The US raid that killed Osama bin Laden in Abbottabad came without any permission from the Pakistani government. Most people overlooked this given the nature of the target, and assumed the attack was a “special case.”
White House spokesman Jay Carney, however, suggested that this was a precedent-setting event, and that President Obama “reserves the right” to launch comparable attacks into Pakistan in the future.
“He made very clear during his campaign that that was his view,” Carney insisted, adding that he “feels that it was the right approach and continues to feel that way.” The move clearly didn’t set well with the Pakistani government, which already expressed concern about the incident.
The situation really was a “special case,” and analysts say it is unlikely that the Pakistani government will file an official complaint about this particular raid. If this is the “new normal” for President Obama, it could well do more harm to US-Pakistan relations.
So sovereign boundaries mean nothing to the USA now. They seem to follow the leading of Israel eventually but it takes a little longer time. When all countries of the world start to operate by the new Obama "international law", look out for international chaos. And now I don't believe that Obama is a Christian if the willful killing of someone you deem to be evil complies with the teachings of Jesus.
Shooting an unarmed man in front of his daughter seems a little chickensh*t to me. I don't for one minute buy the 'he was reaching for a gun' story- how many people on the street have been summarily shot and killed because 'he was reaching for a gun'? At this point one of my concerns is for the 12 year-old daughter who witnessed the killing- where is she and what fantastic pressure is she being put under to tell the 'right' story? And what of the young wife of OBL, the one who was shot- where is she and what is she being instructed to say?
As for all the Pakistanis who were zip-cuffed and 'left to be discovered'- why were they left behind? With the current fashion of rounding up everything that looks like an interesting target, you'd think every one of those people would be in Gitmo waiting for their trial within a few days- no prep time needed, they were caught red-handed in his house, so that's all we should need for a conviction, right? We know for a fact those people were aiding OBL directly, if our system at Gitmo is worth anything, we should be having trials on them already. If not, the whole thing is exposed as a sham.
Of course it's chickenshit. These so-called "elite warriors" are extremely brave – when they've got you outmanned and unarmed. Otherwise they're just a bunch of whimpering pussies!
So, President Slappy Obama "reserves" the right to murder? Wow, that's pretty dang unconstitutional. Oh wait I forgot, America don't need no stinkin' Constitution.
that is correct, the word is murder, these so called brave seals deserve the same treatment as the guy who shot Jessy James.
C'mon now, you knew it would come to this, didn't you? You don't think that "precedent" is only going to apply to foreign countries, do you?
Quite obviously, others will demand the same liberties. Even former friends, like Bin Laden.
Create a monster, Kill the Monster, Dance on his grave, Wave the Flag!!!
Its way past time that Americans take a good hard look at themselves and what they have become. Then when they finish taking that hard look at themselves they should consider what they look like from the rest of the worlds perspective.
American exceptionalism makes it impossible for Americans to really look at themselves. Probably most empires had this same fatal flaw.
Most Americans haven't the slightest idea how their country is perceived in the world.
In many places, being known as an American is a distinct liability. Jumping up and down waving the flag and shouting "USA! USA! USA!" will win you a very quick trip home in a horizontal box, assuming there's enough left of you to ship.
You are right, and they do not wish to know. They are quite satisfied sticking their heads in the sand and claiming we are the greatest country on earth.
Definitely precedent settling. Let us bow to the newly anointed Cesar of the Planet.
Another precedent was formed today as well, the ICC has indicted three individuals in Libya for War Crimes and Libya is not a signatory to the ICC, not unlike a certain United States of America.
Will that mean that after Gadaffi is prosecuted the ICC can indict Cheney Bush and Rumsfeld for War crimes as well?
Precedents can backfire just as easily as they can aid!
I don't really see anything new about this, Jason. It seems to me it's been the policy of US governments to act unilaterally anywhere and everywhere in the world for quite some time.
That's true — Reagan and Grenada, Bush Sr and Panama (hell, just about every president and Panama) and Latin and South America have been smacked around for 150 years every time they try and put a reformer in office. Korea, VN, Middle East. What we did ( or started, we let our thugs pursue the non-reform movement) in Guatemala from 1954 to 1985 is little known to most of our citizens but it's known in detail throughout the Americas below the Rio Grande.
But these last two guys have raised the imperial Presidency to an art form and it's starting to look like Obama will end up claiming the Executive branch has the right to do whatever occurs to the president any time he feels like it. No due process, unlimited surveillance of citizens, killing citizens, ignore other countries borders, he's as big a believer in regime change and targeted assassination as anybody. And you get the feeling he's just getting started. I hope future presidents who'll get to operate as if they are president of the world appreciate the gall Bush and Obama have had when it comes to taking advantage of some vague language in the Constitution about 'Executive power" and running with it.
Nobody else will, but the presidents to come are going to love it.
My Name Is Barack — I Vow To Attack. Wherever And Whenever I Please. You Cannot Stop Me.
Why stop at Pakistan? Anyone in the world, including US citizens, can be on Obama's hit list.
Further proof of the rise of the fascist empire, Republican or Democrat, it makes little difference. This precedent was set long ago.
Pakistan should give up it's nukes…. after all what is the point of having them if you're getting bitch-slapped anyway…. their govt is the most pathetic and weak of any on the panet… Any other country would've kicked up an almighty fuss as to what the satanic US was doing in their country murdering their citizens without permission….. What does Pakistan govt do?.. makes some whimsical comment about this not being good for peace.
The west was never fair to Pakistan and will never be.From day one since her birth they always wanted given it back to whom it was aparted,why didn't that happened in the past some many decades surprises even me sometimes because we have been ruled by the most corrupt elite you can find no where but here life of Pakistan goes on.Besides Army taking over and playing with Pakistan for 40 somes years we always felt Pride in them but 5/2 operation even took that away.Army will have to work very very hard to earn my Respect if they ever care about it. We have have our own culprits always seeking shelter in the West especially in Britin therefore the Precedent will apply there too once it becomes a new unlaw of the Planet Earth.
Jessica Lynch. Pat Tillman. OBL fake killing.
I was also thinking about the bravery story they put forth with Jessica Lynch, until she set it straight. There is no doubt OBL is dead. I suspected he had been dead for some time. The man had a kidney condition and reportedly was on dialysis. If that be true, there is no way, with stints in his arm, and years of dialysis, he was in nothing but a weakened state, if alive at all. Stints have to be replaced often, which requires surgery. My active mind thinks perhaps he made an agreement to allow them to pull off this drama for the world as he was dying or immediately after his death. The burial at sea is just toooooooooo convenient to be true.
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At this point, whether or not the OBL raid was for show or for a live target is moot. The issue at hand is that Pakistan's territorial sovereignty was violated by the US, period. The purpose of the violation is a different matter, and has no bearing on the initial transgression. Pakistan has said repeatedly they didn't want US ground forces in Pakistan, so what do we do? Send in ground forces who killed Pakistani citizens during their mission, naturally. Getting the target is irrelevant.
All nations of the world should be up in arms about this, as this 'precedent' means no one's borders are secure from incursions by US forces. I just wonder how much of an uproar there will be when Mexican or Canadian military forces pursue individuals on their own 'hit list' across the border into the US and kill US citizens during their operations. What happens when the Chinese launch an operation in the territorial US to kill or capture dissidents labeled as 'enemies of the state'? What happens when the Russians pursue their own wanted persons into the US, and a bloodbath ensues? You can bet the howls of indignation will ring from Washington across the world when other nations pick up the ball and start running with it. And who is going to listen? No one, because WE set the precedent.
Shooting an unarmed man in front of his daughter seems a little chickensh*t to me. I don't for one minute buy the 'he was reaching for a gun' story- how many people on the street have been summarily shot and killed because 'he was reaching for a gun'? At this point one of my concerns is for the 12 year-old daughter who witnessed the killing- where is she and what fantastic pressure is she being put under to tell the 'right' story? And what of the young wife of OBL, the one who was shot- where is she and what is she being instructed to say?
As for all the Pakistanis who were zip-cuffed and 'left to be discovered'- why were they left behind? With the current fashion of rounding up everything that looks like an interesting target, you'd think every one of those people would be in Gitmo waiting for their trial within a few days- no prep time needed, they were caught red-handed in his house, so that's all we should need for a conviction, right? We know for a fact those people were aiding OBL directly, if our system at Gitmo is worth anything, we should be having trials on them already. If not, the whole thing is exposed as a sham.
Obama is a lieing GOOF and I pray he get 10 times the harm done to him he has done to others in the world.Bush Rumsfeld and Dick head and all others to.
By the way is it good to know the entire world hates you.And all what you to suffer more than any person in history.
I fear this hubris. How long will the world take America's arrogant abuse before they turn against this nation and punish it the way the world punished Nazi Germany?
U.S. President Benjamin Harrison set this kind of international precedent in 1893 when the U.S. invaded the Kingdom of Hawaii and put up its own puppet government. It is still the longest unlawful belligerent occupation in the world of modern history. It doesn't surprise me that the U.S. has violated another nation's sovereign boundary. Breaking treaties is habitual of the U.S.A. and it thinking it's above the laws. It's do as I say; not what I do. So what else is new?