US Army Secretary Christine Wormuth said this week that the US must prepare to win a future war with China over Taiwan by beefing up its military deployments in the region.
“I personally am not of the view that an amphibious invasion of Taiwan is imminent,” Wormuth said at an American Enterprise Institute event, according to Voice of America. “But we obviously have to prepare, to be prepared to fight and win that war.”
Wormuth’s plan would involve sending more troops and advanced weapons into the region, including hypersonic missiles. She said the buildup would be an effort to deter war with China, although Beijing has been increasing its military activity in the region in response to US actions.
Wormuth laid out three ways the US Army would work to build up forces in the region. First, by increasing cooperation with allies, which she said would “complicate” Beijing’s decision-making. Second, the Army will establish “theater distribution centers” to pre-position weapons and other supplies in the region.
She listed Australia and Japan as two places where weapons could be staged and said non-lethal equipment might be stored in the Philippines and Singapore. The third aspect of the plan would be to place more visible combat forces in the region. “Our goal is to have Army forces in the Indo-Pacific seven to eight months out of the year,” Wormuth said.
When war breaks out in the region, Wormuth said the Army’s role would be to establish “staging bases for the Navy, for the Marines, for the Air Force” and to “provide intra-theater sustainment” using the weapons stockpiles and watercraft. She said the US Army would also have a role to play in the American homeland.
“If we got into a major war with China, the United States homeland would be at risk as well, with both kinetic attacks and non-kinetic attacks. Whether it’s cyberattacks on the power grids, or on pipelines, the United States Army, I have no doubt, will be called to provide defense support to civil authorities,” she said.
When asked if the American public could sustain the level of casualties that would come with a war with China, she said they could, just “like we did in World War II.” But both the US and China possess nuclear weapons, meaning a potential war could be catastrophic for the entire world.
Wormuth is the latest US official to openly discuss the fact that the US is preparing for war with China. Earlier this year, a four-star Air Force general predicted the US will be at war with China within two years and ordered his forces to be prepared. “I hope I am wrong. My gut tells me will fight in 2025,” Gen. Mike Minihan, the head of Air Mobility Command, said of war with China in a leaked memo.
“win a war” … yeah ok.
How about we learn how to wipe our asses first.
The US is at a crisis point. If Russia thrives and feeds and Supplies Europe and other countries with Food and Oil,the US loses markets. This can not be tolerated by the Masters of Mankind.In the other case as China gets stronger and appears to be helping and unifying Africa another prospective market shot to hell. What are the rapacious Capitalists going to do? The outcome is clear. The rulers of the Us have no interest in sharing. It is our way or the Bus. It does not matter that the planet is at risk and stake If the US can’t rule no one will.
Favor a bottom up approach
It’s too complicated LL. We need a bede.
Christine is so dumb she doesn’t even know that we don’t have Supersonic missiles but China and Russia have them. Russia has Hypersonic missiles that will sink both of our Aircraft Carrier Groups in the first 5 minutes of this “War”, plus all of the support vessels, and finally, she doesn’t even know that our supposed allies on Taiwan were beaten like a drum in the recent elections and that the majority has no interest in disconnecting from China.
This is the Clown 🤡🤡 🤡 Show running the “State Department 🤣 🤣 🤣 .
uncle sam doesn’t need supersonic missiles because uncle sam has god on his side.
just ask any american.
That reminds me of George W Bush saying God told him to wage war on Iraq.
Putting the “hype” in hypersonic. We have plenty of weapons too. I read a piece that suggests a hypersonic missile can be fast or it can be accurate but not both. At hypersonic speeds a plasma is created around the projectile that effectively kills radio so guidance systems can’t use gps and radars and radio don’t work. To use that stuff the missile has to slow down till the plasma goes away.
The pixie dust argument…
Good point.
However.
You can guide, hypersonic missiles.
The US Air Force could guide their Sprint ABM missiles. And they could do Mach 10.
And that was in the 1970’s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprint_(missile)
America does have supersonic missiles.
I think you meant ‘hypersonic missiles’.
And, btw, the US Air Force started testing their own hypersonic missile.
But you are right about the vulnerability of the Navy’s carriers.
Their Aegis radar cannot (apparently) track hypersonic missiles.
Us couldn’t sustain the small amount of deaths in Afghanistan and Iraq. The authorities do not have any trust of its people and people r deeply divided. If thousands start dying either initial rally around the flag will crumble and us will need to cut and run or public rage and us leadership hubris will cause us to use tactical nukes leading to Armageddon.
Sick! I have nothing against diversity, but does she realize that her 2 daughters may end up nuked as a result of their Mom’s hard work? “When war breaks out in the region, Wormuth said the Army’s role would be…” as she points at her slick color matched power-point presentations…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Wormuth
“…We have to fight and win that war…”
As they said in Vienna in summer 1914 – and many other times.
https://patternofhistory.wordpress.com/
This is the 2025 Budget battle.
Thank you Garrett.
As you so succinctly observe, it’s all a pile of mouth-flapping nonsense. Prepping for the final desperate chapter. The stripping of the putrifying corpse of the Old Republic in anticipation of the funeral rites. Witness the end of the American Empire.
There will be no war with China. The catastrophic failure of the Neocon “Ukrainian Gambit” will bring the dissolution of NATO. Europe will throw off the parasitic vassalage of the hegemon and embrace the Eurasian future. The United States will sink into destitution, the various political and identitarian subtribes will feed on one another, the elites will huddle in their gated fortresses, and perhaps, with a little luck, the neocons will be fed into the chipper.
Taiwan is not Ukraine. The Chinese are smarter than that. And they are patient. They will not be impressed — much less provoked — by the noise. And when the dust has settled, and the hegemon is no more, they will get back to business with their fellow Chinese on Taiwan, and nature will take its course.
I can’t help thinking that you are overly optimistic.
I hope you are correct and the world finds peace and agreement instead of War,Destruction and extinction. But given the love of war profits in the US I have grave doubts about our.chances.
In decades to come….. after we finally find clean water and uncontaminated food sources, the few thousand undamaged that are left will gather around the camp fire and look to the stars and blame the unseen Gods. Eventually, their cave paintings will be interpreted and clearly indicate we were all mushroom farmers.
Why the rush to get into a shooting war with Chinan? why not resolve the issues with talks and agreements.? Could it be that that the Capitalists,Imperialists and Militarists of America are not willing to share equally the bounty of the Earth and live peacefully with other Nations ?Is it possible that the rulers of the US do not believe in equality especially for people of different races and colors as in White Supremacy needs to be supported and enforced? Does no one see the pattern of behavior of the US.? First it was the Native Americans,after that it was the millions of Africans imported to work the cotton fields of the South. Then we fought a war with Mexico for land.Beyond that period we killed each other for profit.Further down the line we acquired the Phillipines.We got in WW1 without a good reason.Thank you Woodrow Wilson.We probably would not have fought the Germans if they could have found a way because the Nazis has a lot of supporters in the US.But Rooseveldt cut off Japans OIL and the rest is History.The Korean Conflict and Viet Nam speak for themselves.Then a bunch os Saudis blow up the Trade Towers and we go into Afganistan,the wrong culprit. We rectify this twice and wreck the MidEast possibly forever.Then Afganistan again and now Ukraine. What is the matter with America that it can not let people live in harmony or God forbid fight their own wars?
She’s a special kind of stupid. Is what she is.
What chance does the US have against China, unless it factors in the use of nukes? And even then.
So we’re talking conventional war only — what are the objectives?
If the US objective was to e.g. invade, occupy, and rule the People’s Republic of China, US chances of success would approach zero.
If the US objective was to e.g. prevent the People’s Republican of China from invading, occupying, and ruling Taiwan, US chances of failure would approach zero.
But the latter equation is beginning to change, and it’s plausible to assume that within 25 years or so, the PRC will have fielded a blue water navy and amphibious capability that might potentially even things up somewhat.
The US objective is to use Taiwan to weaken China’s ability to stand in the way of US global hegemony. And in this contest, as far as the US is concerned, Taiwan is expendable.
China’s objective is not so much to rule Taiwan, but to prevent the US from placing offensive military weaponry in Taiwan that would again threaten China.
And US involvement makes it much less likely that China’s reunification with Taiwan will be peaceful.
China definitely wants peaceful reunification with Taiwan. But, I agree, they don’t want the United States to make Taiwan into their proxy. I’m not so concerned about China’s objectives, because they don’t act in my name and with my resources. What they do in Taiwan is between them and Taiwan. But I am concerned about the US’s objectives, because they are acting in my name and with my resources. The US has absolutely no business meddling in the South China Sea. Their objectives have nothing to do with the well being of the people of Taiwan.
Good thing my bladder was empty when I read the headline, or I’d have pissed myself laughing.
China has fifty times the population of Afghanistan and Iraq, not to mention an air force, a navy, nuclear weapons, and an industrial base larger than the US. And it would be fighting on its own turf instead of 10,000 miles away. People like Warmouth are some combination of stupid, lying, and insane.
Another POS heard from!
“But both the US and China possess nuclear weapons, meaning a potential war could be catastrophic for the entire world.”
She conveniently left that out of her grand vision. But maybe both sides will only use “tactical” nukes.
“The smallest tactical nuclear weapons can be one kiloton or less (producing the equivalent to a thousand tonnes of the explosive TNT). The largest ones can be as big as 100 kilotons.”
“Deployed tactical weapons in Europe can have explosive yields up to 300 kilotons, or 20 times that of the bomb that destroyed Hiroshima.”
Jesus Christ, how about NOT getting into a war with a China that will kill MILLIONS on both sides, destroy our economy and turn Taiwan into rubble. That is, if the nuclear bombs don’t start flying and destroy all life on Earth.
Our neocon “leaders” are all death cultists who will stop at nothing until they get us all killed.
How many Americans would it kill?
That is the only thing of political importance to the warmongers in charge. If even that.
And only for reasons not related to them giving a damn.
USA hasn’t won a was since WW2?
Grenada! Panama! Kuwait.
Could not handle Afghanistan, but think they can best China?
They must be losing their minds…..!!!!!!!!!!
“When asked if the American public could sustain the level of casualties that would come with a war with China, she said they could, just “like we did in World War II.” This isn’t 1945 and we don’t have the military troops to take on China. Although I could be wrong, I don’t think most Americans are going to rally around the flag and jump on board signing up enmasse to fight a war in a far off country in which they would be cannon fodder. Fighting a war with the woke military that we have against a country that could lose several million people and not blink an eye is insanity and kind of brings to mind ‘Caeser crossing the Rubicon’ which would most likely lead to the U.S. using Nuclear weapons as it will become apparent that they cannot win a war against China in their backyard.
So, it’s the wokeness of our military that won’t allow us to win? Sure, why not.
Not just the wokeness but it doesn’t help when you’re going to be fighting a war against a nation that could give a rat’s ass about gender and race and promote people on perceived competance and not whether or not they fit the progressive narrative.
I did 3 years in the 70’s. I assume there is still basic training and AIT or something similar. I would also assume that you still have to meet the qualifications for whatever MOS you pick. I just think the blaming of wokeness as the reason for any military decline is way overblown. As far as promotions go, if you kiss enough ass you get promoted. Simple as that. I would assume that also hasn’t changed much since the 70’s. But no doubt about them trying to check boxes at the same time. But a kiss ass is a kiss ass is a kiss ass. Woke or not.
Just a little bit different from when you were in. https://taskandpurpose.com/military-life/vast-majority-americans-20s-unfit-military-service/
You sound like a foreign agent trying to destroy the US from within.
Bad news is: you and your team are succeeding 🙁
…..and compared to other combatants our casualties were light.
Pipe dreaming. The USA has a big ocean to cross and ships do sink in these days of missile technology.
China will have the home field advantage. Their ships can fire a load of missiles and return to harbor and do it again every 5 days, our ships can do that every 3 weeks.. For the price of one super nuclear sub that can strike anywhere in the world China can build 3 or more super quiet subs suitable only for coastal defense. 3 on 1 who is going to win?
In WWII we were attacked by Japan. Only idiots wouldn’t know the difference between an elective war that goes against our professed agreements with China, and WWII.
War with China seems like the dumbest idea ever. You go pick on the little guys, not the big guys. Playground rules
It is extremely good news that the US Army is preparing to “win” a war with China, as opposed to preparing to “lose” a war with China.
Delusion is strong with this woman.
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The well honed policy of poking other nations in the eye to provoke a response which can be used to accuse them of unprovoked aggression has got to stop.
everybody on the entire planet is the bad-guy
with the exception of uncle sam
You forgot the saintly Israel.
What happened to the obligatory sarcasm indicator? [/S]
There will be no “WINNING” in any war with China. Just death and destruction on all sides. It is the same fools who squandered our primacy in deterrence on the terror war leading the charge while Russia and China had almost two decades to get way way ahead in rocketry to hypersonics. While we spent the time ferreting out every Muslim who was too radical. Now the bill comes due..Trillions squandered & two decades of progress in great gamenship lost. Never will we get back the money or the time. It’s too late, or over.
The profiteers ALWAYS win, the people ALWAYS are the losers.
The trillions ended up in the pockets of billionaires and trillionaires and more is on the way.
It would be folly for the USA to discount countries that will side with China; and there are many.
She’s just another bureaucrat appointee. I would like to hear what the serving military personnel have to say about war with China. But, I’ll never hear that, and neither will anybody else.
Imagine If China Did To The US What The US Is Doing To China
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Notice the similarities of US and Israel long term goals – both pursue goals of an even greater state regardless of the cost to humanity.
That’s what states do — constantly attempt to maximize their discretionary power, both domestically and abroad.
State evolution is always in the direction of Mussolini’s “everything within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state.”
At any given time, some states pursue that more successfully than others, but it’s the direction all of them are always headed in.
Not all states – I’m rather surprised that you made the suggestion.
It’s only the US and the Israeli apartheid state that bomb other nations at will and even harbor ambitions to carve them up into smaller and far more manageable vassal states.
Remember how Europe was supposedly ”liberated” by the US after the 2nd ww – Almost all European nations have become Washington’s submissive and obedient vassal states.
The US has developed quite a history of orchestrating regime changes and coups plus these latest lie based wars of aggression.
So here’s the thing…The US does not consider other nations a ”Democracy” unless they privatize their state owned assets to their masters who’ll snap them up with credit created out of thin air.
However as with most things there’s far more to this – So if interested I’d recommend this brilliant article by the late Robert Parry Free Markets’ Defame ‘Democracy’ [Consortiumnews]
From The Plan to Carve Up Russia By Mike Whitney – [lewRockwell]
Ugh. This shit of talking about our inevitable war with another nuclear rival while we are still swirling inwards towards war with Russia.
Fuckers aren’t just evil, they’re stupid too. Keep your mouth shut until you’ve finished the eschaton we already have at home.
Karl Marx……Workers of the world unite; you have nothing to lose but your chains.
They are preparing for war, they do not prepare to win. Its important that the billionaire class get richer, that happens win or loose. The billionaire class are parasites who are gorging themselves on the host (working class). The billionaire class will destroy America and move on to another host.
The working class will die in huge numbers so the billionaire class can own plantations across the planet (Hegemony).
U.S. Also preparing to find buried treasure in Montana that will pay the national debt!
Hypothesis: Washington DC has been invaded by a virus which rots the brains of politicians and their military brass. Apparently the virus dissolves the gray matter and replaces it with raw sewerage. I decided this based on the verbal effluvium which pours from their oral cavities.
Its not a virus…….its money.
I agree that these folks are rewarded with money. But their rot goes far deeper.
I dont believe the rot is any deeper. Vast sums of money = institutionalised, endemic, global corruption.
We need to place limits on peoples wealth to limit the corruption they can do.
Meanwhile, AG Garland travels to Kiev to give Ukrainian peons tips on how to dispense political justice to all opponents of the installed Dictator.
The US Army may be preparing to fight China.
That is not the same as preparing to win.
Winning is a lot more than fighting.
The US military has lost 20 years of wars of choice. It has yet to win one. That it would or even could win against China is not a foregone conclusion from just preparing to fight.
This is why fighting wars is a really bad idea.
Sure, the job of the military is to prepare as best it can. But talk of “preparing to win” is inviting trouble, and whistling past the graveyard.
Examine the problems.
It wasn’t trying to “win” those wars either, much like a mob enforcer shooting a target in the face is trying to “win” a fight. The goal is to use up munitions and spend trillions more; secondarily to break any nation that does not follow our international diktats. Winning would involve some geopolitical resolution beyond leaving a failed state behind (who sells oil in dollars, of course).
Lets change the name Wormuth to Warmoth.
To understand the deranged Biden administration we have to admit to ourselves that the owners of the MIC own the wealth of the nation. They govern in their own favor only at the expense of the people. Neoliberal economics serves their needs see the train wreck and the consequences in Palestine, OH.
To think a train with 150 cars including highly toxic chemicals, maybe 3 miles long, right through the middle of town along main street with only about 3 engineers on board of the train, and the response of the officials.
It is about as rotten as it gets.
Given Biden’s two-China policy, which China are we going to win a war with? My vote is for the war with the Taiwan China.
If there is a war it will be because WE (the usa) started it.
It would never cross her pea sized brain not to start another war.
Why do they want a war with China, could it be that they are well connected with the MIC? Austin was on the board of Raytheon is he still on a retainer now?
For several weeks the daily ‘clobber report’ by the Russian Defense Ministry reported some 350-400 Ukrainian soldiers killed per day along the whole frontline. On Thursday that number increased to 640, stayed at 640 in Friday’s report and increased to 880 in today’s report. 490 of those were reported in the Bakhmut area.
Bakhmut is in operational encirclement, soon to be a physical cauldron. The Ukrainian soldiers in Bakhmut are left with only two options: surrender or die.
So should Russian Defense Ministry “clobber report” numbers be discounted by 90%, or only 50%?
You tell me, you seem to be the oracle of all information. By all means post your more accurate numbers.
I am guessing that your option is for the drafted conscripts to die. After all they are just Ukrainians right?
You’re not a very good guesser. My option is for people to stop murdering each other in support of their respective street gangs / death cults.
I don’t pretend to have accurate numbers. The reasonable assumption is that the Russian MOD numbers, like the Ukrainian and US regime’s numbers, are composed of roughly half wishful thinking and half propaganda.
There is a solid foundation for the Russian MOD figures, example….they add 1 more fighter shot down, when you check on LiveUAMap they also show a Ukrainian fighter was shot down.
Be nice if US would stop murdering anyone, including their own in my opinion. I still remember Madeleine Albright saying the death of half a million Iraqi children was worth it. After they lied us into that war.
“Why”?!
The US fleet would be gone in no time , they have admitted the fact that US carriers can`t get close enough to China to launch fighters and get them back before they run out of fuel , China`s hyper sonic missiles cover vast swathes of the pacific and are all most unstoppable , and any land bases the US sets up will become a target before a ounce of earth is moved .
“Fight and win”? They couldn’t “fight and win” against the Taliban, what makes them think they could “fight and win” against a near-peer military?
Zelenski of course got voted into power on a peace platform. The total betrayal of the working class in Ukraine is no different than anywhere else in the western world.
The Russian MOD is fighting a very successful war of attrition disarming NATO (Ukraine was disarmed in March), tank by tank, artillery by artillery, air defense by air defense.
NATO overall has accumulated the following equipment losses;
394 Aircraft, 216 helicopters, 3336 UAV’s, 409 Anti Aircraft systems, 8162 tanks inc. APC’s, 1050 multiple rocket launchers, 4282 rocket launchers and 8746 military automotive equipment.
What the empire looses in the Ukraine, they loose for the final Russian attack on NATO. Remember Russia attacked Ukraine just as NATO was about to unleash in the Donbass. Russia has shown they will pre-emptively attack to defend the Motherland when the time is dictated by events on the ground.
Idiot.
America needs to beef up it’s economy.
Not it’s military.
At their respective levels of growth?
Within 50 years?
China’s economy will be far more powerful than America’s.
And they will be able to outspend the US militarily.
Leave it to a SofS to say something as imbecilic as he just did.
When pigs fly…