New details continue to emerge on the Pentagon draft proposal on changes to American nuclear policy. This policy would see a focus on acquiring new types of nuclear weapons, with an eye toward more usable ones for limited nuclear wars.
This is something some in the US military brass have been pushing for years, with an eye toward the acquisition of “low-yield” nuclear weapons that officials could readily use in situations where they would currently be unthinkable.
This is now said to include not just the acquisition of these new nuclear arms for more limited and frequent nuclear wars, but also revisions of nuclear policy that would dramatically relax restrictions on such strikes.
With the US spending preposterously large amounts of money on nuclear arms, some bureaucrats are galled at the fact that they get essentially no use out of them. In making smaller, more easily used nuclear arms, however, the US may ultimately end up normalizing nuclear wars, something that would have huge implications.
It´s stupid and crazy. If we don´t get rid of nuclear weapons, they will get rid of us. Always some 50,000 survivors in the mountains-www.mcremo.com They haven´t got any brains ! Except for chief submarine missile engineer Bob Aldridge-www.plrc.org who resigned and wrote The Counterforce Syndrome, First Strike! The Pentagon´s Strategy For Nuclear War and Nuclear Empire (ch.9 on Anti-Submarine Warfare). Suicidal fools !
The “We have all these nukes, why can’t we kill someone” lament. The Pentagon has gone batshít crazy. President Wackadoo Moments I have no hope for. Hell, at least go back to Department of War.
I’m having a Godfather flashback. The US will be outcasts. The entire world would turn against us.
No we don’t all have Nukes were trying to prevent North Korea and Iran from obtaining them as well but, when we try to reach a deal like we did with North Korea they just take our food and money and run. We’ve been burned by the North Koreans for decades and now that there dictator is threatening us with mass nuclear destruction we’ve got no choice but to prepare a response.America is damned if they do and damned if they don’t on this forum. People say well North Korea is developing Nukes as a deterrent than those same people are criticizing America for having our own nuclear weapons as a deterrent. I know it’s hard for people on this forum to understand America has powerful enemies and has a duty to protect it’s citizens at all costs, nuclear weapons included.
“We’ve been burned by the North Koreans for decades” God, you are delusional.
Says the person that knows North Korea has been given countless opportunities to not even give up but, freeze it’s nuclear weapons program in exchange for food and money, lots of money yet always resorts to re-nigging on it’s agreements and now is threatening to Nuke our country and allies but, hey I’m the delusional one. I’m just giving you facts and you come back with conspiracy theories and spin what to believe a biased person spinning his talking points our my own ears and eyes. When Kim Jong Un threatens to Nuke America I take him at his word I don’t know why that’s so hard for you to believe, can anyone say “Delusional” you hear the words coming out his mouth but, still can’t believe what he’s saying.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/north-korea-missile-test-us-1994-agreed-framework-pyongyang-programme-kim-jong-un-donald-trump-a7876446.html
If I’m not mistaken didn’t North Korea shoot off the cameras that where being used to monitor it’s nuclear weapons program. Facts.
Don’t say “if I’m not mistaken…” and then say they’re facts.
you are an apologist for the regime in North Korea. Why don’t you take a trip there.
How so? Am I an apologist for Iran if I say the US is reneging on that nuke deal? If you want to compare the two countries objectively regarding our attempted nuke deals then you can’t possibly say NK out reneged us. We’ve had 4 presidents since ’94 and several shifts in power in congress so that our policies have been ever changing depending on who is in the white house. The only common denominator since Clinton is the belligerency of the rhetoric coming out of Washington especially the “axis of evil” bulls**t.
Why would I want to take a trip there and what does that have to do with anything? If I question anything my country does to another country means I must go visit that country? You a** kissing neocons amuse me..
I know it’s hard for you to believe America tried diplomacy because you want everyone else to believe we never gave peace a chance and you have an anti-America bias but, facts are facts. In North Korea Kim Jong Un was born on a magical mystical mountain and has special powers, those are your kind of facts and those are the people you defend.
I said you are an apologist for North Korea. Not sure about Iran but I would not put it past you..
North Korea ‘s government is evil that is why they blow up air planes.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-22244337
Ok.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655
accident versus intentional
North Korea blew up a South Korea jet liner intentionally.
Yeah right. We’re on the other side of the world in Iranian waters and we just happen to mistake a fighter plane for an airliner. Not to mention we just got done supporting SADDAM against Iran in that brutal 8 year war. We also agree to pay millions although we still admit no wrongdoing. We’re exceptional that way.
It was a tragedy but the US supported Saddam because Iran was engaged in a low level war against the US and trying to take over the mid east to gain it oil break the west.
You mean because the US helped overthrow their democratically elected government in 1953 and installed the brutal Shah who ruled with an iron fist for 26 years? How dare them.
so they engaged in terror against the US and other counties in the region.
Ah an apologist for Irainian terror
Iran’s Timeline of Terror
I followed the link at the end of the article to his essay published September 11, 2007 at The Claremont Institute. “Iran’s Proxy War Against America, (PDF)” covers the evidence of Iranian links to al Qaeda and other terrorist groups regardless of their Sunni, Shiite or Palestinian sympathies. ……
November 4, 1979
Fifty-two American citizens are taken hostage by “students” loyal to Ayatollah Khomeini. They are held for more than a year, until January 20, 1981. The kidnappings are part of the Iranian revolution, which serves as a model for Sunni terrorist groups like Ayman al-Zawahiri’s Egyptian Islamic Jihad.
April 18, 1983
Iran’s master terrorist, Imad Mugniyah, orchestrates the first significant Islamist suicide attack against America: the bombing of the U.S. Embassy in Beirut. Establishing a modus operandi for terrorists in the years to come, the attacker utilizes a van packed with explosives.
October 23, 1983 Using massive truck bombs, Hezbollah’s suicide bombers simultaneously attack the U.S. Marine Barracks and a housing complex for French Paratroopers in Beirut, Lebanon. Al-Qaeda would later adopt simultaneous suicide bombings as its preferred method for committing attacks.
December 12, 1983
Iranian-backed terrorists bomb the U.S. Embassy in Kuwait. A close relative of Imad Mugniyah is convicted by a Kuwaiti court and sentenced to death for his role in the bombing. Other attackers,
also supported by Iran, are imprisoned. The terrorists come to be known as the “Kuwait 17” or “Dawa 17.” 75 iran’s proxy war against america
March 16, 1984
William Buckley, the CIA’s station chief in Beirut, is kidnapped and later tortured-to-death by Imad Mugniyah’s Hezbollah. Buckley’s kidnapping is one in a series of Hezbollah’s kidnappings from the early 1980s through the early 1990s. Dozens of Americans are kidnapped and Hezbollah frequently demands an exchange for the Kuwait 17. Hezbollah’s kidnappings lead to the biggest scandal of President Ronald Reagan’s tenure, the Iran-Contra affair, after the Reagan administration agrees to exchange arms for the hostages.
September 20, 1984
Hezbollah terrorists strike the U.S. Embassy annex in Beirut with a truck bomb.
December 3, 1984
Mugniyah’s operatives hijack Kuwait Airways Flight 221. The hijackers attempt to barter for the release of the Kuwait 17.
June 14, 1985
Mugniyah’s terrorists hijack TWA Flight 847. Once again, the hijackers attempt to barter for the release of the Kuwait 17. When the hijackers’ demands are denied, they beat and kill a U.S. Navy serviceman, Robert Dean Stethem, who happened to be on the flight. Incredibly, Germany granted parole to one of the hijackers in December 2005.
According to Ali Mohamed, a top al-Qaeda operative in U.S. custody, Ayman al-Zawahiri’s Egyptian Islamic Jihad partners with Iran in a planned coup attempt in Egypt. Tehran trains EIJ terrorists for the coup attempt, which is ultimately aborted. Iran also pays al-Zawahiri $2 million for sensitive information concerning 76 national security studies the Egyptian Government’s plans to raid several islands in the Persian Gulf.
1991
Iran and Sudan, then the world’s only Islamist states, forge a strategic alliance. They begin to jointly export terrorism throughout the world.
April 1991
Hassan al-Turabi hosts the first Popular Arab Islamic Conference in Sudan. The conference provides a forum for disparate forces in the Middle East who oppose American presence in the region to come together. Al-Qaeda, Hezbollah, Iraqi and Iranian representatives all attend the meeting.
February 26, 1993
Terrorists connected to al-Qaeda and the global terror network bomb the World Trade Center using a rental truck packed with explosives. The bombers’ colleagues plot a follow-on attack against landmarks in the NYC area. There is no known evidence that Iran had a hand in these events. It is clear, however, that several of the plotters had ties to Hassan al-Turabi’s Sudan. Sheikh Omar Abdel-Rahman, the spiritual leader of the two leading Egyptian terrorist groups (both of which will join al- Qaeda) and who was living in the New York metropolitan area, is later convicted for his involvement in the attacks. Reports surface that he and his organization received financial assistance from Iran.
1993
According to Ali Mohamed, Imad Mugniyah and Osama bin Laden meet in Sudan. Bin Laden expresses his desire to model al- Qaeda after Hezbollah. In particular, bin Laden expresses interest in Mugniyah’s bombing of the U.S. Embassy in Beirut in 1983 77 iran’s proxy war against america and similar attacks. They agree to work together against America and the West.
1993
According to Jamal al-Fadl, an al-Qaeda operative in U.S. custody, bin Laden meets a leading Iranian sheikh in Sudan. The purpose of the meeting is to put aside any differences between their competing brands of Islam in order to come together against their common enemy: the West. The meeting is just the first of several between bin Laden and Iran’s spiritual leaders.
1993
Hezbollah and the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps train al- Qaeda’s terrorists in camps in Sudan, Lebanon and Iran. Among the terrorists trained are some of bin Laden’s most trusted lieutenants and al-Qaeda’s future leaders.
1993
Egypt and Algeria cut off diplomatic ties with Iran. Both nations accuse Iran and Sudan of supporting Sunni terrorism, including terrorist groups affiliated with al-Qaeda. Egypt will blame Iran for supporting both the Egyptian Islamic Jihad and the Islamic Group throughout the 1990’s.
November 13, 1995
Two bombs are detonated, nearly simultaneously, at the Saudi National Guard training facility in Riyadh, killing five Americans. The suspects are captured and confess to being inspired by Osama bin Laden. Bin Laden denies responsibility, but praises the attack. It is likely al-Qaeda’s first terrorist attack inside the Saudi Kingdom. 78 national security studies
November 19, 1995
An al-Qaeda suicide bomber destroys the Egyptian Embassy in Islamabad, Pakistan. The CIA’s Bob Baer later learns that Mugniyah’s deputy assisted al-Qaeda in the attack and that one of bin Laden’s top terrorists remained in contact with Mugniyah’s offi ce months afterwards.
May 1996
Bin Laden is expelled from Sudan, but the 9/11 Commission reports that “intelligence indicates the persistance of contacts” between al-Qaeda and Iran even after al-Qaeda’s relocation to Afghanistan. Bin Laden and al-Qaeda maintain an ongoing presence in Sudan, despite not being “formally” welcome.
June 21 – 23, 1996
Tehran hosts a summit for the leading Sunni and Shiite terrorist groups. It is announced that the terrorists will continue to focus on U.S. interests thoughout the region. Mugniyah, bin Laden, and a leading member of the EIJ reportedly forge the “Committee of Three,” under the leadership of Iran’s intelligence chief, to focus their joint efforts against American targets.
June 25, 1996
Hezbollah terrorists, operating under the direction of senior Iranian officials, bomb the Khobar Towers apartment complex in Saudi Arabia. Contemporaneous reports by both the State Department and the CIA note that al-Qaeda is also suspected of playing a role. The 9/11 Commission would later find “indirect evidence” of al-Qaeda’s involvement. The evidence includes intelligence indicating that al-Qaeda was planning a similar operation in the months prior and that bin Laden was congratulated by other al-Qaeda operatives, including Ayman al-Zawahiri, shortly after the attack. 79 iran’s proxy war against america
July 1996
According to Bob Baer, the Egyptian Islamic Group—an ally of bin Laden’s al-Qaeda—is in contact with Mugniyah.
1996
According to Bob Baer, there is “incontrovertible evidence” of a meeting between bin Laden and a representative of the Iranian Ministry of Intelligence and Security (MOIS).
August 7, 1998
Al-Qaeda’s suicide bombers simultaneously destroy the U.S. Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. It is al-Qaeda’s most spectacular attack prior to 9/11. The attack is clearly modeled on Hezbollah’s attacks in the early 1980s. Indeed, the al-Qaeda terrorists responsible were trained by Hezbollah in the early 1990s. There is evidence that Iran also provided explosives used in the attack.
October – November 2000
Imad Mugniyah and his lieutenants personally escort several of the 9/11 muscle hijackers out of Saudi Arabia on flights to Beirut and Iran. In all, eight to ten of the hijackers travel through Iran on the way to 9/11.
December 2000
Ramzi Binalshibh, al-Qaeda’s key point man for the 9/11 plot, applies for visa at the Iranian Embassy in Berlin. His visa application is approved.
January 31, 2001
Ramzi Binalshibh arrives at Tehran International airport. He does not return to Germany until February 28, 2001. The purpose of his trip to Iran remains a mystery. The 9/11 Commission does not mention Binalshibh’s trip to Iran. 80 national security studies
Early September 2001
Binalshibh flees to Iran shortly before the 9/11 attacks.
September 11, 2001
Nineteen al-Qaeda hijackers execute al-Qaeda’s largest operation to date, killing nearly 3000 Americans. Many of the details surrounding the plot, including who financed the attack, remain a mystery.
October 2001
According to a high-level Taliban detainee at Gitmo, Iran offers the Taliban Government assistance in retreating from Afghanistan.
October 2001
Numerous press reports indicate that Iran aids the retreat of hundreds of al-Qaeda and Taliban members from Afghanistan. Some al-Qaeda operatives enjoy safehaven in Iran to this day. Among them is Said al-Adel, who is reportedly the third highest ranking member of al-Qaeda and was trained by Hezbollah during the early 1990s, and Saad bin Laden, Osama’s heir apparent.
April 11, 2002
Al-Qaeda carries out the first attack ordered by bin Laden since 9/11: a suicide bomber destroys a synagogue in Tunisia, killing nineteen people. According to NBC News, Saad bin Laden contacted the cell responsible for the attack from his safehaven in Iran. Suleiman Abu Ghaith, bin Laden’s spokesman, also claims al-Qaeda’s responsibility for the attack from his abode in Iran.
End of 2002 – Spring 2003
According to former Director of Central Intelligence George Tenet, senior al-Qaeda leaders discuss the acquisition of nuclear weapons from their safe haven in Iran. In fact, al-Qaeda’s “nuclear 81 iran’s proxy war against america chief,” Abdel al-Aziz al-Masri, is one of many senior terrorists living in Iran.
May 12, 2003
Under orders from Saif al-Adel and Saad bin Laden, who are operating from Iran, al-Qaeda’s terrorists simultaneously strike three separate housing complexes in Riyadh Saudi Arabia. Another al- Qaeda agent thought to be responsible for the attack flees to Iran before he can be captured.
May 16, 2003
One dozen al-Qaeda bombers attack several targets in Casablanca, Morocco. Saad bin Laden, living in Iran, is reportedly in contact with the cell shortly before the attack.
2004 – present
Iran supplies advanced IED technology to the insurgents in Iraq. There is growing evidence of Iranian support for both Sunni and Shiite insurgency groups in Iraq. Iran continues to harbor senior al-Qaeda leaders as the terrorist network reorganizes.
January 20, 2007
IRGC and Hezbollah terrorists kill five American soldiers in Karbala, Iraq
January 2007 – present
Numerous IRGC and Hezbollah terrorists, who are responsible for arming and training terrorist groups in Iraq, are captured by American and Iraqi forces. 82 national security studies.
http://demediacraticnation.blogspot.com/2007/10/irans-timeline-of-terror.html
Just curious how would you describe this?
Why does the US have to accept it?
“Just curious how would you describe this?”
Well, I’ll reply to one small piece of it, the 1983 Marine Barracks attack in Beirut.
Attacks on military targets aren’t “terrorism.”
That you apologize for Iran tells a lot about you. At any rate Iran has been engaged in a war against the US for a long time.
If the US government was overthrown by a foreign country and a vicious dictator was installed would you think the US would be justified in reacting? Or how about if a foreign country supplied weapons(including chemical weapons)to our bitter enemy which resulted in hundreds of thousands of our citizens dying in an eight year war? The US has been on a 17 year rampage for 3000 deaths, imagine what we’d had done if we had lost several hundred thousand. You are one of those types whose history book starts in 1979.
Khomeni was worse than the Shah
Khomeini fatwa ‘led to killing of 30,000 in Iran’
By Christina Lamb, Diplomatic Correspondent12:00AM GMT 04 Feb 2001
CHILDREN as young as 13 were hanged from cranes, six at a time, in a barbaric two-month purge of Iran’s prisons on the direct orders of Ayatollah Khomeini, according to a new book by his former deputy.
More than 30,000 political prisoners were executed in the 1988 massacre – a far larger number than previously suspected. Secret documents smuggled out of Iran reveal that, because of the large numbers of necks to be broken, prisoners were loaded onto forklift trucks in groups of six and hanged from cranes in half-hourly intervals.
Gruesome details are contained in the memoirs of Grand Ayatollah Hossein-Ali Montazeri, The Memoirs of Grand Ayatollah Hossein Ali Montazeri, one of the founders of the Islamic regime. He was once considered Khomeini’s anointed successor, but was
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/1321090/Khomeini-fatwa-led-to-killing-of-30000-in-Iran.html
Iran has been trying to capture the gulf since Khomeni came to power. Iran has been supporting terror since Khomeni came to power
LET IRAN GIVE UP THEIR WAR.
No one here defended Khomeni. This government is a RESULT of us installing the shah.
Iran started with the terror as soon as Khomeni came to pwoer
Well, the US informally declared war on Iran in 1953 when it overthrew that country’s government and installed a puppet dictator.
The war started running in both directions in 1979, when Iranians overthrew the puppet dictator, who fled to asylum in the US.
The US could end the war in six months, with the bonus of the mullahs being put out of power, by simply eliminating all sanctions and letting the Iranian people decide whether or no to let the mullahs keep them away from the newly available iPhones and blue jeans.
But the US doesn’t want to end the war, nor does it want to win the war. It just wants to keep the war going so that it has an excuse to continue transferring wealth from the pockets of the productive class to the bank accounts of “defense” contractors.
Khomeni was worse than the Shah. The conspiracy by the enemies of the US dwarfs anything done by the US government. By the way I know a lot about South Korea so I really hate being lectured by those on this site about Korea
저는 한국어 잘 합니다.
“I really hate being lectured by those on this site”
You know where the door is. Can’t stand the heat, feel free to get out of the kitchen.
you don’t get your Kangaroo court,
Not sure what you mean. There are rules here. I enforce them. There is no “court,” kangaroo or otherwise. You’ll follow the rules or you’ll be escorted out. Have a nice day.
Half of those are flat out bulls**t. We call Hezbollah terrorists but not MEK? And again, the US helped overthrew the democratically elected government of Iran and installed the vicious Shah for 26 years. The US also backed Saddam in the brutal 8 year war against Iran selling him chemical weapons(the same type weapons we wanted to attack Syria over). Although any type of terrorism is abhorrent(see the US backing the Saudis starvation of Yemen), it is the US meddling in Iran’s affairs for the last 60+ years that brought it about. Also notice the location of the alleged terrorists attacks. Imperialism has its perils.
I’m also curious as how a country can be so hypocritical and call out Iran for terrorism and yet be in bed with the country that had 15 out of the 19 hijackers in the biggest act of terrorism in our country’s history.
*disclaimer* The 19 hijackers being the “official story”.
Ah an apologist for Irainian terror
Iran’s Timeline of Terror
I followed the link at the end of the article to his essay published September 11, 2007 at The Claremont Institute. “Iran’s Proxy War Against America, (PDF)” covers the evidence of Iranian links to al Qaeda and other terrorist groups regardless of their Sunni, Shiite or Palestinian sympathies. ……
November 4, 1979
Fifty-two American citizens are taken hostage by “students” loyal to Ayatollah Khomeini. They are held for more than a year, until January 20, 1981. The kidnappings are part of the Iranian revolution, which serves as a model for Sunni terrorist groups like Ayman al-Zawahiri’s Egyptian Islamic Jihad.
April 18, 1983
Iran’s master terrorist, Imad Mugniyah, orchestrates the first significant Islamist suicide attack against America: the bombing of the U.S. Embassy in Beirut. Establishing a modus operandi for terrorists in the years to come, the attacker utilizes a van packed with explosives.
October 23, 1983 Using massive truck bombs, Hezbollah’s suicide bombers simultaneously attack the U.S. Marine Barracks and a housing complex for French Paratroopers in Beirut, Lebanon. Al-Qaeda would later adopt simultaneous suicide bombings as its preferred method for committing attacks.
December 12, 1983
Iranian-backed terrorists bomb the U.S. Embassy in Kuwait. A close relative of Imad Mugniyah is convicted by a Kuwaiti court and sentenced to death for his role in the bombing. Other attackers,
also supported by Iran, are imprisoned. The terrorists come to be known as the “Kuwait 17” or “Dawa 17.” 75 iran’s proxy war against america
March 16, 1984
William Buckley, the CIA’s station chief in Beirut, is kidnapped and later tortured-to-death by Imad Mugniyah’s Hezbollah. Buckley’s kidnapping is one in a series of Hezbollah’s kidnappings from the early 1980s through the early 1990s. Dozens of Americans are kidnapped and Hezbollah frequently demands an exchange for the Kuwait 17. Hezbollah’s kidnappings lead to the biggest scandal of President Ronald Reagan’s tenure, the Iran-Contra affair, after the Reagan administration agrees to exchange arms for the hostages.
September 20, 1984
Hezbollah terrorists strike the U.S. Embassy annex in Beirut with a truck bomb.
December 3, 1984
Mugniyah’s operatives hijack Kuwait Airways Flight 221. The hijackers attempt to barter for the release of the Kuwait 17.
June 14, 1985
Mugniyah’s terrorists hijack TWA Flight 847. Once again, the hijackers attempt to barter for the release of the Kuwait 17. When the hijackers’ demands are denied, they beat and kill a U.S. Navy serviceman, Robert Dean Stethem, who happened to be on the flight. Incredibly, Germany granted parole to one of the hijackers in December 2005.
According to Ali Mohamed, a top al-Qaeda operative in U.S. custody, Ayman al-Zawahiri’s Egyptian Islamic Jihad partners with Iran in a planned coup attempt in Egypt. Tehran trains EIJ terrorists for the coup attempt, which is ultimately aborted. Iran also pays al-Zawahiri $2 million for sensitive information concerning 76 national security studies the Egyptian Government’s plans to raid several islands in the Persian Gulf.
1991
Iran and Sudan, then the world’s only Islamist states, forge a strategic alliance. They begin to jointly export terrorism throughout the world.
April 1991
Hassan al-Turabi hosts the first Popular Arab Islamic Conference in Sudan. The conference provides a forum for disparate forces in the Middle East who oppose American presence in the region to come together. Al-Qaeda, Hezbollah, Iraqi and Iranian representatives all attend the meeting.
February 26, 1993
Terrorists connected to al-Qaeda and the global terror network bomb the World Trade Center using a rental truck packed with explosives. The bombers’ colleagues plot a follow-on attack against landmarks in the NYC area. There is no known evidence that Iran had a hand in these events. It is clear, however, that several of the plotters had ties to Hassan al-Turabi’s Sudan. Sheikh Omar Abdel-Rahman, the spiritual leader of the two leading Egyptian terrorist groups (both of which will join al- Qaeda) and who was living in the New York metropolitan area, is later convicted for his involvement in the attacks. Reports surface that he and his organization received financial assistance from Iran.
1993
According to Ali Mohamed, Imad Mugniyah and Osama bin Laden meet in Sudan. Bin Laden expresses his desire to model al- Qaeda after Hezbollah. In particular, bin Laden expresses interest in Mugniyah’s bombing of the U.S. Embassy in Beirut in 1983 77 iran’s proxy war against america and similar attacks. They agree to work together against America and the West.
1993
According to Jamal al-Fadl, an al-Qaeda operative in U.S. custody, bin Laden meets a leading Iranian sheikh in Sudan. The purpose of the meeting is to put aside any differences between their competing brands of Islam in order to come together against their common enemy: the West. The meeting is just the first of several between bin Laden and Iran’s spiritual leaders.
1993
Hezbollah and the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps train al- Qaeda’s terrorists in camps in Sudan, Lebanon and Iran. Among the terrorists trained are some of bin Laden’s most trusted lieutenants and al-Qaeda’s future leaders.
1993
Egypt and Algeria cut off diplomatic ties with Iran. Both nations accuse Iran and Sudan of supporting Sunni terrorism, including terrorist groups affiliated with al-Qaeda. Egypt will blame Iran for supporting both the Egyptian Islamic Jihad and the Islamic Group throughout the 1990’s.
November 13, 1995
Two bombs are detonated, nearly simultaneously, at the Saudi National Guard training facility in Riyadh, killing five Americans. The suspects are captured and confess to being inspired by Osama bin Laden. Bin Laden denies responsibility, but praises the attack. It is likely al-Qaeda’s first terrorist attack inside the Saudi Kingdom. 78 national security studies
November 19, 1995
An al-Qaeda suicide bomber destroys the Egyptian Embassy in Islamabad, Pakistan. The CIA’s Bob Baer later learns that Mugniyah’s deputy assisted al-Qaeda in the attack and that one of bin Laden’s top terrorists remained in contact with Mugniyah’s offi ce months afterwards.
May 1996
Bin Laden is expelled from Sudan, but the 9/11 Commission reports that “intelligence indicates the persistance of contacts” between al-Qaeda and Iran even after al-Qaeda’s relocation to Afghanistan. Bin Laden and al-Qaeda maintain an ongoing presence in Sudan, despite not being “formally” welcome.
June 21 – 23, 1996
Tehran hosts a summit for the leading Sunni and Shiite terrorist groups. It is announced that the terrorists will continue to focus on U.S. interests thoughout the region. Mugniyah, bin Laden, and a leading member of the EIJ reportedly forge the “Committee of Three,” under the leadership of Iran’s intelligence chief, to focus their joint efforts against American targets.
June 25, 1996
Hezbollah terrorists, operating under the direction of senior Iranian officials, bomb the Khobar Towers apartment complex in Saudi Arabia. Contemporaneous reports by both the State Department and the CIA note that al-Qaeda is also suspected of playing a role. The 9/11 Commission would later find “indirect evidence” of al-Qaeda’s involvement. The evidence includes intelligence indicating that al-Qaeda was planning a similar operation in the months prior and that bin Laden was congratulated by other al-Qaeda operatives, including Ayman al-Zawahiri, shortly after the attack. 79 iran’s proxy war against america
July 1996
According to Bob Baer, the Egyptian Islamic Group—an ally of bin Laden’s al-Qaeda—is in contact with Mugniyah.
1996
According to Bob Baer, there is “incontrovertible evidence” of a meeting between bin Laden and a representative of the Iranian Ministry of Intelligence and Security (MOIS).
August 7, 1998
Al-Qaeda’s suicide bombers simultaneously destroy the U.S. Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. It is al-Qaeda’s most spectacular attack prior to 9/11. The attack is clearly modeled on Hezbollah’s attacks in the early 1980s. Indeed, the al-Qaeda terrorists responsible were trained by Hezbollah in the early 1990s. There is evidence that Iran also provided explosives used in the attack.
October – November 2000
Imad Mugniyah and his lieutenants personally escort several of the 9/11 muscle hijackers out of Saudi Arabia on flights to Beirut and Iran. In all, eight to ten of the hijackers travel through Iran on the way to 9/11.
December 2000
Ramzi Binalshibh, al-Qaeda’s key point man for the 9/11 plot, applies for visa at the Iranian Embassy in Berlin. His visa application is approved.
January 31, 2001
Ramzi Binalshibh arrives at Tehran International airport. He does not return to Germany until February 28, 2001. The purpose of his trip to Iran remains a mystery. The 9/11 Commission does not mention Binalshibh’s trip to Iran. 80 national security studies
Early September 2001
Binalshibh flees to Iran shortly before the 9/11 attacks.
September 11, 2001
Nineteen al-Qaeda hijackers execute al-Qaeda’s largest operation to date, killing nearly 3000 Americans. Many of the details surrounding the plot, including who financed the attack, remain a mystery.
October 2001
According to a high-level Taliban detainee at Gitmo, Iran offers the Taliban Government assistance in retreating from Afghanistan.
October 2001
Numerous press reports indicate that Iran aids the retreat of hundreds of al-Qaeda and Taliban members from Afghanistan. Some al-Qaeda operatives enjoy safehaven in Iran to this day. Among them is Said al-Adel, who is reportedly the third highest ranking member of al-Qaeda and was trained by Hezbollah during the early 1990s, and Saad bin Laden, Osama’s heir apparent.
April 11, 2002
Al-Qaeda carries out the first attack ordered by bin Laden since 9/11: a suicide bomber destroys a synagogue in Tunisia, killing nineteen people. According to NBC News, Saad bin Laden contacted the cell responsible for the attack from his safehaven in Iran. Suleiman Abu Ghaith, bin Laden’s spokesman, also claims al-Qaeda’s responsibility for the attack from his abode in Iran.
End of 2002 – Spring 2003
According to former Director of Central Intelligence George Tenet, senior al-Qaeda leaders discuss the acquisition of nuclear weapons from their safe haven in Iran. In fact, al-Qaeda’s “nuclear 81 iran’s proxy war against america chief,” Abdel al-Aziz al-Masri, is one of many senior terrorists living in Iran.
May 12, 2003
Under orders from Saif al-Adel and Saad bin Laden, who are operating from Iran, al-Qaeda’s terrorists simultaneously strike three separate housing complexes in Riyadh Saudi Arabia. Another al- Qaeda agent thought to be responsible for the attack flees to Iran before he can be captured.
May 16, 2003
One dozen al-Qaeda bombers attack several targets in Casablanca, Morocco. Saad bin Laden, living in Iran, is reportedly in contact with the cell shortly before the attack.
2004 – present
Iran supplies advanced IED technology to the insurgents in Iraq. There is growing evidence of Iranian support for both Sunni and Shiite insurgency groups in Iraq. Iran continues to harbor senior al-Qaeda leaders as the terrorist network reorganizes.
January 20, 2007
IRGC and Hezbollah terrorists kill five American soldiers in Karbala, Iraq
January 2007 – present
Numerous IRGC and Hezbollah terrorists, who are responsible for arming and training terrorist groups in Iraq, are captured by American and Iraqi forces. 82 national security studies.
http://demediacraticnation….
Just curious how would you describe this?
Why does the US have to accept it?
That’s the second time you’ve posted long content, almost certainly written by someone else, in this thread.
Spammers/flooders of real content (as opposed to commercial content) get warnings before they get bans. This is your warning.
you just don;t anyone telling the truth about Iran , You object to the content, Your kind only believes in free speech for themselves and no one else.
If I wanted to stop you from posting about Iran, I could do so with a couple of clicks of my mouse.
The content is not at issue except to the extent that you’re repeatedly posting the same LONG content to the SAME thread (content almost certainly not written by your semi-literate self). That’s called flooding.
You can stop doing that, or you can be gone.
You don’t have to like it. That’s how it is whether you like it or not.
JUST FOR THE RECORD
Why don’t you call me something, Boy?
you are a North Korea apologist . How about that?
Weak. How bout I give you a noogie and and an atomic wedgie.
Talk about weak responses.
Why don’t you take a trip to NK and see what really goes on there?
And then what? I’ll come home wanting to bomb North Korea because it’s an oppressive shithole? Saudi Arabia is an oppressive shithole too but they’re our allies. Should we bomb all countries that are oppressive shitholes? We’re talking about war here junior. Are you 12?
North Korea ought to give up their war . That is the problem.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-korea-ship/north-korea-torpedoed-souths-navy-ship-report-idUSTRE63L08W20100422
October – The Bush Administration reveals that North Korea has admitted operating a secret nuclear weapons program in violation of the 1994 agreement.
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/10/29/world/asia/north-korea-nuclear-timeline—fast-facts/index.html
The Bush administration? You mean the one that lied us into war with Iraq? Sure, I’ll take George’s word. The same George who had just named NK as part of his axis of evil.
yes you trust North Korea who kills anyone who runs away
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/08/09/history-lesson-why-did-bill-clintons-north-korea-deal-fail/?utm_term=.80556780effa
Then intelligence agencies determined that North Korea was cheating on the agreement by trying to develop nuclear material through another method — highly enriched uranium. The Bush administration sent an envoy who confronted North Korea — and the regime was said to have belligerently confirmed it in 2002, just as the Bush administration was mostly focused on the pending invasion of Iraq.
So you believe cnn and the Shrub?
over Kin Jong Un and Saddam ? Yes
But the Shrub lied about Saddam. Let me guess, you still believe the Shrub.
over North Korea yes. Let me guess you love the great leader.
My comment was about Saddam. The shrub lied and we went to war. And Kim wasn’t around when the shrub was pres so it’s hard to judge who was the bigger liar between those two.
I will go with Bush of Kim Il Sung and the rest. Go move to North Korea if you trust them so much
over Anti war and North Korea ? Of course
Anti war is a site funded by the the KKK and Soviet Intel
Yes, because we stiffed them. The US, under Clinton, made a deal. Perhaps only halfàssed because the regime was expected to fall but a deal. But it required money and Slick Willy didn’t have the political capital to take on the war pigs in Congress. (That may not be the exact phrasing of the Independent article.)
So Shrub saying that the mean North Koreans were in violation of an agreement that we had stomped on, ripped up, set on fire and pissed on is ludicrous. Of course they violated it. Because the US invasion of Iraq (going really well, isn’t it?) was like a great neon sign flashing on and off in the sky..
This Is Why You Need Nukes
North Korea builds nuclear weapons cause they want to conquer South Korea . and they violated the agreement so they us stopped giving them free money and oil
Er, reneging. Let’s be careful with the language, Sir.
I know. I’m an effing racist. 🙂
I’d be hard to convince that’s true. I was sure that it was a simple spelling error. But if you want to be a racist, I shan’t be niggardly. 😉
the board is full of them.
“When Kim Jong Un threatens to Nuke America I take him at his word ”
Good. Because his word is that he’ll only use nukes if attacked.
Good luck tilting at that windmill, Señor. What’s wrong with me? Why can others argue with idiots but I lost the desire. Would it have helped if I had been mean to Sibel Edmonds? I’m asking for a friend.
It’s a joke. It’s a joke. Somehow that just tickled me. The great and wise Oz, Thomas L. Knapp, could keep him from Sibel’s website. Please be gentle with me, Oh Wise One. 😎
Why would I want to keep anyone from Ms. Edmonds’s web site?
I give up. Why would you? I sure as hell couldn’t think of a reason. Remember all those times you kept me from reading Ms Edmonds? Me neither.
I was just ribbing you. You got a little testy about the Edmonds thing and I noticed. I read a lot of your comments and it’s rare to see the hair on the back of your neck go up. So sue me.
In self honesty, I’m likely jealous. I only get accused of being a writer.
Hmm. I didn’t feel particularly testy. It’s just that every couple of months, that guy recycles the same lie. Hint: If you’re going to lie about someone, at least bother to come up with new lies, the more outrageous the better. “He messed with a writer I like!” is lame the first time even if true and annoying the 10th time, especially when false.
i don’t take him at his word , NK also calls for reunification of Korea but only on their terms.
If they stopped threatening South Korea then there would be zero problem.
Yeah, we have to protect american citizens and the survival of humanity at all costs. Fortunately it will only cost us our arrogance to save us. Ditch that and suddenly we have a chance. A white-knuckle grip on perfect safety and control is the surest way to lose everything. When it comes to nuclear war, all enemies are irrelevant compared to the threat these weapons inherently pose to us all.
Cowboy with as many ideas as a kid. How do nukes “protect” you????
I don’t know why America won’t give up its nukes and is modernizing it’s nuclear stockpile we only have a human god in North Korea threatening to Nuke our country and our allies, a Russian military that has been in the process of upgrading it’s nuclear arsenal and has put ICBM missile systems in the Kallingrad,and China,France, Britain, Pakistan, India, all nuclear powers. I guess when everyone is willing to give up their own nuclear arsenal we can have an honest debate and deal with the de-nuclearzation issue until then we’ll all keep them ready for the day we have to use them.
Did you even read the article? This is about idiots thinking if they downsize nukes they can use them where the big nukes can’t be used. Just localize the devastating effects of a nuclear weapon and everything will be fine. Maybe we can get them downsized enough that we can’t use them for carpet bombing. Sounds like the goal is to be able to turn localized areas into smoldering dust without worrying about the fallout affecting us.
This is old news America has been developing these mini Nukes for awhile even under Obama. Maybe now there just getting ready for the process of launching them.
Exactly. Many people in the defense and foreignpolicy circles have been itching to break the nuclear taboo and graduate the public to the idea of acceptable use of nuclear weaopns. Wouldn’t be surprised at all to hear them try to spin that these Nukes could even be more “humane” than conventional weapons
You have not bothered to check the history. Russia is REACTING, China is REACTING, just as in the past it is an arms race which helps nobody but the dealers/traders. It has actually happened that the numbers of nukes has been reduced, but GWBush made a few decisions to renew the Cold War. It is no secret-try some research.
Give up the big ones, the little ones , the useless F-35s and much of the rest of the “defense” buildup which is for OFFENSE only. Join the 120 countries including North Korea which in the UN have pledged to rid the globe of nukes. Think about the future, so we can have one. What about “give peace a chance”?
If China and Russia aren’t part of those countries I wouldn’t pledge anything and when it comes to America my country we only have one flag we pledge to maybe if you’re so concerned about the rest of the world you should go after some of those other countries you defend everyday that are developing and threatening to use on my country. In your world America is evil and can’t be trusted but, in the real world everyone and I mean everyone is just looking out for there own interests. I know it’s hard for you to see that’s why you believe the Supreme leaders and the Dear leaders of the world.
why won’t North Korea give up its war against South Korea ?
1. What war?
2. What business is it of you or the USA?
they blow up South Korea jets liners
They blow up South Korea boats
They bomb Korean towns even to this day
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Flight_858
Why ought the US do what North Korea demands? Next up they will demand the US not trade or sell weapons to South Korea or suppot South Korea.
Why ought the US give into their demands?
What demands? “If you attack us we will use nuclear weapons on you, if you don’t we won’t” is not a “demand.”
there demand is don’t protect south Korea so they can attack them again.
probably will demand that they US not sell weapons to South Korea so South Korea can’t defend themselves.
and not to support South Korea at the UN.
The US has forces in SK to defend it from NK .
The soliders don’t provide any sort of real benefit to the US in any other way.
So again NK wants the US to remove forces from South Korea and not defend SK
NK invaded SK 60 years ago and they have never given up seeking to conquer SK.
Why doesn’t NK stop threatening SK ? All they need to do is that
Insane decisions by insane folks is insane and should be discouraged…
anti war is funded by Nazis Communists, drug cartels and Hezzbollah. It is a pro terrorist web site supported by those who wish to violently overthrow the US government
You’re an idiot.
can read the comments on this site to know who is behind it.
Yes, because super-secret secret Russian Nazi Communist Muslim hommaseksual infield-fly-rule-supporting conspirators are the main commenters on the super-secret front web sites they set up.
Seriously, does your mom know you’re talking to strangers on the Internet?
that is right anti war is funded by neo nazis , neo stalinists Soviet intelligence , Hezzbollah and the drug cartels and is dedicated to the violent overthrow of the US government
In your imagination. In the real world, none of the above. You should really get after your drug dealer to get you better stuff.
Sounds like maybe the stuff too good.
you ought to find some good stuff and overdose on it
the comments and articles tell about this site and who supports them
Yes, they do. Maybe you should give them a read.
That is right anti war is a coalition of neo nazis and Soviet Intelligence.
and so when those like you get upset well that is a good thing.
Infield fly rule. Dang. I should have thought of that. I’m stealing that one. I would have flagged you for talking about his momma but you’re the moderator. 😉
Are you sure that’s the correct spelling of hommaseksual? I’m asking for a friend. hommina hommina hommina
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6IH7-qcp8nA
+5 for pithy
I was afraid of that. Damn Nazi Communist Drug Lord Muslim Soros troll mother fúckers. You can’t turn your back on em.
Let me put it another way. You’re way out of your weight class here, you little shít.
Why the devil would I want to be in your weight class. The last thing I would want to be associated with you or your ilk . The world would be a better place if you iced yourself.
Why the devil would I want to be in your weight class. The last thing I would want to be associated with you or your ilk . The world would be a better place if you offed yourself