While her speech today at the American Jewish Committee Global Forum included some vague criticism of ongoing Israeli settlement expansion, as usual that will have no impact on US policy, as National Security Adviser Susan Rice centered the speech on pledges of a record military aid package being agreed to soon.
The aid package, which Rice reiterated would be the “single largest military assistance package – with any country – in American history,” is expected to be between $37.5 and $40 billion over the next decade, which Rice said proved increasing aid to Israel isn’t a partisan issue in the US, but “an enduring American interest.”
The US had initially offered a $40 billion deal which required the Israeli government to promise not to lobby the US Congress for more money during the 10-year plan, but this was rejected by Netanyahu. Other offers, in the realm of $35 billion but without the restrictions, have similarly been spurned.
Getting Israel to agree to accept the record package remains the focus on Obama’s side, while many are warning Netanyahu that waiting Obama out and trying to get more from his successor risks alienating many Democrats, particularly in Netanyahu’s deal comes from a Republican president.
Initial reports suggested Netanyahu was looking for a deal in the realm of $45 billion, though much of the discussion is based around the assumption of always demanding at least a bit more than was offered, no matter how gaudy the package already is.
We have the most corrupt political elite ever. They are truly scum of the earth.
Pretending to be rich.
Rejoice all ye who art believers in the correctful, One and Only Supreme Being, for He shalt surely be most pleased with the vast unaffordable generosities showered down upon His Great Beloved Chosen People by the great and wise, legally bribed, politicians of Amurka. And so, too, shalt The Presidentress/ Empress HillBillery for she shalt surely bless them with vast squadrons of free F-35s. I fear, however, that the poor, voiceless taxpayers of Amurka might be less than overly overjoyed, nor might the wrongful, One and Only Supreme Being of the Muslims be overtly ecstatic, neither?
And so, in those times when we cain’t please everyone, then I always says, “Please the ones who art The Chosen, all the time, every time, without fail,
unto the coming of the Second Coming,”
so help me, god.
The Liberty was a spy ship helping Egypt. Vote for Trump to keep illegals and Islamics like you out.
Hasbara Troll Alert: jgarbuz is spinning Israeli propaganda while denying Israel’s parasitic relationship with the American taxpayer. Shame on all blood-sucking Zionists like jgarbuz.
Begrudge not The Chosen,
their vast good fortune,
for they ain’t called The Chosen,
for nuttin…
Since 1988 Israel has slashed the percentage of it’s GDP devoted to defense by over two thirds: chrome-extension://gbkeegbaiigmenfmjfclcdgdpimamgkj/views/app.html
Last year Israel cut the length of mandatory military service: http://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-to-cut-male-soldiers-service-time/
It is clear that if Israel is unwilling to provide for it’s defense it is the duty of the United States to step up and do the job Israelis are unwilling to do.
The average Israeli taxpayer pays more for defense than US taxpayers:
Rank Country Amount in USD$
1 Saudi Arabia $6,909
2 Singapore $2,385
3 Israel $1,882
4 United States $1,859
11 more rows
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditure_per_capita
Are you kidding?
I hope this comment is tongue and cheek. If not, we’ve already spent a trillion and a half American dollars in Afghanistan and Iraq defending Israel’s interests, giving Israel a free ride on America’s foreign aid welfare checks, free military support, nearly 7,000 American dead and over 50,000 Americans maimed.
What does a Middle East state the size and population of New Jersey need five nuclear capable submarines for and just what has Israel done for the American taxpayer that deserves unconditional financial and military support? Not a damned thing.
Do you remember the USS Liberty?
Disgraceful.
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I’m proud of my country for helping countries like Israel that are the victims of aggression.
Unfortunately for you the other countries like Israel have a pattern of having disappeared in the dustbin of history.
Israel has come back from the dustbin of history. How many countries can say that? I think many Arab states are going into the dustbin.
Too bad. Anything for Israel. They truly own the USA.
You know that’s false.
I believe its true
I know it’s false.
You don’t know jack.
Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy written by John J. Mersheimer and Stephen M. Walt.
Who cares what those two antisemites say? The Israeli lobby came about as a result of the Saudi oil lobby getting the US to sell so much arms to the Arab enemies of Israel. The oil lobby came long before the Israeli lobby.
Israel owns the Congress. The neocons, AIPAC and the ADL see to that.
Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy written by John J. Mersheimer and Stephen M. Walt.
Israel has no oil. Where does it get the money to bribe all those Congressmen?
From whom will the USA borrow these 50 billion dollars to make this 10-year contribution to the continued disruption of the Middle East? Which other country can dictate the terms of US benevolence?
Iran. It threatens to make bombs, so it gets $100 billon dollars back. or the equivalent of 30 years of military aid to Israel. And its ally and BFF NOrht Korea is making the bombs for them anyway.
American taxpayers foot the bill for Israel.
They foot the bill for Boeing, Lockheed-Martin, Raytheon and their workers building military equipment for Israel. 20,000 US jobs depend on that subsidy.
We gave F-15’s to Israel & Israel improved them, 700 modifications.
Thanks to Israel, we now have better warplanes.
The best selling plane ever in US history since WWII is the F-16, with over 2,200 flying in the US, Israeli and many air forces all over. And while Israel cannot take credit for all of it, no doubt the hundreds of improvements Israel fed back to the manufacturer due its heavy use by Israel to destroy the Iraqi nuclear reactor in ’81, to down over 100 Syrian planes while losing not one in 1982 Lebanon war, and in many actions since, helped make the F-16 the incredible success it has been over 40 years of its existence. Similarly with the F-15. And now with the antiballistic missile programsm the US really has gotten a BARGAIN in the US $3 billion aid. I’m convinced it has paid for itself in the positive feedback to US defense industries.
June 8, 2016
To: All U.S. naval officers who serve as captain of U.S.naval surface or submarine vessels.
Subject: USS Liberty Remembrance Day.
To wit: The following is a list of seamen and Marines who made the ultimate sacrifice in defense of their ship when deliberately and brutally attacked at sea by a hostile force in an act of war forty-nine years ago today. As a former Navy petty officer, I honor their service and memory.
U.S. Navy personnel:
CT3 Allenbaugh, William B.
LCDR Armstrong, Philip M.
SN Blanchard, Gary R.
QM3 Brown, Francis
CT2 Campbell, Ronnie, J.
CT2 Converse, Jerry, L.
CT2 Eisenberg, Robert B.
CT3 Goss, Jerry, L.
CT1 Graves, Curtis, A.
CTSN Hayden, Lawrence, P.
CT1 Hersey, Warren, E.
CT3 Higgins, Alan
SN Hoar, Carl, L.
CT2 Keene, Richard, W.
CTSN Lenau, James, L.
CTC Linn, Raymond E.
CT1 Lupton, James, M.
CT3 Marggraf, Duane, R.
CTSN Marlborough, David, W.
CT2 Mendle, Anthony, P.
CTSN Nygren, Carl, C.
LT Pierce, James, C.
ICFN Skolak, David
CT1 Smith, John, Caleb
CTC Smith, Melvin, D.
PC2 Spicher, John C.
GMG3 Thompson, Alexander, N.
CT3 Thornton, Thomas R.
CT3 Tiedtke, Philippe, C.
LT Toth, Stephen S.
CT1 Walton, Frederick, J.
U.S. Marine Corps personnel:
SGT Raper, Jack, L.
CPL Rehmeyer, Edward, E.
American civilian personnel:
Blue, Allen M.
I ask you as acting captains, to never forget the atrocity put upon these men who gave their lives in service to our Navy and the American people.
I also ask you to remember you have the ultimate authority to take whatever measures necessary to defend your ship and crew from attack. You also have the right and duty to deliver assistance if such support is requested by the commanding officer or senior officer in charge of other vessels commissioned in the United States Navy who are under assault from any aggressor.
No senior officer or civilian authority above you may issue a command that is in direct conflict with the safety of your ship or for those others who you deem to be in immediate peril of loss of life at sea. Such an order is unlawful and shall not be obeyed.
Article 99 of the UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice), sub-paragraphs (8) and (9):
“Any person subject to this chapter who before or in the presence of the
enemy–
(8) willfully fails to do his utmost to encounter, engage, capture, or destroy any enemy troops, combatants, vessels, aircraft, or any other thing, which it is his duty so to encounter, engage, capture, or destroy; or
(9) does not afford all practicable relief and assistance to any troops, combatants, vessels, or aircraft of the armed forces belonging to the United States or their allies
when engaged in battle; shall be punished by death or such punishment as a
court- martial may direct.”
Article 90 of the UCMJ says all orders are presumed to be lawful, and disobedience is at your own risk: “An order requiring the performance of a military duty or act may be inferred to be lawful, and it is disobeyed at the peril of the subordinate. This inference does not apply to a patently illegal order, such as one that directs the commission of a crime.”
It would be a crime not to defend your ship or another that is under attack by a hostile force, even if the President of United States told you otherwise.
“This is the captain speaking. . . “, words verbalized by the officer who wears the command-at-sea pin above their right shirt pocket. The senior officer who is looked up to by junior officers and enlisted servicemen serving aboard ship. The captain expects each of the crew to do their job. They in turn expect their captain to perform without fear of reprisal in the best interest of the ship, crew and other U.S. naval vessels needing help.
Here is a short quiz for your FITREP.
If you had the opportunity and means to render assistance to another ship
that was under assault; what would you do?
1. Proceed with all haste to defend the vessel and crew under attack.
2. Check first with Washington and ask the bureaucrats for permission.
3. Check first with the government attacking the ship for permission to render aid.
Answered with number one? Congratulations; you have what it takes to be a
leader in the U.S. Navy.
Answered with number two or three? You care more about your personal career
and less about U.S. Navy and Marine Corps personnel and the ships that serve in the fleet. Resign your commission and run for political office; you’re a natural for currying favor with foreign governments and the nuances of funding your campaign with bribes (i.e., “contributions”).
Each year on this day this list will remind the citizens of each of these United States of the heroic sacrifice these men gave in service to our country. The complete and satisfactory resolution surrounding their demise has not been sufficiently addressed nor have the perpetrators of these crimes of murder been brought up on criminal charges. No apology, no thirty pieces of silver, no statute of limitations will wash away the blood of corruption that allowed this to happen.
We want justice for those thirty-four brave sailors and Marines who perished and the one hundred and seventy-four that were severely wounded in battle at the hand of a so called “ally”.
It is the least we can do for the remembrance of Captain McGonagle and the crew of the USS Liberty.
Too bad the NSA got those fine sailers killed in a rogue spying operation against Israel, which these good men had no knowledge of.
The only way to get justice is to find the people in he NSA who did this dirty trick, if they are still alive and put them on trial for their deaths.
Your red herring is weak and does not change historical fact. The NSA did not kill those Americans, Israel did.
The NSA put them into that position. The crew was clueless.
How do you know that?
WHy doesn’t the NSA release all the information it has? I lifted the following tidbit from the Liberty website: http://www.gtr5.com/index.html
“The National Security Agency recently declassified additional USS Liberty related materials. Unfortunately, they did not declassify all of the materials they hold. The redactions in the materials released are inexplicable, other than in support of the continuing cover-up.”
So who is the NSA covering up for? Israel? I agree that Israel attacked the ship. The question is the motive. What could have been the motive? If the NSA was not doing anything wrong, why does it still withhold information?
“Rice said proved increasing aid to Israel isn’t a partisan issue in the US, but “an enduring American interest.
Code words from yet another of the neocon zionist trash that infests Washington. Of course what she really means is that traitorous filth like herself are ready and willing, at all times, to sell out their own country for the interests of Israel. Maybe she can get an oil tanker named after herself like the previous traitor named Rice.
I would imagine our new President ——- will have to prove themselves an even better friend of Israel by upping the amount beyond even this.
Trump supporters believe that Trump will do something positive about the Israeli apartheid regime and US support of it. But he won’t of course and so there is no hope of change on those issues.
In any case, Clinton is your next president and she will change nothing. Sanders probably would have but that hope is lost.
The most important message for antiwar people to start understanding is that no candidate can profess to be antiwar and then continue to survive. Please begin to accept that truth Americans. It’s a truth I wouldn’t even deny for Canada, even though it’s not as solidly so.
Regardless of your choice of a candidate fro president, a nuanced approach to understanding the candidate’s foreign policy agenda must be adopted. By doing that you may get a little bit of what you are working for and then continue to work to nourish the beginnings.
Trump won’t let enemies in, and send those already here back home.
Israel is a demonic theocracy whose taste for deception, theft, terror, and murder is unrivaled. To give aid to this beast is to disgrace all American taxpayers period.
More aid to Israel means more enemies to the USA
Trump will keep enemies out, and send those here back home.
No cash goes to Israel. It all goes into the pockets of Boeing, Lockheed-Martin, Raytheon and 20,000 US defense workers. That’s 20,000 workers @ $150,000 pay + benefits = $3 billion dollars of US taxpayer monies. However, Obama just released $25 billion to $150 biliioni back to Iran, which equals over 5- 50 years worth of aid to Israel.
The US will continue to support Israel as long as the US gets good value for it’s money. This is just reverse thinking to the common harangue and it’s based on the fact that Israel serves US purposes in the ME by asking for protection. Thereby legitimizing the claim that any entity that would challenge or attack Israel can be an enemy to be conquered.
Israel defeated the Arabs in 1948, 1956, and 1967 with no US arms at all. Or only WWII era surplus.It used French and British arms in fact. After Israel used the French Mirage III to destroy the Arab air forces, the French sold vast numbers to Pakistan and other Muslim countries who suddenly wanted it. When Israel began to acquire F-16s from the US, over the years it developed over 600 improvements that came back to its manufacturer, and helped make the F-16 possibly the best selling in US history. The US has gotten a lot back for its investments in Israel. Not in cash, but in improvements worth billions. Same today in ABM systems like Arrow, Magic Wand and Iron Dome. All these technologies 50% or more supported with US funding also belong to the US as well. Like a working partner and and investment partner.
Israel is a military outpost where U.S. weapon systems are tested against an indigenous population who are unable to fight back. The technologies you boast of deal in death and bring nothing but misery to humanity.
Arabs are indigenous only to Arabia. Everywhere else they are no more “indigenous” than Scots-Irish are outside of Scotland and Ireland. Also Israel produces a lot of its own weaponry today. And terrorists who shoot people in the back in restaurants, or behead Christian monks and take female slaves from Yazidis are not to be pitied. Their victims are.
Once again, yet again, I am being banned from posting by those moderators towing the party line. That’s why I am voting for Trump to ban them from coming here. Only “Palestinian” propaganda is permitted to get through.
you have not been banned all you dumb comments are still visible.
Donatella is blocking my posts. Some anti- Israel moderator is blocking my posts.
No, your posts were automatically held for moderation, probably due to including a lot of words typically found in hate posts. Once I saw them — which should have been earlier, but apparently Disqus is taking its sweet time, sometimes more than 12 hours, to show them in my moderation panel — they were approved.
Does Israel deserve on dime in foreign aid welfare from the American taxpayer?
One book I read told me absolutely not. It was written by Ilan Pappe an Israeli and professional historian. It is titled The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine. For further enlightenment I read the Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy written by John J. Mersheimer and Stephen M. Walt. It is about how the neocons control the Congress and U.S.foreign aid to Israel.
The “If Americans Knew” is the go to web site for up to date info on the U.S. Israel relationship.
GMAB!! Torpedoes are destructive devices designed to sink ships. The Israeli’s machined gunned sailors and marines in the water. Stop trying to sugar coat an overt act of war against a United States ship.
It anyone other than Johnson had been president the outcome for Israel might have been more dire.
Israeli ships did not shoot sailors in the water. Israel did everything possible NOT to sink that spy ship, but only to silence the transmission of intel to Egypt that the ship was automatically providing. That’s why the ship was not sunk, and only 34 -mostly in the control room – died. If the NSA had not commandeered the Liberty and did what it did, this would never have happened. No country, be it Britain, Israel or any country, can allow a spy ship, pretending to be friendly, to relay combat information to the enemy. It’s as if a US ship off the coast of Britain in 1940 was sending information to Nazi Germany.
There were lifeboats in the water with defenseless members of the crew in them. The inflatable rafts were machine gunned by Israeli motor torpedo boats; that’s a war crime (see: http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-uss-liberty-a-failed-israeli-false-flag-attack-against-the-united-states/5431151 ).
I’m still waiting for proof the U.S.S. Liberty was involved in helping Israel’s enemies …
Actually there were Muslims in America at least as early as there were Jews in America and they’ve always played a constructive role. But nice try.
I don’t comment on the parameters because that would lend itself to gaming said parameters. You might want to look up the meaning of “automatically” though.
Perhaps those parameters should be reviewed periodically? But it seems those who hurl massive insults and libels at Israel seem to get all their posts through somehow.
Not the crew. The crew knew nothing. They had no idea where they were, why they were there, or anything. They thought they were on a pleasure cruise in the Caribbean. The reception, decryption, deciphering, retransmission were all automatic. The crew was clueless. Only the NSA knew what was going, except for the Israel’s own “bletchley park” who realized that the American ship was gathering, deciphering, and retransmitting information on its IDF movements,and the IDF was suddenly finding greater Egyptian resistance, as if someone was letting them know where the IDF troops were advancing from, and so they were suddenly prepared and IDF losses began to rise. It could only be the American spy ship. All Russian and other vessels had left the area long beforehand.
Thank you for the answer, I did not know that. It’s a pity the generations that witnessed the WW2 and the cold war is fading away, further generations get only opinions and rewritten history
“The Israeli attack was very moderate “. To suggest that bullets, bombs and torpedoes can be configured to not be “too lethal” is beyond the imagination of even a child who plays with military toys.
However these two statements, “But they did not sink the ship. That was never the intention.” take the brass ring. There were over 800 cannon holes in the deck and hull of the ship (see: http://www.military.com/NewContent/0,13190,NI_Friendless_0603,00.html ). If you believe that’s not proof that Israel wanted to sink the ship then perhaps you need some medicine to help your brain think more clearly.
Your ludicrous points makes you appear as a fool to the public.
Fact: 34 out of 172 survived. The boat survived. If Israel intended to sink it, zero would have survived and the ship would be on the bottom. If Israel can destroy nuclear reactors in one strike, they could have sent that ship to the bottom. but that was never the intent.
The complement of the ships crew was 358 officers and men. 34 were killed and over 170 were wounded by Israel. That’s a statistic of more than 50 percent injuries and death. How does that fact that escape you that Israel wanted the ship to end on the bottom of the Mediterranean Sea?
You use a false argument that suggests the ship did not sink because Israel didn’t want that to happen; a blatant lie. You are a Zionist shill who tries to justify premeditated murder founded on fakery.
Here is a “brave” Israeli soldier armed with an automatic weapon choking a helpless Palestinian child with a broken arm.
We must never forget the brutality of Israel’s occupation.
Poor, poor baby. The soldier will probably use his blood to bake matzoh for Passover:) The little stone thrower will probably grow up to be a good shaheed. You know what they say about those “Palestinian” kids. They blow up so fast!
“I am going to repost this, I don’t see any reason why you would not accept it”
If something is held for moderation the first time, it will be held for moderation the second time as well. Reposting doesn’t make it any more or less likely that your piece will end up being approved. Its sum total effect is to annoy the moderator.
We have automatic filters that hold material which MAY violate our guidelines. And then an actual human (me) looks at that material. If it doesn’t violate our guidelines, it gets approved. If it does violate our guidelines, it gets deleted.
Your superstition doesn’t, as such, violate our guidelines, so by all means feel free to indulge it.
All’s I know, it’s on here now, my only concern taken care of, no matter how, it’s here Thomas…superstition? Ah, I guess you know nothing about history eh? I suggest you check it out, amazing knowledge to be found. Blessings to you!
http://www.hyperhistory.com/online_n2/History_n2/a.html
In deed this shows again the blackmail power the US Neocon Power Elite has by its deeds given to Israel´s Power Elite!
„USA
and Israel, the Helpless Giant and his Mad Dog: are there more dirty
secrets?“
http://wipokuli.wordpress.com/2014/08/12/usa-and-israel-the-helpless-giant-and-his-mad-dog-are-there-more-dirty-secrets/
Andreas Schlüter
Sociologist
Berlin, Germany
It is you who has been brainwashed by Zionist ideology. Stop the occupation of Palestine!
YOu’ve been brainwashed by terrorist propaganda. There is no “Palestine” nor “Palestinian” people. Just occupiers of Jewish soil who should have been removed by 1949, just as all Jooz have been removed from Araby.
Prove it if you can.
If Congress deeply investigates and calls ISrael to trial, then the proof will emerge from the NSA, because they will have to produce what they have been covering up.
Israel has no evidence other than they are psychopathic cravens who murder with impunity.
Your ilk does so much beheading and murdering that the world has given up with your ilk. The moral of the story, is that ISrael is not killing enough of its enemies in large numbers. Then the world wouldn’t bother Israel anymore either, because the more you kill, the less sensitized they become.
Zionists are like zombie vampires whose only purpose in life is to steal and murder.
If that were true, you wouldn’t even exist. Your grandmother would be in the same place mine is.
So the Europeans call my ancient homeland “Palestine.” So what?
There would be no modern day Israel without Palestine, it would not exist. Get over it.
please take your nonsense garbage else where.
nonsense.
your not talking to an idiot who has never heard about the subject, i lived in yerushaliam for the entire second intifada.
i don’t even think most israelis would agree with you. even Avigdor Lieberman who calls for expelling arabs wants to do it with a land transfer giving arab parts of israel to the west banks.
please find something better to waste your time on.
The Arabs are not the problem. Left wing Jooz have been the problem since Karl Marx, Leon Trotsky and Lazar Kaganovic. They should take their “Palestinian” and leave together to Birobijan.
ah yes the prozionist shows his true colors, just a (real) antisemite.
The reason why this conflict can never be solved is only because of the Left. And you know what? The Arabs have no respect for the Left. They respected Menachem Begin, Shamir, the Irgun, the Revisionists, the ones who say “This is our land” and do not compromise. The Bolsheviks brought Hitler to power,
Irgun Bomb Kills 11 Arabs, 2 Britons
the irgun? ah ok so you support terrorism against civilians as a legitimate means of resisting occupation,
As a temporary tactic, just like Michael Collins in the Irish revolution. The leftist Hagana tried to act like their hands were clean, while the Irgun did the ‘dirty work” and blew the British out. I’m only sorry that Begin did not win out over Ben_Gurion, the socialist. He would have driven all the Arabs out by 1949, across the Jordan river, and we wouldn’t have had these problems for the last 68 years. Every revolution has had a period of terrorism, even the US revolution. But only temporarily. Or as Begin wrote in “The Revolt,” freedom fighters.
we are not discussing 70 years ago, in a way i do agree with you, the zionist founders of israel where not just immoral but cowards who refused to go all the way with their unjust plan.
but now that is not the case, israel can not “drive all the arabs in to jordan” without causing a catastrophe on the level of the holocaust, and i for one as a jew would join up with what ever force set out to resist such an evil.
All my posts have been erased.I can’t answer you.
Lying isn’t against the rules here. But it does make you look bad.
Prove one lie that you claim I have uttered. Prove me wrong or lying on anything I have written! You can’t. You can say it, but not prove it.
good it will save people the trouble of having to forget your nonsense
I hope God forgets you and your ilk.
All of that ancient history is irrelevant, modern day Israel and its relationship with the country of Palestine is what matters.
For nearly 70 years Israel has occupied the nation of Palestine, its population is a captured people and collectively punished by the Zionist overlords. Palestine has been recognized as a legitimate independent State by over 100 nations (see: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/11/07/map-the-countries-that-recognize-palestine-as-a-state/ ).
But Zionist Israel acts like the Egyptian pharaoh of old who refused to release the Hebrews from bondage. Israel will never no peace until they respect the borders Palestine, the rights of its people to live their lives as they see fit. Get out of Palestine!
I disagree on the history being irrelevant, Palestine is not a state, no matter who recognizes it. You say you are kept in bondage, yet Palestinians still make every effort through Hamas to penetrate Israel through hidden tunnels. commit crimes in Israel against Israeli’s. It’s more like Palestine wants to infiltrate and take over Israel. Let’s not even mention all the bomb attacks on Israel by Hamas. If you really wanted what you say you want, why don’t you respect the borders of Israel? If you really wanted peace, why don’t you become peaceful? You are a walking contradiction, which makes no sense at all.
“Palestine is not a state, no matter who recognizes it.”
A state is a state whether anyone recognizes it or not. Things are what they are.
The State of Israel has borders like a wandering camel in the desert. The Zionists have no problem stealing Palestinian land and homes in the West Bank for their thuggish settlers.
Palestine is a sovereign State and you contradicted yourself when you put forth your pathetic opinion that Palestine encroaches upon Israel’s sovereignty. Your rejection of international law demonstrates the typical Zionist propaganda of mendacity and crime to justify its illegal expansion. Israel is a mafia of craven despots who are at constant war because of its avarice and maniacal belief the world owes them recompense for all their suffering they brought upon themselves. We owe you nothing!
Palestine and Israel will only coexist in peace when racist Zionism is defeated by the Judaic faithful who respect the rights of other cultures.
Referring to ancient history to support your Zionist agenda is a worthless argument. Leave Palestine you craven and stay in your own country!
You “Palestinians” have no history, hence nothing to refer back to 🙂
It is not Zionist soil; your risible disputation based on puerile rhetoric is a fabrication. Israel is like a spoiled child given a bar of candy then steals another and claims a right to have it. You Zionists are nothing more than brutish thugs and criminals who slaughter defenseless people at will.
What does that have anything to do with Israel illegally occupying the State of Palestine?
No such place exists. In the area the Romans from Europe called “Palestine” there exist two states: the State of Israel, and the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan. Maybe Palestine, Texas is the place you’re referring to?
You’re like a street vendor who offers implausible meme for sale to people walking by. They all laugh at your unbelievable hokum.
The most fraudulent non-existent merchandise being peddled for decades is “Palestine” by an Arab group who now call themselves “Palestinians.” False advertizing.
Zionism is a Rube Goldberg of political chaff where dog flies like you survive by nourishing themselves on the dead flesh of murdered human beings.
There is no Palestinian soil belonging to Israel except in the make believe world you’ve created. You reveal yourself as suffering from dyslexia. I pity you.
More blather based on incredible evidence. You’re a sad clown who lives in fairyland.
Your propaganda fails. It only works on brain-dead zombies. Not on people who can think.
Zionism is a racist ideology and Israel is an apartheid State. It pretends to represent the Judaic faithful as the basis for its existence but in reality it is a criminal enterprise who will use any measure to consume the wealth and resources of other regional nations. It chooses war as its principle foreign policy directive not peace through statesmanship.
You suffer from extreme paranoia. Go see a doctor, you need serious help.
I think your brain needs an undertaker. You’re brain-dead.
ok so give up the fake israel you stole from its inhabitants and move all israelies to judia and samaria
SUPRISE SUPRISE!!!
you have no idea what you are talking about and pulling things from your rear end
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribal_sovereignty_in_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Lakotah
Keep repeating that ancient mantra that no one in their right mind believes justifies murder and theft of other people’s lives and property. Israel would not exist without Palestine and Zionists like you who deny the truth are psychopaths whose souls are owned by the serpent of evil.
“Ziomism [sic]” is not Judaism no matter how much you squeeze the little pea inside the melon you call a brain in the hope people will believe it.
There is no Zionism Torah, there is no Zionism Tanakh, there is only the parasitic worm that claims to be based upon the word of our father, the God of Abraham. It is a false, racist ideology and blasphemes the Holy Tanakh. Zionism is too be condemned and cast into Perdition.
wasnt israel also the ones who gave aparthied south africa nuclear weapons.
ya they must have really hated there system of government.
Maybe there should have been a “two state solution” for South Africa? A big one for the Blacks, and a smaller one for the Whites.
I think the South Africans were quite capable of developing their own nukes. Anyhow, it’s been virtually proved that Pakistan helped Iran and Libya with their nuclear programs. Maybe Israel helped South AFrica, but there is no proof. With A.Q. Khan from Pakistan, there is solid proof.
We already gave up Gaza. I’d give up Ashdod and Ashkelon in exchange for Judah and Samaria if that’s what you’re asking.
gave up trying to steal it, and now are just trying to starve them out.
This IS a partisan issue! Rothschilds own Israel, wealthiest people on Earth and yet broke Americans gotta foot the bill for po widdle Israel! They are just as bad as those 80% of Muslims on Welfare. Disgusting.