Few wars in recent history have been such overt proxy wars as the Syrian Civil War. The Assad regime is clearly losing popularity domestically, and reliant on foreign backing to keep itself in power. And while the rebels try to claim some connection to the anti-Assad protests, it is clear that they are more interested in selling themselves to the international community than to the public of cities they capture.
Influence is a buyer’s market in Syria, and while nations like Russia and Iran continue to back the existing regime, there are no shortage of other nations, from NATO to the GCC, looking to throw money and arms behind the rebels, in hopes of eventually installing their own bought and paid for allies in Damascus.
Even nations that seem keen to stay out of the proxy war are getting dragged in, with Iraq suddenly finding itself accused of backing Assad, who they’ve never particularly cared for in the first place, on the grounds that are allowing their close ally Iran to use their airspace for shipments to Syria. Sen. Joe Lieberman (I – CT) blasted Iraq, warning that their ties with the US, which occupied them from 2003-2011, were at risk.
As Iraq looks for a way out, Egypt is looking for a way in, with President Mohamed Mursi demanding Assad step down immediately, while trying to position himself as a spokesman for the Arab Spring movement regionwide. Turkey, already hosting the rebels and openly backing them, also blasted Assad again today, calling Syria a “terrorist” state because it is fighting its own people.
Which is a tough thing for Turkey to get all proactive about with a straight face, as even today they launched air strikes against rebel targets inside their own nation as part of a civil war against ethnic Kurds that has been going on for nearly 30 years. Turkey, like Syria, argues their own rebels are “terrorists” and must be wiped out, and like Syria doesn’t seem particularly successful at doing so.
But Iraq seems to be the major story in the proxy war today, and as the US ratchets up the rhetoric against what was itself supposed to be a US puppet state (installed in a bloody decade of war) the Maliki government is pushing for some actual evidence to back up the allegations. Evidence has never been the strong suit for hawkish US officials, who are instead pressing Iraq to start boarding planes to search for the evidence themselves.
US and EU and their allies are not succeeding in their effort to win the Syria war, so now they looking for any other excuse they possibly can find anywhere, the even would blame the Native Americans for their unsuccessful wars. Next on the list is god, they haven't blamed the mighty or might or whatever it is yet.
As far as I know, there are no foreign government or organizational forces (bodies) providing security for the Nation of Syria in any official capacity under Assad's direct rule. I guess there is always a grey area in most militarily and 'security services' around the World, as even the US has a program where aliens (non-US citizens) can serve in the US Military and actually use such service as a way to acquire US citizenship…but this kind of thing does not even seem relevant here…
Yes…there is that time when the 'terrorist' rebels hijacked that bus full of middle aged Iranian citizens and paraded around the retired member of Iranian revolutionary guard as "proof" Iran's military was operating inside Syria, but this obviously was not serious…
Hypothetically speaking, if it were possible to remove every single 'weapon' (or anything that could be used as a weapon) out of the Nation of Syria…and just to help out the "other side", leaving the foreign 'terrorists' fighters currently in the Nation of Syria to fight along side with the domestic 'terrorist' rebels…and leaving everyone to 'duke it out" in a fist fight….who do you think would win? I'd put all my money on the Syrian military and security services.
But even leaving out people who are technically in the Syrian Military and part of the Syrian "Security services"….how many people are in the Syrian Civil service from the national down to the local level? How many "rebels" are in the Nation? I'd still take the Regime on this if it came to a fist fight….
What about civilians? We've all heard about the infamous "pro-government" 'militias' outside of the actual regime who are allegedly taking it upon themselves to fight rebels"…in fact, typically when there is a "massacre', it's always blamed on the "under-cover-cover" non-regime "pro-government fighters"? What if it was left to Syrian civilians who do not support the "rebels" to duke it out with the "rebels"…who would win…. I'm fairly sure the the "rebels" would get completely steamrolled here…as I doubt there are all too many 'fans' of the "rebels" right now.
I'd even be willing to bet that an Assad vs. "Rebel" opinion poll and/or "election" would end fairly one-sided in Assad's favor… This can be tested… So why not deploy Zogbey, Pew Research, and all the leading pollsters to get a 'sense' before whipping out the pom-poms for the "rebels"? Even better, an "election" would seem like a great test here….
I'm not sure why the lame-stream seem to all of a sudden be political pundant "experts" on a Nation they are not in and all assume that even though the Syrian regime is in tact and function extremely well considering the fact there is an proxy war funded and backed by foreign powers and foreign fighters–one even being the US–that somehow the regime is "week" and has little to no domestic support? This doesn't seem to make sense. Many of these same idiots act as political Pundits of the political situation inside the US (the Nation many of these idiots actually live in and are citizens of)–and they are often wrong…
This whole thing is "crazy"…even if Assad theoretically 'stepped down', we all know idiots in the US and other associated "allies" would not be satisfied, as they would claim–at the very least–Assad was still pulling the strings behind the scenes–and I doubt there would be a significant policy change–even if he wasn't….
There have been reforms and there is a "Presidential Election" scheduled for 2014…Assad is on-board with "elections", as there have already been local and Parliamentary "elections"… What is 'insufficient' here?
Reforms…elections…"Arab Spring" accomplished… So what's the problem?
So what do these people and their proxy-masters truly want that would truly end their violence and campaign of terror against the "Syrian people"? This whole thing is bizarre really if you take the lame-stream narrative as gospel–and the "narrative", along with the broad buy-in and acceptance of it it, is driving me insane…
If there were no weapons or fear of the regime, not only would all the Sunni civilians fight against Assad, but so would the vast majority of Sunni conscripts. You're actually claiming that an objective poll would show most people supporting Assad?!?
And I don't particularly care what the U.S. government wants in Syria. I'm with the Syrian people.
I'm not a "pollster"…I'm also not Syrian… Syrian Presidential elections are scheduled for 2014… Parliamentary and local elections have already taken place… What's the point of even "debating" hypothetical here? The "Syrian people" can handle this via the ballot box… Do you have a better idea? I certainly haven't heard any constructive 'ideas' in terms of moving forward coming from the 'rebels' or their masters…. It seems to me they just want to kill people…
I suppose everyone killing each other is preferable your mind? It won't solve any problems, it will most likely make things worse fore everyone…but some may "feel better" with the violent "revenge" thing … until they get killed–at which point they will truly be "free"…
Again…your mouth means nothing…let the "Syrian people" decide this…either that, or fly to Syrian and join the "Revolutionaries" in their quest for "freedom"–I fully endorse this. Please go be a "martyr" for Hillary Clinton and Bibi… It's what "Allah" wants…I assure you…
As if the people fighting to get out from under Assad are doing it for Hillary and Bibi! The U.S. is really not the center of the world…
Those who are fighting the Syrian government are from Guantanamo, the leftovers of terrorism from Afghanistan and Iraq, those whom are fighting the legitimate government of Syria are not the Syrian people but mercenaries as Saudis Barbarians paid by Qatar's feudal (AS you are) system, if the Syrian people were behind this war they would have win the war long time ago, get this into your head MohalhAbullla dont make this a religious war, on the surface is looks like that, but deep inside is a war orchestrated by the west using you and others as clown of the west doing their dirty job, this how to separate nations by their religious,tribe and nationality, they have done it for long time and you Moullah/s still don't get it, Muhammad Morsi need 7 billion dollars to solve Egypt economic problems for now, his been offered 1billion by US to support US policies, he also asked the IMF for borrowing the rests, IMF is owned by Saudis, US, EU, Israelis and more, so don't think that Sunnis are not better servant to US and EU interests then what Israel is, or Morsi is the man for democracy in Egypt, if he was he would already been offering a peace deal in Syria.
The fighters are all from Guantanamo? Where do you all get this stuff…?
You all really believe that the U.S. controls everything, and what they want is all that counts? There's the whole rest of the world out there, and the U.S. is becoming increasingly irrelevant there.
You think that the people of Syria are so stupid that they don't know what's going on in their own country, but that you somehow know better? How arrogant! People outside the U.S. are not as ignorant as the typical American. They actually follow the news (not merely celebrity news) and know about not only their own countries, but even other countries – something not the norm in the U.S.
But continue to deceive yourselves. The world will go on anyway…
It's great to watch the growing mess that the U.S. created in the Middle East.
The U.S., a Christian country (I use the word 'Christian' in a facetious way) couldn't organize a church chicken raffle properly let alone try to deal with all the forces in the Middle East.
The U.S. should give up world diplomacy and trying to bully the nations of the world using brute force and go back to its homeland and try to do something for the Red Indians, the few who survived its genocide.
It might even get a few brownie points!
The US is really bad at this. West Germany and Japan were hugely successful nation building projects and it went to their head.
The Native Americans will be just fine with their casinos, if they manage it right. People are gambling suckers
The British foreign secretary was attacked in the House of Commons two days ago by an MP not noted for his liberal positions as pursuing a catastrophic policy.
Hague then claimed he only wanted a "transitional" government of the Syrian government and para-militaries to be appointed.
I am concerned by the failure to address this.
This is NOT new – remember Jugoslavia, where all this kind of stuff was trotted out and Western Liberals and media all ran along, despite warnings by those who knew.
The same Islamicist paramilitaries were used,, with the same huge denials. We know this because apparantly the Saudis promised Washington policymakers this was the solution but they would control them this time around.
What has alwaysbeen said for 20 years is what will happen when there is serious opposition by a government and nation to these Interventions and Destabilisations and htey decide to fight back like a Western nation would.
This appears to be happening. Remember Vietnam.
Whatever it takes, my friends, whatever it takes.