In a Monday Tweet, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu thanked President Trump for declaring Iran’s Revolutionary Guard as a terrorist organization, saying that he had personally requested Trump’s move.
Netanyahu said that the move would keep the world safe from Iran, and would also serve the interests of Israel, saying he was glad Trump “acceeded to another one of my important requests.”
Netanyahu’s emphasis that this is all his idea, and Trump is giving him everything he wants, is clearly being done with an eye toward Tuesday’s election, as he attempts to convince voters that he is able to get concessions out of Trump no one else could.
This Tweet was only made in Hebrew, likely intending to avoid US officials believing it makes Trump look weak. Getting the far-right Netanyahu reelected is clearly something Trump is keen on, but its unlikely he’ll want to give the impression that US policy is being dictated from Jerusalem.
We are living in a sick and dangerous world, where greedy and power crazed people are in control. I despair for humanity.
Just picture a “robot” controlled factory making robot soldiers programmed to wipe out humans.
Well, first it will be the non-gated humans….
Who is the Boss now?
Meet the new boss, SAME as the old boss. Does anything change? They lie to get elected and then it’s business as normal.
This might be Donald Trump’s last chance to gift Sheldon Adelson,his favorite John.
All of the media will be just fine and dandy with this.
More PROOF US Foreign Policy is DICTATED by Israel and if you don’t agree you’re a dirty rotten anti-semite.
No, it is not dictated by Israel, but Israel is an ally, and this is just stating the obvious – Iran supports terrorism (so does the U.S., but that’s another discussion). You can criticize Israel all you want but making up facts isn’t a convincing argument.
What kind of ally does 911 to us? (right click) https://www.google.com/search?q=dov+zakheim+9%2F11&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS755US755&oq=dov+za&aqs=chrome.2.0j69i57j0l4.6035j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Israel did not “do” 9/11. That would be suicidal. And dumb.
Disagree it was a Paul Wolfowitz wet dream, one he discussed here: Many of the events, have actually come true. They wanted the US as a global constabulary, totally unburdened by the UN or world opinion, preventing any challenge to US dominance. That too has been demonstrated in Iraq. But the Most incriminating fact is that their “Wish List” was written a year before the September 11. The exact wordings of the document concerning an all-out war, tacitly against Islam, include a “launching ground” and read: “Such aspirations are unlikely to be realized without a catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbour.”And you are probably correct that Israel did not do this but neocons did in defense of ISRAEL.
1) Paul Wolfowitz did not control U.S. policy; George Bush did. If you are referring to the “Project for the New American Century,” it was started by William Kristol and Robert Kagan, not Wolfowitz. However, it is just a document; the people who make the decisions are the oligarchs who control the United States – including the oil industry and the military-industrial complex. Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld are all part of this group. People like Wolfowitz are not decision makers; they are facilitators/enablers. The document was just a tool; it is the people who use the tool – the oil companies and their friends – who have the power and who make the decisions. Of course.
2) I have never seen anything “tacitly” against Islam in the New American Century document; can you provide a link?
3) Your statement that “neocons” did this [the 9/11 attacks] in defense of ISRAEL” is not supported by any credible evidence or even common sense. Many neocons were not in government; none were in a position to exert the vast influence necessary to plan, cause, and cover-up 9/11. While the official version of 9/11 seems incomplete, blaming neocons lacks any credible evidence and would seem literally impossible, based on the facts and common sense.
Irving Kristol was wolfowitz mentor>It was the ideology behind the Iraq War and Occupation (through not just Bill Kristol but, more directly, Paul Wolfowitz), after all, not to mention behind the promotion of American global hegemony (through PNAC, the Bill Kristol- and Kagan-founded think tank). It is obvious why bush was president, he couldn’t put a sentence together let alone construct foreign diplomacy. The Aipac crowd was replete with $$ and a good percentage of reps. Here reads like the names say>https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2000/10/top-50-political-donors-2000/ These are war criminals that promulgated genocide or strategically referred to a “transition” in the middle-east. And so roots terrorism. https://israelpalestinenews.org/oil-for-israel-the-truth-about-the-iraq-war-15-years-later/ 999 how does any man or government take innocent lives for $$. No defending this outcome, It looks like greedy insanity. Last sentence is evident when investigating crime the usual motive is profit. Anyone who has followed the money knows double indemnity is hard to come by, even larry>Just months before 9/11, the World Trade Center’s lease was sold to Larry Silverstein. Silverstein took out an insurance plan that ‘fortuitously’ covered terrorism. After 9/11, Silverstein took the insurance company to court, claiming he should be paid double because there were 2 attacks. He won, and was awarded $4,550,000,000.
So, your proof that Israel was behind 9/11 was that an American (Larry Silverstein) took out an insurance policy against terrorism at a site that had recently been the target of a terrorist bombing? Sorry, that makes no sense at all.
you have limited yourself to thinking “one group” bears responsibility
Like many Americans, I find the official story of 9/11 flawed, so I am open to actual information. If you have any, please feel free to share it.
Aww, come on, you know those al Qaeda guys flew the planes. Oh, and stay tuned, tho I havnt touched a baseball in 45 years, I’m gonna throw a no hitter at the World Series this year. It’s possible, right ?
As I said, there are loose ends, but clearly there has been anti-US violence from Al-Qaeda for years before the WTC attack (including the 1993 bombing of the same structure, although technically that wasn’t Al-Qaeda but whatever), and Bin Laden is reported to have developed a strategy of a massive US attack that would draw the US into attacking Muslim nations, which is a reasonable strategy for uniting the Muslim world. While there are certainly plenty of lies around, there is also plenty of evidence to support this, but I wish they would tell the whole story. Also, good luck with the World Series.
Israel is not an “ally” of the United States. It’s just a particularly demanding welfare queen client of the United States. There’s a difference. Alliances work in two directions, not one.
how is isn’treal an ally? perhaps you need to refer to the dictionary for the meaning,
1) Israel has been certified as a “non-NATO ally” of the United States since 1989. Check with the State Department. 2) Israel projects U.S. military power in the Middle East; when the U.S. invaded Iraq, Saddam Hussein did not have a nuclear reactor there, because the Israeli’s had destroyed it. Same thing probably happened in Syria. 3) Israel provides advanced military technology to the U.S. military, such as helmet display and tank technologies. The U.S. military is not dumb; they recognize a good source and take advantage of it. 4) Israel provides advanced computer software support, such as the Stuxnet virus, and probably a lot we don’t hear about. 5) Israel supports the battle against Islamic extremists, with intelligence/information and other means. The “other side” (Palestinian Arabs) have actively supported U.S. enemies; the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was a vocal supporter of Adolf Hitler during WWII; the Palestinians worked closely with the USSR and KGB to undermine U.S. power projection in the Middle East; many Palestinians also supported Bin Laden and cheered his attack on 9/11. 6) Israel is a nuclear power, which supports U.S. geopolitical interests in the Middle East. However, if you prefer, the advanced military and computer technology could go to China or Russia instead.
5) Israel supports the battle against Islamic extremists, with intelligence/information and other means.
Like they did with ISIS in Syria? They even said they preferred terrorists over Assad.
In this respect, they are aligned with the Americans, who provided billions of dollars to the anti-Assad forces. I would agree that this policy was flawed, but that wasn’t the question – it was about the alignment of US and Israeli foreign policy. I also don’t support the grotesque House of Saud, the feckless King of Jordan, or the Egyptian dictator (al-Sissi). Further, I oppose the U.S. energy policy (pro-oil, pro-car) that makes Middle East oil important to U.S. policy makers; but, again, that’s not the issue.
Then Israel DOESN’T support the battle against Islamic extremists. The fact the US supports, or creates, them doesn’t change that fact. Thank you for clarifying that.
As I’m sure you know, alliances and enemies are fluid; we supported Bin Laden; we killed Bin Laden. We supported Saddam Hussein, we supported his execution; we negotiated with Qaddafi, we bombed Qaddafi; and so on. The point is not that U.S. policy is consistent and unchanging – it isn’t; it’s often short-sighted and lacks overall coherence, and is run by a flawed oligarchy. The point is that, once the U.S. establishes a policy, Israel has – generally – supported it. This has increased with the nexus of U.S.-Saudi-Israeli cooperation, such as it is.
Hopefully wikileaks can shed some light on the barbery committed through the 3 stooges of energy production.
Can we leave the Three Stooges out of this? Nyuck nyuck nyuck.
And none of that changes what you said. “Israel supports the battle against Islamic extremists, with intelligence/information and other means.” Except when they support the actual terrorists. Again, thanks for clarifying.
Yes, Israel follows the direction of the U.S. When Muslim fighters support U.S. interests – such as mujahideen in Afghanistan who fought the Soviets during the Cold War – then Israel cooperates with U.S. interests. When Muslim fighters attack U.S. interests – such as on 9/11 – then Israel provides intelligence and other support against them. When the U.S. is on a misguided attempt to overthrow the Syrian leader, they work with the U.S., the Saudis, and Jordan. Israel is a relatively weak, vassal state that does what it’s told.
“Israel is a relatively weak, vassal state that does what it’s told.”
That is unbelievably funny. Seriously. I know that must have been hard to type.
Vassal state my ass.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/checkpoint-washington/2010/07/netanyahu_america_is_a_thing_y.html
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2010/4/14/857154/-
“You see this napkin?” he said. “In twenty-four hours, we could have the signatures of seventy senators on this napkin.”
1) I can provide multiple examples of Israel obeying Washington’s directives. Here are two that come to mind: During the Gulf War, Saddam Hussein fired scud missiles at Israel. Any country would naturally want to respond to a missile attack, but they were forbidden to do so by the Bush administration, because it might work against U.S. interests. Israel also wanted to bomb Iran, but was blocked by the Obama administration. 2) You consider the idle boast of a failed PR flak as factual. PR flaks paid to exaggerate and are not reliable sources of information. 3) Napkins do not determine foreign – large financial interests do. That is why the $1.7 trillion oil industry controls U.S. foreign policy, while Israel, with a $300 billion economy, is a back-seat driver.
“During the Gulf War, Saddam Hussein fired scud missiles at Israel. Any country would naturally want to respond to a missile attack, but they were forbidden to do so by the Bush administration”
Interesting claim.
Before the air war wrapped up and before the ground invasion began, I was part of the security force guarding an airport near al Jubail, Saudi Arabia. Most of the traffic in and out of that airport was cargo/transport. I got some great pictures of C-5 Galaxies taking off, etc.
Oddly, there were a couple of pairs of F-16s taking off and landing with some frequency, too. I also took pictures of them.
We weren’t allowed to send undeveloped film home by mail. It had to be developed at the base PX so that anything sensitive could be censored.
When I got my prints, the ones with the F-16s were blacked out. I asked the guy why. He looked around to make sure nobody was listening, then told me “those [US-marked] F-16s are being flown by Israeli pilots. They wanted some trigger time and Bush gave it to them for their cooperation in not responding in kind to the Scud attack on Tel Aviv.”
Interesting. And at least moderately corroborated by the fact that when the war was over, the US gave the Israelis 50 of those F-16s, this time to more openly reward said restraint. And hey, a bunch of their pilots had already got in some combat time on the planes. Go figure.
Actually, there is no corroboration here. There is no source for any of these statements. It’s just speculation about a possible off-hand comment. However, if there is any truth to any of these statements, it supports the basic premise: The U.S. is in charge, Israel is a military ally. Iraq attacked Israel to provoke a response that would weaken Arab support for the U.S. Gulf War. The strategy failed because of Israeli restraint.
Yes, there is a source: Me.
You don’t have to believe me. It’s fine if you don’t.
I have no reason to dispute your claim, it’s just that it wasn’t clear who the source was. It’s an interesting story.
Of course Israel obeyed the “order” not to attack Saddam since we were doing the fighting for them. And the only reason Israel didn’t, or doesn’t, bomb Iran is because they have to be completely sure we are willing to finish that fight also. Obama wasn’t and neither is Trump. Yet. If they aren’t unarmed protesters on the other side of a border fence or kids throwing rocks, the IDF has no interest in fighting anyone.
Netanyahu is a failed PR flak? Or did you just ignore that one? And the napkin with 70 signatures of our bought and paid for senate is just one of the many links to pick from telling us about our congress’ loyalty to Israel. Keep pretending it’s not so and maybe you will even eventually believe it.
The “70 signatures” quote is not from Netanyahu. You need to check your facts now and then. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2005/07/04/real-insiders
As to “unarmed protesters” – thanks for the chuckle. Yes, clearly the Israelis should have met the mob whose leaders approve of killing Israelis with lemonade and balloons.
I know that. You ignored my link about Netanyahu saying how he could “easily” move America. So me asking if Netanyahu was a failed PR flak was just sarcasm since you went right into that without addressing the Netanyahu link.
Hamas is a nasty lot and the Israelis are no different. Justifying the use of brutality because of the other sides tactics is still brutality. But what’s a few dead cockroaches.
https://israelpalestinenews.org/oil-for-israel-the-truth-about-the-iraq-war-15-years-later/
The advanced military and computer technology DO go to China. When the US sold F-15s to Israel on the condition that the proprietary US tech on board not be shared with China, the Israelis promptly turned around and shared it with China.
Yes, Israel supports the US in pursuing operations in the Middle East which do not benefit the US but do benefit Israel. That’s not being an “ally,” that’s playing “let’s you and him fight.”
1) That is a bit of an over-simplification. I think you mean the F-16, which was being developed jointly by the US and Israel. The US dropped out of the project and China picked it up. Israel claims the only technology provided to the Chinese was Israeli; maybe they’re lying, although the U.S. has not filed a complaint against them. Either way, the plane is based on outdated 1980s technology, so it’s not a national crisis.
2) Your second statement is extremely broad and, I believe, indefensible. Can you prove that no Israeli policies benefit the United States? As a related question, if Israel offers no benefit to the United States, why would the US government support/protect it? It would offer nothing of value.
“Can you prove that no Israeli policies benefit the United States?”
Since the US has no legitimate interests whatsoever in the Middle East, and since Israel has no legitimate interests whatsoever in the United States, by definition Israeli policies (other than unilateral free trade) do not and cannot benefit the United States.
“if Israel offers no benefit to the United States, why would the US government support/protect it?”
Israel offers plenty of benefit — and plenty of threat — to US politicians, not to the US itself. “Pro-Israel” politicians can count on donations and votes from a substantial bloc of (mostly non-Jewish Christian) Zionists and from “defense” contractors who like getting the US welfare checks back from the Israelis in the form of weapons purchases. “Anti-Israel” politicians can count on well-financed primary opponents when they seek re-election.
1) The statement “Since the US has no legitimate interests whatsoever in the Middle East” seems to me to be unsupported by facts or common sense. For one thing, the Middle East (plus North Africa) hold 48.9% of global oil reserves. Much of the U.S. economy depends on oil. Yet you say that the U.S. has no interests in the Middle East, where the oil that plays a vital role in much of our economy, transportation, energy, and manufacturing is found. This also ignores the strategic, religious, and historic significance of the Middle East. 2) Equally puzzling in the statement “Israel has no legitimate interests whatsoever in the United States.” Israel and Israelis have countless interests in the United States; there are 200,000 U.S. citizens living in Israel, and approximately 100,000 Israelis living in the U.S. Israel and the U.S. have many military and business ties; the generic drug you take may be from Teva Pharmaceuticals, an Israeli generics company. So, the opening statement seems, to me, to be based on unsupported statements.
1) You’re conflating the US and Israel with the US and Israeli governments.
2) We have different evaluations of what’s “legitimate.”
If you are saying “It is my opinion that the United States has no legitimate interests in the Middle East,” then I recognize that as your opinion.
The US and Israels interests should not supercede the interests of the entire planet. The destruction of environment as US prez boasts its energy production at his “state of the union” sounded nazi. Within the week another major oil reserve country was on the chopping block and has been in the eye of capitalist greedy systems for destruction. If not Venezuela then Iran? This is where ww3 is likely and when Saudis will bomb Dimona. Sounds like a biblical “end of times scenario” so I guess, “You reap what you sow might apply here.”
Not sure what your point is. We weren’t discussing Trump or his energy policy or Biblical prophecy.
Israel is another place on the planet where great people live. A little on the egregious side, but that is what comes with constantly being on the defensive. Resources were the key to establishing the state, not religion. The Balfour Declaration where Britain gave the state to Jews stated>”His Majesty’s government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.” So far this has not worked out too well and has been the worlds problem with racist/religious slants used for and against the state creating more war propaganda under the pretense of fear. The greediest of men on this planet need to STOP the destruction, deception, and turning the world into a hell no one deserves. There is a huge population of Israelis migrating to US. But even as advocates for Israel and some members of Congress cheered a recent State Department promise to review strict entry requirements by the United States for young Israelis, a brief visit to a mall in suburban Maryland highlighted the problem that will make this review so hard: the reality of widespread visa fraud committed by young Israeli adults.
It’s a long-standing phenomenon, and one that continues to threaten a high-priority drive by Israel and its advocates in Washington to liberalize U.S. entry requirements for Israeli tourists.(immigrants)
Read more: https://forward.com/news/israel/197072/why-is-us-reluctant-to-waive-visas-for-israelis-a/ I
This really is about oil. No not “Operation Iraqi Liberation” as the state dept coined before they realized what the acronym was.
Do you really want to go with “allied with nazis” ? Daddy Bush ? Shah of Iran ? Sheesh. And “Israel projects US power into the Middle East”…somehow, you think that’s a good thing ? Oh, and the USSR was our ally too, remember ?
1) Yes, the support of Hitler and Nazism by the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was clearly against U.S. interests. The fact that the Bush family (as well as other wealthy American oligarchs, such as Ford) supported Nazi Germany does not take anything away from the point; it only means that we have problems here, as well. 2) Yes, I think that U.S. power is, in general, a good thing, as it provides economic and geopolitical benefits. Maybe you don’t. 3) The United States has had different relations with the Soviets over many generations; we sent troops to fight the Soviets after the revolution; we were allies during WWII against Hitler; we were Cold War enemies for decades. So, I’m not sure what your point is. Clearly the Soviets and the KGB were supporting the PLO to defeat American interests. They recruited and trained Egyptian citizen Yasser Arafat for the job, and spread false facts claiming he was born in Jerusalem.
hey joe dope. heres my answer to your stupidity ROFLMAO. YOU ARE A HUGE GULLIBLE FOOL OR A STUPID PROPAGANDIST. LOL LOL YOU READ TABLOID SILLINESS. HERES A QUESTION FOR YOU. what about the uss liberty?? an “ally ” does not attack its friends. and do not give me that line they had no idea. etc. they deliberately attacked the liberty and the treasonous govt did nothing
Sorry, I don’t waste time with people incapable of adult conversation. I presented facts, you have none, except bringing up an event during a war 51 years ago. If that is how you base your view of the world, then you must also hate the Japanese, the Germans, the British, the Chinese, the Vietnamese, Spaniards, Mexicans, Haitians, American Indians, and Canadians, all of whom have shot at Americans.
AGAIN,ROFLMAO ‘adult” poor boy you gave no “facts” all you did was repeat tabloid propaganda. facts are not tabloid gossip which you favor. the usss liberty was NOT during a war you moron. that fact escapes you. and that is a FACT. it was a deliberate attack on the usa, which murdered americans and the govt still has not sought justice for those men yet. isn’treal needed to be attacked in retribution. cut off all welfare to that slimy illegal state. then 9/11 would never have happened. ypou are an immature fool. bush family was FRIENDS with bin laden’s family. bin laden was a cia asset/patsy. but of course idiots who follow govt propaganda
as you do miss real FACTS1
Why not isn’t that where our economy went?
“but its unlikely he’ll want to give the impression that US policy is being dictated from Jerusalem.”
lol As if we do not all know this.
It’s not. For one thing, why would it? Further, how could it? What magic would allow Israel – a relatively weak country with a small economy – “dictate” U.S. policy? Provide some evidence.
I assume you are joking (Joe King!!) and never read any of the antiwar articles or any other site with real news.
“In a Monday Tweet, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu thanked President Trump for declaring Iran’s Revolutionary Guard as a terrorist organization, saying that he had personally requested Trump’s move.”
That’s it? A U.S. ally asks the U.S. to tell the truth, and that shows some mysterious spooky power? Also, do you believe everything Netanyahu (or any politician) says? Seems like you do.
Dictating policy. The JCPOA, moving the Embassy, Golan Heights, keeping troops in Syria. All Bibi requests. Plus begging us to go to war for them since at least “92. He may get his wish on that one yet. And Iran’s revolutionary guards aren’t terrorists so we weren’t even telling the truth.
Fake reality……
It’s called our government where every representative lined up in e-mail campaigns touting their alliance to Israel, without a mention of US citizens. All one has to do is look around it is clear. Evidence is my congressman just this week sends out notice that he has spoken at AIPAC for 23 years. He will be bringing Consul General of Israel to his next town hall meeting. To set all straight on terror.Fuck the propaganda. However the kosher refreshments might be of interest.
So, your congressman mentioned that he supports a U.S. ally and that you have a chance to interact with a representative of their government. Not sure why you find this so disturbing.
Not disturbing until you sit in feinsteins office with 20 other people and go off topic because you want to tell them what troops returning had to say about the war in 2005. You would think the plague was released. That was the fervor for nationalism then as media had trained the public. I was “let go” at my employment for speaking out. And at this particular reps meetings I was surrounded and asked for all my personal information just as I was at Lanto’s office.
By the way govs giving out big paying jobs through pace program. The contractors let me know they are IDF when I brought to their attention problems. Might not scare you but when 5 guys show up it is intimidating and somewhat disturbing.
How embarrassing.
It will not take long after Bibi is elected when he will publicly aver that Iran will have a nuclear bomb within X (just fill in) days.
puppets always kiss butts trump is a traitor.