US officials may be outraged at the notion that the US might some day soon not be occupying Iraq, but for Iraqis the idea is less scary than exciting, something they’ve been hoping for throughout years of ugly civil war and massive death tolls.
In the government and on the streets there is almost no support for a continued occupation, particularly with the Sadrist faction promising a return to insurgency if they tried to stay. A handful of Iraqi officials expressed concern over what post-US Iraq might mean for their futures but this appears to be a tiny minority.
“They were part of the reason behind the ethnic and sectarian tension,” noted Saad Muttalbi, and indeed there seems reason to believe that a lot of the unrest, particularly among Shi’ite militias, is simply going to disappear the minute the US troops leave.
For the Obama Administration, the hope was always to keep “trainers” in the nation, but Iraq’s government stood firm on demands for blanket immunity that would give those “trainers” the same status as combat troops. It was this line in the sand that forced the US pullout, and the hope for a day when US troops don’t have the run of the nation which convinced Iraq to finally settle on refusing this immunity.
It's the ONE PERCENT of collaborators that needs the protection of foreign troops. However, the leaving troops will be replaced by highly paid private contractors and mercenaies, supported by drones. The troop withdrawal is another deception. Iraqi resistance will continue.
Yea American troops have to have immunity. That tells you right there that they were planning on doing more than just "training." The US government is outraged, I mean, here at home the police have immunity and can pretty much maim or kill whoever they want to without any consequences other than a paid vacation while they get to investigate themselves. If immunity is good enough for police abuse of Americans it ought to be good enough for the Iraqis.
The US have already lost Iraq and Iran is in control. No point in trying to deny it by saying they will be ringed by troops etc. Reality is reality, np troops on the ground, the war will now switch to a Saudi spring.
http://www.debka.com/article/21412/
There is a whole new continent waiting for the Yankees Troops to play their Killing game in the name of peace.But I WONDER will these killing beings will not meet the same fate.What makes them think so?HUH….
For once everyone is in agreement: The Iraqis want the troops out. The American people want them out. Indeed the world wants them out.
Isn’t it interesting that nobody but Jason talks about what the Iraqi people want for Iraq. John “bomb Iran” McCain and most of his neocon republicans with the noteable exception of Ron Paul are more concerned with what our military-industrial complex wants.
YOUNG LABORING MEN — POLICE STATE
JLS, says, “If immunity is good enough for police abuse of Americans it ought to be good enough for the Iraqis.”
Empire USA, like all empires, can only function by criminal acts, which can only be accomplished under the cover of darkness by a pretense that whatever our legalized killers do is legal and above all law.
This is why our police may kill any fighting age laboring men who lacks fearful submission to authority, a laboring man being the 49% of our men without education beyond high school. This is why 25% of all prisoners on earth are housed in America and virtually all fighting age laboring men age 12 to 40.
For all of law enforcement is of the educated middle-class and they spend 95% of their time policing fighting age laboring men.
Such ingratitude!!! We took a modern, functioning society and pushed them back a hundred years by destroying most everything they've built and they want us to leave?
Where's the love and adulation:
Cheney: "…I really do believe we will be greeted as liberators."
Wolfowitz: "These are Arabs, 23 million of the most educated people in the Arab world, who are going to welcome us as liberators."
snark.
I know, it's almost as if they don't want us to invade their country, kll their people and build huge American like prison complexes to put as many people in cages as possible. Ungrateful bastards.
if I remember correctly Cheney was fired from his job before gthe VP position came up and wolfie was fired from his new position after being rewarded for being an agitator for war. kickiing the losers up the ladder is not a good idea apparently.
can you blame them?
If my country was occupied and my people used for target practice by foreigners I think its safe to say we'd want them out too. And more than a few people would fight them tooth and nail until they were all gone for good.
Actually, if both the Sunnis and Shiites had joined to fight the foreign criminals, their escape à la Saigon would have been the best-case scenario.
If an Arab army had been occuppying the USA for the past eight years, I'd be happy to see it leave too.
Four US soldiers were killed in Afghanistan on Saturday, October 22. Three died in Kandahar from an IED attack. Another US soldier died in Logar province from a vehicle roll over during combat.
I bet they are. Not that US politicians could possibly understand why anyone in the world wouldn't want to be invaded, occupied and drone bombed. We should send those bastards and their families to live with common Iraqis and Afghanis for a couple of years. Only way they may see the light.
Unfortunately, the Iraqis' troubles with the USA and Israel are far from over. Contractors and secret services will continue to stir up Shia / Sunni war. What can we do to slow them down?
The most ignorant thing I hear the American government say is they should be paid for liberating Iraq with oil.All they did was murder about 1 million people and destry the country withch will take like said already 100 years to fix.I said it 100 times America and Israel by dictionary meaning of tewrrorists and most peoples are the worlds biggest by a huge margine.Before I would want to see these unlawfull wars for most my life I would rather a full nucular war at least just the bad guys would die also.