US and Israeli-led efforts to stave off the Palestinian Authority’s bid for statehood at the United Nations has failed. PA President Mahmoud Abbas will give a speech on Friday before the UN, and then submit his application for full Palestinian membership.
This could mark a turning point in how the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is approached diplomatically. For decades, the relevant parties have been narrowly considered to be Israel, the Palestinians, and the United States.
But the UN bid, whatever happens after it is vetoed by the US at the Security Council, may shift the responsibility for settling on a solution from trilateral talks to multilateral talks in the domain of the United Nations. For example, pressure from France and Russia for a new approach has been heavy.
“The U.S. cannot lead on an issue that it is so boxed in on by its domestic politics,” said Daniel Levy, a former Israeli peace negotiator in the government of Ehud Barak. “And therefore, with the region in such rapid upheaval and the two-state solution dying, as long as the U.S. is paralyzed, others are going to have to step up.”
After all, the Palestinian decision to go to the UN was a recognition of the failure of the so-called “peace process,” wherein the US and Israel rejected the viable two state solution in favor of gridlock and continued Palestinian dispossession. Abbas’s long-awaited official request on Friday could mark the beginning of the end of that status quo.
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Netanuahu killed of the possibility of Obama/US commencing solving the problem by Netanyahu's humiliation of Obama when there was no need to, and not ending the settlements. The U..S. should wash its hands!
America losing it's role as world leader has been long overdue and deservedly so. They are not fooling anyone with their fine speeches declaring moral and political values. Everyone knows that when America acts it's because of greed or submission to israel. A leader need to shows leadership. Constantly kissing israel's sphincter is not a sign of leadership but the opposite.
The "peace process" was always a sham and Palestinians are wise to have walked away from it.
The past 20 years have been all about Israel playing for time, importing more settlers, and stealing more land.
After humiliating the US and Israel at the UN, Palestinians need to immediately follow up with massive peaceful protests. Let Israel join the 2011 club of Middle East regime mowing down peaceful protests.
In 20 years Israel has taken 100 billion dollars of our tax payers dollars. BTW Israel regime started mowing down peaceful protests a really lone ago. The zionist who were leaders once allowed several hundred jews to get killed on one ship. It is time to wish Israel well and allow those of the United States who cannot be 100 percent loyal to USA like J. Pollard and the other Jewish spies to relocated. .
"Abbas’s long-awaited official request on Friday could mark the beginning of the end of that status quo."
Lets hope so. Like the posts said earlier, This resolution is the ONLY alternative to violence.
Or is it?
Why can't both sides sit down and negotiate honestly like Jordan and Egypt did?
One reason might just be because neither Jordan nor Egypt were stealing the other side’s land, water, and properties or destroying their homes and agriculture before, during and after the negotiations.
Because Israel wants all of Palestine, it continues with illegal settlements, it massacres civilians in Gaza and Lebanon, it holds about 9,000 Palestinian internees, it conducts a middle-ages type siege on Gaza, it lays claim to natural resources off the coasts of Gaza and Lebanon, it conducts a brutal 44-year occupation in the West-Bank, it continually engages in the PR of negotiations whilst continuing to steal Palestinian land and humiliate the Palestinian population etc. etc. etc.
I don't think that is entirely true, Die. Ideally Israel would like to have a place to park its Arab and Christian citizens so that they keep the Jewish majority in Israel and palestine is the ideal place to do that via the two state solution. So sure, they want additional parts of Palestine, but they would like to leave them the less desirable chuncks of desert and get Jordan to kick in more Jordanian land and make that Palestine. Then dump enough non-Jews there so that their majority in Israel is never threatened.
No doubt. The non-jews living there will already outnumber the jewish population in a few years time. Israel likes it the way it is. Pack in all the arabs in gaza and starve them to death, and kick the rest into jordan. Jordan has how many palestinian refugees? Loads. That's the way they want it.
Gee and one has to wonder why kind heart people like you were never liked anyplace they lived.
At that point, we can all sit back and watch them hash it out. One sect of jews against another, Haredim, Shepardi, black Hebrews, Zionists, Orthodox….oi! That is going to be quite the spectacle. The best part is that they won't be able to accuse anyone of "anti-semitism" and denying the Holocaust and blah blah blah because they're all jews killing jews. Ha ha!
The fact that Israel is going into a civil war is a story they do not like to talk about. So the different Israel will be killing each other and the arabs who have been under their boots will be laughing and watching. The Haredim are not required to work and they are already30 percent of israel. The USA is broke and the money will stop flowing and the secular will have to support the 30 percent and hating every cent. Soon the secular will fell like the USA taxpayers paying a million to read the bible.
One more point. There is no honesty in the Israeli policy regarding the Palestinians – they just want their land and for the Palestinians to disappear into Jordan.
Perhaps because Jordan and Egypt were states, and the negotiations were conducted on the state level.
Negotiations between Israel and Palestine are negotiations between an occupying state and the occupied.
You do understand, that in order to travel to NYC and back to Ramallah, Abbas has to travel through Israeli checkpoints and immigration. Essentially his travel is under Israeli control.
And since the Israelis will not allow an international airport in the occupied territories, he has to go to Jordan to catch his flight.
Not sure how there can be fair negotiations when one party holds all the cards.
Because Egypt had killed hundreds of Israeli soldiers right before that. And Egypt had gained a twisted respect from Israel. Israelis will not negotiate if they are not afraid. The Palesinians are powerless. That is why US's unconditional support of Israel is so destructive to the peace process.
Because Egypt and Jordan were never fullly occupied territories under Israeli rule. Both countries were in a position to negotiate. Even so, Egypt's Sinai is still a sore point, as the type of conditions involved in getting Sinai to return to Egypt, are still a sore point. However, the "negotiations" between occupied and occupier are never successfull. In wars, peace treaties determine what happens to the party that lost. After WWII, Germay and Japan had terms imposed upon it, and over time, the occupation gives way to normalizing of relations. This is a case of the occupier pretending not to occupy, playing for time until more of the occupied land can be settled and eventually kept in perpetuity. Pretending that this is negotiation comes to an end.
They will still have a long way to go, but the propects are promissing. The dice has been cast.!
America itself is party against palestinians how they will act as a broker. America is a state which has lost it,s credibility as they are bioast arrogant, brutal and killera as well as liers.
America has lost their friends around the world because they are not trust worthy.
End all Foreign Aid in the region ,and see how fast they sort this out
Why was it OK when the Zionists to have blackmailed the UN into dividing Palestine and creating the racist settlement of Israel back in 1948 – but not acceptable for Palestinians to do the same on a portion (- yes, a portion, since Israel had expanded well beyond what it was awarded in the UN partition and before the 1967 war) of the its own territory the UN had awarded it! Imagine the absurdity! Where was the need for a negotiated resolution then?
Facts be told, it’s not just Palestine these Zionist racists have occupy, but the US itself. When an American President can be poked in the eye by the leader of a dependent colony in his own home ground and to the adulation of an applauding Congress, you don’t have to be a pundit to see who calls the shots in the US – damn interest of the US or its citizens whose tax dollars, by the way, makes the occupation possible. And, their Bush-man wondered why “they hate us so”! Will Americans ever get back their sovereignty? Not while they lie supine while their leaders outdo one another in pandering to their foreign masters….
That is the question the entire world is asking. If you ever get an answer to it, let the rest of us know. 🙂
“The U.S… so boxed in on by its domestic politics”
Very true, and our rich nobility being always super careful not to cause a real American Revolution, they may very well have paid actors Obama, Abbas and Netanyahu perform an illusion of a two state solution.
Grand scheme of things being to maximize profits in the greatest money maker known to man — trading war materials for Middle-East oil.
The Gaza concentration camp – how long before the US funds the building of ovens by Israel? – isn't that the Israeli plan? – to murder all of the Palestinians and to steal their lands.
“how long before the US funds the building of ovens by Israel?”
Problem is, the dozen super rich family dynasties that rule Israel — they don’t have a plan. For since the Gaza holocaust of 2008, with nothing but a starvation diet allowed into Gaza, with the men having nothing to do but make babies in Gaza, grown from 1.4 million to 1.5 million has Gaza.
They would need the gas from Egypt. I don't think the Egyptians are going to agree to that. Start to worry when you see the US invade Egypt.
The real Jews not zionist must hate how the zionist lie and distort there religion.Ilove that Plalistine is finaly not letting America and Israel to talk about peace when that was never intended.Turkey standing up to the crime commited by the zionists most likely will start a similar response from others witch is great.Its also long overdue.These zionist crimes need to stop and real Jews can show the world they are good people and nothing like the zionist muderers.I love this and hope it get worse for Israel and there Talmad reading zionists a book that is so evil it might as well have been writen by thr devil himself.God has no cast ststem and we are not saved by support of the Jews but from Jesus Christs sacrifice.Christians need to read the bilble and not have a prist or paster iterpeting it.No one nows if the person you learn your fait from even pleases GOD.Also religios racism needs to stop. Treat other the way you want to be treated.For all we now the saying might be true there are many paths to GOD.Know one should say with 100 persent certainty that there religion is more correct than anothers its all your human desision.Mabe a none religious person that was good kind through life will not be loved and saved.
I'm surprised Israel didn't send in Mossad to the rescue and that is a victory in and by itself. As for Oblahblah, good job of reading the speech written by AIPAC at the UN. A shill is a shill is a shill, may he be re-elected in hell.
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