“We’re going to punish even those that supported Moammar with words.” That was the grim warning from one of the rebel fighters poised to attack Moammar Gadhafi’s hometown of Sirte.
It was warnings like these, as well as the violent depopulation of loyalist cities like Tawarga that has Sirte’s civilian residents hoping to flee, with many families looking to head out of town as the rebels move in.
Getting out is easier said than done, however, as civilians trying to flee find themselves captured by the rebels and checked against long lists of dissidents which they intend to intern, and very few seem to be successfully fleeing.
This includes some 5,000 Tawarga residents. After the predominantly black city was attacked by Misrata rebels, the residents were herded into refugee camps in Tripoli. When those camps were attacked by the same rebels days later, they scattered. Some ended up in Sirte, one of the few places inside Libya where having black skin isn’t a one way ticket to a prison cell. Presumably these Tawargans will find themselves under even deeper scrutiny if indeed the rebel forces capture them again, though prison space seems to be running low across a nation where open-ended detention is becoming the new normal.
I hate these rebel stooges more and more each day. When are the "free and fair" elections coming?
they still have to kill off anyone who might challenge the TNC's claim to power.
Jabril learned well under Gadhafi, despite his expensive suit
I blog on a few sights and what I find amazing are the cheerleaders for this war. They are the ones called for death and yet thier first line of defense is to call you a Gadaffi Lover.
Wait one second folks. I don't seem to recall anyone saying we should bomb civilians or the "Rebels". I have and I will continue to point out that the Libyan government was a mixed bag. I have also pointed out from day one that it could be worse. Again to do so means I am a Gadaffi lover. Why? Because if you admit the good along with the bad you are apparently kissing up to Gadaffi. If you point out that they were a beautiful nation with wealth, prosperity, education, health care, etc. You must Love Gadaffi. If you don't support bombing civilians you must love Gadaffi.
What a bunch of brainwashed psychopaths.
Brad,
Indeed Libya was wealthy but the wealth was controlled by Gaddafi and his sons and cronies around him.The rest of the Libyan people got the Table scraps.Gaddafi ruled Libya in Stalinist way.He confiscated private properties. He outlawed any form opposition.Health care was in ruins,Many Libyans needing good medical care had to sell what they have to travel to Tunisia and Egypt for treatment.To Libyans,Gaddafi government was not a mixed bag.
I have asked this same question to many others. Please show me one bit of evidence to support this claim. Yes I believe that the government had problems but just take a look and see which nation was rated #1 in all of Africa.
Do you honestly think it will be better after we helped bomb them back to the stone ages?
Libya and it's people will never again be as well off as they were, not in our lifetime. Look at our history of intervention and show me one nation that was better off because of it.
Brad,
I am from Libya .Libya was ruled by abslute tyrant who controlled everything for over 42 years.What do you mean by rated#1?Do you mean gross income ?If you use that and divide by population then It would show that Libya as rated #1.But the true picture is not what you think.I know it because I saw it.
and hypocrites!!!
I remember people protesting BushCo's war on Iraq with such fervor, no one was throwing around "Saddam Lover" at all. And history shows Saddam was much more brutal.
But the Liberals got their man running the war and directing / backing the killing, so strangely its all good.
I don't know how to be selctively antiwar. I guess my thinking is intervening in a foreign country's internal affairs that never attacked us is lame and old-fashioned. I only believed the Libyans, had they popular support, could have pulled off a Tahrir Square peacefully, but it seems they opted for violence first.
Why they were concerned about Libya and not so much Syria, Bahrain, Yemen or Palestine is unclear to me. Was it the oil? Nah couldn't be, right?
War is where high achievers win over those slower of thought, war being a test to see who can rationalize problems the fastest and take corrective action the soonest. Capitalism the same way, for it puts you on a fast track to power and wealth.
Yes, but those in a worrier profession with fastest ability to kill, their type of intelligence is worthless for running a moral, fair and just government. For fast thinkers have a dictator mentality, “its my way or you hit the highway” push, shove and deadly force type of mentality. So, why is it that only those who win wars are allowed to form governments?
Well, it all depends upon what you think life is all about, to maximize temporary emotional pleasure, or to achieve permanent mental happiness. To take all you can take or to give all you can give.
Guess they're the wrong kind of "black" in the eyes of our overlords. We having to live with reality and all that.
When .Misrata rebels entred the town on Aug 12, to stop the rockets and missile attacks direct against Misrata from there,the town was already mostly empty.They have already left with Gaddafi forces to Sirte and Bany Walid.
When Gaddafi called upon tribs and towns to attacked Misrata and cleaned ,Tawarghans wholeheartedly answered his call hoping to get the port and iron and steel mills Gaddafi promised them.Couldn't they be motivated by race and color of skin?.For weeks ,they surrounded Misrata and occupied homes and killed great number of people.The y cut water ,electricity,and food from coming to the city.Gaddafi played with their emotions and responded the way he wished them to do.He pitted them against the people of Misrata .
In this video clip that show a very large number of them preparing to attack Misrata,they are chanting hey Misrata we are coming you,we will shame you.
When Misrata was under their siege no press was willing to go and nor allowed to witness the carnage they inflicted on the city and its inhabitants.Now they go weeks after and write reports full of sensationalism and short on honest prospective and facts and one sided,
isn't cutting off power and water to a civilian population not involved in the fighting a Nazi Supremo war crime?
http://www.debka.com/article/21335/
DebkaFile: "Qaddafi and his sons have raised a new army of 12,000 soldiers – all fighters of loyal Touareg tribes of the Sahara, debkafile’s military sources report."
Salem, a question for you.
Isn't it true that the social programs instituted by Qaddafi, such as free education and free medical help, benefited the population? Isn't it true that every young family was receiving financial help? Isn't it true that many young Libyans were studying abroad?
Doesn't look to me like the wealth was concentrated only in Qaddafi's family hands. Libyan Jamahiriya was loved by many Libyans. They are afraid to admit it now, of course, but it doesn't change anything. According to the CIA Factbook, Libya was much better off than many neighboring countries. https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-worl…
No .It is not true.No.It is not true.The vast wealth was concentrated in the hands of Gaddafi"s family.Every sector of the economy was controlled By them.Libya has much loer population than its nieghbors ,many of them did not have vast oil .