Lawfully released by the Afghan government on Thursday, 65 detainees who were held for years by the US military at Bagram could find themselves targets again at any time, officials say.
While Rear Admiral John Kirby insisted the 65 “are not considered targets right now,” he also said that “every day we continue to go after enemies in Afghanistan” and that “nothing’s going to change about that.”
Of the 65, Kirby claimed the US had “strong evidence on all of them” and remains angry about the release of the detainees. Afghan courts said there was no credible evidence against those released, and reports have suggested that much of the US “evidence” amounted to the Pentagon just claiming the men were obviously guilty.
Officials suggested that anything the 65 men do to oppose the foreign forces would make them “legitimate enemies and legitimate targets,” giving the Pentagon an excuse it seems eager for to move against them.
Karzai said they are mostly CHILDREN………… Is this some new low in American lawlessness and war crimes against children….??????
Didn't catch where he'd said that; and it would be helpful to know. (?)
For decades US claims on behalf of Israel that Iran is just weeks from their atomic bomb. For decades they throw new round of sanctions struggling nation of 75 millions to death. USA – once the hope of oppressed people of the world has become criminal oppressor of the people. Real atomic arsenal of Israel has become "invisible" thanks to willful blindness of American politicians. Breaking international laws and norms by Israel has now become also the American way. Country of the almost perfect constitution willfully ignore their basic law. Quo vadis America?
The US has a Credibility problem, one cannot TRUST assessments as to whether someone is a terrorist or not!
The strange thing is…USg's still there for someone to act on… …like The Thing That Won't Leave, but –not just oblivious to hints– he's also a histrionic.
There's definitely a frenzy. http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Karzai-Afghanistan-Tali... "They have killed Afghan men, women and children," Dunford said, noting that two dozen inmates were tied to roadside bombs, the number one killer of Afghan citizens. "We believe some of the individuals previously released have already returned to the fight."
E.g.: Gareth Porter demonstrated that, however nice it is to credit 'civilians' to 'the enemy' it's wasn't a given that roadside bombs exceeded night raids.
E.g., what's 'returning to the fight'/'recidivism' meant in the past according to the Feds? http://podbay.fm/show/342959601/e/1386266458?auto… In at least three cases it meant talking smack about the US (='Asymmetric Warfare'). (and Peter B needs a new amp, btw.)
And the killing men women children bit…that would be one item up to them to prove in this current discussion; and the USg is already prone to war-by-insinuation. Hey, how 'bout telling us they also left Drop Weapons!
The strange thing is…USg's still there for someone to act on… …like The Thing That Won't Leave, but –not just oblivious to hints– he's also a histrionic.
There's definitely a frenzy: "They have killed Afghan men, women and children," Dunford said, noting that two dozen inmates were tied to roadside bombs, the number one killer of Afghan citizens. "We believe some of the individuals previously released have already returned to the fight."
E.g.: Gareth Porter demonstrated that, however nice it is to credit 'civilians' to 'the enemy' it wasn't a given that roadside bombs exceeded night raids.
E.g., what's 'returning to the fight'/'recidivism' meant in the past according to the Feds (~24:00-30:+) ? In at least three cases it meant talking smack about the US ~29 minutes: "Tipton Three… …When we finally asked for clarification they said …'by making statements that were adverse to the United States' …that's a form of asymmetric warfare so therefore they had been deemed to have returned to the battlefield." (and Peter B needs a new amp, btw.)
And the killing men women children bit…that would be one item up to them to prove in this current discussion; and the USg is already prone to war-by-insinuation. Hey, how 'bout telling us they also left Drop Weapons!
"…war-by-insinuation…" I like it!!! It's soooo much easier than actually having proof – and then there's that little thing called "global standing" where the word of the USG (pols and military, and of course the think tankers) is golden and should be believed at face value. I mean, it's the USG!!! They only have your best interest at heart, if they had a heart.
This is also the way the USG (and their masters in Jerusalem) are prosecuting the case for war with Iran. Agents have been saying for years that the Iranians are working toward a nuke and despite the lack of evidence and the estimates by 16 separate intelligence agencies within the USG they continue to bang the war drums based solely upon intentional disinformation and the agendas of those who do not have the best interest if the American people in mind. And now they act as if what they've been saying all these years is factual and an accepted fact because the press refuses to confront them for proof. As Bushco proved in the run up to the Iraq invasion, if you say something long and loud enough eventually it becomes accepted as proof, with the assistance of the press.
"…war-by-insinuation…" Credit Anthony Gregory, you're right, and that might have been AG's particular point when he said it, too…
A little slow, it finally hit me that the frenzy's almost as if Karzai jailbroke all of Bagram –65 couldn't possibly be the total population…
I guess Barbara Starr found 20+ pages that sez the 65 had been involved in activity against the occupation…too bad she didn't say she could back up Mr. Dunbar's claims that they'd killed Afghan women and children –possibly just intended to spice it up for a stereotypical librul (the people that certain nutjobs fixate on as if they're the only significant wartime home opposition).
I can't see a reason to hold people who really did just strike at an occupying force; aint that just the essential recreational pastime for freedom lovers everywhere…?
OTOH, when the Red Chinese occupy Utah, I'll be pissed if the governor releases the resistance to them, too. He damn well better keep dem terrorists away from my womens and childrens…(and sheep).
"noting that two dozen inmates were tied to roadside bombs, the number one killer of Afghan citizens."
Difficult to believe that "roadside bombs" kill more "civilians" than nasty old Uncle Sam……..!!!!!!!
"noting that two dozen inmates were tied to roadside bombs, the number one killer of Afghan citizens."
Difficult to believe that "roadside bombs" kill more "civilians" than nasty old Uncle Sam… and his "shooting People is Fun" crew that is shooting the place up with bullets and depleted uranium….
Amerika thinks(?) they are the judge , jury AND POLICEMAN of planet earth…How f wrong they are…..Blowback will be severe..
Rear Admiral John Kirby forget to mention that they are training and arming the same enemies to do battle in Syria.
It works for Israel. Killing them in jail can cause trouble, Let them out and its like skeet shooting and you save money having to feed them.
Now if there was just some way to use them to make matzoh, soap, or harvest organs, the 'system' would be a 'world beater'.
Gimme a sieg?
The US is systemically insane. The US is making far more terrorists than it kills, it is alienating every other Nation on Earth, and at the same time it is turning inward, accusing it’s own Citizens of being terrorists if they protest or voice an opinion or insist the government abide by it’s own laws.
Why don't the Afghans kill Kirby and people like him first?
This is why the US has to get completely out of Afghanistan. For crying out loud, accept the fact that Karzai won't sign the SOFA, and leave!
This is why the US has to get completely out of Afghanistan. For crying out loud, accept the fact that Karzai won't sign the SOFA, and leave!