While the Clinton campaign continues to claim “everyone knows” Russia’s government is behind hacking attacks on her campaign, and that it is doing so on Donald Trump’s behalf, many media outlets have reported this evidence-free allegation as unvarnished fact.
The appeal to general consensus is working, as while both Trump and the Russian government have denied that anything of the sort is going on, the charges keep coming. Indeed, denying something there’s not really any evidence for is so controversial that many Republicans have called on Trump to stop denying it, and his running mate, Gov. Mike Pence, today said he also believes Russia is responsible.
Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D – CA), the vice chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee, is now also making such statements, and claims her conclusion is “based on media reports I have seen.”
Where the allegations meet the law is unclear, but the Democratic Coalition Against Trump (DCAT) is demanding that the FBI investigate the Trump campaign over the hacking echoing comments from some high-ranking House Dems on Friday, who similarly demanded the FBI do something about the “ongoing criminal activity.”
In practice, what evidence has been made public provides little ties between the hacker Guccifer 2.0 and any sites inside Russia, which is itself a far distance from proving a link with the Russian government, which is an even farther distance from proving Trump to be in on a conspiracy.
That means legal proceedings almost certainly won’t be happening, though with Clinton making the allegations a substantial part of her campaign, keeping the story in the headlines is likely more important than substantiating it.
I think you are right to be skeptical about the “proof” that we are being fed by our Government and its intelligence agencies. However, aside from the Clinton campaign’s obvious political motivation for peddling this “evil Putin is behind the hacking” story, a legitimate question is why Wikileaks has chosen to release this entirely one-sided hacked material (all is from the Clinton campaign, none is from the Trump campaign) shortly before our presidential election? It is scarcely credible that Wikileaks’ source could not have hacked both campaigns, since nothing we know about the Trump campaign suggests that its bumbling buffoons are more expert at avoiding hackers than the Clinton campaign. So if Russia really isn’t responsible for this one-sided intervention by unknown hackers into the current pre-election process, who is? On the face of it, Wikileaks certainly appears to bear much responsibility for choosing whether and when to release the hacked material. Why did Wikileaks make this decision?
“It is scarcely credible that Wikileaks’ source could not have hacked both campaigns, since nothing we know about the Trump campaign suggests that its bumbling buffoons are more expert at avoiding hackers than the Clinton campaign.”
Interesting point. Counterpoint:
Trump himself brags that he doesn’t use email. It’s possible that his campaign staff doesn’t trust the technology, or use it nearly as much for internal communications, as the Clinton campaign. Maybe they communicate via voice and text message and commit details to paper or to non-Internet-facing computer systems.
Alternatively, perhaps they use Internet-facing computers for all kinds of stuff, but have such a disorganized system that, perversely, a hacker has a harder time figuring out what systems to penetrate or where in them to look for juicy information.
Finally, part of the whole hack/leak bit has to do with the DNC, which was in the tank for Clinton years ahead of the primaries and is effectively part of her campaign organization. The RNC was never in the tank for Trump, was horrified once it realized he would be the nominee, and still doesn’t appear to be working closely with him. All of those things make the RNC a less likely hacking vector if the target is the Trump campaign.
Hacks? What hacks? Show me some proof.
I hate to be “that guy” but the vast majority of information security breaches are inside jobs. Has everybody forgotten Seth?
Hello?…
From what I can tell, it seems unlikely that Seth was the source.
That said, you’re absolutely correct. The evidence for “hacks” is that we’re being told that there were hacks by people whose best chance at political damage control is asserting that there were hacks, and whose best chance at political manipulation of the damaging situation is asserting a particular actor as responsible for said hacks. And we happen to know that those same people lie like a rug every time they open their mouths.
More poppycock from the divide and conquerors zion.
This whole election is about regaining our sovereignty from the ziomonsters.
Why would Russia potentially make itself a target of American wrath in trying to interfere in our election,in a time of Russophobic zionist inspired hysteria?
Does not compute one iota,other than with Russophobic trotskyite scum,the authors of America destruction.
Trump for POTUS.
Trotskyite is right. This is how they toppled Tsarist rule, and all the institutions of state. Trotsky had run committees of parallel government, never mind that nobody appointed him. Creating just enough chaos to get those that were already on the inside the structures to shake it, and then finish off. His association with another master manipulator that managed another regime change in Turkey, and establishing another one of their kind, Ataturk — was just a par for the course. What one sees today is an eerie flash from the past. The same vitriol, the same vicious overreach, burning all the bridges — to get the desired result.
The problem with Trump campaign is that it showed the fact that politics was not their strength. So, instead of focusing on getting the message across — using the precious little time that he had at his disposal — he focused on the “debate” instead of making a case — and he has a good one. On economy, on security, etc. He could not even touch her in her most vulnerable — the people are afraid of her. She has zero sense of appropriate or ethical, and would not give it a thought to bring us into harm’s way.
We are really experiencing what Russian’s did when their way of life was just dashed away, in the name of the better future, and then went on to “reeducate” people that their traditions, religion, family values were all backwards and needed to change. We are ourselves at the verge of cultural bashing — the deplorables that need to be reeducated into a modern, global persona. Our role is to wave flag for whatever wars she will declare, and send our children into harms way, while ruining the economy. That has been already the case for the last 8 years, and before — but who knows, perhaps, we do have to learn some lessons over, and over again.
These jokers, who can never seem to figure out who is masquerading as the IRS, or the FBI itself in an extortion racket against American citizens, has the gall to pretend to tell us who is doing what hacking.