On Monday, President Trump will officially propose his new budget plan, which calls for major cuts in domestic spending across the board, but which also seeks a large further increase in military spending, above and beyond the increases already planned.
Exact figures aren’t clear at this point, but what is clear is that the general direction of this budget is going to face major opposition within the House of Representatives, not just from the Democratic leadership, but from some Republicans as well.
It’s not just the heavily military-centric priorities that will fuel the opposition, though clearly that is part of it. The budget proposal also ditches the Republicans’ goal of a 10-year time-frame for a balanced budget.
Instead of a 10-year balancing, the new proposal envisions a 15-year time. Even that is based on projections of large economic growth that most economists say are not realistic, and potentially not even possible.
That money will be going into the US military, already the costliest military on the planet by far. The US military budget is so vast as it is, that it is larger than the next several countries combined, and it has already grown substantially in the last two years, while the other comparatively large spenders are trying to make cuts to the military to get their budgets in line.
Budget Committee Chairman Rep. John Yarmuth (D-KY) says that the plan is a “non-starter,” and that the House leadership has no plans to include the domestic spending cuts in their own plan, and effectively are going to disregard Trump’s proposal.
Prez. Trump acts the fool so many times,,still better than Obama and hitlery.
Do you realize how many times you have said that? Sooner or later you’re going to have to admit that he IS Obama and Hillary.
Why ? Because he’s from the “red team” ? Or because he worships the almighty dollar while pretending to believe in a God that would have already struck him down with a bolt of lightening if he/she/it actually existed ?
You’ve completely fallen for the delusion of hating the person to the point of ignoring the fact that the policy remains unchanged.
You’ve been trained by the media to accept whatever turd comes along as better than the last turd. Who’s Rupert gonna prop up next ?
Dave, Trump is tackling problems that Obama and hitlery never did or would have,,like Trade Issues that are killing our jobs and industry, allies that take advantage of us, cutting taxes,and battling immigration outrages, and protecting our Bill Of Rights. And,,,yes wars there is a Creator, and he loves you and wants you to come home, he will forgive your evil acts, if only you will change your ways from that point forward and see the Light.
What the f**k are you talking about? Can’t you have a conversation without bring up abortion or a creator?
wars, What is more important than halting killing babies and knowing the Creator?????
Hey Jay, wanna buy some rapture insurance ? You realize, that when you are raptured, you wont be covered by life insurance, so, you need to cover your sinning relatives thru the end times. Send your initial premium to Trump Rapture Insurance…$500, no checks. I promise to not be saved so that I remain “behind” to pay out.
Dave S. Thanks for the thought but I am not a “rapture” guy. How about you, do you support abortion while condemning war??
“support abortion” ? I will tell you this, if I believed it was murder, I would be dead right now, as I would have gone to war over the issue. That anti abortion people are not at war, just tells me they don’t really believe it’s murder, just flapping gums.
Sullivan,,OK,,,war is not murder, so support it! You sound like a hypocrite to me, and worse.
That is just plain stupid.
You seem to support war as long as the Koch brothers get their way. All your pro birth BS kinda gets revealed in places like Venezuela where starving babies fit right into the plan of using the babies as hostages in order to take over the oil supply for the Koch bro’s refinery in Texas.
You really are a willfully ignorant man Jay. You are pro birth and anti life while being pro extortion. Despite the fact you’re among the ones being extorted…….
He just wants to keep women in their place Dave. Notice non of the pro birth nuts adopt any of these babies ? Ever notice how after their born they won’t have anything to do with them until they can trick them into dying for an elite loot and pillage mission ?
ALWAYS point out to these deluded folks that they are pro birth, not pro life.
Dave, Such a silly statement,,even from you!
When the conversation isn’t about either one. You’re the one who brought up that Trump is a fool for the umpteenth time and I commented on that. And yet somehow, someway you mange to bring up more creator nonsense which you have also done umpteen times along with your crusade against women’s reproductive rights.
wars, “reproductive rights”,,you have been deceived, never compromise with evil my friend, you always lose.
That’s is what they are whether you want to admit it or not.
We compromise with evil every time we support bombing and killing people in other lands.
Mary,so you don’t believe we should do both?????
Alexis de Toqueville had it exactly right in the mid 1800’s when he wrote about democracy in America. He said, “America is great because Americans are good, but if Americans ever cease to be good, then America will cease to be great.”
Misquote from you Mary. The quote doesn’t use “Americans”, but only “America”.
Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa! I stand corrected.
And yet you voted for the anti christ !~
Dave, Anther indication of TDS!!! LOL!!
That “my friend” is reminiscent of that warmonger McCain, who would be plotting for more war every time he used that term.
Quit with the christian virtue signaling already.
dave, are you beginning to feel pangs of guilt?
The creator is unknowable in its vastness & complexity… Where did all the matter come from…????
If you are truly pro-life you will be anti-war. Trump is not at all concerned that the Pentagon can’t even pass an audit or account for trillions of dollars. Where did that money go? It’s a third of the national debt. The MIC has Trump by the short hairs.
Well, the recent tax cuts for the rich and corporate have to be paid some way – what better way than to slash Granny’s Social Security check? And try to figure out some way to tax Food Stamps too. And don’t worry about the Establishment Democrats – Nancy and Chuck will go along as long as it is the under-class that gets crushed and not “their crowd”.
I’m not rich and i got a tax cut.
You must be the one off person in the US not worth over $250mil that did then…..
John Wells, and believe me, the truly rich love you for defending their tremendous cuts – good little peasant!
The taxes actually went up for middle class folks. It’s the typical shell game of slip a dime in one pocket while fishing a dollar out of the other.
It’s also full of little hidden clawbacks that don’t take effect immediately.
The tax plan as passed gets rid of the personal exemption, but more than doubles the standard deduction. So people gain a little there.
But after two years, the standard deduction automatically goes back down to its previous level and the personal exemption doesn’t come back. Voila, tax HIKE for everyone, back to more than it was before the “cut.”
Unless Congress dumped the second change. I know they did some alterations this year.
One of the fun parts is that the Republicans found a way to soak the rich that Democrats don’t like — the SALT (State and Local Tax) cap.
High-tax states were able to have their high taxes in part because those taxes were deductible from federal income. The Trump/GOP plan capped the deductible amount at $10k. So now Andrew Cuomo is whining because all the rich people are moving out of New York to lower-tax states and leaving him with less tax revenue than he expected.
So feudalism will be with us as long as we allow the concept of there actually being an “elite”.
Pretty much.
But I have yet to see a state-based economic system which doesn’t.
Some non-state systems seem to do without an elite, but they usually don’t seem to survive for very long above a small scale and/or under external pressure from states.
Federal taxes actually did not go up for middle class folks.
I don’t worry about and am not jealous of those better off financially from me. But, I do know and like that I had to pay $1000 less in federal income taxes this year.
Most of the people who hate the tax cut, don’t pay taxes in the first place and are worried about their welfare in the form of a Earned Income Tax credit which is a tax on taxpayers that goes to non-taxpayers.
Envy and jealousy are cardinal sins, Rich. You have time to repent.
Except it’s temporary. But if you like getting duped……..
Call your Rep and make it permanent when it will surely come to another vote.
John Wells,
In my life (76 years), I have been poor and at other times well-off. I remember one year having to pay over $60,000 in income taxes. And I was proud to pay – taxes pay for our civilization. I don’t envy the rich who right now pay very little in taxes – I see them as beasts who foul their own nests. And it is the greedy rich, who vote for “No taxes on Me!” – who will lose the most when our America falls – and it will fall. Their steak is not going to taste better, just because some other wretch has nothing to eat. Envy and jealousy are sins, but pale before the truly cardinal sin of Greed
Here is how America is failing:
“A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.”
“The average age of the worlds greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:
From Bondage to spiritual faith;
From spiritual faith to great courage;
From courage to liberty;
From liberty to abundance;
From abundance to complacency;
From complacency to apathy;
From apathy to dependence;
From dependence back into bondage.”
falsely attributed to Lord Tytler
John Wells,
Spare us anymore of this conservative happy horseshit. Civilizations only last so long as it takes the criminal class how to figure out how to corrupt the system to their advantage. And that is what is happening to America now. And today’s rich are yesterday’s criminals.
The biggest conservative heap of h. hs.. – is that the wealthy EARNED it. Baloney, they inherited it. I’ve heard that the figures are that 30 to 60% of America’s wealth is now not earned but inherited. The days of Henry Ford and Andrew Carnegie are over – now it is the fortunate sons and daughters who are rich and, trust me, they are not wanting to pay their underlings a living wage or build great public libraries, or even build factories – they are living large, paying zero taxes and braying loudly against anyone who questions our system of aristocracy.
Don’t worry about us going back to “bondage” due to the rabble getting hold of the Treasury, the rich beat them to it.
Speak for yourself on your happy horseshit terminology.
Here is how America is failing:
“A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.”
“The average age of the worlds greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:
From Bondage to spiritual faith;
From spiritual faith to great courage;
From courage to liberty;
From liberty to abundance;
From abundance to complacency;
From complacency to apathy;
From apathy to dependence;
From dependence back into bondage.”
falsely attributed to Lord Tytler
I remember getting paid $47 every two weeks while in the Air Force in Taiwan lol
As far as cardinal sins, I’m happy to report that I’m not a comitter of any of those you mentioned.
Really, then how do you account for this?
Income Category 2016 AGI Percent of Income Taxes Paid
Top 10% Over $139,713 69.5%
Top 25% Over $80,921 86.0%
Top 50% Over $40,078 97.0%
Bottom 50% Below $40,078 3.0%
They won’t go along with this.
“They” includes a whole lot of dumbasses (just count the numbers who voted for Idiot or Dirt-Bag). Just wave the flag and play the Marine Corps Hymn at the Budget unveiling and most of the working class will go along with their own rape.
that is changing. Trump has lost at least 20% of his base.
new blood in Dems getting all the momentum.
antar, No he has not lost 20%, that is your dream,,and if the demoncrats keep up their idiocy, they will lose again,,Trump 2020 is very much in play.
rich, Let’s keep all the military worship at the Super Bowl,,everybody loves that,,then all stand while the anthem is sung, while the IRS is giving it to you up your ###! Ain’t Patriotism great!! LOL..
The war corporations will be happy with their puppet in the Whites House. Watch the Democrats, as always, they will vote in favor of the bill.
Will AOC eliminate military aircraft and tanks, too?
Yup, we need to outspend the rest of the world combined even more now on military because of the “hordes” of poor families attacking our southern border.
Meanwhile people will die for lack of healthcare, seniors will need to stretch that check even more (maybe more sawdust and less hamburger helper?) , bridges will continue to fall, levees will break, and our third world electric grid will pop off in the summer, among other joys.
Our rich people need to kill other rich people’s poor people somehow Caliman. It’s the cost of the death of the “American dream”.
Very few people will commit war crimes unless they are starving and live in a “sh*thole country”.
“hordes”
You forgot “brown”. Definitely, “brown hordes” are less desirable than simply “hordes”.
As society decays, the only trick left to politicians is to divide us and pit us against each other. This can be seen most prominently in the anti-immigrant rhetoric.
Is it? I see it much more in Democrats effort to divide us by playng the victimhood game, race, sex, sexual orientation. All victim categories growing by the day. That is not to say that there is no suffering of individuals, but to define problems as unprecedented, systemic and endemic — is absurdity.
With immigration, at least some broader issues are addressed— who will provide employment, new schools, health care, wellfare, and at whose expense. Thise that would like to shut up the immigration isue are doing a good job at reducing the debate to race and ethnicity. And are lousy at explaining that high levels of immigration are good for us. They can do it — as the proponents of immigration control seldom challenge their verbal acrobatics.
Ket me give credit whre credit is due. Among those concerned about the idea of no-borders, majority of them are against imperial America and imperial Washington. They are as a rule opposed to regime change subversions, military interventiins and forever wars. That is to say, this category of voters is more likely to care about us, as a nation, our role in the world, and our neglect of our own home. You can ridicule all you want their disappointed hopes as Trump lurches between extremes, and is unable or unwilling to stick to his promises — promises that got him elected. Sure, gloat. But we know who supported anti-intervention, anti-stupid wars, anti nation building neocon vision of the world — and these were NOT democratic voters for Hillary.
And so, having lost election, faults are being found everywhere. In toxic masculinity, racism, sexism — and of course, Russia.
It is just annoying that whenever Israel has a problem, it becomes a global one. First, we insured that Moslem world in totality is American and European problem. And after decades of percolating anti-Russian immigration sentiment in Israel, collective West must hate Russia as well. How boring.
“I see it much more in Democrats effort to divide us by playng the victimhood game, race, sex, sexual orientation”
So saying Mexicans are rapists and murderers stealing our jobs is somehow not divisive ?
You understand how scapegoating works right ??
Immigration is a problem due to capitalists wanting to drive down wages. THE END.
“Stealing our jobs” would be the least of our worries from Mexican rapists and murderers.
As they would be from non-Mexican rapists and murderers.
What makes a rapist or murderer worse for having crossed one of those magical lines your favored cult has drawn on a map?
Ask the families of, or the victims of those who have crossed the magical line. If murderers were let out of jail and they commit another murder, would the rationale be that there already were plenty of murderers in the community who had never been in jail?
Well, I can see how it’s possible to have an irrational response to being the victim of a crime — whether that response is based on “he was from the wrong side of a magical line!” or “he was a redhead!” or “he had spurs that jingle jangle jingled!”
I don’t see why policy should be based on irrational responses, though. A superstition is a superstition no matter how strongly its cultists hold to it.
Just using YOUR magical line terminology, Thomas. I thought that was irrational, too.
Thomas,,”magical lines”, “favored cult”,,,WOW, you are really off the wagon today, Thomas!! LOL!!! 🙂
No one has played the victim more than trumpsters. The victim presidents campaign and presidency has been just one monotonous bellowing and
whining. Brought to you by the it’s not my fault corporation.
They all are slaves to corporations. Trump did some brave talking against corporate greed and consequences, sample available in his inauguration speech.
Talking is one thing, reality another. In reality, corporate owning top echelons and their fiefdoms rule. And we as populace are still too confused. We still talk left-right-center politics as if it natters. We still talk capitalism-socialism as if it matters. Trump brought out in the open issues of pharma greed and consequences, issues of deindustrialization, rtc. None of it
took hold in public, whatever their voting persuasion. It is because public is still under the influence of wide spread illusion that fundamentally our governance system is good, and we are arguing the issues in the margin. Trump did suceed to plant two issues — out of control immigration and wars.
The elites of both parties are horrified — both issues were supposed to have stayed on the margin. Thus the flood of victim categiries, to drown all in the same basket of victimhoid, white whining about immigrants being the despicable one. Corporations, are in the forefront of leading the charge against “white” anti-immigrant “racism”.
But to explain it all by their desire for lower wages is utterly naive. Their power is based SOLELY on the inability of the governed to have a means of influencing or challenging their power. Without a coherent challenge, they can play this “bi-partisan” democracy game forever.
But if Americam evaporating middle class and American poor ever get a hint that the purpose of immugration is to destroy any nascent COHERENCE of political thought that transcends the idiotic left-right, racial, gender, capitalist-socialist and me-toism of every kind . The fact that the issue of FRANTIC push for more immigration has not made people think hard — I do nit know what will. The most anti-Trumpian constituency will pay for it, dearly. Yet, oblivious. The democratic faithfuls should be in the forefront of fight against obscene soending on foreign forever wars, “humanitarian” interventions, occupations, nation-building that builds nothing but misery and mass emigration from devastated places we chose to destroy. Yet, oblivious. Today, looking at the most conservative sites, comments by readers — I see more opposition to Venezuela imperial adventure then in the presumptive progressive readers comments. Why, let care very much for Venezuelan women suffering under notorious macho toxicity.
You see, we need more immigration. We need boats full of Venezuelans flooding Florida and Gulf shores. We need more greatfull voters caring only for their single issue, ascwe had Cuban voters in Florida.
No, rulung elite could not care less about divisive issues, they welcome them. All they care about is that population NEVER challenges key premisses of their rule. Financial global hegemony and military might to secure it.
But even such idiotic elite can count. Our national debt is extreme, and by running deficits — it can only get worse. And they cannot demand that people innovate, while appropriating their innovation patents. These elites cannot figure out their way out of a paper bag — yet, in spite of PLENTIFUL REASONS for getting together as Americans, we chase our own tail thinking it is the cause of all problems.
So, if there is ANYONE out there adressing AMERICAN problems hurting us all — I am behind them. And I do not care what race they are. They can even be white!
” brave talking against corporate greed”..right, talk, then he gave them the biggest tax cut for corporations in history, and deregulated any industry willing to spend some of those tax cuts into his greasy campaign purse. “out of control immigration”..no, data does not support that, more like fear mongering and white nationalism. And wars ? He has greatly escalated war in every theater possible. Not a single troop home, or even reduced anywhere. Nuclear arms race where there was diplomacy.
You may be willfully
misunderstanding what I say. Mind you — nobody is DEFENDING Trump’s fits and starts in troop withdrawal drama. A serious negotiations are going on with Taliban in Doha. North Korea, whatever the status — is a process leading to normalization of relations on the Peninsula. Syria — whatever the latest, remaining in Al-Tanf, aling with refugee camps, will not last firever.
It is no rocket science — there are political forces in our country that are dead set against US withdrawing one soldier. So — figure this one out please. When a president is talking about stupid wars, stupid nation building, etc. — it should give encouragement to populace to push for a change. President can do very little if there is no groundswell of support for his issues, Other then the lonely voices on the margins from what passes for left and right — there us no groundswell of support for geting our imperial global rampage under control.
And the trillions in costs that go with it. The reason? I am not sure that public cares that much to inconvenience itself and take time away from emoting on Facebook.
And no amount of data will be sufficient to convince some that out of control immigration is a fact.
Democratic party and the entire Republican established leadership are determined to crush every dissent on foreign policy. Even if it takes getting us all fight against each other.
So, go bash Trump all you want for NOT DOING what he said. Do you at least agree with WHAT HE SAID even if not delivered?
Somehow, I do not think so. Being antiwar, how?
By criticizing anyone in power who even tries to broach the subject?
So why would Trump appoint a convicted fellow to run yet another dirty campaign in Latin America?
Are democrats objecting to yet another mess we are getting into? Criticizing Trump is an easy and cheap exercise — how about standing for something — and supporting it when there is a glimmer of a chance that status quo is cracking?
As for getting fat tax cuts to wealthy capitalist system winners, and laughing at the losers — it is our system. Any shocks there?
These wealthy were supposed to use tax cuts to invest, as they are supposed to be smarter then the rest. It is not working. Whose fault is it — system or the liw quality people?
We clearly need a disruption. Donald has no choice. Suceed or fail, he will in spite of himself keep on distupting.
I heard all the words in trumps campaign, he never promised to actually withdraw from anywhere. He promised to defeat ISIS in 30 days and level ISIS cities. He did level their cities. Obama stated he wanted to end the war on terror authorization in 2016, I’m the only commentator to mention that on this site. Shall we send him another Nobel prize for saying that ? This “you dont support trump when he says something nice” reminds me of the “everyone gets a trophy” theory for grade schoolers. A president is supposed to be a leader, lead by action, and example. Of course I find trump personally disgusting, I feel the same about Dennis Rodman, but, Rodman delivers on the court, and will always be on my all star roster. If trump ever does something resembling sustainable progress anywhere, I’ll give a slow clap. Cripes, we are 2 yrs plus change in, at this point in Obama’s tenure, he had the Start treaty ready to go.
Even Raimondo must be wavering on this ass clown.
“Even Raimondo must be wavering on this ass clown.”
I don’t think so. The more militarism displayed by Trump, the more JR calls him an “America First non-interventionist.”
Isn’t this foretelling the end of the American experiment in democracy?
Another step towards Trump’s Praetorian Empire
We’ve been living under a military dictatorship since 911.
The austerity of united states imperialism is following the path of corrupt rightwing totalitarianism. As the screw tightens unforeseen results spring from cosmic powered biology manifest as human. Look at France. Who could have guessed that a more perfect union there would be called yellow vests?
Wonder why the relatively huge non-coverage of the discord in France. If that was happening in a country that had oil, we’d be calling the leader a dictator and coming to the mob-aid of the poor *.
*people in oil-rich country.
It’s all a trick from the presidency to expose the War Party, I tell you! 😉
Or…more realistically, the War Party took power while antiwar.com is still rather hesitatingly coming to terms with this reality as their own most loyal supporters are still heavily divided on the issue. A bit of a pickle, right?
Personally I’m a great fan of Trump as being the greatest exposer of contradiction. But I don’t expect any desire for peace or diminishing government size or power coming from this White House. They’ll just try to survive for another 2 years.
It’s that famous 11-d chess that the president is playing …
“I’m a great fan of Trump as being the greatest exposer of contradiction.”
Yes, if anything good has come out of his election, it is society realizing that the empire (and its emperor) are wearing no clothes.
Hallelujah! We’ll soon hit rock-bottom.
Just what we all need -more wars,more destruction, and none of it has any link to real “defense”, which decent housing, jobs,infrastructure, health system for all, quality public education,fair courts would deliver to the people.
Be interesting to see what happens with tariffs, it is very easy for a Government to fall in love with new revenue that is a step removed from the taxpayer.
the MIC’s candidate