According to a report from Axios, Israel used a recent visit from Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley to pass messages about Iran to the incoming Biden administration.
Israel opposes Joe Biden’s plan to work with Iran to return to the 2015 nuclear deal but has yet to open formal contacts with Biden’s team. Milley could stay in his position beyond the transition period, so the Israelis see him as a potential conduit.
An unnamed Israeli official told Axios that Israel expressed its opposition to Biden rejoining the nuclear deal to Milley while the general visited the country last week. “We stressed that the starting point of any talks with Iran is much better for the US today than it was in 2013. What is needed now is to be tough in order to get a better deal,” the Israeli official said.
Israel’s stance on the nuclear deal, known as the JCPOA, is a non-starter for negotiations with Iran. Tehran has made it clear that they have no interest in talks before the US provides sanctions relief. Iranian officials have repeatedly said that Iran will quickly come into compliance with the JCPOA if the US lifts sanctions.
The Israelis also told Milley that Biden should be more open to relationships with Saudi Arabia and the UAE, despite human rights concerns. The Israelis hope Biden continues the normalization deals started by the Trump administration.
Saudi Arabia, the UAE, and other Gulf states are also opposed to Biden’s plan to revive the JCPOA. The Gulf states are hoping to be involved in future negotiations between Iran and the US. Iran is in favor of dialogue with its neighbors but believe the US should stay out of regional talks.
Our little welfare buddy lookin to get a seat at the table, but won’t be joining the deal or the NPT. Just trying & mostly getting what they want by pulling string’s and hidden largess… The “Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff should be a “No Strings Attached” Military Man, not any gopher for the nation’s No. 1 Welfare Queen. Maybe Jeffrey Epstein was the guy who arranged all their free acquisitions of our billion dollar aviation assets. Does anyone reading this stuff wonder about what type of quid pro quos guys like him have arranged with our taxpayer funded money and military assets?
Just Israel dragging a willing US deeper into the Zio swamp.
The most profitable things Israel has ever learned to make is shared enemies for itself and for the USA
Arrest Milley for treason, revoke his citizenship and send the POS to Israel.
Send him to Iran or Syria.
“The Israelis also told Milley that Biden should be more open to relationships with Saudi Arabia and the UAE, despite human rights concerns.”
Why not? We overlook their budding apartheid.
If your neighbors are trying to kill you, then you put up a fence-no “apartheid”, merely self defense.
The budding apartheid I referred to was about Arabs, or non Jews, living in Israel that don’t have the same rights as the Jews living in Israel which was formally made into law. But nice try.
“The nation-state law was approved by the Knesset in July 2018. It defines Israel as the “nation-state of the Jewish people” and adds that “fulfilling the right to national self-determination in the state of Israel is unique to the Jewish people.” It also downgraded Arabic from an official state language to one with “special status.”
Certainly, these actions were very stupid. However,Arab citizens of Israel have more defacto rights than Arabs living elsewhere i the region.
The question was whether Arab citizens had the same rights as Jewish citizens in Israel and the answer is no. But thank you for the standard deflection.
“Standard Deflection”? Only a child thinks things are perfect. The Israeli society is factious and imperfect, as any society is-European Jews vs Mideastern Jews vs Ethiopian Jews; rich vs poor, pacifists vs militants. Go to youtube-most Israeli Arabs want a better life, but they would not want to be part of a Palestinian state-they know that they are safer and less oppressed in Israel than in Palestine.By the way, show me a perfect democracy or a perfect society.
And none of that changes the fact that Arabs have less right than Jews in Israel. That is ALL that I am saying. Prove me wrong. You deflect deflection with more deflection.
You want a perfect world, well so do I, but it aint gonna happen.
Is that a way of saying Arabs have less rights than Jews in Israel? Because you seem to keep skirting around the only point that I was making.
A Hacked up Post journalist means nothing. Zilch.
Budding Apartheid…??? Maybe well maturing, but budding….?? Hardly just budding, the native non Jews have been second class entities since the founding of the Zionist State. Theý have been ethnically cleansed, their villages razed and hounded into exile by gangs of government abetted thugs like the Stern gang. Their many dislocations are not budding, but ongoing expulsions & nothing
new or “budding” in fact the “new
Budding as in growing. I like using marijuana references. Sue me.
The Israelis oppose the Iran deal? You don’t say. Well, that is a big surprise to everyone I’m sure, and it is really sneaky for them to be passing back that message via the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs.
Come on, this is not news. It is automatic, every single chance they get. News would be if they did not do this.
“Really sneaky”? This is how society and countries operate. Biden does not have to listen.
But he will. Remember when Bibi spoke before the joint Congress, without notifying President Obama that it was going to happen and when it did, Obama/Biden did absolutely nothing.
Is that not manipulating members of Congress? Is that not rat finking our President?
True and another advantage is that the Saudis can provide us lots of contacts with terrorist groups to work with. Bibi is a swell guy.
Backstreet communications occur between countries all the time.Sometimes even private citizens are used. No big deal.Its up to the recipient to evaluate these communications.
Hmmm
Ignorance and stupidy is one thing, but outright lying in order to aid and abet a Felony and treason is something else all together.
First and foremost here: General Milley is in direct violation of UCMJ if this information is true. Which means he should be placed under arrest and Court Martialed.
Second: Again if true, every single individual who is participating in this blatant attempt to undermine the foreign policy of a sitting President is in violation of the Logan Act and must be placed under arrest. Remember until he is actually sworn in, both Biden and every member of us cabal are private citizens.
And for those members of the Biden Cabal who are dual citizen israel’s it is hard not to find that they are committing treason as well.
It’s only ” hard not to find that they are committing treason” if you have no idea what that last word means.
Hmmm
I consider any country that kills American Soldiers, Sailors and civilians to be the enemy. I consider any country which carries out espionage including but not limited to attempting to breach above top secret Military and civilian targets, blackmail, extortion, and assassination to be the enemy. I consider any country which actively and directly attempts to interfere with our electoral process to be the enemy. Israel has done and continues to do all of these things against the United States and the American people.
And I consider any “American” who aids and abets such countries to be traitors. What do you think “Treason means” Tommy.
It’s not a matter of what I “think” treason means. It is legally defined in the US Constitution, and it is defined in terms of war. Treason has been a legal impossibility to commit since 1945.
Hmmm
You are absolutely right. And the endless act of aggression committed by israel against America including: The Lavon Affair in 1954, the attempted sinking of the USS Liberty and slaughter of US Sailors in 1967, including strafing them in open war after they were forced to abandon ship as well as the sinking of life boats, Johnathon Pollard’s Mossad operation stealing an entire room full of America’ vital tactical ans strategic defense plans which israel sold to the Russians setting back our defense posture for nearly a decade, israel’s 9-11 attack against NY confirmed by the “Dancing Israelis” on the day and later on Israeli TV, 2016 dual Citizen Jared Kushner’s attempts working directly with israeli agents to directly undermine the foreign policies of sitting President Obama, Now Joe Biden’s crew doing essentially the same again with israel, this time directed against President Trump. Etc., etc.
These attacks against America, each and every one of them, constitute Acts of War under US and International law. Only treason in Congress and the White House prevented what should have been an immediate retaliatory attack against Tel Aviv in each of these cases. We can debate the term “treason” in the context of the Constitution all day long Tommy, but no one is going to argue that the endless hostile acts of aggression by israel against the US for the last 70 years are those of a an “ally, let alone a “close alley”
Q: When is the United States at war?
A: When Congress so declares.
That last happened in the early 1940s.
Which is why all treason prosecutions since World War Two have been for actions taken DURING World War Two.
If Congress declared a state of war to exist between the US and Israel, then aiding and abetting Israel versus the United States would be treason.
But they haven’t, so it isn’t.
The Logan act refers to unauthorized negotiations. Making requests, or putting one’s desires and positions forward, are not negotiations.
Explain how Milley violated the UCMJ.
Inform us as to who the members of the so called “Biden cabal are, and who are dual citizens.
Hmmm
No my friend you explain how what Biden and company is doing DOES NOT violate the law without resorting to the suspension of logic, critical thinking and common sense….. Bearing in mind that until they were caught it was being done in secret. As for the General it is my understanding that he was acting outside the authority of his chain of command….
LOGAN ACT:
“Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directlyor indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply, himself or his agent, to any foreign government or the agents thereof for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects. “
Very good.So then every lobbyist dealing in foreign affairs in Washington should be prosecuted, as should any foreign citizen making a request Now explain to me who these dual citizens are?
Hmmm
I would be happy to indulge you here but: I have been repeatedly handed short-term bans on this website for going down that road. So I will refrain from any comment beyond saying that that information is in the public record. Have a great day.
No, you have never been banned for discussing dual citizenship.
Hmmm
I have been banned for discussing issues directly related to this one Thomas. (The question of dual citizenship, the impossibility to claim loyalty to 2 countries, the national security implications of that inherent conflict which in the US means the result of grossly disproportionate numbers of Jewish “Americans” who are also israeli and/or act as such. Think Jared Kusnher in the White House and Chuck Schumer in Congress) You have banned me repeatedly for this line of commentary.
To the best of my recollection, you’ve never been banned here, period.
You certainly haven’t been banned here for discussing dual citizenship, nor has anyone else. It’s a frequent subject of argument on the site.
Hmmm
At least 4 separate occasions that I can recall over the years. And to the best of my knowledge I did not engage in personal attacks, foul language etc. anything that was a “violation” As I rule I usually refrain from this kind of thing on general principles.
I believe I have saved some of the pages from this site where DISQUS informs me I have been banned here. I will see what I can find.
You have never been banned at Antiwar.com for discussing “dual citizenship.”
That’s a fact.
You don’t have to accept it.
It’s a fact whether you accept it or not.
Aw shucks, they are picking on you
The Logan Act was passed in 1799.
To date, in 221 years, a grand total of two people have been indicted under it and none have ever been convicted.
Which is probably a good thing from the point of view of those who support it. It’s unconstitutional on its face and would almost certainly be voided as such by the courts if a conviction under it ever went up on appeal. Its only utility is in being potentially scary. If it’s ever used, it stops being useful.
Hmmm
First, regardless of how often it has been enforced, it remains the law of the land. Furthermore, it seems quite clearly these individuals violated it. And until such time as it is stricken from the books it remains the law of the land.
Jay walking is on the books in most municipalities across the country. It is rarely enforced, but from time to time it has been successfully used to prosecute citizens…Selective enforcement of the law, happens every day. And yet all those “laws” being “selectively” enforced remain on the books….
I find it incredibly ironic and hypocritical that it was in fact it was then VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN that first raised the specter of the Logan act with regard to General Flynn. And that was in fact the publicly stated justification to open a full blown investigation of the General. Joe Biden publicly articulated his belief that Flynn had violated the Act and should go to jail on several occasions.
If the ACT is “unconstitutional on its face”, how in the world has it managed to survive 221 years?
For the Record, in 2016 I has was screaming bloody Murder that Trump and his cabal of Flynn and Kushner had violated the Logan Act.
Speaking of selective enforcement: I am willing to bet that most of the people defending Biden’s treason are also defending his willingness to openly violate the right of the people to keep and bear arms without infringement…..
Biden is “President-elect”. He will be sworn in on January 2, 2021. Biden did not have any authority to present Milley as a courier, and, I do not believe he did. Milley’s boss is President Trump (for twenty something days).
Hmmm
If true, members of his staff and of course Gen Milley have surely at the very least violated the Logan Act. Which means Joe Biden & Co. have committed multiple felonies and should be placed under arrest. As I recall it was the Democrats going after Trump and his incoming staff for doing the same thing. They got arrested….
Oh, and if Biden is “innocent” then why hasn’t he turned Milley and his staff members into the authorities for violating the Logan Act? Not to mention that as a member of the Military Milley is committing an Act of treason by attempting to undermine his Commander in Chief with a foreign power.
Is it no longer treasonous for our officials to collude with foreign governments? Wasn’t that what the Democrats were concerned about with Lt. General Flynn and the Russian ambassador?
The Israelis know that Western establishment policy thinking has for a while felt the need to abandon them and shift policy and resources to China. Israel and the fake sheiks have been magnificently armed (“vietnamized”), and need now to take over the job themselves. Its only vested institutional interests -AIPAC and the arms industry- on account of their death grip on the political class and media retarding this shift.
Biden and Bibi think that Iran is going to negotiate with them? 😂
Israel is not a part of the last agreement or the one that may happen. Israel can just butt out.
F&ck Israel and Milley.
What a golden opportunity to tell Israel (including AIPAC et al) to butt out and mind their own business. We can do without their whining, complaining, interference and political blackmail. Stay out of our kitchen!! Enough = enough.