As results begin to come in from Sunday’s Lebanon parliamentary election, a decisive shift has emerged. Though exact seat numbers are not finalized, Prime Minister Saad Hariri’s party has lost decisively, while Hezbollah and its allies are putting together a narrow, but absolute, majority in parliament.
Hezbollah is terming the results a “great victory,” with most estimates having their bloc of allies securing around 67 seats out of 128. Hariri has confirmed that his Future Movement lost at least a third of its seats, down to an estimated 20-21.
This almost certainly means that, once finalized, Hariri’s premiership is over. Hariri has long been a rival to Hezbollah, and one of the Sunni parties within Hezbollah’s March 8 Alliance would have every reason to expect a majority would mean they get the spot.
Lebanon has an informal system of power-sharing among religions, with a Sunni prime minister, a Shi’ite parliament speaker, and a Maronite Christian president. This means all substantial blocs with an ambition to government need to have at least some members of each religion.
It is too soon to speculate who a March 8 prime minister would be. The most recent was Najib Mikati, who most recently served in 2011-2013. There likely won’t be that many choices, as the alliance is predominantly Christian and Shi’ite, with only small Sunni representation.
Bombs away!
Guess Uncle Sam will soon cut off aid to the Lebanese Army. It’s wonderful to have a commitment to democracy-until folks you dislike get elected. Look what happened when the Palestinians had an election and Hamas won: Israel arrested the guys that got elected. Uncle Sam said nothing.
And Hamas was more or less created by Israelis to weaken Arafat and PLO/PA.
More sanctions in Hizbollah
Now the US got the oil. So the mideast has changed
Cheers! I’ve always rather liked those Hezbollah blokes, a civilian militia that takes care of their own. They remind me a bit of the Black Panther Party in their heyday or the friendlier fringes of the Patriot Movement.
William Richard Higgins (January 15, 1945 – July 6, 1990) was a colonel in the United States Marine Corps who was captured in 1988 while serving on a United Nations (UN) peacekeeping mission in Lebanon. He was held hostage, tortured[1] and eventually murdered by his captors.
On February 17, 1988, Higgins disappeared while serving as the Chief, Observer Group Lebanon and Senior Military Observer, United Nations Military Observer Group, United Nations Truce Supervision Organization. Higgins was driving alone on the coastal highway between Tyre and Naqoura in southern Lebanon, returning from a meeting with a local leader of the Amal movement, when he was pulled from his vehicle by armed men who it is suspected were affiliated with Hezbollah.[1][2][3] During his captivity, he was interrogated and tortured.[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_R._Higgins
War makes sinners of us all, sadly. Who’s country was this Colonel in?
UN peacekeeper
And we should care about the extermination of an Amerikastani war criminal why exactly? The only good Amerikastani war criminal is a dead Amerikastani war criminal.
“And we should care about the extermination of an Amerikastani war criminal why exactly? The only good Amerikastani war criminal is a dead Amerikastani war criminal”
Jihadi Colin
I don’t need to say anything else. Here.
Good job explaining yourself (and perhaps others on this site)
Case closed.
Stern = zionazi Hasbaraganda troll.
Jihadi Colin said :
And we should care about the extermination of an Amerikastani war criminal why exactly? The only good Amerikastani war criminal is a dead Amerikastani war criminal”
Jihadi Colin
Absolutely. All Amerikastanis who join their armed services are war criminals because their armed services only fight criminal imperialist wars. Therefore the only good Amerikastani war criminal is a dead one.
That’s different from zionazis. The only good zionazi is a dead one. It doesn’t have to join up for that.
“Absolutely. All Amerikastanis who join their armed services are war criminals because their armed services only fight criminal imperialist wars. Therefore the only good Amerikastani war criminal is a dead one.
That’s different from zionazis. The only good zionazi is a dead one. It doesn’t have to join up for that.”
Jihadi Colin
You support the theft of American technology and raw material from the NUMEC Plant in PA in the 1960s by American Jews loyal to Israel to build Israel’s illegal nukes program? The murder of American sailors by Israel? Israel’s attacks on our free speech?
You support Putin
And Hizzbollah is a criminal hate group
You support the theft of American technology and raw material from the NUMEC Plant in PA in the 1960s by American Jews loyal to Israel to build Israel’s illegal nukes program? The murder of American sailors by Israel? Israel’s attacks on our free speech? Are you afraid to answer?
9-11 conspiracy theorist.
Why don’t you back up what you say. About the USS liberty
9-11? Did you even read my post? Maybe you are a robot. Although even a robot would not support Israel’s murder of dozens of American sailors on the USS Liberty
US government says it was an accident
Not a single survivor of the Israeli attack of the USS Liberty believes that lie. All were threatened to keep their mouths shut. The day of reckoning looms for Israel and American traitors
The US government thinks so . Show the proof that they were threaten to be silent. I will go with the opinion of the US government until they say otherwise.
Anyway the tapes of the attack were released.
The recordings were made by a nearby American surveillance aircraft in the immediate aftermath of the attack.
“For your info, it is apparently an Arab ship,” says ground control.
“Roger,” says the pilot.
“It is an Egyptian supply ship,” says ground control.
“Roger,” comes the response.
The NSA released the tapes and transcripts under the Freedom of Information Act in response to a request from Miami Judge Jay Cristol.
An author of a book on the attack, Cristol said the tapes show it was a tragic accident in a time of war — that the Israelis mistook the ship for an Egyptian one.
“I don’t think there’s any question that anyone who reads these tapes would be absolutely convinced there was the fog of war out there,” Cristol said.
Later on the tape, the Israelis sound confused and concerned. Ground control orders the helicopter pilots to look for survivors and to check their nationality.
“If they speak Arabic — Egyptians — you’re taking them to Al-Arish. If they speak English — non-Egyptians — you’re taking them to Lod. Is that clear?” says ground control.
“Roger,” says the pilot.
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/07/09/uss.liberty.tapes/index.html
Unless you think CNN was in on the conspiracy . But question if the attack were intentional then why didn’t Israel sink the ship??
Yeah right. The ship that radioed to us that it is American and is flying an American flag that we are attacking with planes that we have removed the Israel identifiers from is apparently an “Arab” ship? What’s an Arab ship? What flag do they fly?
The tapes tell everything
According to the tapes they thought it was an Egyptian ship .
Friendly fire incidents often happen during war
If it were really intentional and a conspiracy they would have sunk the ship
According to the tapes they thought it was a arab ship
Recently discovered documents show Israeli leaders were worried that evidence would come out that Israel’s 1967 attack on the USS Liberty was intentional.
The Liberty was a Navy electronics surveillance ship operating in international waters during the Six-Day War. Israeli forces perpetrated an extended air and sea assault on the ship that killed 34 Americans, injured 175, and damaged the ship beyond repair. Afterward, Israel claimed the assault was an accident and provided $6 million in compensation for the loss of the $40 million ship. (More information here.)
According to the Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz, Israeli historian Adam Raz recently examined hundreds of documents related to the Liberty that had been posted by Israeli State Archives.
(Raz is author of The Battle Over the Bomb,” available only in Hebrew. He also is reported to have written “a fascinating article about Israel’s nuclear secrets in last week’s Hebrew Haaretz supplement.”)
Ha’aretz reports that Raz is “fully aware of the fact that the ‘smoking gun’ won’t be found in the papers in the State Archives, because if Israel really had intended to hit the ship, that would have been known only to a handful of people.”
One of the documents Raz did find is an Israeli Foreign Ministry communication sent from New York to Jerusalem. Ha’aretz quotes the document:
“Menashe [Israel’s code name for US Ambassador to the UN Arthur Goldberg*] informed us we had better be very careful… The reason is apparently that the Americans have findings that show our pilots were in fact aware the ship was American.”
And later: “Menashe believes there is a recording on the ship of the conversations between the ship and our pilots, in which the ship’s crew said the ship is American. Menashe says that, in his opinion, our only chance of getting out of the crisis is to punish someone for negligence.”
In another document, the Israeli Embassy in Washington writes to the Foreign Ministry in Jerusalem under the heading “Urgent.”
“We must change the above mentioned letter [to the U.S.], because we certainly won’t be able to say there is no basis for the accusation that the identity of the ship was determined by Israeli planes prior to the attack.”
Other documents show Israeli preparations for the U.S. investigation and the American demands for compensation that were to follow. A telegram from the Israeli Embassy in Washington to the Foreign Ministry said:
“The issue has turned into a malignant wound, which involves serious dangers for all of our relationships on all levels here, whose friendship was ours until now and which are crucial to our status in the United States. In other words, the president, the Pentagon, public opinion and the intelligence community.”
An Israeli Foreign Ministry letter warned:
“In the grave situation that has been created, the only way to soften the result is for us to be able to announce to the U.S. government already today that we intend to prosecute people for this disaster. We have to publicize that in Israel already tonight. This activity is the only way to create the impression, both to the U.S. government and the public here, that the attack on the ship was not the result of malicious intent by the Israeli government – I repeat, the Israeli government – or authorized groups in the IDF. For obvious reasons, it is crucial that our announcement about prosecuting those who are to blame be publicized before – I repeat, before – the publication of the American report here.”
Show the link and the the link to the documents….
Show the link you demand? What about “according to the Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz,: so challenges you?
LINK IT AND SHOW THE DOCUMENTS OF THE HIDDEN COVERSATIONS
i have the recordings what do you have?
“Recently discovered documents show Israeli leaders were worried that evidence would come out that Israel’s 1967 attack on the USS Liberty was intentional.”
Who said so? . Please show the documents.
Show who said so and link it.
PLEASE SHOW THE DOCUMENTS. Oh I know the news media and the US government is covering it up. Prove that too.
What is known:
The USS Liberty had 358 sailors (Check it) . 10% were killed in the attack . If the attack were an intentional conspiracy why didn’t the Israelis load the planes with an Iron bomb and sink the ship leaving no survivors or witnesses? They took the time for a grand conspiracy but didn’t follow prepare for it or follow through with it.
I showed the tapes now you show the documents or link to them. If you have them then you have a great story for the world to hear.
Please link to the story and the documents.
“The USS Liberty had 358 sailors (Check it) . 10% were killed in the attack..” You disloyal, sick person, downplaying the murder of dozens of American citizens.
Who is downplaying anything?
I will go with the opinion of the US government. Now tell me what gives you the right to say who is loyal and who isn’t? Who the duck elected you?
What is your qualification for saying someone is disloyal?
You have no standing to claim anything whatsoever.
Recently discovered documents
Which documents?
10% of the Sailors were killed If it were intentional l why not sink the ship?
Wny does the US government say otherwise?
I go will go with the US government and CNN . Until you have something better.
For your info, it is apparently an Arab ship,” says ground control.
“Roger,” says the pilot.
“It is an Egyptian supply ship,” says ground control.
“Roger,” comes the response.
The NSA released the tapes and transcripts under the Freedom of Information Act in response to a request from Miami Judge Jay Cristol.
An author of a book on the attack, Cristol said the tapes show it was a tragic accident in a time of war — that the Israelis mistook the ship for an Egyptian one.
“I don’t think there’s any question that anyone who reads these tapes would be absolutely convinced there was the fog of war out there,” Cristol said.
Later on the tape, the Israelis sound confused and concerned. Ground control orders the helicopter pilots to look for survivors and to check their nationality.
“If they speak Arabic — Egyptians — you’re taking them to Al-Arish. If they speak English — non-Egyptians — you’re taking them to Lod. Is that clear?” says ground control.
“Roger,” says the pilot.
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/07/09/uss.liberty.tapes/index.html
and you support Hizzbollah smuggling drugs into the US
“If so, that means more hooked and dead Amerikastanis. Which is fine with me.”
Jihadi Colin
thank you
Hizzbollah smuggling drugs into the US….????? Any Hizzy lmportation like a drop ln the ocean compared with U.S. Three letter agency and their planes and bases in all the trade central places. ++++++ Phentanol costing small fraction of poppy product taking over entire market & offing their customers. No lookong back. Madcowprod.com
Don’t be too tough on Stern. The drugs/Hizbollah accusation is on his list of talking points. Better to have him posting here than beating small Palestinian children.
Assad is a baby killer
Criminal hate group Hezboolah
Hizzbollah also counterfeits US money
US money IS counterfeit money. No reason why there should be a monopoly on producing it. If I had an intaglio press, etc., I’d consider doing so myself.
Yes but when Hizzbollah does it it is worse. They are horrible for a lot of reasons.
they are worse than the “gangsters running the US government”.
If you don’t need to say anything else and the case is closed, why do you keep repeating yourself, including that the case is closed?
He explainedhimself far better than anything i could say .
I guess i hope he contnues to express his views .
Probably an English as a second language student hoping to get paid by Israel. I would suggest hod carrying.
Support Purin much ?
Dude, stop being a troll.
Your mother looks like a troll si no one wanted her
Can you explain to me why this simple question is under review?
My question is legitimate. Is Stern speaking about Purim or Putin?
best-dv
Do you mean the Jewish tradition of Purim? Or Putin?
Smart phone
Putin
Putin lover
https://www.defenseone.com/ideas/2018/05/us-may-seek-defenses-against-russian-missiles-we-need-talk-about/148008/
https://americanmilitarynews.com/2018/04/op-ed-a-robust-missile-defense-against-russia-and-others-is-a-vital-shield-for-america/
Arms Race II need 2 make Russia go bust AGAIN.
Please don’t post here until your English improves.
I use a smart phone stupid
“stupidly” would be the correct adverb.
your are loyal to Putin aren’t you?
I am so happy the US is going to deploying another 400 ICBMs . Arms race II . The US is going to break your boy Putin and Russia again.
Hey why do you hide on alternative websites? Take your case mainstream.
You are such a wuss
I guess I hide here because I am embarrassed that I reply to silly posters, when my time would be better spent cleaning the refrigerator vent. Although, I will save your posts for when I get in another gun control debate over arming the deranged.
Well it is good to know that not only cant you argue yor way out of a paper bag but also that you and your ilk have zero infuence whatsoever
You are loyal to Likud. Traitor to America
Prove that i am loyal to Lukud.
The poster above my his own admission says he supports Putin and looks to him as a statemen and world leader.
Anyway prove the charge or STFU
O would prefer you prove the charge. Cause i am not done with you.
Tough guy are you? You sure don’t look like one.
Tough is relative
Yet deluded is not.
That can be realative too
Nope. One is deluded or one is rational. Guess what you are.
There are degrees. For instance you think you have some standing to claim any sort of thing
Clever ain’t your strong suit.
Which is ok cause one doesnt need to be to get the best of you
I thought this was about truth, not some juvenile contest?
You are not about truth just conspiracy theories and disinformation
HERE IS SOME TRUTH FOR YOU
Khomeini fatwa ‘led to killing of 30,000 in Iran’
By Christina Lamb, Diplomatic Correspondent12:00AM GMT 04 Feb 2001
CHILDREN as young as 13 were hanged from cranes, six at a time, in a barbaric two-month purge of Iran’s prisons on the direct orders of Ayatollah Khomeini, according to a new book by his former deputy.
More than 30,000 political prisoners were executed in the 1988 massacre – a far larger number than previously suspected. Secret documents smuggled out of Iran reveal that, because of the large numbers of necks to be broken, prisoners were loaded onto forklift trucks in groups of six and hanged from cranes in half-hourly intervals.
Gruesome details are contained in the memoirs of Grand Ayatollah Hossein-Ali Montazeri, The Memoirs of Grand Ayatollah Hossein Ali Montazeri, one of the founders of the Islamic regime. He was once considered Khomeini’s anointed successor, but was deposed for his outspokenness, and is now under house arrest in the holy city of Qom.
Published privately last month after attempts by the regime to suppress it, the revelations have prompted demands from Iranian exiles for those involved to be tried for crimes against humanity. The most damning of the letters and documents published in the book is Khomeini’s fatwa decree calling for all Mojahedin (as opponents of the Iranian regime are known) to be killed.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/1321090/Khomeini-fatwa-led-to-killing-of-30000-in-Iran.html
HERE IS SOME MORE TRUTH
Saddam’s regime may have killed 61,000 – survey
Mon, Dec 8, 2003, 00:00
Saddam Hussein’s government may have executed 61,000 Baghdad residents, a number significantly higher than previously believed, according to a survey today.
The bloodiest massacres of Saddam’s 23-year presidency occurred in Iraq’s Kurdish north and Shiite Muslim south, but the Gallup Baghdad Survey data indicates the brutality extended strongly into the capital as well.
The survey, obtained by The Associated Press and which the polling firm planned to release tomorrow, asked 1,178 Baghdad residents in August and September whether a member of their household had been executed by Saddam’s regime. According to Gallup, 6.6 per cent said yes. The polling firm took metropolitan Baghdad’s population of 6.39 million and average household size – 6.9 people – to calculate that 61,000 people were executed during Saddam’s rule.
Most are believed to have been buried in mass graves.
The United States-led occupation authority in Iraq has said that at least 300,000 people are buried in mass graves in Iraq.
Human rights officials put the number closer to 500,000 and some Iraqi political parties estimate more than one million were executed.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/saddam-s-regime-may-have-killed-61-000-survey-1.513521
The sinking of the USS Liberty is a conspiracy theory?
YES IT SEEMS SO
GOT THE TAPE THE TAPE RECORDINGS. fOR YEARS THEY HAD NOT BEEN RELEASED
The NSA on Tuesday released audiotapes of Israeli pilots and ground control speaking in Hebrew, along with English transcripts.
The recordings were made by a nearby American surveillance aircraft in the immediate aftermath of the attack.
“For your info, it is apparently an Arab ship,” says ground control.
“Roger,” says the pilot.
“It is an Egyptian supply ship,” says ground control.
“Roger,” comes the response.
The NSA released the tapes and transcripts under the Freedom of Information Act in response to a request from Miami Judge Jay Cristol.
An author of a book on the attack, Cristol said the tapes show it was a tragic accident in a time of war — that the Israelis mistook the ship for an Egyptian one.
“I don’t think there’s any question that anyone who reads these tapes would be absolutely convinced there was the fog of war out there,” Cristol said.
Later on the tape, the Israelis sound confused and concerned. Ground control orders the helicopter pilots to look for survivors and to check their nationality.
“If they speak Arabic — Egyptians — you’re taking them to Al-Arish. If they speak English — non-Egyptians — you’re taking them to Lod. Is that clear?” says ground control.
“Roger,” says the pilot.
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/07/09/uss.liberty.tapes/index.html
Now for the truth:
Jerusalem Post confirms Israel knew USS Liberty was American
By Ralph Lopez Nov 6, 2014 in World
A 2004 transcript of an Israeli military tape published in the Jerusalem Post supports the unanimous position of the survivors and many high-ranking US officers that Israeli forces knew the USS Liberty was an American ship, as they attempted to sink it.
The Liberty was the only ship of its kind at the time, easily distinguishable for the huge satellite dishes mounted on its deck and the bristling array of antennae which served as the spy ship’s “ears.”
The survivors, and the audio tape on which the transcript is based, are presented in a new documentary which was broadcast on the Al Jazeera America channel last week. The audio tape has never been heard before by an American audience. The film “The Day Israel Attacked America” is directed and produced by British film maker Richard Belfield [mp4 at USS Liberty survivors’ website.]
Israel has long maintained, with official US government inquiries agreeing, that the attack was a case of mistaken identity. However, a growing chorus of critics, and the USS Liberty survivors themselves, say the official reports are cover-ups of an incident in which American sailors were ruthlessly, deliberately attacked in order to draw the US into war with Egypt, by blaming it for the loss of the ship with all hands. Israel was engaged in the Six Day War with Egypt and other Arab states at the time.
The attack, which commenced on June 8th, 1967 at 1:58 p.m. local time with strafing runs by Israeli Mirage jet fighters, lasted for approximately two hours, after seven to nine reconnaissance flights over the Liberty by slow-moving Israeli patrol planes beginning at 5:30 a.m. Liberty survivors are unanimous in their conviction that the attackers knew the ship was American, and that they were trying hard to sink it. Expended over the course of the attack were over 800 rounds of 30mm cannon, air-to-surface rockets, heat-seeking missiles, napalm bombs, and five torpedoes.
In the documentary, during the course of the attack, at 2:14 p.m., 16 minutes after the first strafing run begins, voices of Israeli military controllers are heard to say, as the timeline is counted in the background:
“To what state does she belong?” (Answer): “American”
Supporting the authenticity of the tape, in 2004 the Jerusalem Post published what it said was a transcript of Israeli military transmissions directing the attack on the USS Liberty. In that transcript, at precisely the same time, 2:14pm, the exchange translated from Hebrew to English is reported:
“Kislev, what country?” (Answer): “Apparently American.”
The Post transcript ends with this transmission. However, the attack continued for another hour and a half. Twenty minutes after the indication of positive identification, an Israeli torpedo boat approaches and fires five torpedoes, one of which hits the starboard bow and nearly sinks the ship.
Although the Israeli government maintains to this day that the Liberty was mistaken for an Egyptian ship, the Israeli attack aircraft were unmarked. The Liberty survivors and the many skeptics of Israel’s “accident” explanation point out that open warfare was already taking place at the time with Egypt, and there would be no reason to use aircraft with its markings meticulously painted over.
The matching timeline substantiates the authenticity of the tape broadcast, as raw audio with subtitled translation, by Al Jazeera America. The match indicates that the tape broadcast by Al Jazeera, and the tape on which the Jerusalem Post based its transcript, are the same.
Let me repeat: In the documentary, during the course of the attack, at 2:14 p.m., 16 minutes after the first strafing run begins, voices of Israeli military controllers are heard to say, as the timeline is counted in the background:
“To what state does she belong?” (Answer): “American”
Supporting the authenticity of the tape, in 2004 the Jerusalem Post published what it said was a transcript of Israeli military transmissions directing the attack on the USS Liberty.
Later on the identified the ship as American after the attack .
THERE IS ZERO IN THE TAPES THAT SAYS THEY CONTINUED THE ATTACK.
Ralph Lopez says so but so what?
Show some tapes that they continued to attack AFTER the ship was identified as American.
Let me try one more time. Never saw a so called American do desperate to support a foreign natoin’s murder or American sailors. In the documentary, during the course of the attack, at 2:14 p.m., 16 minutes after the first strafing run begins, voices of Israeli military controllers are heard to say, as the timeline is counted in the background:
“To what state does she belong?” (Answer): “American”
Supporting the authenticity of the tape, in 2004 the Jerusalem Post published what it said was a transcript of Israeli military transmissions directing the attack on the USS Liberty.
What happened after it was firmly indentified?
Show the tapes
By the way you dont have any standing to call anyones loyaty into question
I follow what the U S govt. says and CNN
Not you.
you sre a Nazi a bigot and a fascist and 9 11 conspiracy theorist who hides behind a fake name on a radical site
What happened after a firm identification?
Show the tapes
Name calling from a traitor. Move to your beloved Israel. Then you can live the dream –on the back of the Palestinians and the American taxpayer.
I don’t love Israel.
I don’t think the US ought to give Israel 3 Billion a year. The US can’t afford it.
As for the Pals well they ought to reach a peace agreement.
And Israel can counter claim against them and the rest of the mid east for the 1948 War and what they did to arab jews.
Moreover Israel can counterclaim against the Palestinian side for siding with the Nazis and a degree of participation in the mass killing of Jews during WW II.
If there is anything you need be to back up just say the word.
I don’t love Israel
I don’t think the US ought to give them 3 B a year
I think they have to do somethings to make the situation with the Palestinians right ( and I also think the Israel has some things to counter claim with)
Again you have zero standing to call anyone a traitor. You are not the voice of the forgotten American. No one elected or chose you.
People like you say that you are bypassing the “corrupt democracy ” and taking their case directly to the people.
Well that is what Hitler said and he would smile at you and everything you stand for
Who the duck is Ralph Lopez? From what I can tell he is a radical internet journalist who dabbles in 9-11 conspiracy theories (as do you).
http://www.digitaljournal.com/news/world/canadian-parliament-member-submits-petition-to-reinvestigate-9-11/article/421396
Who is he a “citizen who joined Digital Journal in 2012.
and he uses WRMA (The Washington Report of Middle Eastern Affairs ) as a source that is like using AIPAC as a source
I don’t trust the reporting of Ralph Lopez (radical journalist)
AFTER THE TAPES it is just his reporting there is no particular reason to put any value in his reporting
http://www.digitaljournal.com/user/894867/news?p=0
https://www.opednews.com/articles/Arrest-McCain-and-Levin-No-by-Ralph-Lopez-111129-913.html
and most of the article is AFTER the tape
Ralph Lopez isn’t a a jouralist any more than the posters on this board are
http://www.digitaljournal.com/user/894867
Nor do I particularly trust Al Jazeera
In a devastating documentary aired by AL JAZZEERA AMERICA on October 31st, never-before-heard Israeli military tapes show that the 1967 Israeli attack on the USS Liberty, which killed 34 American sailors, was deliberate.
Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/news/world/tape-released-prove-israel-s-attack-on-usaliberty-was-deliberate/article/412229#ixzz5FG2qHe00
Again , after the tapes it is just the opinion of the documentary on Al Jazzera
Plus he uses this article in his report This is a problem
In 2007, in the article “New Revelations in Attack on American Spy Ship,” the Chicago Tribune
Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/news/world/jerusalem-post-confirms-israel-knew-usaliberty-was-american/article/413296#ixzz5FG5mS9KH
http://www.chicagotribune.com/chi-liberty_tuesoct02-story.html#page=1
In the article they use something which has shown to be false
One is James Gotcher, now an attorney in California, who was then serving with the Air Force Security Service’s 6924th Security Squadron, an adjunct of the NSA, at Son Tra, Vietnam.
HOWEVER
http://www.thelibertyincident.com/gotcherdebunked.html
On Friday January 3, 2003, at 11:48:01, Ron Gotcher posted an e-mail to Mr. R [redacted] which stated in part:
After my discharge, I worked for the agency [NSA] at Fort Meade. I saw the internal report on the attack, as did most agency employees. The report conclusively established that the attack was deliberate.
HOWEVER
In response to Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request 50412, the NSA responded:
Our records reflect that Mr. James Ronald Gotcher, III has never been affiliated with this agency. (Emphasis added.)
The full texts of the Gotcher e-mail dated January 3, 2003, FOIA request 50412, the NSA release in response to FOIA request 50412, and the report to the NSA Director, USS Liberty (AGTR-5) 23 May – 8 June 1967 are reproduced below.
Gotcher E-mail dated January 3, 2003
Gotcher FOIA Request
NSA Release to FOIA Request 50412
Ralph Lopez
CITIZEN based in Cambridge, MA, United States. Joined on Dec 18, 2012
Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/user/894867#ixzz5FGDmt2NE
Why ought I trust anything he writes?
This is THE TRUTH . (The official transcripts )
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1148399/posts?page=33
(all the rest of the article is just the reporting of Ralph Lopez) (Radical internet journalist Ralph Lopez)
Now, half a century later, The Intercept is publishing two classified documents provided in the cache of files leaked by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden related to the attack and its aftermath. They reveal previously unknown involvement by Government Communications Headquarters, the U.K. signals intelligence agency; internal NSA communications that seem to bolster a signals intelligence analyst’s account of the incident, which framed it as an accident; as well as a Hebrew transliteration system unique to the NSA that was in use at least as recently as 2006.
In a statement to The Intercept, Ernie Gallo, who currently serves as the president of the Liberty Veterans Association, said, “We now know that the Navy Court of Inquiry was merely for show, as the officers were told to come to the conclusion the Liberty did [its] job and the attack was accidental.” Bamford also references the magnitude and length of the attack as proof of its deliberateness: The ship was hit repeatedly, first by planes dropping thousand-pound bombs and napalm, and then by torpedo boats. Israeli forces also jammed the Liberty’s antennas and communication channels, took out the four .50-caliber machine guns on board, and reportedly shot at life rafts and crew members as they attempted to evacuate the vessel. “It was an attack in broad daylight,” said Bamford. “They were flying a large U.S. flag. [The ship] said USS Liberty on the back. … I mean, what do you need?”
The incident and its aftermath took a significant psychological toll on survivors, many of whom were reported to suffer from PTSD. One survivor and member of the Liberty Veterans Association, James Ennes, was shot in the femur during the attack, and was then instructed never to discuss it. Ernie Gallo had a fellow crewmate die in his arms. It was decades before survivors began sharing their experiences, and they were sometimes criticized for being anti-Semitic or slanderous of Israel for doing so.
He stated in a letter to the Wall Street Journal in 2001 that he heard and recorded Israeli pilots’ and captains’ references to the U.S. flag flying on the deck of the Liberty,
There was no gunning of the life rafts ( in any reports) in was some that was added in 10 years after the incident by conspiracy theorists
Israeli forces also jammed the Liberty’s antennas and communication channels, took out the four .50-caliber machine guns on board, and reportedly shot at life rafts and crew members as they attempted to evacuate the vessel. “It was an attack in broad daylight,” “They were flying a large U.S. flag. [The ship] said USS Liberty on the back. … I mean, what do you need?”
You calling the American survivors of that attack liars?
According to records contacted the USS Saratoga. Oh wait they were being jammed which is it?
There is nothing if the official records about life rafts being shot at . That started being said 10 years after the attack.
Why don’t you show records of Jamming?
Why don’t you show records of life rafts being shot at?
Why don’t you show records of the length of the attack.
You won’t find them because they don’t exist.
You say there is a translation
THEN SHOW IT
You got nothing. Tough to defend obvious lies, isn’t it?
You don’t have anything except creepy authors like Robert Lopez.
And again you have no standing. You are not the voice of anyone (except for Klan)
you dont have anything.
And you got no standing
There was no machine gunning of life boats that was added in 10 years later
If there was jamming how could the Liberty contact the USS Saratoga?
You won’t find machine gunning life rafts in the official records.
You won’t find jamming in any official records .
Also show the length of the attack
Show something in the official records
Right. Because the people on the USS Liberty would just make that up. Why do you hate America?
Agreeing with the US government is hating America?
Screw you . You don’t get to decide.
Hmm … you seem to think YOU get to decide. Why shouldn’t everyone else?
Yes, agreeing with the US government is de facto hating America. The US government is the single largest anti-American terrorist organization on earth.
I will choose the US government over government by Stormfront , the Ayran Nation and the Nation of Islam. Which is probably the alternative
Didn’t Antiwar go to the FBI when someone threatened their website?
Life without the government think about it.
Or see how life will be under someone like Putin or Khaddafy.
You have zero standing to say who loves America. You are not the voice of America.
I have the same view as that of the US government . If the US government changes their view then I probably will as well.
WRMEA is not to be trusted . They are the flip side of Apeic
You are calling the survivors of the attack on the USS Liberty liars to defend a foreign nation. You are beneath contempt. How can you live with yourself? You should be deported
You are beneath contempt. As are all extremists and bigots in the US. They are the big problem in the US now.You don’t get to decide anything cause you have no standing. Why do you think you are above the government ? No one chose you
YOU are beneath contempt as are all bigots and all extremists in the US. They have become a cancer . You and your kind are a cancer.
Do you have a job?
ONE MORE TIME
YOU DON’T GET TO DECIDE WHO IS A GOOD AMERICAN. YOU DON’T HAVE ANY STANDING .
The US government agrees with me , and I agree with them
If they change their view I probably will as well. .
You are not above the US government . What makes you think you are?
Show the length of the attack.
Show that the boat was being jammed according to records they contacted the USS Saratoga . Oh wait they were jammed.
Get the documents to prove your case.
SHOW JAMMING
SHOW THE LENGTH OF THE ATTACK.
SHOW THAT LIFE RAFTS WERE FIRED ON (Not in the official record . That only started being said 10 years after the incident by Loyd Painter who didn’t say that on the time )
I know you won’t be able to find them. Because they don’t exist. But you were able to you would have a huge story on your hands. Now show the documents.
Someone supported by WRMEA (Just another version of AIPAC) said this and this. That not good enough.
Remember you have zero standing to call anyone a traitor. If you can find some words that say I am loyal to another government then show them.
Your are just a bigot and a conspiracy theorist who hides behind a fake name on the internet.
Get something better than Ralph Lopez.
and you are also a 9-11 conspiracy theorist right??
Be truthful
Do I believe a giant man with a beard in a cave on a ventilator halfway across the world not only perpetrated 911 but also directed the cover-up? Hell no.
9-11 conspiracy theorists are terrorists.
No. Shooting and gassing unarmed Gazans is terrorism
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/471fea22146913fa52f5c3976d2fa6c8a3967e8f9572f006a20d836fad9c20a3.jpg
not unarmed
Interesting claim. And an admission that you are a terrorist.
The only conspiracy was that the twin towers were poorly constructed
So you think that one person carried out the 9/11 attacks in their entirety? Because that theory is the only alternative to a conspiracy theory.
Not all conspiracies are the same.
Prove what you said. Still waiting
You prove it with every post you put up. Where is all the proof of all these people being Putin loyalists as you claim?
That Poster daid he looked to Putin as a statesman and supported Putin. They said it directly
that poster admitted it himself
All these people love Putin they think he will be their champion to crush the US.
Symbolic of most American victims of Islamic terror who die as a result of Uncle Sam’s financial, diplomatic, military and political support for the Zionist enterprise. The sooner we chuck this Jonah overboard the better.
Good Christian Empire sets off Terror Bomb on the streets of Beirut: “On 8 March 1985, a car bomb exploded between 9 and 45 metres from the house of Islamic cleric Sayyed Mohammad Hussein Fadlallah in Beirut, Lebanon, in a failed assassination attempt allegedly organized by the American CIA and British intelligence. The bombing killed more than 80 people and injured 200, almost all civilians.” -Wikipedia
“Washington Post reporter Bob Woodward’s explosive account of CIA involvement in the Middle East, Veil: The Secret Wars of the CIA 1981-1987, would eventually undermine the official denials.
Woodward, drawing on interviews with President Ronald Reagan’s aggressive CIA Director William Casey, reported that Casey had circumvented the spy agency’s established bureaucracy to funnel money to a professional hit team trained to assassinate Fadlallah. ”
http://foreignpolicy.com/2010/07/06/the-sheikh-who-got-away-2/
https://www.haaretz.com/1.5144427
And they did it again in 2008: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/cia-and-mossad-killed-senior-hezbollah-figure-in-car-bombing/2015/01/30/ebb88682-968a-11e4-8005-1924ede3e54a_story.html?utm_term=.821685f25590
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Israeli_assassinations
apologizing for the murders of Robert Higgens
you think it was wrong that Israel killed Imad Muganina? Or whatever his name was?
1994 AMIA Bombing
Part of Spillover of the South Lebanon conflict (1985–2000)
Atentado AMIA.jpg
The aftermath of the attack
Location Buenos Aires, Argentina
Coordinates 34°36′06.5″S 58°23′58″W
Date 18 July 1994
09:53 (UTC-3)
Target Asociación Mutual Israelita Argentina
Attack type
car-bomb
Deaths 85 (+ 1 bomber)[1][2]
Non-fatal injuries
300+
Perpetrators Suspected Hezbollah and Iranian involvement[3][4][5][6][7] Ansar Allah, a Hezbollah front, claimed responsibility.[8][9][10]
Suspected perpetrator
Ibrahim Hussein Berro
Each year thousands of persons remember the bombing
The AMIA bombing was an attack on the Asociación Mutual Israelita Argentina (AMIA; Argentine Israelite Mutual Association) building. It occurred in Buenos Aires on 18 July 1994, killing 85 people and injuring hundreds.[11] It was Argentina’s deadliest bombing ever. Argentina is home to a Jewish community of 230,000,[12] the largest in Latin America and sixth in the world outside Israel (see Demographics of Argentina).[13]
Kill jews in other countries. Hizzbollah is a fascist terror hate group
On 25 October 2006, Argentine prosecutors Alberto Nisman and Marcelo Martínez Burgos formally accused the government of Iran of directing the bombing, and the Hezbollah militia of carrying it out.[16][5][17]
US Empire kidnapped innocent people all over the world and sent them to secret prisons where they could be tortured:
https://theintercept.com/2014/12/09/map-of-cia-black-sites/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_CIA_interrogation_videotapes_destruction
“”The case was investigated by an independent prosecutor in Italy, leading to the conviction in absentia of De Sousa and 21 other CIA operatives and high-ranking officials. At the time, the case was seen as the only exhaustive investigation of the illegal counter-terrorism practice known as extraordinary rendition, and exposed US allies’ role in helping to execute the trategy.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/25/former-cia-agent-sabrina-de-sousa-extradition-italy-abu-omar-kidnapping
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Omar_case
“OPSEC failure of spies”
and why was he and the UN even there? US/Israel aggression of course!
“The United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon… with the adoption of Security Council Resolution 425 and 426 on 19 March 1978, to confirm Israeli withdrawal from Lebanon which Israel had invaded five days prior, restore international peace and security, and help the Government of Lebanon restore its effective authority in the area.
The mandate had to be adjusted twice, due to the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in 1982 and after the Israeli withdrawal from Lebanon in 2000.” -Wikipedia
1978: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1978_South_Lebanon_conflict
1982: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1982_Lebanon_War
1993: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Accountability
1996: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Grapes_of_Wrath
2006: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Lebanon_War
“The multinational force, composed of troops from the U.S., France, and Italy, arrived in Lebanon in August 1982. Their presence was part of a ceasefire agreement between Israel and the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), which followed the American-backed Israeli invasion of Lebanon in early 1982.”
“By early 1983, the situation seemed to have stabilized until, in April of that year, a car bomb destroyed the U.S. embassy in Beirut. In July, after Israel began a unilateral withdrawal, fighting between the competing militias intensified and violence against the multilateral force, who were now seen as allies of the Christian militias, escalated. As a result, U.S. Marine positions routinely came under small arms and mortar fire which, by late August, the Marines began returning. These skirmishes led to the death and wounding of several militiamen and some Marines even before the attack on the barracks.
The crucial turning point occurred in early September, when the U.S. began providing naval gunfire support for the U.S.-backed Lebanese Army—something that was opposed, as journalist
Nir Rosen has pointed out, by the State Department, the CIA, and even Marine Commander Col. Timothy Geraghty. ”
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/setting-the-record-straight-the-beirut-barracks-bombing/
YANKEES & ZIONISTS GO HOME!
They have in the past. As former National Security Council members Daniel Benjamin and Steven Simon describe in their book, The Age of Sacred Terror, a small group of al-Qaeda members visited Hezbollah training camps in Lebanon in the mid-1990s. Shortly thereafter, according to testimony from Ali Mohammed, an Egyptian-born U.S. Army sergeant who later served as one of bin Laden’s lieutenants and pled guilty to participating in the 1998 embassy bombings in eastern Africa, Osama bin Laden and Imad Mugniyeh met in Sudan. The two men, who have both topped the FBI’s list of most-wanted terrorists, agreed Hezbollah would provide the fledgling al-Qaeda organization with explosives and training in exchange for money and manpower. Though it is unclear whether all terms of that agreement were met or the degree to which the two groups have worked together since. Douglas Farah, a journalist and consultant with the NEFA Foundation, a New York-based counterterrorism organization, says Hezbollah helped al-Qaeda traffic its assets through Africa in the form of diamonds and gold shortly after the 9/11 attacks. U.S. and European intelligence reports from that time suggest the two groups were collaborating in such activities as money laundering, gun running, and training
https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/al-qaeda-hezbollah-relationship
Yes you have to applaud those who defend their own from Imperialism. Israeli aggression aided by the US is the reason why Hezbollah even exists:
“The multinational force, composed of troops from the U.S., France, and Italy, arrived in Lebanon in August 1982. Their presence was part of a ceasefire agreement between Israel and the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), which followed the American-backed Israeli invasion of Lebanon in early 1982.”
“By early 1983, the situation seemed to have stabilized until, in April of that year, a car bomb destroyed the U.S. embassy in Beirut. In July, after Israel began a unilateral withdrawal, fighting between the competing militias intensified and violence against the multilateral force, who were now seen as allies of the Christian militias, escalated. As a result, U.S. Marine positions routinely came under small arms and mortar fire which, by late August, the Marines began returning. These skirmishes led to the death and wounding of several militiamen and some Marines even before the attack on the barracks.
The crucial turning point occurred in early September, when the U.S. began providing naval gunfire support for the U.S.-backed Lebanese Army—something that was opposed, as journalist
Nir Rosen has pointed out, by the State Department, the CIA, and even Marine Commander Col. Timothy Geraghty. ”
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/setting-the-record-straight-the-beirut-barracks-bombing/
Overt Israeli aggression against Lebanon:
“1978 South Lebanon conflict, an invasion of Lebanon up to the Litani River carried out by the Israel Defense Forces
1982 Lebanon War, Israel Defense Forces invasion of southern Lebanon
Operation Accountability, week-long attack by Israeli forces against Lebanon in July 1993
Operation Grapes of Wrath, 1996 Israeli Defense Forces campaign against Lebanon
2006 Lebanon War, a military conflict in Lebanon, northern Israel and the Golan Heights” -Wikipedia
That you defend Hezzboolah who tortures and murders US soldlers tells alot about you.
Col Higgens got a lot worse than waterboarding.
Anyway the US is going to deploy 400 new ICBMs.
Russia is going to be broken again
30 years ago? Your use of present tense is disingenuous. Hezbollah isn’t a good actor. There aren’t any in the ME. But we should keep in mind the context. A invaded and destablized Lebanon.
The US should stay out of these conflicts. Reagan got it right when he pulled out.
Much of what you stated is correct. However you ought talk to the others on this site. They support and apologize fir Hezzbollah
https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/profile-imad-mugniyah
Hizzbollah and Al Qadia
Hezbollah also helped kill US soldiers in Iraq. They also taught Al Qaida how to build explosives
The present tense was ok
And Israel has helped al Quaeda. Who killed US troops and citizens. And no. Shia militia oppose Sunni Jihadists.
Do your handlers actually read some of the stuff you write? They might want to hire someone that is better at this.
Show that Israel helped Al Qaeda.
Back it up
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2007/07/02/world/africa/02iht-iraq.1.6442071.html
1. US intelligence in Iraq or the ME isn’t reliable. But your claim was Hezbollah aided al Qaeda. Unlikely as the civil war in Iraq had them on opposite sides.
2. Although it is likely Iran aided Shia militia in Iraq, the US was the invader.
The US public was lied to. The Israeli government was complicit in this deception. Netanyahu claimed WMD proof. Internal Israeli intelligence sources later confirmed that the proof never existed. Netanyahu knew it was a lie. This war cost the US thousands of lives and trillions of dollars. Proof that Israel is not a friend of the US. Or, at least, with friends like this, who needs enemies?
Note; I would take no satisfaction in the blowback from the likely realization of how Israel has manipulated the US and done grave damage to this nation. Likely the population of Israel is in the grip of those that will cause harm to that population also.
Hizbollah taught Al Qadia to bild bombs
Then Hizbpllah Iran helped attack US soldiers in Iraq. They were foreigbers and invaders too
Netanyahoo was not in power in Israel in 2003
There were many rrasons why the US invaded Iraq not only Israel.
You areanother who is obessed with Isreal whiling making gexcuses for Iran and Hizbollah
Right. Netanyahu had no connections with the Israeli government. You actually believe that? And I never claimed Netanyahu was in the Israeli government. But his public statements pre US invasion are clear. He claimed https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=netanyahu+claimed+wmd+in+iraq&&view=detail&mid=DE61160A7953F83193ADDE61160A7953F83193AD&&FORM=VRDGAR
“no questions” that Iraq had an ongoing nuclear and WMD program Netanyahu claimed in 2002. A lie.
Nope. Hezbollah fought al-Qaeda in the Iraq civil war. You do know the difference between between Sunni and Shia right? Repeating a claim doesn’t make it true.
By the way, al-Qaeda wasn’t in Iraq until the US intervention in 2003. An Iran wasn’t Iraq until AFTER the US invaded Iraq.
I make no excuses for Hezbollah or Iran. I point out facts.
There were no other valid reasons for the US to invade Iraq in 2003. It was not in the interests of the American people. Israel pushed for the intervention. The results were a disaster. Except for Israel and Saudi Arabia. Now both are pushing for war on Iran. If Israel and the Saudis want a war with Iran they should fight it themselves. You too.
Hizzbollah and Iran helped kill US soldiers in Iraq
They also taught Al Qaida to build bombs.
https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/profile-imad-mugniyah
Al Qadia and Hizzbollah teamed up agaist the US
There were a lot of reasons to invade Iraq.
Not good enough reasons to invade
Daddam never gave up his war. Was reason..he continued to threaten Kuwai
At any rate the best way to bust the M E was alternative Eneergy said so then
Abstract: The relationship between Iran and al-Qa`ida goes back at least a quarter of a century, but it remains one of the most understudied and poorly understood chapters in the history and evolution of the jihadi organization founded by Usama bin Ladin. Recently declassified letters seized in 2011 from bin Ladin’s Abbottabad hideout and U.S. government and court documents, however, have shed some additional light on their partnership. The existing information suggests that the relationship is best understood as a “tactical cooperation”—one that, despite the intervention of Iran and its proxies in opposition to al-Qa`ida in the Syrian civil war, is likely to continue for as long as the parties perceive the benefits of cooperation to exceed the costs.
https://ctc.usma.edu/marriage-of-convenience-the-evolution-of-iran-and-al-qaidas-tactical-cooperation/
Please show where I called for a war against Iran.
Khamani is evil but he will leave the world eventually . 60% of Iran’s population has zero memory of the Shah . If the US plays its cards right they might get a government friendly to the US in 12 years or so,
The US now has the most pro US regime in the history of Saudi . The US could get something like that in Iran.
When Trump got out of the Iran deal Khamani was happy . Now he has someone to blame for Iran’s problems.
Do you think that Israel would be ignored in a nuclear confrontation?
How about Israel fighting it’s own wars and leave the US out of it? Do you really think that the US public will always be deluded and deceived into believing Israeli and US interests align? Seriously, best not to over play a hand. The blowback would not benefit either country.
What are you responing to about nukes. I just know that many of the posters here support Putin and hope he will crush the US.
I sont care much for Israel or thier government.
It is just the Hezzbollah love that is disquieting
As for the rest i dont know what you are talking about. Please make it clear
Hizzbollah started most of those wars
Good. Glad to see them win the election. Even the Christian president, Aoun, is thankful for their presence in south Lebanon that keeps the Zionists from invading yet again.
HEZBOLLAH SMUGGLED TONS OF COCAINE INTO THE U.S. DURING OBAMA ADMINISTRATION, REPORT REVEALS
http://www.newsweek.com/hezbollah-cocaine-smuggle-united-states-obama-751928
Do you have something against cocaine, or the freedom to use it?
I think people shold not use drugs but criminalzing their use only makes gangsters rich.
The war on drugs is a terrible waste of resources.
If so, that means more hooked and dead Amerikastanis. Which is fine with me.
Stern, huh? Do you hold a zionazi pseudostate passport?
Question “Stern, huh?”
I am not completely sure with why you said this . Would you mind explaining further?
Thank you in advance.
For the record
Jihadi Colin: wrote in response to :
“HEZBOLLAH SMUGGLED TONS OF COCAINE INTO THE U.S. DURING OBAMA ADMINISTRATION, REPORT REVEALS”
“If so, that means more hooked and dead Amerikastanis. Which is fine with me.”
Case closed.
I’ve never hidden my opinion of Amerikastanis and zioscum including on antiwar. Your point, zio?
Glad you shared your opinions they explain you ( and quite a few others here as well)
Fake news, obvious neocon fix up.
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/oct/22/world/fg-cocainering22
“allegedly”
In other words they have no evidence but really, really want to point fingers at their geopolitical rivals
Joint US-Colombia probe exposes vast Hezbollah crime network in Americas: report04/09/20188:04:31 PMUPDATED ON04/09/20188:31:53 PMWritten byi24NEWSn this Sept. 17, 2012 file photo, Hezbollah leader Sheik Hassan Nasrallah, center, escorted by his bodyguards, waves to a crowd of tens of thousands of supporters during a rally denouncing an anti-Islam film that has provoked a week of unrest in Muslim co
(AP Photo/Hussein Malla, File)Hezbollah’s activities abroad has long been known to the Israelis as well as the US
A report from a joint investigation between the US Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) and Colombian intelligence reveals that Hezbollah, under orders from Iran, is responsible for trafficking drugs, laundering money, and recruiting possible ‘lone wolf attackers’ in Colombia.The Colombian media outlet Infobae reported that the investigation, which has been under way for more than three years, concluded that the Lebanese paramilitary group is operating in the south American country under the name Organization for External Security (ECO), which in reality is Hezbollah’s ‘Unit 910’, a foreign operations apparatus responsible for carrying out terrorist attacks around the world.ECO has reportedly been cooperating with the Colombian drug cartel, Oficina de Envigado, which was created in the 1990’s as an enforcement to Pablo Escobar’s Medellin cartel.
https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/uploads/Levitt20120900_1.pdf
https://blog.politicsmeanspolitics.com/why-is-hezbollah-involved-in-mexicos-drug-war-ee64e6c902b9
http://www.businessinsider.com/lulzsec-leak-reveals-terrifying-ties-between-hezbollah-and-mexicos-drug-cartels-2011-7
/2008/10/22/world/americas/22colombia.html
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2008/10/22/world/americas/22colombia.html
https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/12/22/politico-obama-administration-stalled-hezbollah-investigation/
In other words lots of claims by people with a vested interest in trying to get America to attack Hezbollah, seeing as Israel’s war of aggression failed.
Hezzbollah has a long history or terror and drugs.
…made up by the pro-Israeli spin doctors
prove it.
I think most alternative news sites are nothing more than political advocacy masquerading as honest reporting.
I think you are a pro Hizzbollah apologist. Even better I am so happy the US is going to deploy 400 new ICBMs . They will be better than the SS-28
No, the burden of proof is on the accuser – i.e. the lying neocon warmongering shills.
you said made up by the pro-Israeli spin doctors
You made the accusation now prove it
Politico: Obama’s Department of Justice Stalled Hezbollah Investigation to Secure Nuclear Deal with Iran
A covert DEA investigation into a Hezbollah drug smuggling operation was halted, allegedly, to aid the Obama administration’s nuclear deal with Iran.
https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/12/22/politico-obama-administration-stalled-hezbollah-investigation/
Yeah, all the evidence is there with Saddam’s WMDs
Saddam did have WMDs he used them to kill the Kurds. I was against the Iraq war . I wanted to spend the money on alternative energy . Invading Iraq was not a very good way to bust the mid east it only took care of Iraq I thought.
Anyway Bathists , Khomeni followers and Al Qaedists are all fascist bigots. So are many of their apologists.
So are neo-conservatives.
So is your political group
International drug smuggling operation founded by mastermind of bombing of Beirut bombing that killed 241 US marines in 1983
The organisation is now expected to be working with the Zetas cartel to smuggle tonnes of cocaine into the United States
One of the world’s top cocaine traffickers called ‘The Ghost’ is a Hezbollah operative
Same man accused of selling chemical weapons to Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad
Hezbollah launders its drugs profits by allegedly shipping used cars from America to Africa and selling them
Money laundering also takes place through South America, the Middle East and the US
Lebanese arms dealer Ali Fayad is a suspected top Hezbollah operative, according to Politico, and is believed to report to Vladimir Putin
Fayad is accused of plotting the murder of American government workers
Venezuala’s vice president Tareck El Aissami is believed to be deeply involved in cocaine trafficking and is an ally of Hezbollah
Hezbollah is believed to be providing weapons and training to anti-American Shiite militias
An alleged Hezbollah drugs kingpin is based in Colombia and is accused of working with the Zetas cartel to smuggle cocaine into the US
Proceeds from the operations were allegedly used to design new IEDs that killed US troops in Iraq
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5190451/Obama-administration-SABOTAGED-operation-stop-Hezbollah.html#ixzz5Ewwt9Ec0
The Beirut bombing of 1983 was before Hezbollah was founded.
Done by Hizzboolah
You can fantasise all you like, it doesn’t change the real world
1982 un offically
South American with ties to Hezbollah tried to ship cocaine to U.S. — Now he’s in prison
convicted in a US court
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article190875044.html
I proved something you proved nothing Hizzbollah apologist
Fake news.
“a Paraguayan of Lebanese descent who is close to a network of relatives linked to Hezbollah”
Relatives linked to does not equal organised by. Is every American convicted of drug smuggling a government agent?
he was convicted . what you post is fake news.
Anyway
https://blog.politicsmeanspolitics.com/why-is-hezbollah-involved-in-mexicos-drug-war-ee64e6c902b9
Lots of Americans are convicted of crimes around the world. By your logic, that is evidence that America is a criminal regime.
Worldwide drug trafficking ring ‘links Hezbollah to Latin American cartels’
Members of Hezbollah’s European arm have been arrested by the US Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), on suspicion of using millions of dollars from cocaine sales to buy weapons in Syria
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/worldwide-drug-trafficking-ring-links-hezbollah-to-latin-american-cartels-a6849141.html
Yes, fake news spreads to lots of websites.
The fake news is what the alternative websites say
This is who Hizzbollah is
Robert Dean Stethem
SW2 Robert Stethem.jpg
Born November 17, 1961
Waterbury, Connecticut, U.S.
Died June 15, 1985 (aged 23)
Beirut, Lebanon
Resting place Arlington National Cemetery
Arlington County, Virginia
Section 59, Grave 430 (38.8780°N 77.0658°W)
Allegiance United States of America
Service/branch United States Navy
Years of service 1980–85
Rank USN CUCM.png MCPO collar.png Rating Badge ND.jpg Master chief constructionman (CUCM)
Second-class diver (DV)
Unit Underwater Construction
Team ONE (UCT-ONE)
Awards
Bronze Star Medal ribbon.svg Bronze Star
Purple Heart ribbon.svg Purple Heart
Robert Dean Stethem (November 17, 1961 – June 15, 1985) was a United States Navy Seabee diver who was murdered by Hezbollah terrorists during the hijacking of the commercial airliner he was aboard, TWA Flight 847.[1] At the time of his death, his Navy rating was Steelworker Second Class (SW2). He was posthumously promoted to Master Chief Constructionman (CUCM).[2]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Stethem
Okay, I’ll use the correct term. Propaganda. Quit it with the Propaganda.
Propaganda is what comes out of your mouth.
And you dont decide what can be posted. If you can not handle yourself here what are you going to do when you post on a mainstream media site?
Propaganda is the story your own side uses to convince you they’re right.
This anti Hezbollah rubbish is what the Zionist and neocons tell Western audiences to explain away their violence and aggression towards Lebanon.
Hezzboolah is a terror hate group. The entire world knows it. Even as far away Argentina they know it
Not propaganda
TWA flight 787
Neo con propaganda
Beirut International Airport was surrounded by a Shia neighborhood. It had no perimeter security, which had been over-run by Islamic militias, and nearby residents could simply drive onto the runway.
The hijackers had systematically and regularly beaten all the military passengers, but during this stop they selected U.S. Navy diver, Robert Stethem, beat him, shot him in the right temple, and dumped his body out of the plane onto the ramp and shot him again, seeking permission from other Shia Muslims operating the control tower to obtain more fuel. Seven American passengers, alleged to have Jewish-sounding surnames, were taken off the jet and held hostage in a Shia prison in Beirut.[9]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TWA_Flight_847
Story telling does not equal argument.
Hizzbollah your friends tortued and killed Robet Stethem
That tells us all there is about you
The entire world knows Hizzbollah is a terror group They even think so in Argentina
Flight 787 hijacked by Hezbollah.
They did far worse than waterboarding.
And you apologize for that terror hate group
America does worse than waterboarding. It does cluster bombs, napalm, nukes.
The cold war was defensive. So was the war on terror. It saved many people or even the world from Stalin , Kim Il Sung , Saddam Hussein , Khomeni and the USSR.
Why blame the US for deal them?
America armed Saddam and let him gas Kurds and Iranians.
America overthrew the democracy in Iran in the 1950s.
America murdered a million Vietnamese with napalm, cluster bombs and other violence.
I have nothing against America, if only they would stop the violence and aggression.
Khomneni was a mass killer himself.
Please be against the US .
Who the duck would want you as a friend?
Addition by subtraction
The US messed up big in Iran but overall the cold war was just and Khomeni was a mass killer.
Hizzbollah are drug smugglers
The only conspiacy is by the Hezzbollah aplogists
Americans are the world’s number 1 drug smugglers.
Prove that and Hizbollah which is an organization are drug smugglers
Israel hits Hizzbollah cause Hizzbollah attacks Israel.
According to you Hizzbollah can attack Israel as much as they want but if Israel hits them it is “aggression”.
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2017/12/29/op-ed-hezbollahs-global-criminal-empire.html
Worldwide drug trafficking ring ‘links Hezbollah to Latin American cartels’
Members of Hezbollah’s European arm have been arrested by the US Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), on suspicion of using millions of dollars from cocaine sales to buy weapons in Syria
ARRESTED
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/worldwide-drug-trafficking-ring-links-hezbollah-to-latin-american-cartels-a6849141.html
https://www.thedailybeast.com/content/newsweek/2011/10/16/libya-gaddafi-s-reign-of-terror.html
HoCh Minn was a mass killer
His invasion of South Vietnam was illeagal
Saddam wa a mass killer
Khomeni was a mass killer
So glad the u s busted the USSR. We are going to to do it again
Next time Hizzbollah and Israel fight
let them fight no forced UN ceasefires
Lets see who wins
Keep dreaming of violence, I’m sure your type get off on it
So good the US busted the USSR
Arms race Russia bust them again
The US has lost every war it’s fought since 9/11
The stanfards for the zu S winning are high. But i am glad you are the enemy. It would be terrible if you were a friend
Anyway the US will win in afghanistan when the robot weapons are introduced See Boston Dynamics and General Autonomics
You’re free to consider me your enemy. I don’t consider you an enemy though. I consider you an ignorant child.
“War of aggression” is Israel hitting Hizzbollah when Hizzbollah hit first.
Israel doesn’t need the US to deal with Hizzbollah . Actually they do all they do is for the US to give Israel 90 days to hit Hezzbollah hard. You see every time Israel hits Hizzbollah the world calls for and forces a cease fire.
Let them them both fight until the end. Then the outcome would be clear. What do you say?
But anyway I think the best thing is just to let Israel hit Hizzbollah with everything they got and not force a ceasefire next time.
Saddam / Iran and Syria would crush Hizzbollah in few weeks cause they don’t hold back.
Israel lost in 2006. They’ll attack next when they want to lose again.
Let both sides fight no un forced cease fires
See what happens then
There was no UN forced ceasefire.
Israel fights by murdering civilians. They murdered 1000 Lebanese last time.
They don’t know how to fight real soldiers, they just massacre civilians to get their way
Israel was pressured to stop.Like they always are
Hiizzboolah hides behind civilians
Let them fight next time all. No calling for ceasefires.
Then lets see what happens
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceasefire_attempts_during_the_2006_Lebanon_War
Crease fire attempts
The guy found the cap key. Congrats!
Hezbollah lover
Israel and ecstasy:
https://www.haaretz.com/1.4723857
Iran-Contra-Gary Webb:
https://www.thenation.com/article/new-york-times-wants-gary-webb-stay-dead/
Killing Hope, by William Blum, excerpt: If you flip over the rock of American foreign policy of the past century, this is what crawls out… invasions … bombings … overthrowing governments … occupations … suppressing movements for social change … assassinating political leaders … perverting elections … manipulating labor unions … manufacturing “news” … death squads … torture … biological warfare … depleted uranium … drug trafficking … mercenaries …
https://williamblum.org/books/killing-hope
William Blum ha
You keep saying you are going and yet you are still here? You obviously do not agree with the positions of this anti war website. William Blum is Jewish just like you but he has a hell of lot more honesty and charism than you do Mr. Stern. Be well and do try and find a higher path… A larger war is coming. And you will be held responsible.
The cold war was defensive
Russia is responsible for North Korea
The United States indicted Mughniyeh (and his alleged collaborator, Hassan Izz al-Din) for 14 June 1985 hijacking of TWA Flight 847, in which he tortured and murdered the U.S. Navy personnel Robert Stethem.[36] Mughniyeh and his men allegedly tortured Stethem for hours, before killing him and dumping his body onto the airport tarmac.[30]
U.S. and Israeli officials have also alleged that Mughniyeh was involved in numerous kidnappings of Westerners in Beirut during the 1980s, most notably the kidnapping of Terry Anderson, Terry Waite, and William Francis Buckley, who was the CIA station chief in Beirut. Some of these individuals were killed by Mughniyeh directly , such as Buckley, who was brutally tortured and eventually murdered under his watch.[37] The remainder were released at various times with the last one, Terry Anderson, released in 1991.[38] On 30 September 1985, Mughniyeh allegedly organized the kidnapping of four diplomats from the Soviet Embassy in Beirut, one of whom he personally killed. The result of the kidnapping was Soviet pressure on Syria to stop its operations in Northern Lebanon in exchange for release of the remaining three hostages.[39]
Mughniyeh was formally charged by Argentina for his alleged involvement in 17 March 1992 bombings of the Israeli embassy in Buenos Aires, which killed 29 and the AMIA cultural building in July 1994, killing 85 people.[40] In March 2007, the Interpol issued “red notices” for his and others’ alleged roles in the attack.[41]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imad_Mughniyah
More good reasons to cut ties to Israel.
What does Hezbollah have to offer anyone.
The US got the oiil.
Putin cant get his oil out of the ground
Hezzbollah criminals
And you apologize for those criminals
I think it’s quite likely Hezbollah will ask Hariri to say on as PM. It would give the impression of government by consensus, help the country deal with international organisations, and to raise money from sponsors. As the saying goes, keep your friends close and your enemies even closer.
Lebanon has managed to keep it together because of the combined forces between the Christians and Hezbollah. Let us not forget… They managed to kick Israel’s ass.
Not what Ribert Fisk says anyway were Israel like Assad or Iran Hizbollah would be all dead now
Israel pulled their punches
I can certainly respect language differences Jonathan but this makes no sense at all. (Spell check works pretty well…)
Robert Fisk. (A well known journalist…)
Altogether, your statement makes no bloody sense. (!)
Isrealis doesnot always equal Israel.
If an Italian sells drugs that does not mean Italy was involved.
Except for Syrian girl most radical women are ugly
I cannot help myself here Jonathan but “truth is the new sexy” and Syrian girl is all that. 🙂
There are a lot of ‘sexy’ people here at AWC and I do wish that you were one of us…
Everytime you look at the demos . the girls are yuck
Khomeini fatwa ‘led to killing of 30,000 in Iran’
By Christina Lamb, Diplomatic Correspondent12:00AM GMT 04 Feb 2001
CHILDREN as young as 13 were hanged from cranes, six at a time, in a barbaric two-month purge of Iran’s prisons on the direct orders of Ayatollah Khomeini, according to a new book by his former deputy.
More than 30,000 political prisoners were executed in the 1988 massacre – a far larger number than previously suspected. Secret documents smuggled out of Iran reveal that, because of the large numbers of necks to be broken, prisoners were loaded onto forklift trucks in groups of six and hanged from cranes in half-hourly intervals.
Gruesome details are contained in the memoirs of Grand Ayatollah Hossein-Ali Montazeri, The Memoirs of Grand Ayatollah Hossein Ali Montazeri, one of the founders of the Islamic regime. He was once considered Khomeini’s anointed successor, but was deposed for his outspokenness, and is now under house arrest in the holy city of Qom.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/1321090/Khomeini-fatwa-led-to-killing-of-30000-in-Iran.html
Dear Anti-War.Com:
I have defended, repeatedly, that this website supports free speech and yet one of my posts, innocuous at best, is gone?! Another is under review, also innocuous. Is this a Disqus thing? If so maybe time to rethink that as a venue for free speech. (Yet Mr. Stern is tying up the bandwidth?) best-dv
One of your posts was automatically held for review because it tripped a guidelines filter. Not all posts which trip those filters actually violate the guidelines, and I rescue the ones that don’t when I come by to check several times a day.
As to a post that just disappeared, I have not idea what might have happened. I just looked through posts deleted in the last few days and none of them were from you. Nor are there any from you caught in the spam filters.
I assume that most people at Antiwar.com support free speech. But a right of free speech doesn’t include an unlimited right to use other people’s resources. Antiwar.com does have rules, just like you presumably have rules (e.g. drunk guys can’t bellow the Gettysburg Address at 3am in your living room or you will escort them to the door).
I appreciate your response Thomas but maybe you all need to get after Jonathan Stern because he seems to be abusing the rules and very much so. 😉
anyone you don’t like is abusing the rules.
any view you don’t like is fake news.
What are you going to do when you post on a mainstream media site? If you are complaining and feel pressure here then what are you going to do there.
Which rules do you think he is abusing? Semi-literate, barely competent trolling isn’t against the rules here.
I need to add this, if anyone gets drunk in my living room and can recite the Gettysburg address, they will get a door prize, not the door. best-dv