President-elect Donald Trump’s doubts about Russia hacking became even more vocal today after WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange’s hour-long Fox News interview, noting that officials have delayed his “intelligence briefing” on the allegation until Friday, which he believes is a sign they’re trying to dig up more evidence.
Trump cited Assange’s comments that “a 14-year-old could have hacked Podesta,” and Assange’s assurance that Russia was not his source, adding that he believed the DNC was “careless” in the lead up to the hacks.
A number of Senate hawks issued statements condemning Assange and warning against believing anything he says, despite a long history of WikiLeaks being accurate, with Sen. Tom Cotton saying it was a matter of “faith,” and that he has more faith in US spies than Assange.
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R – SC) warned Americans shouldn’t be “duped” by anything Assange says, insisting he is “no friend to America or democracy,” and has a record of “undermining the United States” with his leaks. This was a rare point of concurrence between Senate hawks and the outgoing White House, who accused Trump of “siding with Russia” over the US intelligence community by not accepting their accusations.
Assange noted in the interview that during WikiLeaks’ history there has never been a sustained accusation that anything they leaked was not accurate, noting that there is similarly no real claim that the leaked emails were not “factual information.”
Assange maintains that his source was not any state actor, though WikiLeaks does not disclose its actual sources. Assange added that even disclosing that the source was not Russia, nor any other state, was more information than the group prefers to offer on sources, but that they felt obliged to do so in an attempt to try to keep the focus on the leaks themselves, and not on distractions about Russia.
Cotton and Lindsey boy suddenly worried about who’s a friend to America…that’s rich. They may want to take a closer look at their israeli masters first.
Assange has never lied to me, but the CIA and US government have. Who should I trust? Such a difficult decision!
On the other hand Lindsey Graham is more like a compass that points to the south than a broken clock. A broken clock is right twice a day but if you always take the opposite of Graham’s claims you get a much higher score.
Agree. Why any sane person would give Graham, McCain, and fellow traitors the time of day is beyond me.
Putin is an autocrat but he is both intelligent and, as far a we can tell, a loyal Russian. This can’t be said for Lindsey, McCain and there fellow travellers.
So true marc! And now all you need to do is break into 330 million propagandized skulls and convince them. Maybe less about 10% in fairness.
luv from Canada.
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2017/01/01/Trump-says-hell-reveal-hacking-revelation-on-Tuesday-or-Wednesday/4561483286731/
So, the big revelation trump claimed he’d make -the one touted by this website- was a no-show. What a shock.
What revelation was that? Terry.
I suggest you click the link I presented.
It appears you’re attempting to dis Trump as a “no show” re his “big revelation”, when it was the CIA et al who were the “no shows”. Talk about your TDS!
That’s cute, but Trump specifically stated HE had information other people DIDN’T have, and he would present it this week, tuesday or wed. He was lying- note he hasn’t ‘rescheduled’ it or explained about it.
Anyone can click the link I presented where trump is quoted, or better yet- find the video of him saying it
btw just labeling something TDS isn’t a substantial refutation. It’s a meaningless appeal to emotions.
You got it Terry! This is your day to have a laugh at the expense of all the others who bought into Trump.
Then tomorrow all Americans can cum together again and unite under Trump’s new and solid prowar reality.
luv from Canada.
“US intelligence” is an oxymoron. Believe Assange if you want the facts.
Yeah, well Julian keeps telling us how nobody has ever been hurt by any of his disclosures. I find that a tall tale worthy of some journalistic excellence. Out of the tens of thousands of names unredacted in the Embassy cables, he has no idea of what harm came to those people exposed by his and The Guardian’s shameful debacle.
“Ignorance is strength!”
If you have any evidence that someone was harmed, then present it. But you don’t have any. Your accusation is entirely unsubstantiated, drawn entirely from your “patriotic” Kool-Aid-inspired animus toward Assange.
That said, if some treasonous weasel sided with the US invaders — betraying his own countrymen/women — for thirty pieces of silver or a ticket to “the land of opportunity”, what fate would you say they deserve? If some foreign country — say, Russia — successfully invaded and subdued the United States, how would you feel toward any Americans who assisted them in conquering and killing your fellow citizens and heroic servicemen and women?
My opinion is derived from a few nights of studying the Embassy cables themselves. I was appalled and couldn’t believe the irresponsible disclosure of thousands of obviously innocent people. I would suggest you take some time to read it yourself.
Government documents are public property. If you want your communications to be private, don’t do them on the taxpayer dime.
Yeah, dream on. Try exposing some, see if you don’t land in jail or in a lawsuit. Come back to reality, dude.
Assange is not only very credible compared to the U.S. intelligence community, he’s credible period.
Please imagine for a moment what that principled man has been subjected to because of his principled activities.
It take very strong moral underpinnings, courage and tenacity to do what Wikileaks does and to pay the high price of illegal detention for it.
I simply admire him.
LF
In 2010, Assange stated he had extensive information on corruption high-up in the Russian Government that he was ready to release.
He did NOT release that information. Why?
It’s quite curious. I know many people want an echo chamber here for *whatever* reasons, but does no one even want to even consider the possibilities here?
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2010/1026/WikiLeaks-ready-to-drop-a-bombshell-on-Russia.-But-will-Russians-get-to-read-about-it
Link fixed
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2010/1026/WikiLeaks-ready-to-drop-a-bombshell-on-Russia.-But-will-Russians-get-to-read-about-it
Sorry, the link will not display properly.
The article is from 2010, I will quote
Moscow — The Kremlin had better brace itself for a coming wave of WikiLeaks disclosures about Russia, the website’s founder, Julian Assange, told a leading Moscow newspaper Tuesday.
“We have [compromising materials] about Russia, about your government and businessmen,” Mr. Assange told the pro-government daily Izvestia. “But not as much as we’d like… We will publish these materials soon.”
Note, he NEVER released the material!
I wasn’t aware of this and will certainly look into it.
Thank you.
LF
“Note, he NEVER released the material!”
Bzzt. Within a month of that statement, Wikileaks released an archive of leaked material on Russia, which was disseminated through two outlets: Russian newspaper Novaya Gazeta, and a group calling itself Ruleaks which was formed specifically to translate and broadband it. The bit that caused the most scandal was an expose, with photos, of one of Putin’s very posh and expensive private palaces. There was also some material on internal corruption in Gazprom and other state-owned enterprises.
On the plus side, one of the good things that have come out of this is that some Americans are recognizing the good things Assange has done. That has come about because of their love affair with Trump.
But all that is over now because Trump has folded his hand on peaceful relations with Russia. Now there won’t be much reason for any Americans to be talking about Assange. He’ll be put back on the list of traitors along with Snowden.
luv from Canada.
OK, luv from Canada.
Please explain how “Trump has folded his hand on peaceful relations with Russia” if you meant that he’s reversed course regarding getting along with Russia.
I’ve not heard that news.
LF
Pay closer attention.
luv from Canada.
I guess I never really knew the meaning of the term Internet Troll until I look back over your several recent posts, Don. You’ve brought clarity for me. THX.
LF
It is a measure of the depth of intellectual degradation of our politics that key figures of our Senate urge us to ignore facts and accept their word on faith. When will these political prostitutes finally be laughed out of office?
2018.
Thing is Tony, everybody who had faith in Trump are the prostitutes and it’s them that are now going to be laughed at.
That’s sad but not a real downer because who really thought the US was going to be embarrassed out of their warmongering stand by a naive psychopath who never did have a clue about foreign relations and the US’s need to keep their wars of aggression going.
So maybe finally we can get back on track here on antiwar.com and start talking about how the US under Trump are going to destroy Russia’s peace in Syria and how the Iran deal will be torn up by the US so war can proceed with Iran. Maybe Raimondo’s next piece he writes?
I think its really difficult to figure out what’s going on at the present moment given that there seems to be a complex struggle ongoing within our deep state. Moreover, Pence appears to be taking a similar guardian relationship to Trump as that of GHW Bush to Reagan and Chaney to Bush II.
No Tony, it’s not hard to figure it out at all. Trump has folded his hand on friendly relations with Russia. It was never meant to be serious, it was meant as a campaign ploy. What has now happened is that embarrassment was going to be caused to both Trump and US intelligence services and a backroom deal was made to avoid it. It’s all over Tony. All the buildup throughout the election and all the hope people had in Trump on foreign relations has been flushed down the toilet.
Americans will reunite on foreign policy and will be damn glad about it. Russia will once again be known as the enemy and it’s not going to take very long for Trump to tell them so.
luv from Canada.
I suppose that in a few weeks we’ll see if your crystal ball is in focus. Cheers!
Yes you will Tony and you can bet on it. Think of the other alternative. A complete breakdown of the prowar status quo. Trump’s caved for sure because if he was to gain momentum and start to be believed by the majority of the people, that would threaten the entire US intelligence community.
I’m going to post something you will be interested in Tony, but I’ll do it at the top of the board. Check it out.
Don.
Don,
Your posts seem overly strident.
Just sayin’
LF
I hope you like them. It adds something to this site I think, even though I’m being watched very closely. I’m not allowed to post on Raimondo’s stuff or the other writer’s stuff. I’m still banned from doing that.
Just in case anybody is still holding out hope with Trump, you should know that the backroom deal has now been made to quiet it all down. The situation became grave with the CIA vs. Trump and so some kind of deal was needed urgently.
Here’s about how it went: The CIA is going to somehow give Trump the facesaver his vanity needs which is a suggestion that he won without the help of the Russians. In return Trump is going to tone down all his useless babbling on friendly relations with Russia.
The clues that everyone should have seen was that a pending embarrassment of either Trump or the CIA was getting too likely. The media (MSNBC, Maddow, and others) were starting to get too persistent in their exposure of Trump and at the same time, Hannity’s interview with Assange was working too well in bringing a lot of people over to believing it.
The US machine quickly jumped to the challenge and the evil deed was done with Trump. We’ll never know what was said but we’ll know the gist of it by the results.
Anybody want to debate it any further now? Heheh.
luv from Canada.
Don, you seem remarkably informed.
LF
Thank you! I pay attention. But don’t get wrapped up in some other alternative theories because they just aren’t true. You see, I already know what you’re trying to suggest.
luv from Canada.
Jan 2, 2017 BOOM! CNN Caught Using Video Game Image In Fake Russian Hacking Story
It looks like CNN Has tried to pull the wool over our eyes once again. This time, they used a screenshot from the Fallout 4 Video game to paint the picture of Russian Hacking. To bad that’s not what a real hacking screen looks like. And an image you will only find in the video game!
https://youtu.be/GVEWQYbnzSs
Good info! One of many that we’ll find as time goes on. So even though this scam of Trump’s is dead, it’s going to be interesting to ferret out all the deceptions by the media. And especially interesting to watch in the next few days as they all pull in their horns and help to diffuse the problem that was arising between Trump and the CIA/US foreign policy plans. Hahahaha!
Madison said it best, “Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives.” James Madison
Assange is like the truth. Everybody loves him until he makes them look bad. Trump loves the the truth right now because, as far as Russian hacking is concerned, the truth is on his side. Just wait until Assange leaks something about Trumps whorehouse receipts or the illegal varmint skinning ring that keeps him in hair-pieces. We’ll see how much the Donald loves the truth then.
They hated Assange, then the Trump supporting bozos started to love him. Then they are going to hate him again soon because even Trump is going to say he doesn’t agree with Assange.
And in fact, if you’ve been paying attention, Trump has already said that! Isn’t this fun comrade!
luv from Canada.
Pay attention folks and try to understand this:
Chris Matthews did an interview with Rand Paul and Rand lost his balls. Matthews suggested that it was entirely Dick Cheney that told the lies on the Iraq war justification. That was so he could pretend and protect the intelligence establishment. The suggestion was, the CIA, and all the other intelligence community had nothing to do with it. So we know that Cheney had a part in it but we also know fully well that it wasn’t just Cheney.
So the reason for this lie by Matthews was because Rand Paul was questioning Clapper and how he was caught in lies and that was suggestive of the CIA doing the same on this current fiasco where they are obviously lying about Wikileaks and Assange being truthful.
You see folks, Rand Paul had the chance to say that it was another instance of the CIA/intelligence lying as in the past as has been proven. And then Rand Paul lost his balls and didn’t say it. In essence, he agreed with Matthews that it was all Cheney.
Fine points to pay attention to folks. Hopefully a few of you will understand what’s going on with even the best of those who represent hope. Rand Paul doesn’t have any balls and so who else will?
luv from Canada.