National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan on Sunday threatened that the US would respond if Russia used nuclear weapons in Ukraine and said Moscow would face “catastrophic consequences.”
“If Russia crosses this line, there will be catastrophic consequences for Russia. The United States will respond decisively,” Sullivan said on NBC’s Meet the Press.
Sullivan didn’t detail exactly what the US response would be, although his wording suggests that the US could carry out a nuclear strike on Russia, which could lead to a nuclear exchange that could kill billions of people. But there’s still no sign that Russia is preparing to use a nuclear weapon in Ukraine, something US officials acknowledged in comments to The New York Times.
Sullivan said that the US has “spelled out in greater detail exactly what that would mean” in private messages to Moscow. The Washington Post reported that the US has been warning Russia over the past few months through backchannels of grave consequences if Moscow uses nuclear weapons. But the report said the warnings were intentionally vague.
Sullivan said that the Biden administration has been in frequent contact with Russia, although there have been no recent public high-level meetings.
Sullivan’s comments came after Russian President Vladimir Putin warned Russia could use nuclear weapons to protect its “territorial integrity.” Other Russian officials have made clear that the warning applies to territory Moscow will likely absorb after the referendums on joining Russia being held in Russian-controlled areas of Ukraine.
Despite the soaring tensions and talk of nuclear weapons, the Biden administration has shown no sign of backing down on its support for Ukraine.
Nuke hysteria is necessary — West, US in particular, needs a new strategy. Russia just allowed those Russian manority populated areas an opportunity to exercise their right to self determination. It took eight years for Russia to intervene, During which time itvwas shown beyond doubt that Kiev regime had no interest in treating this population as equal to others. Kuev’s crimes are well documented.
For nearly three months friont was stable. But no movement in diplomacy, Both sides took advantage if the respite. Ukraine and West to rearm. Russia to shore up civilian infrastructure of Russia. majority areas under its control. Everything from utilities to banking, local government, food supplies, payments of pensions, security. Much of the reserves will be deployed to support the region. And free up military.
It is anybody’s guess what happens next.
I am concerned that all the nuclear noise is to preparre population for its use by The West. After all, installations of missile defense in Romania for example can within minutes be equipped with offensive nuclear weapons, and thousands of miles range
Something Russia is well aware off.
Don’t lie to yourself, the LOUD nuclear threats have been coming from Russia since February. If you cannot admit that, you have lost objectivity.
What happens next? Ukraine is going to continue defending its land, taking casualties of course but delivering significant losses to all the tired Russian soldiers and the new batch of cannon fodders. It’ll only stop when Putin pulls out.
False, you are lying. Russia is not threatening to use nuclear weapons.
But the Zelensky regime has been shelling the Zhaporishia power plant, while lying and saying Russia shelled it. Even Western media now admit the truth after the UN inspectors arrived there. Gonna mention that?
Also been shelling the Donbas region for several years.
DJ, you are right pain in the ass….
“Hey, get out of our echo chamber! We only want to hear people who agree with us here!”
What do you want, a blog where everybody agrees with each other, hold hands, and tell each other we are all right about our thoughts and ideas? That would be a boring blog in my opinion. Even the Kremlin’s number one Russian State TV show started to have disagreement with the leadership.
It’s the reason the Russian War effort is so messed up. No one has the balls to tell Putin they are losing plus it doesn’t help that Putin doesn’t want to hear that.
no one wants to read your lies and disinformation. you guys must be getting pretty desperate w/ the amount of trolling going on here
Yeah, because insisting that “no one wants to read” what you’re responding to isn’t desperate or anything.
“LOUD nuclear threats”
Examples with links or shut the fuck up.
Why you hate US so much? Whatever happened to you,
Just go join the Russian Army and get your revenge.
Why are such an ignoramus? In what way did my statement even begin to imply that I hate the US?
Do you provide examples to every stupid shit you say here? Is this the court now? Why are you so butt hurt today? Are you embarrassed your Russian leaders have been playing with fire lately?
You had to come out to tell me I haven’t heard what I have heard. I have been bringing this up for months with videos and links you don’t bother reading.
So go now and do your fuckng research.
You are such a Closet Putin lover. Always showing your true colors when things aren’t going well for Russia.
In other words, you’re saying you’ve full of shit for months. Show me some links where Russia has threatened to use nukes on Ukraine. But no, just right back to the “Putin lover” nonsense. And if I say something that isn’t an opinion, I’ll provide you with links any time you want.
Not only is Russia aware of the Aegis Ashore installations in Poland and Romania, that in my view is the primary reason for the Ukraine operation: to eventually put Russian strategic weapons in western Ukraine precisely to counter those Aegis installations. Russia pointed out last year that those installations were within minutes of Moscow and if the US and NATO did not pull them, Russia would produce the same conditions for the US and NATO. Putting strategic weapons in a Russia-compliant Ukraine would achieve that, at least for NATO. Russian subs with Khinzal and Zircon missiles will do the same for the US.
Pretty laughable. We nukes two cities in Japan with civilians. Japan, a defeated country negotiating and end to the war. Truman. War Criminal.
Damn. That generated a downvote?
Some people don’t mind some war crimes.
This disgraceful behavior by the Biden neocons is causing real and needless confrontation. The White House has admitted that for months it has been sending “warnings” to Putin NOT to use nukes, which Russia has always insisted it would NOT do (unlike the USA) unless in existential danger, which the USA of course is trying to impose. Same as with the needless goading of China just to ensure there is no peace.
Exactly, the talk about nukes has constantly come from U.S. officials. What Putin said in his speech was simply that if the U.S. used WMDs, including nukes, then Russia had the means to defend itself. This is now turned completely around.
And that’s how you counter BS Russian Nuclear threats.
Nope, you are lying once again, Russia has not threatened to use nukes, they simply say that they will defend themselves if the U.S. uses nukes. Now go on to the next lie, off you go.
I know a threat when I hear one, especially from World Leaders.
You sound like religious people interpreting the Bible. You can pick any line and say God meant something different.
The Biden administration has refused to rule out first strike use of nuclear weapons. That’s OK because the right to do that was apparently grandfathered in when the USA dropped 2 nukes on civilian targets in 1945.
Careful. The official line/propaganda was that “we were forced to nuke the civilians to save lives.” Now, “we are forced to destroy the entire world to save Ukraine.” (s)
Of course. You have to kill by nukes a lot of civilians (in a country that was already beaten and starving) in order to save them. Earlier, the giant human barbecue in Tokyo and Hamburg, I guess you had to fire bomb civilian targets in order to keep them from freezing.
Orwell would have understood the ‘logic”.
And the number of lives saved has grown quite handsomely over the years. Later we destroyed villages to save villages. So, in essence, the 20 million we’ve killed since WW2 quite probably saved upwards of 100 million lives. Hence our indispensability. /s (better make sure).
US Warns of ‘Catastrophic Consequences’ If US Uses Nukes
LOL.
It is official Russian policy to use nukes first in certain circumstances: as it is the policy of the US. Proponents of Deterrence Doctrine say that nuclear weapons kept the peace in the Cold War because of the escalatory or retaliatory consequences if used. But the “circumstances” were also right: today they are not. And every empire eventually faces the conflict it is trying to avoid – as history warns.
https://patternofhistory.wordpress.com/
Russia has not threatened to use nukes, Putin in his speech simply noted that U.S. officials have threatened to use WMDs, including nukes, and if they did so then Russia would have the means to defend itself.
This has been twisted around, so that now the media and politicians pretend that it’s Russia that is talking about nukes first. As usual from the Left.
Putin started that part of his speech by noting that the Zelensky regime has been shelling the Zhaporizhia power plant for months. While they lied about it and claimed the Russians were shelling the plant that they themselves were holding, and with which they were still providing electricity for the Ukrainian side. The UN inspectors confirmed that it was Zelensky’s military that shelled the plant. Western media admitted this but buried it as a footnote and then never mentioned it again.
It was Boris Yeltsin who reversed the no-first-use policy that Brezhnev introduced in 1982. That has been the policy ever since, as far as I am aware. In an interview with TASS in April 2019, the Russian Ambassador to the United States, Anatoly Antonov, is reported to have said that the Russian Federation would use nukes first ( if the Russian state was considered under existential threat). First use nonetheless. Successive US administrations have chosen not to adopt a no-first-use policy.
Blinken’s threats tell the Russians that they must launch a decapitating strike on the US, if they launch at all. He presumes they won’t. He is threatening thus to take this to full scale mutual suicide.
Of course, he thought Russia would not dare go big on this invasion. FDR thought Japan would not dare go big in the Pacific War. There is a long history of fools like Blinken getting this wrong, a history of his own personal failures, and of others like him.
I do not think a strike on the US is necessary. Just follow the US Playbook in WW2 and Nuke Kyiv. There will be NO action from the US.
That’s such a nice ANTIWAR thing to say here.
NO action from US? Dream on it.
While perhaps a Non Nuclear response, there will be a massive conventional one and will mean your Russia’s shit army will be completely out of Ukraine very quickly.
Neodon once again talking as if it’s Russia that would use nukes, when they are simply responding to U.S. threats of using WMDs.
You don’t say anything about Zelensky shelling the Zhaporizhia power plant, which has now been established, after the media lying for months and saying Russia shelled the plant.
Gonna mention that? No? Not interested in which side it is that is trying to cause a nuclear disaster? Okay.
“You don’t say anything about Zelensky shelling the Zhaporizhia power plant, which has now been established, after the media lying for months and saying Russia shelled the plant.”
That’s because I have zero evidence on what’s going on down there. But do know that Russian’s artillerymen conduct most of their fire missions unobserved and they have zero concerns for whatever Nuclear Powerplant catastrophe in Ukraine.
Additionally: During the IAEA visit to Zhaporizhia, inspectors noticed a missile still on the ground was clearly half buried in an angle consistent with an incoming missile shot from the Russian side. The Russian Officer stated that missiles change into an opposite direction before it hit its intended target. That was an absurd answer. I called in airstrikes in my Military days and can say that missiles, rockets, and other ballistic ordnance, do not do that.
Lastly: You find me ONE nuclear threat from the West between February and August and I will find you 3-5 from the Kremlin per everyone you provide.
Don, you’re being silly. They’re only anti-war when the war involves the U.S. Russian wars are fine!
I need to remind myself that.
Three consecutive posts by the Don Bacon, Don Julio,
Lemony Alpaca lie factory, Even has himself talking to himself “Don, you’re being silly. ” Apparently he has abandoned his Don Bacon persona after it started to collect so many negative replies. This is the guy who accused Bianca of posting while drunk, but never produced any evidence of her supposedly drunken commentary. If anyone is posting while drunk it is more likely him & his Lemony Alpaca iteration being silly, not one of the most apt & knowageable & posters on this site. Its absurd and deserves to broadly condemned.
You’re obsessed 😂 if you honestly think people are making up troll accounts and talking to each other just to fool you into thinking there are THREE WHOLE PEOPLE on this site who don’t toe the pro-Russia line, that says quite a lot about your level of paranoia.
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Russia will not nuke anyone, the strategy is to bleed NATO out in Ukraine. The aims are Disarm, DeNazification which appears to be going very well.
Its a war of attrition that Russia is winning. If NATO continues along this path it will be destroyed along with EUrope.
‘Cry ‘Havoc!’ And Let Slip The Dogs Of War’ When Julius Caesar lies dead. Marc Antony will have his revenge.
O, pardon me, thou bleeding piece of earth,
That I am meek and gentle with these butchers!
Thou art the ruins of the noblest man
That ever livèd in the tide of times.
Woe to the hand that shed this costly blood!
Over thy wounds now do I prophesy—
Which, like dumb mouths, do ope their ruby lips
To beg the voice and utterance of my tongue—
A curse shall light upon the limbs of men.
Domestic fury and fierce civil strife
Shall cumber all the parts of Italy.
Blood and destruction shall be so in use,
And dreadful objects so familiar,
That mothers shall but smile when they behold
Their infants quartered with the hands of war,
All pity choked with custom of fell deeds,
And Caesar’s spirit, ranging for revenge,
With Ate by his side come hot from hell,
Shall in these confines with a monarch’s voice
Cry “Havoc!” and let slip the dogs of war,
That this foul deed shall smell above the earth
With carrion men, groaning for burial.
Doom Sternz, you bring class to this website!
What Putin said in his speech was simply that U.S. officials have talked about using WMDs, including nukes, and if they do so then Russia has the means to defend itself. This is now turned completely around.
He started that part of the speech by noting that the Zelensky regime has been shelling the Zaporizhia power plant for months, threatening to cause a nuclear disaster. Something even Western media now admit because of the UN inspectors, after for months repeating Zelensky’s lie that it was Russia that shelled the power plant they themselves held. But of course Western media just mentioned it in passing and then buried it.
“This is now turned completely around.” Exactly… I remember several disturbing video clips of POWs getting shot in the knees from the early weeks. Now, the newly released POWs all over western MSM claim they were tortured by Russia. I say, “let’s check them knees?”
Again completely misrepresenting what Putin said. Making it sound like Russia threatens to use nukes in this war. That’s false.
Putin started by mentioning that Ukraine has been shelling the Zhaporizhia power plant, something even Western media now admit after the UN inspectors have confirmed it, but they buried the news quickly. Putin then said that U.S. officials have talked about using WMDs, including nukes, against Russia, and he said that should they actually do so then Russia has its own weapons and can defend itself.
So he simply said that if the U.S. used nukes first, then Russia would use nukes.
Yet this is completely “forgotten” by the media. And now they pretend that it’s the U.S. that is responding to Russia talking about nukes, when it’s the other way around. That’s what happens when the media and the politicians, all the way up to Biden, are liars.
Best channel on propaganda: https://truthinthenews.info/
Russia warns of catastrophic consequences if Amerikkka employs nukes.
““If Russia crosses this line, there will be catastrophic consequences
for Russia. The United States will respond decisively,” Sullivan said on Meet the Press.”
The most hatred person on earth, Joey Biden. He is a di(k along with obama.
Tell us something we don’t know. With the little boys in the Biden Administration, things could go realllly baddd.
So what’s wrong with over a billion life lost and a permanent shift in East/West scale of powers? The meek will inherit the earth, and shall delight themselves in abundance of peace.
Always look on the bright side of life…
We were born to witness the collapse of modern society. Short of an UFO landing on your lawn, enjoy the moments for they are not meant to last.
Russia is already wining its main objectives in Ukraine conventionally and does not need to use nuclear weapons to achieve them…!
Says the only country in the world who has nuked someone. Twice.
The again, most Americans probably aren’t even taught about Hiroshima and Nagasaki thanks to our failing education system and the whitewashing of history.
Huh? My three kids certainly all know about it, and my youngest is 11.
Also, that was nearly 80 years ago. A lot of countries did a lot of bad things 80 years ago that nobody thinks is a good idea now.
“A lot of countries did a lot of bad things 80 years ago that nobody thinks is a good idea now.”
More recently: Viet Nam. rather recently: Yugoslavia. very recently and curently: Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen, Syria to name a few.
Right now: Ukraine.
Note that the above were accepted by the Western nations populace as not bad things or necessary or whatever rational was most effective for the warmongers current con. It wasn’t until much later the the truth came out. Some of the truth is still not out yet..
Says the only country in the world who has nuked someone. Twice.
The again, most Americans probably aren’t even taught about Hiroshima and Nagasaki thanks to our failing education system and the whitewashing of history.
Ever get the feeling we’re being pre-propagandized for the we had to nuke them to prevent them from maybe nuking someone possibly so we scorched them from the earth to save them…
Yeah?
US is spinning the narrative as it threatens Russia and China with its nuclear weapons.
Mexico has a peace plan. The more we talk about it, the more the combatants and enabler’s hypocrisy is put on-the-spot.