A new bill from Sens. John McCain (R – AZ) and Tim Kaine (D – VA) would dramatically change the legal status of the United States in starting future wars across the world.
McCain noted that the Constitution grants Congress the power to declare war, saying the reason they never bother to anymore is that war is “changing” and he wants to change the rules.
The bill would repeal the 1973 War Powers Act, which attempted to set a new standard for starting wars but which has been ignored by many presidents in their assorted conflicts. It would replace it with a similar law urging “consultation” with Congress and a vote within 30 days of any “significant” conflict.
Sen. Kaine said the War Powers Act had failed and it was time for the US to “normalize the appropriate level of consultation” ahead of wars.
President Obama has famously flouted the War Powers Act, openly refusing to bring the Libyan War up to a vote in 2011, and claiming the right to attack Syria in 2013. It was only after huge public opposition that he agreed to “consult” Congress on Syria, but even then his administration maintained they could’ve launched the war at any time over the explicitly rejection of Congress.
The replacement law is filled with exemptions, allowing the president to unilaterally start wars of a “humanitarian” nature and not needing consultation on “secret” military operations.
The exemptions suggest that the new law, if it indeed is passed, will be just as prone to being ignored by presidents. That may even be by design, since McCain, a noted hawk, has repeatedly urged President Obama to start wars without Congressional approval, saying Congress wouldn’t dare do anything about unilateral wars anyhow.
So who really is behind this/wrote this idiotic bill?
So who really is behind this/wrote this idiotic bill?
So who really is behind this/wrote this idiotic bill?
So who really is behind this/wrote this idiotic bill?
Aipac!
The bill is just an insurance backup, the US will act unilaterally on most countries they think are inferior in military strength, or without nuclear capabilities.
"The exemptions suggest that the new law, if it indeed is passed, will be just as prone to being ignored by presidents. That may even be by design, since McCain, a noted hawk, has repeatedly urged President Obama to start wars without Congressional approval, saying Congress wouldn’t dare do anything about unilateral wars anyhow." -That's the first thing that went through my head-McCain is gung-ho with Obama when it comes to war.
"The replacement law is filled with exemptions, allowing the president to unilaterally start wars of a “humanitarian” nature and not needing consultation on “secret” military operations." -"humanitarian"…that's pretty open-ended, isn't it? McCain thinks most wars Are some kind of humanitarianism…that's the reason that was given for the "need" to go in and blow Syria up. Humanitarianism my arse!
"Humanitarian war" is an oxymoron devised by warmongers to facilitate the killing, invasion, destruction of foreign entities (states and people) by the State. When a bill like this is loaded down with an extensive list of exemptions, one can usually be sure that the real purpose of the bill is not what is being advertised.
Any bill proposed by John McCain should be immediately thrown in the circular file. Hasn't he does enough damage already?
Why is McCain allowed to do anything other than be in charge of the TV remote? This doddering old fool needs to be retired already.
Oh boy! A new fig leaf! Good. They need a lot of fig leaves in The Swamp.
Of course we can always count on the Principal Swamp Monsters to oblige.
The supremacy clause of the U.S. constitution states, more or less, than any treaty signed by the United States becomes the law of the land. Thus, the United Nations charter, to which the United States is a signatory, is the law of the land for the United States. That does not mean the constitution is dismissed, but rather that the conditions of the U.N. charter are appended to the U.S. constitution.
From Chapter II, paragraph 4:
All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations.
In the case of Iraq in 2003, unlawful threats of war were made by those members of Congress who voted for the authorization to use military force against Iraq . The members of Congress who affirmed that document in the name of the state, committed by doing so the war crime of making an unlawful threat of war.
That's war crime number one for the members of the United States Congress: unlawful threat of war.
George Bush, Dick Cheney and company, principals of executive power of the U.S. state, then made unlawful, aggressive war against Iraq.
That's war crime number one for Bush Cheney and company: unlawful aggressive war.
Then, members of Congress saw fit to amplify their lawlessness by proceeding from mere threats to the more severe criminality of direct material participation in war making. By providing follow on funding, repeatedly over the ensuing years, the members of Congress then added to their bill of indictment, serial counts of the making of unlawful aggressive war.
Whatever other purposes might be fulfilled by the McCain/Kaine bill, it should not go unnoticed that it would provide them a kind of "get out of jail free" card from the threat of prosecution for war crimes which hangs over their heads currently, as a consequence of their role in the unlawful Iraq war.
What happens with the McCain bill is uninteresting to me. What is interesting to me is the possibility of curing the plague of criminality that currently infests the U.S. government. That cure would come in the form of the arrest and prosecution of all members of Congress and the executive branch and their various enablers who participated in the unlawful war in Iraq.
To my knowledge, there is no statute of limitations for war crimes. Which means that someday, if the citizens of the United States can ever get their head straight,… …
The supremacy clause of the U.S. constitution states, more or less, than any treaty signed by the United States becomes the law of the land. Thus, the United Nations charter, to which the United States is a signatory, is the law of the land for the United States. That does not mean the constitution is dismissed, but rather that the conditions of the U.N. charter are appended to the U.S. constitution.
From Chapter II, paragraph 4:
All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations.
In the case of Iraq in 2003, unlawful threats of war were made by those members of Congress who voted for the authorization to use military force against Iraq . The members of Congress who affirmed that document in the name of the state, committed by doing so the war crime of making an unlawful threat of war.
That's war crime number one for the members of the United States Congress: unlawful threat of war.
George Bush, Dick Cheney and company, principals of executive power of the U.S. state, then made unlawful, aggressive war against Iraq.
That's war crime number one for Bush Cheney and company: unlawful aggressive war.
Then, members of Congress saw fit to amplify their lawlessness by proceeding from mere threats to the more severe criminality of direct material participation in war making. By providing follow on funding, repeatedly over the ensuing years, the members of Congress then added to their bill of indictment, serial counts of the making of unlawful aggressive war.
Whatever other purposes might be fulfilled by the McCain/Kaine bill, it should not go unnoticed that it would provide them a kind of "get out of jail free" card from the threat of prosecution for war crimes which hangs over their heads currently, as a consequence of their role in the unlawful Iraq war.
What happens with the McCain bill is uninteresting to me. What is interesting to me is the possibility of curing the plague of criminality that currently infests the U.S. government. That cure would come in the form of the arrest and prosecution of all members of Congress and the executive branch and their various enablers who participated in the unlawful war in Iraq.
To my knowledge, there is no statute of limitations for war crimes. Which means that someday, if the citizens of the United States can ever get their head straight,… …
The supremacy clause of the U.S. constitution states, more or less, than any treaty signed by the United States becomes the law of the land. Thus, the United Nations charter, to which the United States is a signatory, is the law of the land for the United States. That does not mean the constitution is dismissed, but rather that the conditions of the U.N. charter are appended to the U.S. constitution.
From Chapter II, paragraph 4:
All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations.
In the case of Iraq in 2003, unlawful threats of war were made by those members of Congress who voted for the authorization to use military force against Iraq . The members of Congress who affirmed that document in the name of the state, committed by doing so the war crime of making an unlawful threat of war.
That's war crime number one for the members of the United States Congress: unlawful threat of war.
George Bush, Dick Cheney and company, principals of executive power of the U.S. state, then made unlawful, aggressive war against Iraq.
That's war crime number one for Bush Cheney and company: unlawful aggressive war.
Then, members of Congress saw fit to amplify their lawlessness by proceeding from mere threats to the more severe criminality of direct material participation in war making. By providing follow on funding, repeatedly over the ensuing years, the members of Congress then added to their bill of indictment, serial counts of the making of unlawful aggressive war.
Whatever other purposes might be fulfilled by the McCain/Kaine bill, it should not go unnoticed that it would provide them a kind of "get out of jail free" card from the threat of prosecution for war crimes which hangs over their heads currently, as a consequence of their role in the unlawful Iraq war.
What happens with the McCain bill is uninteresting to me. What is interesting to me is the possibility of curing the plague of criminality that currently infests the U.S. government. That cure would come in the form of the arrest and prosecution of all members of Congress and the executive branch and their various enablers who participated in the unlawful war in Iraq.
To my knowledge, there is no statute of limitations for war crimes. Which means that someday, if the citizens of the United States can ever get their head straight,… …
We should have left him at the "Hilton" back in the 70s.
Jeff Davis Bush and Cheney are certainly war criminals, so are Obama and Hillary, please give the whole story.
More McCain stupidity. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. If it is broken beyond repair, don't bother to try.
A President can get away with flouting the War Powers Act (or any other statute) as long as 67 Senators are unwilling to remove him from office for it. Obama is regarded as a Messiah by his supporters, and no Democrat will ever vote to remove him from office for anything. So, war powers legislation is meaningless.