While most people are focusing on the Syrian ceasefire, which has held since February, as an opportunity to negotiate a settlement to the civil war, the US and its “vetted rebels” are looking beyond it, making plans for the day when it collapses.
According to officials familiar with the situation, the CIA has been drawing up a “plan B” for the collapse of the peace talks, which will see a massive new influx of US weapons to “moderate” rebel factions, in another attempt to shift the war in favor of those groups.
If that sounds familiar, it’s because the CIA already had programs for arming “vetted” rebel factions earlier in the civil war, programs which ended with those groups no more powerful, and large amounts of US weapons winding up in the hands of ISIS and al-Qaeda’s Nusra Front.
“Plan B,” then, is really just America’s long-standing plan A, which has already failed, rebranded with a different letter, because nominally the US has to pretend it believes in the peace process it’s so eagerly planning for the collapse of.
The same plan, only moreso, as officials say the CIA is also planning to send even more powerful anti-aircraft weapons to the rebel factions, with an eye toward shooting down Syrian warplanes.
And Russian ones. With Russia now directly involved in the war, providing weapons to shoot down Russian planes seems a deliberately provocative action for the US, and ill-timed since they are supposedly negotiating a deal to team up against ISIS.
Though US officials continue to insist that the fight against ISIS is their primary focus in Syria, the import of anti-aircraft weapons reflects the administration’s priorities, which as ever involve fighting against Russia.
Insanity — there some really crazy people out there. Incapable of accepting defeat. Mthey have been arming Al-Qaeda/Nusra for a while now and “rebels”. Were nothong more then an excuse to arm both Al-Qaesa and ISIS. It is at this point irrelevant — what is needed is an outright Syrian Army vicgory to expell all militants. Then let prople vote. Assad must.be sick and tired of it all — and ghe best thing for Syria would be to have Army take over until peace is secured and people can come back.
It will rake a massive reconstruction to make cities livable. But there are some really crazy people that would rather blow the place to pidces then to allow the “vetted”. Al-Qaeda aka Nusra Front and Saudi sponsored ISIS be destroyed. If they cannot identify any such rebels /– or at least anyone who has not terrorized civilians — let us see them already. It is rather clear that sll the moaning about Russia not attacking ISIS was the result of Russia destroying Nusra Front arms. Now is time to resupply them?
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More militants are being created by Syrian/Russian airstrikes. When airstrikes kill civilians, people will become angry at the Syrian government. People will also become angry at Alawites because the top leaders of the Syrian government are Alawites. People will be also angry at Christians and Yazidis because they are allegedly on the side with the Syrian government. So airstrikes will not only create an anti-government sentiment, they will also create an anti-Alawite, anti-Christian and anti-Yazidi sentiment. These same sentiments are shared by the Islamic State. So people who are affected by the airstrikes will likely sympathize with the Islamic State. Syrian/Russian airstrikes are therefore an excellent recruiting tool for the Islamic State.
The Syrian government is probably the biggest terrorizer of civilians. It shot peaceful protestors in 2011. The Syrian government claimed that “rebels” shot first at police. But no shot was fired towards the police until the Ramadian in June 2011, three months after the Arab Spring protests in Syria. It also bombs residential areas killing civilians. Not to mention the executions, torture, starvation and rape of detainees in Syria’s prisons.
Shooting peaceful protestors alone are enough to radicalize people. In 2013, when the democratically elected President of Egypt, Morsi, was removed from power in a coup, Sisi then came into power. Sisi then brutally repressed Muslims to the point of shooting peaceful protestors and torturing detainees who are not loyal to the government. Due to these polices, the Sinai insurgency in Egypt grew larger never liked before.
The time when facile propaganda of this standard still had the slightest impact was three years ago. This is 2016, not 2013. The old lies are shopworn, try and find new ones.
Again, 3D, who are you, where do you live, how old are you, and what is you connection to the Sunni-Shia Islamic divide?
Islamic tribalists don’t do democracy, they do one sect rules the rest. One sect has all the guns, cops , and soldiers and dominates. The Sunnis in Syria want to be the ones wielding power and monopolizing the wealth of the nation…..at the expense of everyone else. Consequently, when a rebellion threatens to take the Alawites currently in charge and violently reduce them to the underclass, that rebellion is — well duh! –put down,…with whatever level of violence is required. That’s the way the Islamic world works. Get over it. Or go and join ISIS and see if you can win.
Like Libya, the problem is there hasn’t been enough US involvement in Syria … Now America and Israel just have to make sure the peace process fails.
I have said more than once since ’11 that US would not ever let go of syria until it achieves either the “A” or “B” plan.
Thus, been wondering if russia thought so and of the high probability being bogged down in a war which may last a decade[s] longer to the glee of nato, israel, emirates/their emirs, arab kings/their religion.
I, unlike most or all people on this site note that the nation gang; aka, nato behaves and thinks like any other gang; be it street, cosa nostra, byke..
Hey. Europeans, are you all set to have your airliners get shot down by the surface to air missiles your American slaveowners are giving to ISIS and al Qaeda? When that happens, don’t expect the slightest bit of sympathy from me.
It strikes me that this would be a handy way of raising cash for ISIS: get SAMs from Obama’s moderate cannibals and threaten to shoot down European airliners unless blood money is paid.
I agree with all of you until I got to the “moderate cannibals” part. The “moderate cannibals” should include the Syrian army, the Hezbollah militias, the Kurdish militias, the Yazidi militias and the Shi’ite militias. The Syrian army and pro-Assad foreign militias kill innocent people in “revenge attacks”.
http://news.antiwar.com/2015/02/10/iraq-yazidis-launch-revenge-killings-against-arabs-after-isis-ouster/
http://antiwar.com/blog/2016/02/13/us-supported-shia-militias-in-iraq-lead-ethnic-cleansing/
If you mean those who execute prisoners of war: all sides execute prisoners of war.
It isn’t the policy of al-Nusra to target civilians. When an al-Nusra shot dead 20 Druze civilians in June 2015, it was an isolated incident provoked by a heated argument between an al-Nursa fighter and the Durze civilians.
Not to worry. It’s all part of the long-range Bernard Lews/Zbigniew Brzezinski/Oded Yinon pland: “arc of crisis”/”arc of instability”/””A Strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties”
https://concisepolitics.com/category/cauldronization-of-the-middle-east-bernard-lewis-plan-of-early-zionist-neocons/
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/BRZ110A.html
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article33220.htm
This is what you get when you make war against the govt. You made your bed, now die in it. If you can’t do the time don’t do the crime.
Your comment is unclear to me? Are you justifying the killing of innocent people?
Where’s the evidence that all of those “innocent civilians” are giving material support to the so-called “terrorists”?
What do you mean when you say that those so-called “civilians” are giving “material support”?
Yeah, of course it was Assad who ate a heart on live video and Hizbollah who cuts off heads.
Oh, wait.
The Sunnis dominated the region for 400 years, during which time the non-Sunnis were subject to Sunni violence. Now the worm has turned, and payback is a b*tch. Where were you when Saddam was violating the Shia and the Kurds? Nowhere to be seen. Your Islamic tribalism got you into this, and until you find another way of dealing with the world, violent payback is what you will get.
Do unto others….
Didn’t we do this before in Afghanistan, supplying Osama and others with such weaponry to oppose the Russians. We are about to do it again? Wow! I’m amazed that Russia has not seen fit to supply similar weaponry to countries where we are using aerial activity to support our efforts. Payback can be hell. We are always flirting with disaster, as we think the rules only apply to others. We are again ready to let the genie out of the box!
It does sort of seem that the US needs to promote ISIS successes in order that they become a big enough success to take seriously, and then justify US war with Syria. Trouble is, that damn Putin isn’t going to allow it!
Let’s just nuke the world and get it over with a bang. Enough of this CO2 whimpering.
What could go wrong for the Empire of Chaos?
April 13, 2016 Ten Revealing War Lies
Let’s look at ten revealing moments in the history of lying about wars to see what they tell us, and then I’ll be glad to try to answer any questions I can. These remarks will be published at TeleSUR.
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2016/04/ten-revealing-war-lies.html
Yeah, send em’ more weaponry, instead of getting out of the middle east
Most likely much ado about nothing. The US doesn’t play war with nuclear armed nations that have the power to invoke MAD. Yes, it’s dangerous but we’ve made it for 70 years without an allout WW3 started by the US, and I’ve got a hunch we’ll make it another 70 at least!
The US has to come to the understanding that Syria and Iran are now “out of bounds” because Russia and China just aren’t going to allow any more Iraqs!
It’s just too bad that Assad can’t get his country back together and stop the slaughter of his people that was started by US interference.
The corruption and brutality of the war party knows no limits.
Still, there is hope – the rebels may not be stupid enough to go back to war. They could still cut a deal with the Syrian government and end the war. Then the Al-Qaeda factions will be isolated and defeated, and the war party humiliated.
If the NATO comes in and throws Syria back into chaos than the Russians can quickly come back and restore order again.
I wonder what Putin’s Plan B is, as he sees this Neocon frustration building. So far he’s won in Syria: a fragile and minimalist victory, but a victory nonetheless. He has secured the Assad govt at minimal cost, cleaved off the “legitimate” rebels from the US-UK-Saudi-Qattari-Turkey-sponsored mercenary terrorists, and forced a partial ceasefire that nevertheless leaves the Russian/Syrian forces — and anyone else so inclined — free to continue bombing the crap out of the foreign-sponsored mercenary head-choppers.
No doubt the Neocon all-war-all-the-time nut-jobs at State and elsewhere are apoplectic at having their ass handed to them and are ready to escalate, oh-so-confident that Putin will back down…..eventually. Their serial cluelessness vs Putin’s strategic mastery however suggests that Putin will beat them each and every time, until at last the Neocons are cashiered by someone in the govt who actually has a brain …. (and a spine).
The Russsias go so far and offer a deal. It’s then up to the empire to accept or reject the deal. If accepted it’s kept. If not then the Russians advance their position and offer a worse deal. And so on. If the ceasefire fails the Russians also have a plan B. It will be totally unexpected and will force another round of negotiations.