The Pentagon is planning a major expansion of the number of Ukrainian troops that it will train in Germany and aims to start the new program in early 2023, US officials told The New York Times on Thursday.
The expanded program will enable the US military to train up to 800 Ukrainian troops each month, a battalion-sized force. The US has been training Ukrainian forces in Germany and other undisclosed locations in Europe since earlier in the war at a rate of about 300 troops per month, according to Pentagon statistics.
President Biden has already approved the new training program, which will take place at a US Army base in Grafenwoehr, Germany. Previous training efforts have been focused on using specific weapons systems, such as the HIMARS rocket systems. But the new program will be more advanced and will include battlefield tactics, such as coordinating infantry maneuvers with artillery support.
The US training program will reflect what Ukrainians have been going through in the UK. The British military started the program in the summer with the goal of training 10,000 Ukrainian troops in infantry tactics.
The new US training program reflects the ever-increasing US involvement in the war in Ukraine. The US is set to open a new command center in Germany that will be entirely dedicated to arming and training Ukrainian forces, signaling that Washington is planning to support a proxy war against Russia for years to come.
In the year 2525…..if man is still alive…..
Aye, there is the rub…
Do we have two Analyzers? Didn’t you have a different avatar photo before? if so, do you just appropriate people’s photos?
Very astute! I will appoint you as the President of the official Analyzer groupie. You’ll get a cool jacket for your service.
Send me the invite. I will then take someone else’s photo as new avatar.
We have three Don Bacons, two under Psudonyms Don Julio and Lemonie Alpaca…. Who R you to question authenticity…….?????????????.
We have one Don Bacon, one Don Julio, and one Lemonie Alpaca. Their writing styles differ and they post from different IPs. The evidence that they’re the same person is:
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“Eve of Destruction”…………………..
These Neocons seem 2B right on schedule….!!!!!!!!!!
“US Will More Than Double Its Training Program for Ukrainian Troops The training will take place in Germany with the goal of training a Ukrainian battalion each month”
Ukraine is losing 10,000 troops a month on the battlefield. Soon there will be no Ukrainian men remaining to train.
If we say that you are right, then Ukraine will be losing 120.000 men per year – you might know that Ukraine has a similar population to France at the start of WWI – the French lost far more men for every month for 4 years in that war – given that Ukraine stand to lose more than the French would have lost had they not been on the winning side in WWI, it seems likely that Ukraine can last as long as France did.
Yes the war will drag on until the last Ukrainian is dead and Zelensky flees to one of his estates with his stolen fortune provided by the US.
If Zelenskyy was half as bad a dude as you make him out to be why on earth did Putin not just bribe him? Moreover are you sure that the Russians want to fight 4+ years for this they seem pretty worried about their own lack of motivation already:
But he’s a good “dude” … he luves the attention of the Sean Penns and the other Hollywood and Vogue types. He wants both the money and the love, you see …
Russia’s war here is not a choice … with or w/o Putin, this will continue until they have achieved what they can. We know this too, but don’t mind a new Afghanistan in Europe … you Europeans might.
While I’m not happy to have Ukraine serve as Putin’s Afghanistan I respect that you at least see just how pointless it could very likely turn out to be for the Russians to think they can beat the Ukrainians backed up by the richest parts of the world.
The problem with this is that, as verified by Kiev sources in an article I linked yesterday, the West is being bled dry of weapons very rapidly. We also have less ability to replace our losses.
Just In Time business practices are GREAT for maximizing corporate profits. Not so good in crisis situations. In the meantime, a lot of the rest of the world is turning away from the US and towards Russia.
Result of the Price Cap? Logistical issues for Russia. Causing Russia to cooperate with multiple nations to resolve these issues, bringing them closer together.
In the long run, it would serve US interests better if we responded to actual reality rather than the one they are selling to us.
Not being bled dry of weapons but of shells for the weapons.
JIT is a good point – the rest of the world turning away from the US and towards Russia is an undocumented assertion – what evidence I can dig up suggests that even some of their CSTO allies are turning against the Russians:
https://www.businessinsider.com/russian-ally-kazakhstan-ukraine-war-2022-11?r=US&IR=T
Difficult to say so far the price of Ural oil has been below the cap so it has not been an issue. The figures for Russian exports will only be available later.
I beg to differ.
They should bring @disqus_WeTAwDV20k:disqus to this show. She will fit perfectly.
You can start with the film “Ukraine On Fire” and then watch analysis from Scott Ritter and Col. Douglas Macgregor. This will give you an understanding of the stakes involved in Ukraine for Russia.
I do not need to know the stacks involved in Ukraine for Russia – the Russian youth seems to need to know.
Not to mention the steaks.
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“US Will More Than Double Its Training Program for Ukrainian Troops”
US Defense Secretary: Added recruits ‘urgent’ to reverse ‘dangerous’ fall-off of Ukrainian and Russian body count in Bakhmut
The only body count in Bakhmut that us immense and tragic is Ukrainian. Why are Russians not allowed ntering the city? The place has become a cheese Rusdia holds out for Ukraine to move in more trouos, Russia’s aim is to demilitarize, Ukrainian aim is optics -/ they are “holding off” Rusdians.
To make mattters worse — Zelenski is all out against majority faith, Otrhodox Christians.
We know that all of his regime power is in hands of West Ukraine Catholics, But he seems to ignore that his cannon fodder are the majority, and with each passing day, they hate him more. So, what is next? Where are his soldiers comming from? We kniw that Poland already has iver 5,000 casualties, with over 1,500 dead, Tge info came out after Polishbauthorities recommended US style military cemerery, and that caused a scandal.
“The only body count in Bakhmut that [is] immense and tragic is Ukrainian.”
Dunno, I read range of reportage and analysis, including some you perhaps base yr view on (moa? duran?). Read/watch all w/grain of salt – fog of war and propaganda. All govts have reasons to lie about war. Dif reports/analyses mention and omit dif things. Honestly hard for me to gauge truth – my overall sense is deadlock, w/high casualties on both sides, govt lies on both sides…
…unless anti-war forces can mobilize emergent existing public opinion (which in many countries has shifted to favoring negotiation vs ‘the US’s weapons-only-anti-negotiation foreign policy), this looks like another’ forever war (not claiming originality here)
Everyone wants or predicts a ‘breakthrough’ or political collapse on one side or other forcing settlement…v the ghastly ‘endless’ war of attrition it looks like to me…
This is a joke, right? Someone please tell me this is a joke. 10,000 soldiers here, a battalion there … woohoo. Meanwhile thousands of soldiers are dying each and every week and the Russians haven’t even gotten going with their real weapons yet.
That’s the point. To get Russians to “get going”. The strategy is to escalate without engendering your home base. When there is much casualties and destruction, you can maintain a better bargaining position.
Are you implying when all of ones troops are dead, they can make the best deal. In which world is this?
No, I’m saying they are trying to piss off the Russians.
Yours are the words of a fish…..!!!!%
Why? Zelenski is respinsible for decidions that resulted in deaths of tens if thousands of people. His decisions are driven by optics, and all Western media describes it as pluckinesd or roaring success. Yet the only sucess Ukraine had was whenever Russia decided to shorten tge front line and correct the need to defend exposed flanks. Their appearance of success has been bolstered by Russia’s consolidation of areas under its control, and having no assurances of future respect for Russian or even Russian speaking Ukrainians, its basic rights to political representation and life — annexed areas under its control. Static front allows Russia to stabiluze living conditions in those areas, from food to nedical care.
Zemenski still does what works: defends indefensible in order to sppear strong. Take Balkmut battles. Ukraine is moving in thousands of new troups to be killed. Russia is not entering tge town giving Ukraine endless opportunities to bring more troups. It is tragic and criminal. There is no need tir dramatic gransdstsnding at the cost if bringing in thousands of more. people to die.
Biut then, Zelenski has shown his colors recently by attack and harrasing Ukrainian Orthodox Churches. 75% of people beling to Orthodox faith. Yet, Zelenski’s media company that propped him to fame decently broadcast insulting “comedy” attacking Christians.
He may hope for now to get approval from tge 20% Catholic population, but that will not last. He has lost territory and permanently, as his gamble did not pay off.
Bianca, You are the best example of a cultist.
Cultist? Wow, such terminology! You mean right up there with Manson, Jim Jones, Trump and Biden? I don’t think so.
Ukraine loses that many troops in three days.
Too late, too late.
Sounds like Vietnam redux.
We have been training them for a while. No secret that we have trainers in Ukraine too. Special ops personnel too. Sending lots and lots of money and weapons, which Ukraine will have to pay for in the form of vital services privatized after the war finally ends.
Since Antiwar won’t report this, I’ll help it.
Russia ‘massively’ attacks Ukraine in latest round of raids. (EARLY TODAY 16 Dec 2022).
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/12/16/russia-massively-attacks-ukraine-in-latest-round-of-strikes
One step closer to Shock and Awe. Not quite a full out war, but moving steadily in that direction.
The statements ‘we shot down almost all their missiles’ (60 / 76) were inconsistent with their reports of how much damage was done.
It also makes me shudder at how much we destroyed in Iraqi cities 2 decades ago.
“The statements ‘we shot down almost all their missiles’ (60 / 76) were inconsistent with their reports of how much damage was done.”
Not necessarily. All that “shooting down a missile” really means is that the missile hits something other than the target.
For example, if you remember the 1991 Gulf War, 27 US reservists from Pennsylvania were killed when a Patriot missile “shot down” an Iraqi Scud, causing it to land on their barracks instead of on whatever its actual target was.
In order to know whether the reports here are consistent, one would need to know 1) what was targeted and 2) what was actually damaged.
Ahh thanks for the clarification.
They also did not report what Russians claim prompted this.
Contradicting the idea that Ukraine has a missile shortage:
new news from G. Doctorow, from last nights Russian, Evening with Vladimir Solovyov. there were also at least two or thre other golden nuggets about Syria and recent changes at the top of the Chinese leadership under Xi, all of which are pro-Russian and anti-Western:
“….Otherwise, the number one Ukrainian topic of the evening was the unprecedented Ukrainian rocket and artillery attack the day before on the provincial capital of Donetsk, which received more than 150 incoming missiles, many from US-provided launchers. None of the blasts was directed against military targets; all struck residential buildings, markets, social infrastructure buildings at morning hours when there would be a maximum of people in the targeted structures or open spaces.
Photos from the scene of destruction were put up on the screen and included images of the main cathedral of Donetsk, whose cupola was struck directly by one missile; this was held up as one more demonstration of the ‘satanic’ nature of the Kievan rulers, whose intent was clearly to traumatize the Donbas population.
There were more than a dozen deaths and a great many injured among the civilians from the latest Ukrainian barrage. The conclusion which Solovyov’s panelists reached from this reign of terror that has gone unreported by Western media is that it is high time to wreak destruction on the city of Kiev, not merely on its power generation, so as ‘to wipe the smile off the faces of the Ukrainian Nazi gang.’…..”
Do you have a link to the source with the pictures?
It is Russian propaganda. It is what they believe. It is also probably 100% true.
The truth or falseness of it is immaterial. The Ukrainians are still without power, their trains carrying NATO supplies and troops to the front lines are idle, USians mostly believe it is totally false, and Russians believe it to be true
As in US politics, everyone has their own version of the “truth”.
If it was 100% true then surely they would have provided the pictures to document it!?
I could not say if it was/is true or false just based on what the parties claim, but if we look at the effects, then if the trains carrying supplies and troops to the front lines were idle then surely we should expect the Russians to be able to advance at a somewhat increased pace from what they could muster before the power was cut?
What we are seeing does not support the idea that the Russians are as superior in firepower or that the Ukrainians are as powerless as your Russian propaganda implies, unless we are to assume that the Russians would waste this supposed opportunity to finally take Bakhmut while the Ukrainians are supposedly without adequate supplies of both arms and troops.
I see the Russians attacking quite fiercely on the Donetsk front, but I do not see the Ukrainians as substantially weakened – sure they are losing territory but the pace has not increased since about August – and had the power cuts limited supplies then it ought to have.
Vladimir Solovyov Lol. That is sick man.
The Russian MOD is disarming NATO (Ukraine was disarmed in March), tank by tank, artillery by artillery, air defense by air defense. What they loose in the Ukraine, they loose for the final NATO war against Russia. A war the US/NATO is loosing.
NATO overall has accumulated the following equipment losses;
344 Aircraft, 184 helicopters, 2673 UAV’s, 396 Anti Aircraft systems, 7134 tanks inc. APC’s, 931 multiple rocket launchers, 3689 rocket launchers and 7625 military automotive equipment.
NATO has not accumulated these losses – these are if true the losses that the Ukrainians have incurred – several points shows how wrong you are if you believe in this propaganda:
1) an APC (armored personnel carrier is not a tank and should therefore not appear as an item Tanks inc. APC”s.
2) No NATO (i.e. western made tanks have been transferred to Ukraine only old Soviet ones
3) No NATO (i.e. western made aircraft have been transferred to Ukraine old Soviet ones are being considered
If you want a more reliable assessment of what has actually ben confirmed as destroyed I suggest you visit Oryx
Given that Ukraine’s air force had 196 aircrafts all together in late 2021 and has not had any transferred how do you explain the claim of 344?
https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/32040-fact-check-has-russia-destroyed-the-ukrainian-air-force
“A war the US/NATO is loosing.”
They need to tighten up, declare marshal law };-)>
The Pentagon is planning a major expansion of the number of Ukrainian troops that it will train in Germany.
Yeah, I hear they’re naming the training camps alphabetically
Kamp Azoz
Kamp Bandera
Camp C.I.A.
Kamp Donetsk
Kamp Einsatzgruppen
The ADL issues statement declaring Ukraine’s Azov Battalion no longer ‘far-right’ again. Even the source below denounces this absurdity. https://thegrayzone.com/2022/12/08/adl-ukraines-azov-battalion-far-right/
https://www.israel365news.com/352294/adl-defends-ukraines-nazis/
If and when the Russians are gone, the neo-Nazi brigades there are planning something very bad for another group, and our stolen wages will train them to act out their hatreds and ethnic cleansing agenda.
The ADL Issues Statement Declaring Ukraine’s Azov Battalion No Longer ‘Far-Right’. https://thegrayzone.com/2022/12/08/adl-ukraines-azov-battalion-far-right/
Again, the ADL defends those who will eventually seek to persecute Jews if and when the Russians are gone. Even Jewish media denounces the American ADL. https://www.israel365news.com/352294/adl-defends-ukraines-nazis/
How much of our tax money was given to the ADL to make such an absurd statement?
cmon in the fishing is fine….
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They did the same in Vietnam / Afghanistan , it didn`t help their puppets win did it .