Saturday’s crash of a Russian airliner, killing 224 people on board, is being called a probable bombing by several nations, citing intelligence gathered on internal ISIS communications. The US said they had no specific intelligence prior to the incident but saw a flurry of activity in Sinai in the lead-up to the bombing.
British officials similarly confirmed their belief that the crash was likely caused by a bombing, and were the first of several nations to announce today that they are halting all flights into the Sinai Peninsula for the time being. The US isn’t banning flights, but is warning embassy employees to avoid the Sinai Peninsula pending further investigation.
Russian government officials are refusing to offer any confirmation for the reports, though the plane’s owner, Metrojet, is attributing the incident to an “external impact,” saying they are ruling out technical malfunction as a cause of the crash. Egypt’s military junta, most stubbornly, is refusing to increase security at the Sharm el-Sheikh airport in Sinai, insisting there is no proof that the plane was downed by terrorism.
That may be very much beside the point now, however, as Egypt’s tourism industry, already reeling since the 2013 military coup, seems certain to suffer another major blow with the loss of a major plane full of tourists, particularly in a likely terror attack.
ISIS affiliate in Sinai took credit for downing the plane almost immediately after it happened, though this claim was quickly dismissed by Russian and Egyptian officials as improbable. US officials, however, are now saying they intercepted private communications, which, in addition to their public claims, suggest they were something to do with the bombing.
US military satellites also detected a single “heat flash” before the plane crashed, likely an explosion. Though initially there was no way to tell if this was an accidental explosion or a bombing, the smart money now seems to be on the latter.
Why the hell would someone vacation in the Middle East in the first place?
Egypt has always been a great vacation destination. The Pyramids are a big attraction. Plus, the Red Sea is considered one of the best places in the world to scuba dive.
iT IS COLD IN tUSSIA AT THIS TIME OF THE YEAR!
I dunno, several thousand years of culture, great food, mostly kind people like everywhere. The question is why do people spend out the butt to visit Times Square & eat at the Hard Rock Cafe.
Because it's cheap! And the sun shines all year round. Europeans love their package holidays in the sun and Russians are no different from the rest of us. The "in" destination in Ukraine is, my Kharkov friend tells me, Greece, also very cheap at the moment, so the big beneficiary next summer may well be the Greek islands.
Good grief, stop with the MSM terrorist bombing promotion. All indicators are that Kogalymavia Flight 9268 plane went down because of an old tailstrike from November of 2001. The plane’s tail whacked the runway during a landing once 14 years ago, and the followup repairs didn’t hold up over time.
Similar incidents have taken down Japanese and Chinese aircraft, all due to inept maintenance. Tailstrike damage is akin to along-term ticking time bomb, but its not terrorism. If not regularly inspected at that fault, the plane can fail catastrophically years after the original incident.
The Russian airline company has every reason to promote the terrorist angle to avoid liability for maintenance incompetence. NATO, meanwhile, wants to score against Russian morale over Syria.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/10/31/did-accident-from-14-years-ago-doom-russian-plane-over-egypt.html
Yeah, it's pretty normal for an airplane to crash 14 years after an accident. Like the way coyotes don't fall into a gorge into they look down.
This sort of frantic attempt to rescue Putin, like the drone argument of yesterday, simply illustrates the scale of the political disaster this represents for Putin.
I think there is a cover-up going on regarding how this plane was taken down. ISIS most likely took it down with a stinger missile from guess where? But the declared narrative is and will be that it was a bomb planted on the plane.
Stinger missiles are a shoulder fired weapon incapable of reaching 30,000 ft. Not saying that you're wrong about anything else, but it couldn't have been a Stinger.
All indicators are that Kogalymavia Flight 9268 plane went down because of an old tailstrike from November of 2001. The plane’s tail whacked the runway during a landing once 14 years ago, and the followup repairs didn’t hold up over time. A heat flash could indicate the moment explosive decompression of the cabin and breakup of the aircraft.
Similar incidents have taken down Japanese and Chinese aircraft, all due to inept maintenance. Tailstrike damage is akin to along-term ticking time bomb, but its not terrorism. If not regularly inspected at that fault, the plane can fail catastrophically years after the original incident.
The Russian airline company has every reason to promote the terrorist angle to avoid liability for maintenance incompetence. NATO, meanwhile, wants to score against Russian morale over Syria.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/03/africa/russian-plan…
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/10/31/…
There are no indicators that the tail repair failed. It's a possibility, perhaps a good one but so are other explanation. First they need to find the missing parts, if they haven't found them yet or are hiding them. Yes, poor repairs have caused planes to crash years later, in the past. But there are plenty of planes with repairs (including tailstrike) that don't crash. There's no word as far as I know on who did the repair for the previous owner. But we do know that the plane did pass the required regular checks. For all that we know, there could have been an aft pressure bulkhead failure unrelated to the tailstrike/repairs. Are you sure breakup of the plane would show up as a heat flash?
Our corporate rich created the Islamic State, surely if ISIS did the bombing, then our rich did the orchestrating.
Given the track record, I'll choose not to listen to 'unnamed' sources in US and UK intel. Been doing that ever since those idiots tried to tell me that Saddam had WMD, and I've rarely regretting waiting for real evidence.
And of course all these nations and agencies that now claim to have seen increased chatter didn't bother to share it with the Russians.
How do you know they didn't?
Are you saying they did?
Note that Ditz, who usually in a generous manner shares his own assumptions and conclusions based on US MSM "news", ignore what´s on every normal thinking person´s mind reading this:
If the all-mighty US surveillance system and it´s elusive "officials", in an area best described as "idle" for the moment, almost 100% can dedicate the crash of the Russian airliner to it´s local clients (they claimed to have planted a bomb) then how come all we got from them in the MH17 case, in an area crowded with US spy satellites, drones, AWAC´s and "advisers" on the ground, were referents to rumors on "social media" ?
Not even one grainy satellite picture there while the Russian military provided clear images. That ladys and gent´s is nothing you should elaborate on, move on……
From day one, the US said that MH17 had ben taken down by a missile. Nobody contested that. Pictures are so easy to falsify that it hardly matters. And I don't recall seeing any pictures showing the missile being fired or identifying those who fired it and showing that that missile was the one that hit the plane. All these frantic attempts at diversion simply show the scale of the political disaster this crash is for Putin.
Hate to sound like a truther but if this is a bomb attack then the blowback from Russian involvement in Syria has come round rather quickly. I wouldn't rule out some kind of state sponsored malfeasance by one of the regions intelligence agencies.
If a Saudi link to this comes out, which is not implausible given that Russia is bombing their guys in Syria, then there will be huge ramifications, and unlike the US with 9/11, the Russians wont think twice before releasing evidence which shows saudi involvement, there will be no redacted 28 pages.
A couple more events like this and the Russian people will start to question Russias mission in Syria.
You hate to sound like a Truther, really now? So you acually swallow hook line and sinker the entire phony baloney story, huh? Proud to be a Truther! We may be crazy but we are not stupid, and we are not wrong either!
So 'They' Say?! But 'They' have lied to you about just about everything, so why would you believe anytging 'They' have to say?
Are we not missing the point here!
If this is true, that the plane was bombed by ISIS, then the sponsors and supporters of ISIS are responsible.
The US has been bombing ISIS with crates of bombs attached to parachutes for some time.
What this means, point blank, is that the US bombed a Russian civilian plane loaded with passengers.
It takes some nerve to go about publicising who the most likely culprit is.
Essentially, a disaster for Putin. He's scared silly of body bags. And all this means that he's getting more and more bogged down in Syria.
When the Russians have been bogged down in the Middle East as long as we have, then maybe Russia will start worrying about it. Look at the bright side. Putin now has the option of bombing, invading and occupying any oil-rich Middle Eastern country of his choice, or might even have choices in the Western hemisphere, if he were to follow our lead. following 9-11.
Michael Kenny is an autistic anti-Russian propaganda retard. Witness how giddy he is at the deaths of murdered civilians because it causes “political problems” for Putin.
Guy’s a real sick asshole.
"Intel points to…" – but not Russian or Egyptian intel, at least not what they have released. In other words, just another story from the likely perpetrator or its bankroll. "Just a coincidence" there were military exercises going on at the same time, right?