Speaking to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee today, Secretary of State John Kerry suggested the latest push for a ceasefire in Syria could amount to the last chance for one, and suggested that the US would see a partition of the country as “plan B.”
Kerry didn’t offer any details on how this would work, of course, but that fact that the US is mentioning partition at all is a huge step, as the US has fiercely resisted similar considerations in neighboring Iraq, which itself is facing a near identical war with many of the same combatants.
Kerry said if the ceasefire didn’t get into place, it would soon be “too late” to allow Syria to remain whole, and that the partition of the country could form an “eventual solution” to the civil war, which has raged for the past five years.
Though a de facto partition has existed in Syria for months now, with fighting along the margins, it’s unfathomable that the international community could recognize it as a de jure separation so long as ISIS controls around half of the country, and al-Qaeda’s Nusra Front has its own contiguous statelet in the north.
Though “partition” is meant to suggest a split on government-rebel lines, the reality is the rebels don’t hold enough territory to be a country, and the partition would amount to a recognition of the ISIS caliphate as a state of its own.
How about partitioning Turkey? Might as well let other countries develop plans to partition the US?
Partitioning countries, or grouping disparate people into one artificial country, and sowing the seeds of discord, is the God given right of the “master” race only.
It was always plan A.
Exactly, the secret master minds behind it are the zionists who constantly are following their Oded Yinon Plan and from Israel exactly these suggestions come now.
Everyone who carefully watched the events knew this from the very beginning.
Changing the borders of a sovereign nation without the acquiescence of the nation as a whole and each partitioned part is extremely dangerous and destabilizing. The US government and NATO already did that to Serbia and created the narco/human trafficking state of Kosovo. World War II started largely because of the border changes forced on Germany by the Treaty of
Versailles. The peace talks are already about partitioning Serbia so plan ‘B’ is a forced version of plan ‘A’.
Quote: ” World War II started largely because of the border changes forced on Germany by the Treaty of Versailles”. True but most of the changes involved lands stolen in wars by Prussia from France an Poland.
Nonsense!
Large part of Germany was axed and given to Poland. The occupied Germans were been terrorized by the Pollocks.
In 1939 England France declared war and started to bomb Germany cities.
USA wanted the same to happen in Ukraine but the Russians did not take the bait.
world world 2 started because the Poles were angling for Danzig to fall into their clutches and be one step closer the restoring the borders or Medieval Poland Hitler said lets get it on and Britain and France got in on the act because Hitler had played them for suckers over Czechoslovakia
The principal reason why Hitler invaded Poland (he hated Poles) was that his Panzers could not fly across Poland to attack the Soviet Union which was for him a far more significant objective than Danzig. A “Blitzkrieg” from German-occupied Poland into Belorussia and Ukraine was his only chance for victory. The Wehrmacht did not have the naval forces for landing operations near St. Petersburg.
You are totally ignorant about the history of Prussia to which I have referred. In fact the word Prussia does occur in my posting. You have ignored it.
The Kurdish YPG commits ethnic cleansing against Sunni Arabs. The YPG
displaced Sunni Arabs and burned down entire villages. The YPG has
threatened to order coalition airstrikes against Arab houses if the
Arabs don’t leave. Over 10,000 Arabs have fled their homes in response
of YPG advances.
http://news.antiwar.com/2015/06/01/reports-kurdish-troops-burn-arab-villages-in-northern-syria/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Protection_Units#War_crimes_allegat
Turkey started the Syrian ‘civil’ war with help from the Saudis and Qataris and with the knowledge of the elements of the US government. Turkey also likely gave CWs to the ‘rebels’ to create a false flag event. If Erdogan had minded his own country’s business, Sunnis (like Assad’s wife) would be better off.
Turkey is indeed a central player, but still just a tool. Take it all the way back to its origins: Zioni$m, Oded Yinon, and the Neocon/AIPAC take-over of the US Govt. Don’t let the Wolfowitz Doctrine “global domination” killers off the hook.
the US would see a partition of the country as “plan B.”
We heard the same nonsense about partitioning Iraq.
The USG and its EU flunkies are directly responsible for
the carnage taking place in the Near East and Africa.
The inept cowboy drunkard started the nightmare when his
corrupt murdering regime used outright lies as their
excuse to invade Iraq. Oboomer is no better; his corrupt
regime is arming (terrorists) in Iraq and Syria.
Next, they’re going to tell us Libya, Yemen, and Somalia
have to be partitioned.
A truce would be the best solution. Without a truce, civilians would continue to be slaughtered by both sides. Just yesterday Russia killed 20 civilians. Also Assad is a brutal dictator.
And 2U–Obama is a Saint.
By the way–where do you get your info from?
Seems 2 us you are lost. Try Yahoo or Bill O’Really sites.
I mentioned that BOTH sides slaughter civilians. That includes Obama. Read the two links. I have sources for all my information.
There are sources and there are sources. Your sources are crap. Syria was a peaceful and orderly place until Sunni troublemakers provoked by Zioni$t troublemakers — the Neocons — and trained and armed by the CIA and MI6 started shooting people. Then Turkey, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the US, France, and the UK joined in, sending buckets of money and guns to the killers. It’s all Oded Yinon and PNAC and AIPAC, and the Zioni$t take-over of the US Govt.
Arabs killing Arabs,……. for Isr@el. Sometimes I think “Sunni” means “too stupid to live”.
The good news is Russia (and China, quietly) are on the rise, and the US on the decline. The cops — one cop, actually and his name is Putin — have finally arrived in the Mideast, and Zioni$m’s days are numbered.
Five-thousand years of overreach followed by pushback,… the J*ws never learn.
to be fair it was only peaceful and orderly because Assad had a Gestapo and army with plenty of heavy weapons and he divided and ruled everybody else.
Yes, of course, but the term “Gestapo” is prejudicial. It is in line with the Western propaganda theme of demonization in that it suggests the archetypal evil of the N@zis. It would have been fairer, factually neutral, less inflammatory — to the point even of being trivial –, to say Assad, like all state authorities, had his FBI, CIA, and local police riot control forces and SWAT teams.
It was a classic regime-change set-up: get the Sunnis to take to the streets in protest; get some assassins to ambush the Syrian military, provoking them to start shooting back; shriek “brutal dictator”: and finally, send in the “moderate” jihadi killers-for-democracy.
That ridiculous criminal plan went south — surprise! surprise! — and then at last, Russia/Putin said “Enough!”.
Here’s a source from Yahoo: http://news.yahoo.com/mass-deaths-syrian-jails-amount-crime-extermination-u-130753471.html
But of course you would deny this evidence…even though Human Rights Watch also confirmed mass torture and killings.
First off, Yahoo news is one of the most ridiculous and Kool-Aid-centric “news” sites around. And the comments section gathers a top-tier group of “stupids”. (Could it be that “yahoos” are drawn like flies to shjt, by the very name of the site?)
Then, you write:
“But of course you would deny this evidence…even though Human Rights Watch also confirmed mass torture and killings.”
It takes a strong hand to keep the peace when you have fundamentalist head-choppers just itchin’ to grab a gun and take over. And an even stronger hand when those monsters get bankrolled and armed and set loose by hostile foreign powers. This is a very nasty, unnecessary, Zioni$t-generated, and foreign-power directed war of aggression against the legitimate govt of Syria and more to the point, against the people of Syria. I don’t approve of torture or civilian casualties, but the fault is not Assad’s, but rests entirely with the Zioni$t authors, their Sunni and Western tools, and the young, frustrated, and radicalized Sunni head-choppers hired from across the Muslim world.
I’m a 67 year old American and a J*w, a hard-left progressive from San Francisco, who refuses J*wish tribal complicity, and steadfastly opposes Zioni$t crimes. Israel is a geopolitical crime-in-progress, and “worse than a crime, it’s a mistake”.
Perhaps 3D, you’d like to come clean about your age, nationality, and ethnicity, so we can see where your bias originates.
A truce is, by definition, temporary. So how is that a solution?
The Korean War has been halted by a truce since the 1950’s. No peace agreement has ever been reached, just a cease-fire that’s held.
more like Plan B.S.
America wants to control/claim Syria’s Kurd area–most of Syria’s oil gas is located there. Also–main goal is long sought pipe line through Syria to feed Europe and put Russia O,O B.
Russia ain’t stupid to let it happen.
You got that right. Let’s hope the Kurds aren’t so stupid as to trust the US (and Israel). Much better to join with Russia/China
Kerry, the USA, are just out in fantasy land. He’s not talking about Nusra or ISIS, he’s talking about a partition with the imaginary ‘moderate rebels.’ (and perhaps baiting the YPG a bone, trying to get them to to start fighting the government.)
The cease fire is a farce. Therefore, partition is the real plan.
Partition would please many in this.
The Russians would get to keep Assad and all he means to them.
The Saudis would get a start on their Sunni dominance of more territory.
The Israelis would get all of the Golan, part of which they already annexed without any international agreement, not even the US. They’d also isolate Hezbollah so they could attempt to re-occupy South Lebanon. They’d also eliminate their only nearby state opponent. They’d be set to make demands on Jordan and Egypt to take territory “for the Palestinians.” The Greater Israel Project would be the big winner.
The losers would be the Turks, who’d get a Kurdistan on their border along their whole Kurdish region, and Iraq which would get the same. That means larger US interests would be damaged for the benefit of Israel and to a lesser extent of the Saudis — situation normal.
Syrian population would likely flow into Assad’s territory, proving that the regime change crowd was chasing a fantasy all along. Why? Because Assad really isn’t a religious crazy, and the rest are except the Kurds, who won’t welcome non-Kurds.
So the real loser will be the US and it NATO ally and recent war project in Iraq.
How about finally partitioning Israel?
I don’t often agree with Kerry but Plan B seems to be the only answer at this time to stop the killing. But the Plan must have input from the Alawites, Druze, Sunnis, Turks and Kurds to get a reasonably acceptable division of land. Nothing is perfect but something needs to be done. I know this will draw criticism…..instead of that, provide YOUR REALISTIC answer.
So, is this going to be like Ukraine where the US Allies are the main people breaking the truce, but the US uses the truce to beat other countries over the head because people are breaking the truce?
the US gvt has is and will continue to commit acts of war and crimes against humanity in Syria.. they have absolutely zero police powers, partition powers etc ANYWHERE! All in violation in of the laws of nations and US LAW!~
The evil imperialists continue with their evil machinations, as they have schemed for centuries and millennia.
We wait for a pox to strike their houses. Its been a long wait.
Say what? Senate Foreign Relations Committee today, Secretary of State John Kerry
suggested the latest push for a ceasefire in Syria could amount to the
last chance for one, and suggested that the US would see a partition of the country as “plan B.”
I am sorry. When did these individuals become anointed to carve up anyone’s land? They sound sooooo National Socialist Germany.