Israeli officials announced Friday that they will completely refuse all cooperation with the new UN probe into the Nakba Day killings of 61 Palestinian protesters at the Gaza border. The protesters were killed by Israeli troops.
A UN Security Council resolution failed to agree on the probe, when it was vetoed by the United States. The UN Human Rights Council, where no veto power exists, held a special session agreeing to send international investigators into the probe.
It was the deadliest single day in the Gaza Strip since the 2014 Israeli invasion. The incident lead to substantial international outcry. Israeli officials argued that the number of deaths were themselves of no consequence, likening it to killing Nazis.
Israeli officials are expressing outrage at the probe, saying it proves an “anti-Israel bias” at the UN Human Rights Council and amounts to the body supporting terrorism. US officials also condemned the decision, though without a veto they were unable to block it.
Israeli Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman is now demanding that the US immediately withdraw itself from the UN Human Rights Council as a way of punishing them for supporting the probe. US Ambassador Nikki Haley didn’t indicate that such a withdrawal would happen, but complained that the UN should be investigating Iran and/or Venezuela instead of Israel.
“Israeli Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman is now demanding that the US immediate withdraw itself from the UN Human Rights Council as a way of punishing them for supporting the probe.”
No problem, Sheldon Adelson just has to visit Trump pat him on the head for moving the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem and give him new orders to pull out of the U.N. I’m sure Schumer will collect all the votes necessary from an obedient Congress. Trump should, for the sake of political transparency, suggest that Congress should also move the capital of the U.S. of A. to Jerusalem, since that’s where our policies seem to be made.
It is amazing how meaningless the UN happens to be. Nikki cries in the mike on issue of syria then when they could not get the voted attacked Syria anyway. Libya was another case of not being able to get the votes to attack so they used the NATO forces. Israel is a nation which has no concern with anything. They willl cry like a baby if a drone flew over their air space while shooting and bombing neighbors at will.
UN should withdraw the Statehood Mandate they bestowed on the original land, stolen from Arabia/Palestine and then offer a new declaration which is more conditional. Sort of like how Trump withdrew from the Iran Nuclear Deal, and wants the deal.to have caveats & restrictions. Good for the goose & gander too….??????
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They cry like babys if a drone flies over their air space but show no concern while straifing and bombing neighbors at will. They seem to think they are exempt from any and all rules of civilized conduct!!!!!!!
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..the British did not have any legal right to give away Palestine via the disastrous Balfour declaration. Furthermore where is the population vote in Palestine for allowing Zionists to infiltrate Palestine to create a state??
They were the conroling authority
And there has neber been a Palestinian nation state in the history of the world.
Nefore England it was done by the Brtiish
Avigdor is right, we should withdraw from the UN Human Rights Council. We’re not worthy of being on any council that has “Human Rights” in its heading.
Israel is the quintessential ‘rogue state’. Lawless, arrogant, lethal.
Israelis and their government are not perfect, but hey have a right to defend their country from invasion. 40,000 rioters front for 1,000 armed terrorists seeking to kidnap their children.
“their” country?
Damn right!
damn right
Where is there anything written that states that Zionism is connected to Judaism?? Where??? Israel embraces a false and fabricated ideology with claims to being a part of Judaism….a lie. Either Israel is Zionist or Jewish….not both.
Ahh, good to see the Hasbara hard at work spinning that story.
I think for myself; I don’t know about you,spinning the New Left line
Please Jake, the invasion is Israel on stolen land. “Rioters” no! Peaceful unarmed marchers inside their pathetic remaining enclosure.
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They posed no threat to Israel but Israel took aim, and committed mass injury, and murder anyway. How are they to be peaceful when dodging and getting maimed by banned hollow point bullets?? They never posed a threat to Israel, but the IDF did “get off” on the slaughter. You are such a worm of a man…go figure!
The protests wete not peaceful
They were until the IDF went murder crazy, and allowed their unbridled joy of shooting unarmed people to take over. In due time…chickens will roost, and vengeance will be served ice cold upon Israel…
How do you know they they were completely peaceful .
Boston obe and the Daily Beast both have indicated that they were not while they also were blaming Israel for blockading Gaza
Because I knew reporters on the ground…The protests were energetic until IDF sharpshooters decided to do what they do best…maim, and murder unarmed civilians. No one cares about the Daily Beast, or Boston Globe..they are not going to be accurate, and go against Israeli hasbara at the end of the day.
I dont trust you you arenot a legitimate souce
I will go with the Globe and The Daily Beast
I am more legitimate than any source you have and far more educated than you. You are a child braying on about semantics instead of actually having a spine, and calling out injustices by Israel.
Who says you are legitimate ? You ? You are a neo nazi and an Assad apologist.
Fine call out injustices by Israel. (I really don’t care that you do) They are still better than their enemies.
I am far more legitimate than a poor little houseboy like you who lies to protect real evil. Careful with the Nazi tripe Stern…your horns have been visible along with the sulfuric cloud that surrounds your entire being.
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The words of the mufti
I will go wirh the Daily Beast and the Boston Globe over you.
They are something you are nothing (except a bigot and a whack job
Just keep drinking that kosher Kool-Aid, Jake. Like the MSM in the USA, it’ll make you believe whatever BS you’re told.
The truth is that you just want the people in Israel dead and don’t give a damn for fairness for the Palestinians
NO Israelis were killed or even wounded,so don’t believe your MSM lies.
The government of Israel is already emotionally and morally dead. Many sound supporters of Israel not being a criminal killing machine reside outside of the lawless Knesset. Support them! And do educate yourself since your talking points are straight from the MSM…
Israel needs to go away.
The experiment is a failure
You need to go away.
Oh thou lapdog defends the illegitimate Zionists!!! Make Us go away…coward….lol
The Bathist the Khomnei followers and AlQaida supporters first
Zionists support Al Queda, and the offshoot Al Nusra in Syria…what is your meek little point??? Where is Zionism by name defined as having any place in Palestine??? WHERE???
Prove it
https://www.timesofisrael.com/yaalon-syrian-rebels-keeping-druze-safe-in-exchange-for-israeli-aid/…
Stern you need to get out of your own way…more to come…
Hepling rebels isnt necessarily helping Isis
You sound like an Assad apologist
No, I have put you on your back and proved that Israel is supporting terrorists. I apologize for no one, but you do owe me an apology for being weak, and without any legs to stand on…
Assad says all those who ippose him are terrorsts . not true
Assad never said that…Netanyahu and Lieberman cry that bs constantly!
I bet i can fiind him saying that
Does it matter?? he has beaten the head choppers, and the Al Queda/ISIS terrorists that Israel supports. Israel is a rogue terrorist state..you are slumming for the wrong and illegitimate people…
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Israel does not have any legitimacy in the world view. Only schmucks like you peddling what you are told feel otherwise.
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They were given legirimacy by their enemies
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They are terrorists. You are such the apologist when it suits the Zionist agenda. Coward!
Not all the rebels are terrorists only Assad thinks so
The population of Syria also thinks that the outsiders invading, and terrorizing “their” country are terrorists. Your hasbara has no legs…all you have is your mouth on the Zionist boot!
Pro-democracy protests erupted in March 2011 in the southern city of Deraa after the arrest and torture of some teenagers who painted revolutionary slogans on a school wall. After security forces opened fire on demonstrators, killing several, more took to the streets.
The unrest triggered nationwide protests demanding President Assad’s resignation. The government’s use of force to crush the dissent merely hardened the protesters’ resolve. By July 2011, hundreds of thousands were taking to the streets across the country.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-26116868
Yes the Syrian people LOVE Assad (with good reason)
The United States along with Saudi Arabia began a terrorist insurgency in 2011 during the protests against Assad. The initial protests against Assad were not to overthrow him, but institute changes which he has been open to.
Security forces did not open fire, but infiltrators from outside Syria did fire on protesters in order to spark an international furor against Assad.
The US has had regime change for Syria on the books since 2003.
Do your homework Stern…the entire conflict has to do Saudi Arabia wanting to build a pipeline through Syria, in order to service Europe with NG….and thus began a systematic program of murder, terror, land theft, and torture in order to overthrow Assad.
Your new name is Brick, since that is about where your mental aptitude remains.
The rebelliin started cause Assad gunned down his own people
But you love Assad so you aplogize for him
Go figure..you rely on the BBC for accurate reporting?? Good job lapdog!
BBCover you
Medical care ?
Medically treating Al Queda??? It is supporting terrorists. Israel is supporting ISIS, and Al Queda…I am right, and your holding a bag full of your BS!
You pro e they are giving wespons to Isis
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Israel Secretly Paying Salaries of Syrian Rebels on Golan Heights Border: Report
Even if they were “rebels”, it is a violation of international law and a war crime to arm them. Since there are no “moderate” rebels, only ISIS and al Qaeda it makes it more heinous:
Druze MK accuses Liberman of backing al-Qaeda offshoot in Syria
They have even publicly stated their support for the child raping head choppers:
Israeli Intel Chief: We Don’t Want ISIS Defeated in Syria
People don’t like terrorists and terrorist supporters.
The Syrian Rebels don’t equal terrorists.
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Iran has the largest population of Jews in the ME outside of Israel, and they see no reason to leave…must be because they are not ALSO embracing the fraud called Zionism..which is an utter fraud.
Also blew up the Jewish community center in Argentina
And supports Hizzbollah who hates jews
Bathist and Al Qafists and Hezzbollah want to get theJews
Plus Israeli arabs and muslims have it better than Jews in Iran
Why do you suppose their is blowback to constant Israeli terror, and aggression??? Where is the concrete proof of Iran being behind the Jewish center bombing?? do you have irrefutable evidence?? You are such a dummy. Hezbollah has no problem with Jews, nor do the Bathists…it is Zionism, and the criminal policies of the Israeli government that are the problem. Wake up!
Argentina thinks Iran was behind the bombing and so does the US.
Don’ t bring any Pol Pot apologist authors to defense Iran.
Hezzbollah hates jews and the Bathists do too
Most of hte Iranian population left along time ago-all it takes is a few show trials and hangings. The American left is a fraud
Keep dreaming jake!
The protests by the Palestinians were are their own land and we’re never a threat to Israel. Your sick diatribe is more support for unbridled state sponsored mass murder. If being an utter fiend is your goal then suffer the consequences…Troll
They were not peaceful
Good to see the UN taking action, clearly the Security Council wanted this but the old Veto always tends to cloud the issue.
I was disappointed to see Australia vote against this at the UN Human Right Council, they really are a racist bunch.
The Arab League will also push for action so now we just need all these countries joining the BDS movement.
Of course not. The Nazis would not have cooperated on the Warsaw Ghetto either. Same thing.
Sadam Khomeni Khaddafy Assad were worse
..than whom?? Every single Israeli leader has been a thief, mass killer, and war criminal. Your delusional just like most Zionists are…Ariel Sharon…your boy..he loved mass murder. Thank goodness he died as a vegetable!
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Shall we indulge from 1948 until now?? All of the terror, and murder committed by Lehi, and Stern Gangs??? Oh wait..that last one bear’s your namesake…oops!! Did Saddam, and Khomeni claim to be democratic leaders?? and do provide non-biased sources as I will provide a laundry list of Zionist atrocities ect…and their cooperation with the Third Reich…hmmmm…
Do you want to want me put up how many Saddam killed? Or Khomeni.
If want the comparison then just say so.
If you dont say so then i qill assume you know you have a losing case. Just say the word
Stern, your such the consummate troll for terror, you have no ground to stand on. If we were comparing say Sweden against Saddam then you might have a point, but you are in defense of a rogue terrorist state that has been actively stealing, subjugating, murdering, and destroying the Palestinians since and before 1948.
Sure Saddam was a bad guy, but did he claim Iraq to be a democratic country with democratic ideals??..no, he was a dictator, and did bad things. You are only proving that you yourself support terrorism, but want to shrug the blame, and point fingers elsewhere.
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The sword cuts both ways Stern/Troll/Apologist for terror.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement
not like the Mufit who was a architect of the holocaust . He was indicted and convicted of being a war criminal by the Nuremberg trials,Courts
Back in the summer of 1940 and again in February 1941, al-Husseini submitted to the Nazi German Government a draft declaration of German-Arab cooperation, containing a clause
“Germany and Italy recognize the right of the Arab countries to solve the question of the Jewish elements, which exist in Palestine and in the other Arab countries, as required by the national and ethnic (völkisch) interests of the Arabs, and as the Jewish question was solved in Germany and Italy.[161]”
It is the duty of Muhammadans [Muslims] in general and Arabs in particular to … drive all Jews from Arab and Muhammadan countries… . Germany is also struggling against the common foe who oppressed Arabs and Muhammadans in their different countries. It has very clearly recognized the Jews for what they are and resolved to find a definitive solution [endgültige Lösung] for the Jewish danger that will eliminate the scourge that Jews represent in the world.[183]
A year later, on 25 July 1944 he wrote to the Hungarian foreign minister to register his objection to the release of certificates for 900 Jewish children and 100 adults for transfer from Hungary, fearing they might end up in Palestine. He suggested that if such transfers of population were deemed necessary, then
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amin_al-Husseini
not like the Mufti
A year later, on 25 July 1944 he wrote to the Hungarian foreign minister to register his objection to the release of certificates for 900 Jewish children and 100 adults for transfer from Hungary, fearing they might end up in Palestine. He suggested that if such transfers of population were deemed necessary, then
ask your Excellency to permit me to draw your attention to the necessity of preventing the Jews from leaving your country for Palestine, and if there are reasons which make their removal necessary, it would be indispensable and infinitely preferable to send them to other countries where they would find themselves under active control, for example, in Poland, thus avoiding danger and preventing damage.[
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amin_al-Husseini
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The Mufit was not only a collaborator or a Nazi but a supporter of the Holocaust
and he was a convicted after WW II
The Mufit did not represent a majority of Muslims. The Mufti did not support the Holocaust, and did not support mass Jewish immigration to Palestine….who would in those days. What country would support mass immigration to their lands by force???
Furthermore the Zionists having collaborated with Hitler to force Jews from their homes and move to Palestine is on par with Zionists right now.
Eager to uproot indigenous people from their homes as to only benefit the Zionists…like you! Your a scumbag Stern, and a liar.
He did support the Holocaust
No he did not liar..better find some dead children with boots on so you can get excited…Zionazi.
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You are A Nazi for real
Go help the nazis whom you love and support
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Next up i will put up what Saddam Qafaffi and Khomeni did.
Think you can win that one?
If you dont try it willl be an admission that you cant
It isup to you
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Psychopaths rarely do cooperate with the law..handala is watching…
Of course – withdraw from the Human Rights Council. Go bigger – withdraw from the UN itself. Withdraw from all international organizations and confine ourselves to association only with Israel, No more trade pacts, joint scientific efforts, medical studies, international space ventures – just be vicious, racist, militaristic animals – this should please God.
If a group of Palestinians breached the border and killed 5 children and kidnapped 5 others, the UN would be silent.
Don’t know, Jake – because that didn’t happen. What did happen was that dozens of unarmed Palestinians, including children, were killed – shot with military rounds by gleeful IDF troops. And Israel’s borders were not breached; the shooting occurred across the border. The UN isn’t fair to Israel because Israelis do not act like humans towards the Palestinians
Apparently you never heard of the Feydayeen, then the PLO, and Hamas, and their activities, how many kidnapped, how many children killed in their sleep over the past 70 years, how many children orphaned. The UN isn’t fair to Israel because there are many more Muslim countries and only one Israel, and the Europeans have large violent Muslim minorities living among them. The people of Israel are not angels, but they were driven out of their homes by Europeans and Muslims, and came and established a country. Not a perfect country, but still a refuge.
You are right, Jake, I’ve never heard of the Feyadayeen or the other evil Muslim groups preying upon the innocent Israelis that you cite – mainly because I don’t subscribe to the Jerusalem Post or any of the other hasbara publications that print the “Israeli propaganda side”. I just don’t have the need to feel good about any of my ties to a racist, militaristic, apartheid state. The truth is sufficient.
Then you are seriously in denial. And you never heard of suicide bombers, Olympics massacres, or Maalot massacres either
How far back will you go???This is this week; Jake.
Where is your proof regarding your utter B’s regarding kidnappings?? Oh wait…you mean the constant and continuous IDF/ Shin Beit kidnapping and illegal imprisonment of children with no trial or charges. There are close to ten thousand men woman and children being detained in Israeli prisons with no charges….your sick, and a supporter of child killers. Get a grip…
And Israel would have bombed the s**t out of Gaza. Again.
Don’t shoot rockets and you won’t get bombed
Rubbish.
Don’t treat humans like animals and rockets won’t be shot at you.
Hamas is out to destoy Israel thier own words
While Israel embraces Hamas with open arms and is willing to sit down at any time and negotiate a peace settlement. Treating Hamas as equal partners and with no preconditions.
Stern is a bit of a simple mind…if you speak with any moral clarity he is dumfounded and thinks Hamas will takeover Israel!!! LOL!!!
I think what Hamas does could cause injuies and kill israeli
I think Israel’s actions endanger Israeli’s. Hamas has no need to hurt Zionists, but Zionists have proven to revel in murder, torture, and misery as entertainment.
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Those are your words, and the words of the Zionist propaganda machine. Hamas are legitimate while the Likud, Labor, and Settler party’s are all illegitimate.
This Hamas?
Hamas: What You’re Not Being Told About Israel’s Arch Enemy
Your on point, but with Stern you are dealing with a mind programmed to embrace evil as though it was something to be revered. Thanks for sharing.
“bottle rockets” don’t warrant 7.62 mm responses. But keep on going – israel will have it’s own 9-11.
No doubt, such an event would please you indeed.And then if the response was a megaton, you would scream in outrage
If that happened, YOUR media would never stop moaning, BUT it is NOT that, is it?
And what media are you referring to? I do not own any media,have no media affiliations, nor do I limit myself to using any one site or venue. What are YOU referring to? Have the courage to say what you mean, instead of hiding behind innuendo.
Wow…what courage do you mean???? That you are not intelligent enough to do actual research on the sociopathic diatribes you call truth??? Blood is on your hands and all of those supporting Israeli mass murder theft and subjugation…period.
And why these references to God? Remember, if you don’t like the way Israelis sometimes behave-you made them that way.
Jake, That is my way of being sarcastic. I have a deep personal hatred of the Old Testament. I was dragooned into being a Sunday School teacher once, and although I love the Gospel of Christ with its universal love and forgiveness; I hated having to teach the Old Testament with its cruelty. As this was in a rural area, the ultra-conservative congregation rejected Christ and embraced the Esthers and Joshuas. The pastor and I got into a shouting match during a Sunday School lesson because I called Joshua a genocidal monster – I stormed out of the church and never went back. I didn’t indoctrinate the Israelis – anyone who prefers the Old Testament to the New, will always be an enemy of kindness to others.
So what you are openly saying is that those people who choose to accept the old testament and deny the new testament are unkind and cruel. i.e. Jews.Those who accept the new testament,i.e. Christians are paragons of kindness and goodness.
You condemn a whole nation of people as “racists”.Take a good look at where you are really coming from, with in your own worlds”deep personal hatred”.
Jake, we’ve come back to the starting point – Israel has no business stealing Arab land, the Palestinian protestors were unarmed and on their side of the border, and the use of live fire cannot be justified. The World will be a better place when Palestine has it’s own country – totally free from Israeli interference.
Two nations living side by side with a deep commitment to peace would be wonderful. Both nations could have Jerusalem as their capitol. Problem is that both sides deny the humanity of their enemy;both sides want it all for themselves.
My experience, Jake, is that most Jews that I know are unbelievers, i.e. very few believe the “stories” of the Flood, Exodus, etc. It is the Christian Right that accepts all this and are cheering on the genocide of the Palestinians in order to bring on the End of the World. One should be slow to denounce someone’s religion, but, the problem today is the constant bashing of Islam with this constant chatter about “77 Virgins”, and killing of “infidels”, etc. The truth is that the Old Testament is every bit as violent and unkind as the Koran is held-out to be. To me, the cure for evil is the truth.
..since the illegal inception of Israel’s takeover of Palestine, the Zionists never sought to assimilate with the indignenous Palestinian population. Since day one the Zionists wanted complete separation and to expel the Palestinians from their land. If the Zionists would have come in peace things would have been quite different. Also do indulge this forum where Abraham embraces the ideals of Zionism…where is the text since every Jew states that he or she comes from the lineage of Abraham????
The Jews living Hebron that were massacred in 1929 had lived their for centuries, Zionism naively did not realize that other peoples were living there. Many Arabs and Jews lived together with a good measure of peace, but nationalism on both sides increased hate.
So what you are openly saying is that anyone who does not accept the New testament, meaning Jews, is ipso facto evil and cruel. Those who accept the new testament, meaning Christians, are paragons of kindness This is the crux of who YOU are, yet you refer to a nation of people as racist. Israel is a secular state, its Jewish inhabitants vary in their views from ultra orthodox to non-believers, the country has its criminals and honorable people, warriors and pacifists.
US system of thought allows freedom for all religions. In other words, priestly classes must not be held accountable for their promotion of poverty, other injustices, wars, misogyny, hatreds, false knowledge, etc.
And Iranian mullahs do that also. So, if US wants Iranian mullahs investigated and then condemned for hate speech and spread of massive ignorance; then, all theocratic hierarchies should also be investigated.
Here in the USA, our congressional representatives must sign a loyalty oath to Israel:
https://www.thomhartmann.com/forum/2015/08/loyalty-agreement-isreal-congresspersons-are-required-sign
“Loyalty Agreement” with Isreal that Congresspersons are “required” to sign
Now our Congressional representaves are equally guilty of Israel’s war crimes and genocide and must be prosecuted for them.
Since Israel refuses to abide by anything the UN says, perhaps it’s time for the UN to revoke its mandate that created Israel in the first place.
Dream on
Yeah, I watched ‘Exodus’, too- the original, not the recent versions- and wished the Israel we had was the Israel that was sold to the US on the silver screen. But in comparison, the real Israel and the screen version could not be more different than night and day. I would support the export version of Israel 100%- but the present-day Israel that is reality? Not so much.
DuH! Tv and movies are fantasies. Israel was built by people who were slaughtered and driven out of their homes. They built a nation and a refuge. No angels in a world without angels. Sometimes they purchased land, sometimes Arab people were unfairly displaced. Survival is a harsh business in a hostile world.
What is harsh is your embrace of utter Zionist propaganda. Zionism has no history in Palestine or within Judaism. Until you grasp that your opinions are pure idiotic bunk!
Thats why you cant make it outside this site
Make what outside this site? Stern, please do find a discourse that can keep up with your third grade intellect…shall we go on?? Puta…
If you are so great why do you hide behind a fake name on this site .
Try it in the real world. You wlll get your head handed to you
Nothing brave about Zionists or their morally dead supporters like you…Tell me how Zionism is connected to Judaism…uh..via Abraham??? No…the Bible?? No, The Talmud??? No…what about the Torah?? No…you need to grow a pair before you step up….
I dont care aabout zionism only that Israel s enemies are worse
Say otherwise.
You defend Israeli terror, subjugation, and mass murder…what does that make you… a weak little man pointing fingers and desperate for diversions….Why not step up and defend Peace Now, or B’tselem, or even Breaking the Silence…..now that would take a moral compass…never mind!
Israels enemies are worse but you only care about Israel
Winder why
So far as I can tell, you only care about Israel too. Sauce for the goose …
No your view of Isreal is fair more or less. It is a question of degree and accuracy. If the posters had your view there would be not much problem.
I dont support Isreal . I dont think the US can afford to give them cash.
However the Nazi stuff and they are worse than Saddam Khomeni or Khadaffy is ober the top and i not accurate.
Infact it is misinformation
Legitimate critism is right.
The illigimste stuff is not. you alluded to what the illegitimate stuff is before.
I hope this clears up my view.
Mr. Knapp is right on point, but you are dead wrong which is the usual with Israeli firsters. Israel is far worse since it is a knowing thief who steals, and illegally occupies land that was never theirs to begin with, targeting, and kidnapping children, and detaining them without charge, and attacking their neighbors unprovoked at every turn all to expand borders.
You cannot handle the truth since you embrace these utter tragedies with a morally dead intellect…
And i am right that you ignore far wose by Isreael enemies
You business is disinformation misinformation and selective criticism because you ate a facistic bigot and a neo nazi.
Meo nazis ARE NOT good Amercans
Stern…do learn to “spell” when you have a boot upon your throat…mine. You cannot help you were raised without any empathy, or understanding of how important a moral compass is.
You are so busy pointing fingers at dictators who have been dead for years, but lick the boots of terrorist killers right under your nose.
This makes you a pathetic worm….does the boot feel good?? “You” should burn down whatever squalor that you live in and donate to Israel…since they need more land!
You wear Jack boats .
There is a war going on your meassage is that Israel is worse than their enemies
You cant show it
Hamas want to destroy Israel
Isreal doesnt behave worse than other counitries in war . Assad killed far more than Istael
The Bathist killed more than Israel
The Khomeni followers killed far more than Isreal
Interesting you talk about me talking about dead leaders .since you stll talk about Sharron
I did show it Stern…which of Israel’s neighbors are kidnapping children, stealing land, destroying homes, committing mass murder, besides Israel’s beloved ally Saudi Arabia in Yemen??? Iraq..no, Iran, no, Syria…via from terrorists abroad supported by Israel. I brought up Sharon, because I thought a dead worm like you would admire him…lol
Show Israel gibing arms to ISIS
As for zsaudi Isreal doesnot even have diplomatic relations with Saudi
Can you spell??? Israel is supporting seven different terrorist groups within Syria with Saudi Arabia’s blessing, and Uncle Sam’s. Enjoy! https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/syria/with-eye-on-iran-israel-increases-military-support-for-syrian-rebels-1.5826348
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Israel is providing medical, and material support to terrorists..what do you not understand????I posted this lol!!…this is wrong you sorry excuse…
Not everyone who fights Assad is a terrorst
Anti Assad does not mean terrorst
The Syrian population supports Assad, and are not fighting him…Israel is supporting terrorist groups along with the US, and Saudi Arabia to turn Syria into another Libya. Thankfully the US, Israel, and Saudi Arabia have failed.
Happy the US fails and apologizing for Assad
Cool.
You apologize for the illegitimate government of Israel, and support their criminal policies, plus you are morally dead. You will never win against me Stern.
Better to be an apologist for Israel than their enemies
You can win anything
You are a professional liar, and loser. You bring nothing to the table except excuses, and diversions….Brick!
Go support and apolgize for the mufti https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3c4f956474a4625617ca3f9be151493c963cc0ed0c8f7b7a54ea7e7e9a47f0b7.png
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You are an Assad apologist and and a Nazi
So that is worse
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The rebels dont equal Isis
They do you petty apologist….yeah…your just another boot licking Zionist…go figure…
I like to lick the boots of girls
I admit it.
What of it?
Of course they do. They are in Syria to cause chaos, push Wahhabism, and overthrow the legitimate government of Assad. The rebels do equal ISIS, and Israel supports them.
Israel invented Hamas, Stern, and does not want to destroy Israel. Per usual you turn everything around to appease your lies, and morally dead intellect. Gaza is illegally blockaded by Israel, because Israel wants to choke, and terrorize the population..methods of terror that I am sure you embrace. Your such a Zionist…lol!
What is a Zionist? Amyway i dont support the US giving 3B to Israel nor do i support Netanyahoo or settlements
But i think it would be better to be a zionist than a Jew hating neo nazi
You are a Zionist hating Jew..Stern! People like you desecrate Judaism with your hasbara, and filthy support of terrorism, theft, and mass murder. Leave the Jews alone.
And you are a neo nazi bigot who wants to get the Jews
You are so desperate that you quote yourself as a source
Prove Israeli firster
So Israel is far worse than Saddam or Khomeni?
That is what you are stating?
Please be clear
Israel is far worse on many fronts of which you fail to comprehend. If you want to compare body counts do consider the unprovoked murder of over twenty thousand by the illegal Israeli invasion of Lebanon, and Sharons condoning of the Shatilla, and Sabria camps which were all woman, and children. Am I being clear..knowing that you are morally dead I doubt it…
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/1321090/Khomeini-fatwa-led-to-killing-of-30000-in-Iran.html
Khomeni did more than this
The numbers by Saddam are even worse
Oh wow…and they are both dead, but Israel is actively supporting Al Nursra/ISIS/Al Queda, and committing mass terror….not an utterance from a dead troll like you…
ShowI gibes weapons to Isissrael
Sorry to have upset you…you have been amusing, but I find your simple-minded approach/rhetoric to a complex discussion without any real merits. Your obsession with dead dictators is laden with so much vile hypocrisy. No one can help you. Go find a God that will have you since there is nothing holy in Israel anymore…
Israel is not holy
They are a failed state
Hoever they are bettrr than their enemies
Israel is not better than anyone..they are a morally bankrupt state that pursues an agenda that is criminal, inhumane, and has never involved being a democracy which has always been a sham. Israel is a theocracy period.
Israel is better than the Bathists the Khomeni followers
They habe killed many more and acted worse in war
“If the posters had your view there would be not much problem.”
Disagreement is not a “problem.” It’s a feature, not a bug.
Does Israel have to be “better” or “worse” than its enemies for it to be in the right or in the wrong? To me a lot of the issue is in the differential between claim and action.
Iran’s regime doesn’t pretend it’s not a theocracy.
The Ba’athist regimes used to be quite open about the necessity of dictatorship to their theory of governance. (Assad has played the “see how popular and demoratic I am? When I allow a few parties aligned with my own to run candidates who endorse me over themselves, I win!” game lately).
Israel’s regime does pretend it’s not an apartheid state in which the alleged interests of one ethnic group are enshrined and the alleged interests of other ethnic groups suppressed as necessary to the former. In that sense, Israel is less honest than old South Africa, which at least came out and admitted what it was doing. Israel also postures as the region’s only “liberal democracy” when in fact its electoral system is much like Iran’s — parties the regime approves of may run candidates for a parliament, other parties are banned from doing so.
If Israel wants to claim that it holds higher standards, it’s going to be subject to criticism per those standards.
Not an apartied state in South Afirica other grroups could not run and were not in the government . Isreal has arab supereme court judges
And Iran has Jewish MPs. So?
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Also the messageon this board by some posters is that Israel is Nazi Germany that is not a view that is a sort of Holocust denial
The other message is that Israel is worse than Saddams Iraq that is misinformation and propaganda
“Also the messageon this board by some posters is that Israel is Nazi Germany that is not a view that is a sort of Holocust denial”
Not even close.
Why dont they compare Israel to Imperial Japan? Ah ha.
Yes it is what the Nazis did was rare and unusually horrible. But if Israel is doing it then it is not so unusual
Also” if the Jews are doing it”
Then what was done to them wasnt “quite as bad ” cause they are ” doing the same thing”
You’ve got it exactly backward.
The reason the people you are referring to compare Israel to the Third Reich is as a way to posit Israel as uniquely, or nearly uniquely, evil.
Comparing Israel to the Third Reich is an implicit ACKNOWLEDGEMENT of the Holocaust, not a denial of it. Absent the Holocaust, the Nazis were just the usual crop of German nationalist assholes.
There are intentionally trying to make it mean less cause it is common and less special cause the Jews do it to”
If I equate an opponent to Satan, I am implicitly claiming 1) that Satan exists, and 2) that Satan is really bad, not denying that Satan exists or minimizing his evil.
Holocaust denial violates Antiwar.com’s commenting guidelines, but it has to be real Holocaust denial, not just someone claiming that since he’s losing an argument, his opponents must be Holocaust deniers.
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Satan is bad cause what he did was so unusually horrible.
If you say that what Satan did is done by the victims of Satan
They you are saying what Satan did was not unusually horrible and since the victims of Satan are doing what he did that they suffered from Satan so what he did wasn’t as bad since his victims did it. Then you are” diluting” what he did.
I didn’t not make the claim TO ASK for your help with the posters. Only to show that they are engaging in misinformation and hate speech.
Most of I was explaining why I post.
And I don’t think I am losing. Most in the mainstream world would agree with me ( I bet)
You yourself said that Israel isn’t enraging in Genocide. What made the Nazis horrible is their form of Genocide and not that many of them liked German food.
One more difference the worst Israelis want to expel the Palestinians . However Hitler wanted Jews who ran away returned to Germany to be killed. Even the Japanese thought he was crazy when it came to Jews and would not comply.
Calling Israel the Nazis is akin to Holocaust denial . and a form of hate speech .
“Satan is bad cause what he did was so unusually horrible.”
Exactly. Which is why comparing Israelis to Nazis is an insult. And the opposite of Holocaust denial.
I never said you asked for my help. Nor am I trying to help you. I just pointed out that you are wrong to suggest that accentuating the evil of the Holocaust by comparing the Israelis to it is anything resembling Holocaust denial.
Vis a vis hate speech, my reasonable assumption is that when Israel is compared to the Third Reich, it is the Israeli government being compared to Hitler’s government, not Jews as such being compared to Nazis.
So, with Holocaust denial and hate speech, you are now at 0 for 2 in trying to explain away the ass-whipping you’re taking on this forum. Here’s where I will try to help you:
Flooding the forum with repetitive semi-literate assertions accompanied by memes at a rate of 5:1 per commenter you respond to isn’t going to win any argument you’re in.
Now I’m going to take off my helpful commenter hat and put on my moderator hat: The flooding is getting old. The semi-literate part and the often being completely wrong part don’t violate the guidelines. The flooding does. So reduce your comments to a reasonable number if you want to stay here.
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If i am getting reviewed i would hope my opponent s are getting the same review
It is misinformation and Holocaust diluting
Has Israel comitted Geno ide yes or no?
And they dont compare Israel to imperial Japan or the Congo or any number of awful states they choose the Nazis cause they want to get Jews
Yes it is the Holocausst was rare and unusual
If Isreal is “doing the same thing “it is less so
Also if the Jews ” do it to others “then what was done to them was” less bad;
ISRAEL IS BETTER THAN IRAN
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Right on point.
About Assad being a dictator
You support a rogue state who kidnaps children on a weekly basis, destroys homes, and allows illegal squatters to terrorize the indigenous population. Which of Israel’s neighbors is stealing land, and destroying homes enmass, and killing children??? You are such a schmuck! Go back to sleep…
I supportPeace Now do you ?
They want a compromise do you?
You do not support Peace Now…anyone with your obsession with diverting guilt is against Peace Now, and B’tselem. The compromise will be on the 67 borders or nothing. Furthermore the current war criminals in charge care nothing about any compromise…neither do you.
Your a Zionist of course you care..that is why your so adamant on diverting attention away from Israeli terror, mass murder, and theft. Hypocrite!
What is a zionist ?
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What a surprise. Israel is special, it is “chosen”, yet also it must be treated as a normal nation, which it is not, of course.
God’s anointed murdering and pillaging? No the Bible hasn’t been bastardized to hell in the past two thousands years? Not at all?
Israelis defended their border,
oh that the USA had the same determination.