showpower…!
the Pentagon is developing a new nuclear gravity bomb that is 24 times more powerful than Hiroshima’s atomic bomb
http://www.stationgossip.com/2023/11/america-is-developing-new-nuclear.html
Well then others would reply with WMD.
Since you’re the music expert here, does it remind you of the song, “What the world needs now…?” But, I can’t remember the rest of it… Was it “Nuclear Submarine” or “Nuclear Gravity Bomb?” …Wait!? It wasn’t “…love, sweet love” was it!? …Damn it! Genocide Joe loves him some more sweet love genocide. wut
Do I give a royal rat’s behind what the idiots in DC decide to do? Not at all, as I’ve long since realized that the American public has been completely disenfranchised by the human detritus posing as our leadership class.
Not only what RBE has to add, let me tell you that Russia knows exactly where every U.n nuclear sub the U.S. has I believe from open source info that I have gleaned over 50 years of paying attention.
“let me tell you that Russia knows exactly where every U.n nuclear sub the U.S. has” No they don’t.
My Golden retriever is smarter the half of Washington and has a better personality.
Correction: ALL of Washington.
It will make a difference if the Fascists and right wingers take complete power and cut food stamps,steal pensions,cancel Social Security and Medicare. If you think that is not on the agenda wake the fuck up.
It’s already being done by the Democrat and Republican bipartisan charade.
The new, oh so evangelical, Speaker of the House came out and said he was going after Social Security and Medicare. What a freak. A walking, talking nightmare.
Hi world; we have an ultra-sneaky submarine that we spent BILLIONS of DOLLARS on, to make it super stealthy and virtually undetectable; so to level the playing field, I’m gonna tell y’all where it is – or at least, narrow it down.
Are you all afraid of my magnificence now? Really, Truly afraid???
I am;
I’m afraid that my country is run by a pack of inbred, low-IQ cretins.
I hear you Javy, we hear you. We feel the same exact way…
It’s in times like these, we are all made to wonder about a great many things… I have some hope, I do, that we will just snap out of it and embrace our own reality.
And our own humanity!
Donna: Counting on sanity and humanity from American politicians and military genious is foolhardy and severely mistaken.
Humans do not passively watch grotesque Israelis bomb hospitals and schools.
But humans here deny that Hamas broke a relative peace and committed innumerable atrocities. People deny that Hamas uses Gazan hospitals and schools as shields.
What a relative peace? There was never been peace for the Palestinians under the Israeli brutal occupation ever. Stop spreading lies and fake propaganda.
Forest Gump”Stupid is as Stupid does”.
No. Cowards are as cowards do (not) do. We have a bunch of them, from Slow Joe on down.
You need to read this from Scheerpost: https://scheerpost.com/2023/11/06/were-a-war-machine-as-a-nation-the-truth-about-american-politics/
I heard on You Tube that the Saudis told the US to cut their support for Israel or else. I also read that Russia is sending troops to Gaza and China is sending warships. If these are true the conditions are going from serious to critical.When we they ever learn when to fold a losing hand?
I have not read that. The Saudis could cut oil production, as could the other oil producing states, perhaps causing gas in the U.S. to hit $10-15 per gallon for regular. The economy would grind to a stop or collapse. Why would Russia and China get involved?
Apparently it is in the Suez Canal. My guess: on the way towards Iran.
Yep. To hook up with the carriers. If Israel and the U.S. do attack Iran, look for Israel to use a tactical nuke. Netanyahu suspended a member of his administration who said a tactical nuke should be used in Gaza. Just suspended, not fired. For putting out there some of the war plans of the Israel fascists. According to the Israeli ministry, 22,000 Palestinians have been murdered, almost half children. A higher figure that even what the Palestinians allege.
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As pointless as senile Joe Biden: “US Announces Presence of Guided-Missile Submarine in the Middle East”
Near Persia.
Still pointless unless Joey Biden is going to nuke Iran and set the world on fire.
Perhaps an assist to Israel, then cover its back. Then say the world is safe.
Russia no doubt has had its N subs poised off our coasts for decades. A showof force,or a warning, is not a provocation.
Is this a joke? Are these idiots going to parade a nuclear sub on the surface so the Iranians can watch it? Or perhaps send out some sonar pings so Iranians can track it?
Have they finally opened a kindergarten in the WH?
OHIO class submarines can carry nuclear ICBMS. This sub most likely has them.
What a dumb and meaningless posturing. And clueless fools buy into the fear.
First, that Ohio class garbage was made in 1981. It’s hopelessly outdated.
Second, primarily mission for NBMCSM is to remain hidden. You don’t announce to the world where it is! It makes it a sitting duck target!