Report: Ukrainian Drone Attacks Inside Russia Use Western Intelligence

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1. Ukraine is absolutely dependent upon NATO, not only in what does concern the intelligence but in all the rest: weapons, munitions, money etc.

2. OLD

   NEWS

   (at least for anyone who knows wtf is going on)

3. The Economist report said one purpose of the drone attacks, which involves targeting residential buildings in Moscow, is to have a “psychological impact” on “ordinary Russians” not affected by the war, meaning they’re purposely targeting civilians.

   In other words the actual definition of terrorism. Not to have any real material effect but to terrorize a people or a group.

   Moscow is a huge city of 12 million, or maybe 20 million with the surroundings, and these pinpricks don’t scare people at all. It makes them angry, however, as it shows the Ukrainians would like to bomb all Russia’s government buildings if they could, while Russia has refrained from destroying Ukraine’s government buildings – which they could have done at any time. (And should have. Russia never gets any points by the media for showing restraint, just like they didn’t stop calling Trump a “Russian agent” when he armed Ukraine and sanctioned Russia more than any other president.)

   They also sent a group of killers they pretended weren’t directed by the Kiev regime, across the border to kill Russian civilians and take others hostage to get back to Ukraine. The media described this as “Russians fighting Putin,” because some of them were Russian speakers. (Zelensky’s mother tongue is also Russian. Is that a “Russian fighting back”? His Ukrainian is terrible, a language he only learned haltingly as an adult, but he insists in holding speeches in Ukrainian.)

   All this does is motivate Russians to sign up in the military, more than 1,000 per day.

   1. Terrorism is a useful tool of the Empire Of Lies.

   2. The Russians don’t hit Ukrainian government buildings because their munitions don’t have the capability for accuracy is more like it.

      Yes. I’m sure the citizens of Moscow (and St Petersburg) are signing up at “more than 1000 per day”.

      1. Why would Russia care about accuracy? You’re fucking up your own narrative.

         1. More like moronic imbecile than R.T.

      2. MORE LIKE IRATIONAL BULLSHITTER THAN rational thinker… As if the nation that led the world into space and has bombs 1000s of times bigger than any other country deployed, lacks the capability to drop the Rada makes a joke of the alleged Rational THINKER

         1. Oh, boy. You really got me with that one. How will I ever recover from that skilled verbal lashing?!?

   3. “The Economist report said one purpose of the drone attacks, which involves targeting residential buildings in Moscow, is to have a “psychological impact” on “ordinary Russians” not affected by the war, meaning they’re purposely targeting civilians.”

      In other words, Russia is the biggest terrorist state in this war but not to you of course.

      1. How exactly does what you quoted from the article prove your point?

         1. How exactly did you miss who i was responding too?
            And how the fuk did you not question the poster i was responding to?

            Your obsession to come after the non pro Russia folks here is insane.

            1. It didn’t matter who you were responding to. He, like you, quoted a part of the article. His point was obvious. It is the definition of terrorism. Your point is lost on me. And your obsession of who I respond to is the real obsession that you should be concerned about.

   4. The nordstream pipeline explosion was the worst ecological disaster act of terrorism, brought to you by people howling about climate change and the conditions of the ocean. And there are crickets in response from these hypocrites.

      1. Kinda-sorta like Amerikkka green-lighting Japan’s plan to release radioactive waste into the ocean…what could possibly go wrong?
         But what the hell, Japan is a good little ally. Can you picture the reaction if it were Russia or China doing so?

      2. The term ‘hypocrisy’ doesn’t do justice to these ‘climate warriors’. Just like in all other issues concerning climate, they are very selective about what they hold up for criticism.

         1. I know. I believe climate change is very real, but these warriors are full of sh-t.

            1. They know it is real. They only want to profit now, get top grade slices of meat, top grade wines, women, autos, d*mn future generations.

            2. I meant those who push it but are very selective in where sacrifices must come from or what they criticize.

            3. Exactly, ED, since the US military is responsible for 25% of carbon emissions released.

         2. I agree the US military has a bigger CO2 foot print than China , but the Eco Zealots give them a pass ,

4. This article is very plausible. And it mentions that the Russians on their side are perfecting their defenses. The Economist could also ask where do the Russians get their intel from? They seem to have good sources.

   1. I’m sure there are imbedded spies along with technological apparatus. I recall an article where Russia knew that the CIA was training neonazi battalions in the US, because they had spies imbedded there.

   2. Yes, the Russians are doing super great. Everything according to the SMO plans. They will soon finally take Kyiv too.

5. Please, this is SOP for US warhawks, including providing elements described as war crimes:
   JUNE 17, 2004
   How Reagan Armed Saddam with Chemical Weapons

   While the August 18 NYT article added new details about the extent of US military collaboration with Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein during Iraq’s 1980-88 war with Iran, it omitted the most outrageous aspect of the scandal: not only did Ronald Reagan’s Washington turn a blind-eye to the Hussein regime’s repeated use of chemical weapons against Iranian soldiers and Iraq’s Kurdish minority, but the US helped Iraq develop its chemical, biological and nuclear weapons programs…Using its allies in the Middle East, Washington funnelled huge supplies of arms to Iraq. Classified State Department cables uncovered by Frantz and Waas described covert transfers of howitzers, helicopters, bombs and other weapons to Baghdad in 1982-83 from Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Kuwait.
   Howard Teicher, who monitored Middle East policy at the US National Security Council during the Reagan administration, told the February 23, 1992, LA Times: “There was a conscious effort to encourage third countries to ship US arms or acquiesce in shipments after the fact. It was a policy of nods and winks.”….A 1994 US Senate report revealed that US companies were licenced by the commerce department to export a “witch’s brew” of biological and chemical materials, including bacillus anthracis (which causes anthrax) and clostridium botulinum (the source of botulism). The American Type Culture Collection made 70 shipments of the anthrax bug and other pathogenic agents.
   The report also noted that US exports to Iraq included the precursors to chemical warfare agents, plans for chemical and biological warfare facilities and chemical warhead filling equipment. US firms supplied advanced and specialised computers, lasers, testing and analysing equipment. Among the better-known companies were Hewlett Packard, Unisys, Data General and Honeywell.
   https://www.counterpunch.org/2004/06/17/how-reagan-armed-saddam-with-chemical-weapons/

   1. I always get a kick at how the republicans always use Raegan as their standard to measure other republicans by. Almost as comical as the democrats using Clinton (Bill, not the bitch).

      1. The uniparty is a big club of neocons, warhawks and plutocratic anus kissers.

      2. The sooner the country realizes that there are no heroes looking out for them, and abandons the tribal team sports, the better off we’ll all be.

      3. Witch, even…!!!!!~

   2. More on real time intelligence:

      In 1988, during the waning days of Iraq’s war with Iran, the United States learned through satellite imagery that Iran was about to gain a major strategic advantage by exploiting a hole in Iraqi defenses. U.S. intelligence officials conveyed the location of the Iranian troops to Iraq, fully aware that Hussein’s military would attack with chemical weapons, including sarin, a lethal nerve agent.
      The intelligence included imagery and maps about Iranian troop movements, as well as the locations of Iranian logistics facilities and details about Iranian air defenses. The Iraqis used mustard gas and sarin prior to four major offensives in early 1988 that relied on U.S. satellite imagery, maps, and other intelligence. These attacks helped to tilt the war in Iraq’s favor and bring Iran to the negotiating table, and they ensured that the Reagan administration’s long-standing policy of securing an Iraqi victory would succeed. But they were also the last in a series of chemical strikes stretching back several years that the Reagan administration knew about and didn’t disclose…It has been previously reported that the United States provided tactical intelligence to Iraq at the same time that officials suspected Hussein would use chemical weapons. But the CIA documents, which sat almost entirely unnoticed in a trove of declassified material at the National Archives in College Park, Md., combined with exclusive interviews with former intelligence officials, reveal new details about the depth of the United States’ knowledge of how and when Iraq employed the deadly agents. They show that senior U.S. officials were being regularly informed about the scale of the nerve gas attacks. They are tantamount to an official American admission of complicity in some of the most gruesome chemical weapons attacks ever launched. https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/08/26/exclusive-cia-files-prove-america-helped-saddam-as-he-gassed-iran/

      1. Yes, what do you get when you reward war criminals? ans.: more war crimes.

         1. And then you later assassinate your coconspirator allegedly for weapons you provided. Zelensky should read some history.

            1. Yes, US stabs its friends in the back once they use them…! Hussein, Khaddafi and Noriega are examples. The next in line: Zelensky…!

            2. Add Russia to your list.

            3. Now, just reading what you wrote would imply that you are talking about adding Russia to the list of friends the US has turned on. But I would be willing to bet you meant Russia and the friends they’ve turned on. Am I right? But I agree. Russia is just one of the overgrown street gangs, Knapp so appropriately termed, that is just as ruthless as we are.

            4. What are we, the country that has a mere 16 years when we were not at war somewhere? Hmmm?

            5. Dont read too much into it. You know very well what i meant and your last sentence supports it.

            6. NOT BUYING your “just as ruthless as we are. ” Just the fact that Russia has spared Ukraine’s parliament is a testament to Russian restraint compared to Bush’s “Shock and Awe” Opening Event” in his war based on the lie, that Iraq had WMD’s

               Can’t you come up with a better example like the U.S. being benign, and Russia being outrageous…????? If not, WHY???

            7. Ukraine is next door. Many, many ethnic Russians live there. Iraq is on the other side of the world with expendable brown people. Russia uses Mercs. Russia uses cluster munitions. Russia uses land mines. Russia has similar spy agencies like the CIA. Thomas Knapp gave a perfect description of the US, Russia, China, ect,. Overgrown street gangs. Russia is just not as powerful to be quite as belligerent as the street gang being run from DC.

            8. All the Soviet Union did during WWII is lose 20 million souls defeating the NAZIs.

            9. With all due respect to those who served during WW2 and especially to those who gave their lives, I believe many people tend to overplay the part the U.S. played in winning WW2 while underemphasizing the role that the then Soviet Union played. As Vip mentioned, 20 million Russians died during WW2, far more deaths than the U.S suffered being that the U.S. was and is an ocean apart and didn’t have to fight on its own turf, suffering destruction of its land and people and really didn’t get fully into the European fight until the war had been well underway for a couple of years. The price paid by Russians in the Barbarossi invasion alone in repelling the Germans was in itself, staggering and was one of the turning points of the war.

            10. Russia claims it was 26 million. And it’s the same Nazi’s, ethos, symbols & all that are the driving force that compelled Z-man to chose war with Russia, rather than neutrality.

            11. How about the US reneging on the JCOPA deal with Iran . If you sign an agreement with the American rats you do so at your peril.

            12. Noriega, our man in Panama, until………….

      2. Saddam kills Iranians. Saddam good. Saddam kill Kuwaitis. Saddam bad.

         1. Saddam given green light to invade Kuwait (which was cut out of Iraq by the British, and were slant drilling Iraqi oil), Saddam bad. Saddam enemy of al_Queda, who cares. Saddam still bad.

         2. Also, Kuwait Couldn’t defend themselves. Their army was only a fraction of Iraq’s.

            1. As if that mattered. Saddam had to go.

6. Neocons. Nuland Blinken Sullivan, Flournoy, Abrams, Haines, Haspel, …) getting increasingly desperate to provoke a generalized war; but, Russia historically has always absorbed massive punishment before choosing to go all out.

   1. The Neocon’s violent, vengeful and psychotic desert god demands it …..

   2. You tankies are gonna have to come to the realization that Russia won’t do s**t because they can’t do s**t. They’re spent and can’t even hang onto the territory the took.

      1. Beg to differ. They have had 30 years to prepare for the inevitable.

         1. The demise of the Russian Fedration? Yes. Probably.

      2. Yeah, the Russians only occupy about 20% of Ukraine. What % of Russian territory does Ukraine occupy..??? Sounds 2me that your “Rational” has suffered some sort of malfunction that cannot calculate or has gone full blown “Irrational”…!!!!!! Maybe time for a tune-up or even an overhaul…

7. Well … no sh*t Sherlock!

8. The US expects Ukrainian drone attacks in Russia to increase even more

   Russia should fully invade Ukraine and get it over with…!

   1. Right. The Russians are REALLY gonna invade now! Hahaha.

   2. Russia already invaded and failed miserably. Now it is just throwing cannon fodders expecting a miracle.

      Get out of your basement and Stop watching RT news and TASS. There’s a whole world out there.

      1. And, at best, Ukraine will have as much land as they did pre-invasion when this is over. And people will think I’m crazy for even suggesting that.

         1. It’s highly unlikely that they’ll get Donetsk and Luhansk back.

            1. Agree, Mr. T.
               And Crimea’s a no-brainer.

9. Washington Post columnist David Ignatius reported Sunday that the US is expecting Ukrainian drone attacks on Russia to increase even more. He described a flurry of 42 drones that targeted Crimea on Friday as “a foretaste of what’s ahead.”

   Ukraine bombing Ukraine. I guess those held hostage and forced to vote in favor of Russia during the referendum must have been released (/s).

10. One of the channels I watch accurately predicted each of the major attacks on Crimea by keeping track of our global hawk movements in the Black Sea. It was obvious that each time our global hawk drones get active and fly over that area that they were gathering intel for the next days attacks. It happened every single time.

    1. Russia should bring down any US drone over the Black Sea by any means short of a missile.

       As for British intel aircraft just shoot these irritants down!

11. Does anyone actually believe a word coming from ByeDone’s toothless old mouth?

    1. Lots of Democrats seem to believe anything the old liar says …..

    2. Or believe anything Rational Thinker writes or posts…????
       Gotta love his ( Russia) “They’re spent and can’t even hang onto the territory the took.” Doe this mean that Russia only controls 19.5% of Ukraine? or is it 18.5%, 17.5% maybe????
       Exactly how much does Russia occupy today…????

       1. Hi Mv
          I blocked the Irrational One some time ago. Generally I get a chuckle out of reading imbecilic posts, but THAT one…I had to start holding my nose. Same with Hasbara Jake.

12. “Report: Ukrainian Drone Attacks Inside Russia Use Western Intelligence – The US expects Ukrainian drone attacks in Russia to increase even more”

    Keep poking the bear and when his claws come out and he slashes your throat do not be surprised.

    The US is making a mortal enemy of a country that once cooperated with the US on many projects. Russia will never again negotiate treaties or cooperative agreements with America.

    At a grass roots level 40,000 young Russians are signing up for the military every month driven by patriotism caused by these drone attacks. Ukrainian drone attacks are the best recruiting tool Russia has.

    1. Poking the Bear and the Panda simultaneously, CT.
       (Though I’ve no idea what a panda’s temperament might be.)

       1. If the West keeps it up, the base where the drones fly out of will be targets. Then what? Who will throw the first tactical nuke? What is the over/under that a NATO country will do it?

13. What a surprise. The same federal government that blows brown people to perdition from the sky for the crime of existing, blows up white people they don’t like as well. I haven’t been this shocked since I watched the Harlem Globetrotters pull off as upset victory over the Washington Generals

    1. LOL

14. I’d be careful if I were you West. If successful those drone attacks on Russia proper may lead to a response on Western cities. I know if I was a Russian watching my people die because of Western aid to its proxies in Kiev. I would take more than a dim view of Western intelligence operations. Which was originally responsible for the current situation to begin with. Sooner of later there will be a price to pay for that Western involvement.

15. …And almost certainly, Israeli Intelligence. WWIII isn’t starting itself, people! Don’t worry, I’m guessing and don’t know anything. (Sarcasm)

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