How does the US get Russia and China to the negotiating table? Senior administration officials came up with the idea of carrying out the first US nuclear test explosion since 1992, and this conversation is still ongoing.
Carrying out nuclear tests is a hugely provocative move on the global scale, and yet the Trump Administration thought it could “prove useful” in trying to get Russia and China into trilateral nuclear talks.
This probably was also informing the administration in accusing, without evidence, both Russia and China of conducting nuclear tests in secret. Global monitoring makes secret tests all but impossible, but alleging such tests would be cover for the US to do it too.
Officials said the December discussion on the matter didn’t end with any agreement to conduct a test, but that it is an “ongoing conversation” that they keep going back to as a possible idea in response to supposed threats from Russia and China.
If the US carries out new nuclear testing it can hardly complain when North Korea or any other country wants to do the same
Ah, but we are the Exceptional nation–or so I’m told.
American Exceptionalism means never having to follow all the rules you expect others to follow, never having to obey the treaties you signed, etc.
it wasn’t easy to get in the position of being exempt from international law and never be subject to any prosecution in that international court in the hague. that is for the little countries who haven’t been able to attain any actual long term success in running their affairs.
Almost right. Court is for countries we invaded.
Actually, it was ridiculously easy. Just a juxtaposition of resources, time, and blind luck. The US won the civilization lottery, and is squandering it fast as possible.
not only can we complain. we can stop them from doing it because we can.
May be we should test. Nuclear facilities. Just recently converted from floppy disk technology. We have not broken ground for a nuclear power plant since seventies and added inly two reactors to existing plants. I hope we can test it safely — for our sake.
Wanna bet? Don’t you know that the US is priviledged above all other countries! Do as we say not as we do.
Everyone nuke testing is definitely something to complain about…
He’s incapable of mulling squat!!!
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America is the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today(mlk-67)and also the largest exporter of terrorism and has been since the 50’s. Why do you think we protest too much at Iran? Goes back to 53, a guy named Mosaddegh(Akin to our founding fathers) and the cia’s first great ‘successful hit’. People like Che are molded by the inequiteds of colonialism,racism etc that is exported under a polluted flag,cherry-picked bible ,bullied by testosterone-juiced https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a6443674858b542e0c3cbcbe63e81549320515bef49a4ecdfd9ad0cc49214118.jpg patriots with guns, ego and lust
So true. What borders on stupidity? Canada and Mexico.
How to spin this one? Oh yeah. Hillary would already have us in a nuclear war by now. Or, Obama started new wars. Or, Trump is just playing good cop versus bad cop with cop being the code word for nukes.
You fergot 4d chess to eliminate the deep state and enact world peas
China is not signatory to any significant arms limitation treaty.
This is a real problem, and China has ignored it, saying their nuclear forces are not significant.
While its true China has limited capabilities now, treaties are meant to safeguard the future. Eurasia is to have a big place in the future; leaving the China back door open is a serious oversight.
Its imperative that all nuclear-armed nations enter some sort of international regulatory framework – including Israel, which is also edging towards Asia.
Washington DC would be a good place for the test.
If only it were the REAL source of the problem. Not meaning to infere tha Russia or China have the “full spectrum dominance malady that seems to drive this type of thinking, negotiating and behaving!
The success of the Cold War in avoiding nuclear Armageddon will not be repeated.
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I am a bit more positive. Swamp loves to live and enjoy spoils of their loot. They will not take a risk — they want their victims nice and weak.
But here is the dilemma: those that are weak are not worth it — and those worth it — are not weak.
The Trump admin. is still at the “lets measure who has the biggest” level.
And you thought he was going to drain the swamp…..lol.
There is an expression that in a conflict between tractor and a swamp, swamp always wins. He should have been less of a tractor and learn how to walk on water.
It is not that he really hates swamp
— some of his best friends are the creatures of that habitat.
The problem is — he does what he feels like doing — making them all look stupid. He cannot stay on script and thus he scares them even when he does not mean to!
He cannot win — but the swamp has no peace day or night.
The only “swamp” spanky was ever gonna drain was anyone not willing to be a toady to trump.
That’s actually a fair bit of swamp…
What “threats from Russia and China”? There have been no threats from Russia or China. The US rhetoric is getting more and more scary. The real question is does the US military want to carry through with these US provocations?
No, the U.S. is hoping the other side does something stupid they can capitalize on.
If not, then they might try something.
Right now China is being tested. China has announced plans to introduce new security laws against Hong Kong, and removed the word ‘peaceful’ from its annual statement about reunification with Taiwan. Neither of these acts and implied conclusions threaten the U.S..
Unfortunately for peace, Hong Kong already belongs to China, while retaking Taiwan concludes the Chinese civil war.
China cam make the claim it has the legal right to act on those territories. The U.S. has so degraded the framework of international law its tough to make counter arguments as those that could be made are based on ‘pounding the table’, not the facts.
Allegating? Is this the real Joseph Ditz? That whole paragraph needs to be rewritten, it’s dreadful.
So how does Russia rattle the cage of Trump and EVERY General and Admiral in the United States at exactly the same time……….. Let of a Tsar Bomb just this side of the Alaskan coastline, they will feel its affects all the way over there in Washington DC.
Yeah, then every Ring of Fire earthquake thereafter gets blamed on Russia….
Why is the world full of nuclear weapons? Could it possibly be that when We the US did the unthinkable and used the bomb unnecessarily, the rest of the world knew they could no longer trust us and were no longer safe, they needed a deterrent, to this day.
Big blunder, Testing allows others to catch up to us. The test ban made it much harder to develop nukes as it all had to be done with pure engineering and simulation, never any chance to actually check the work in reality. Which introduced uncertainty into the process. We just surrendered a big competitive advantage. Oh it will be easier for us to develop weapons as well but we are actually OK for nukes as it is.
Nationalism is both retarded and deadly.
Russia needs nukes to dissuade the US/NATO from attacking and destroying them with conventional weapons as they did to Libya.
Sadly true; nukes have kept the peace between the ‘great’ powers.
Not that they haven’t gotten imaginative with proxy warring and espionage, but direct hot confrontations are a thing of the past.
China is not signatory to any significant nuclear arms limitation treaty. Neither are India, Pakistan, or Israel. The entire Cold War I treaty framework is archaic; a U.S.-Soviet centric world no longer exists.
All nuclear-armed nations enter some sort of international regulatory framework.
Trump is right to try and pressure China into an arms treaty, but he seems blind to the fact that China isn’t the only growing power with nukes. China isn’t going to be blind to U.S. nuclear-capable allies not restrained by treaties any more than Russia is.
U.S. pressure tactics like ending treaties before there are new ones even on the drawing board, is kind of reckless.
Its like a recipe for failure, as if the object is to lure China (and Russia) into an economically crippling arms race instead. But the U.S. is an economic cripple already, even without an arms race.
You have a real valid point here, Brockland. China’s not a signatory to any significant nuclear arms limitation treaty .. Neither are India, Israel, nor Pakistan. Yes, the entire Cold War I treaty framework is, indeed, archaic, since a US-Soviet centric world no longer exists, as you rightly stated. All nuclear-armed nations enter some sort of international regulatory framework.
I totally agree that US pressure tactics like ending treaties before there are new ones even on the drawing board, is sort of reckless. It’s like a recipe for failure, as if the object is to lure China (and Russia) into an economically crippling arms race instead .. However, the US is already an economic cripple, even without an arms race. DJT sorely needs to put an end to this recklessness.
Thank you Russophobic nutjobs for promoting a crazy conspiracy theory for the last 3 to 4 years that Trump was somehow an asset of the Russians. Now we get Cold War II. I hope you’re happy with what you got.
Naw, they’re to greedy for that. Throw in China, then India if they don’t get on board against China and Russia.
As if their nutjobbery was responsible for Trump’s drooling idiocy …
Russiagate shares partial responsibility for pushing US foreign policy to this insanity.
Interesting how Trump (and his supporters) proclaim complete presidential discretion in foreign policy — then blame everyone else for Trump’s foreign policy.
I don’t excuse Trump from his failures and I’m speaking as someone who voted for him. His favoritism towards Israel and the disastrous outcome of that policy is HIS fault (and Jared Kushner as well) as well not ending and expanding these Mid East wars. I’m not delusional. When it comes US/NATO aggression towards Russia you can’t discount the backlash effect of Russiagate which has FUELED Russophobia in Congress the Senate in particular has passed numerous sanctions bills often 99-1 or 99-0 with only Rand Paul and sometimes Mike Lee being the sole nay votes. And yes I don’t deny that many people in the Trump administration have pushed that same line. But not a single Democrat has pushed back on that notion with slight exception of Tulsi Gabbard (who ironically endorsed Joe Biden who was a big champion of the very endless wars she denounced as a candidate). In the Senate it’s even worse. With exception of the issue of Iran every Democrat Senator is a protector of NATO and pusher of anti-Russian aggression even supposedly antiwar Bernie Sanders. Just as an FYI if Hillary had won things would stand exactly the same if not even worse since she advocated a no-fly zone in Syria.
Congratulations. You’re more honest and thoughtful than 99% of the Trump voters/supporters I see discussing Trump and foreign policy here and elsewhere.