On Thursday, the UN General Assembly will be holding an emergency special meeting with an eye toward voting to disavow President Trump’s declaration that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel. A Security Council resolution ended with a 14-1 vote, with the US vetoing it.
The US holds no veto over the General Assembly, however, and the expectation is that it will not just be a majority voting yes, but an overwhelming majority, with the US and Israel potentially the only two “no” votes.
Israel is lobbying heavily trying to drum up at least a couple of other no votes, either in southern Africa or Eastern Europe, arguing to ambassadors that any resolution that doesn’t endorse Trump is futile, and would only embarrass them.
US Ambassador Nikki Haley was a bit more bellicose about the matter, insisting that the US would “take names” of any nations that vote against them, and in favor of the resolution. This follows the previous veto, during which she warned that the US would “never forget” those who opposed them.
They can have my name at the top of the list. The roster of nations moving away from Israel is increasing day by day, it seems. It sucks to have only one friend, Bibi, and if our history is any indicator, we’ll throw you under the bus, too, when it’s in our best interest. The word you’re desperately looking for, yet trying to avoid being labeled with, is P A R I A H.
In a corner with Trump is not going to win Israel a future.
They will get rid of Trump the moment he starts being a nuisance. He is now useful, to insure that what was supposed to be the reward for Israel’s accepting a peace deal, becomes a give away up front. He has been utterly humiliated by the new “Security” strategy, which is globalism on stereoids He was even beaten up by the “mainstream” media for his selection of topics for his speech — insisting he should have said those nasty things they put into it, and thus tell finally his voters that he has capitulated. The Zionist control him, and will be mighty easy in the end to get him crushed. But here is Zionist weakness. They have an overwhelming need for revenge and humiliation of their opponents. And in this case, Trump created quite a scare, with millions voting against Zionist globalism, and their wars for Israel’s benefit, and their own profit. They will not forgive that. Also, the people who voted, the destroyed Mid West, already destroyed on purpose and with clear intent, will pay even more. They are not going to get any relief in the growing economy, the growth being reserved by the designated few that fixed the system in their favor. Those same people will then turn on Trump, and the revenge and humiliation will be complete.
But much remains to be seen. This time the despicable Trump voters are not likely to buy the fossilized Republican neocon rubbish, and the process of alienation and confirmation of their worst suspicions will continue. But the dynamics of the need to humiliate and step on the undesirables is so ingrained in the political class that is yelling at us via all mainstream media, which includes Fox — especially Fox. Fox is trying disparately to make Trump followers get mesmerized by the Russia probe, while their stable of new Amazons is mixing up patriotism with the most arrogant Zionist globalism. Such Republican party cannot hold — abandoning its base, and convincing them that day is night and night day — will not succeed. The crack is just widening;
“Take names” – this is the big kids play area, the UN actually records the vote and in any case, it is much simpler to write “the world minus the US and Israel”.
In case you are mistaken about “never forget” see above.
What’s next? “I “double dare” you to vote against the US”. Diplomacy sunk to the level of a school hall monitor.
I want to see her tongue stuck to a frozen pole…
When the UN gets “futile” over Israel, the Palestinians have a new “price to pay”. The UN needs to impose sanctions.
UN cannot impose sanctions as US veto will take care of that. But there are many other things UN members can do. There is really very little benefit to them by retaining diplomatic relations with Israel. The economic relations are for the most part marginal with most other countries — other then US. The problem with US recognition is not the issue of Jerusalem, it is the issue of brushing aside any notion of negotiated peace settlement, and declaring occupied territory to belong to Israel — end story. One sided decision making is telling that loud and clear. So, the dilemma for the rest of the world is a complicated one. If everyone just goes along, there is no international law any more. Anybody can decide to define their own demands, and if there is force on their side, do what they please. This is a HUGE setback to hundreds of years worth of advancing international law, and it is a slow process, but worth supporting. Just as it has not been natural state of affairs for countries to have a justice system based on law, it has evolved remarkably over centuries. Same is true of international law, only the subjects are states, not individuals. The problem with Zionist concept of international law is — globalism. It is a concept that takes away the rights of sovereign states, and tries to replace it with identity group rights and policies. The notion of “universal human rights” is their idea of empire-based, global, borderless world.
Trump has in his foreign policy strategy of April 2016 repudiated just such globalist ideas. He stated that the subject of international law is nation-state, not universal human rights. The wars that engulfed so much of the globe he attributed to undermining states, state institutions, and its legal and security systems. Thus he had to swallow his pride and accept the document shoved down his throat by he very Zionist that push globalism and American interference in every corner of the world.
There will hardly be any benefits to the economy if the imperial spending continues — but for how, the show must go on, until Zionist controls are firmly in place to control whatever is left of the democratic process in US. We have the Congress, people who refuse to do their job, and are servile to the minute demands from Zionists. The neocon label is not useful any more after Jerusalem. Now, we are all Zionists, after our President stepped forward to destroy international law, rights of sovereign states, and elevated globalism to the official security strategy.
“UN cannot impose sanctions as US veto will take care of that”
The US only has veto power on the Security Council, not in the General Assembly.
There’s only one “nation state” as far as Trump is concerned and he’s focused on making it great again. Anything else is categorized by its willingness to help or hinder that greatness. Internationality or individual borders be damned, if it don’t work for America, it’s a target.
According to Dictionary.com
“Capital – the city or town that is the official seat of government in a country,state, etc.”
Therefore, Jerusalem is the capital of Israel because that’s where Israel’s seat of government is. If the Palestinians move their seat of government to Jerusalem, then Jerusalem will be the capital of Palestine, too.
Except that East Jerusalem is an occupied territory and Israel is the occupier. All the known international law and resolutions state that. Occupying power is not allowed to take advantage of the occupied territory to advance its own territorial expansionist interests, but this rule never applied to Israel — as it has been ignored for decades. And since possession is 9/10th of the law, Israel has established over time the intent to possess West Bank and Jerusalem. But it has been done by plenty of deception, so that there was no international unity over the creeping expansion. Not so with East Jerusalem. Nothing subtle about it, the intent is stated loud and clear, and other countries are now forced to either accept that international law and resolutions mean absolutely nothing, or take a stand. To sum it up, the nations of the world, you have the choice. Take your place in Zionist new world order imposed by the Zionist who now proudly control beaten down Trump, or take a stand. Taking a stand may not mean much to the arrogance of Zionism, but they know as we all do, that their Hubris has created their Nemesis, and Nemesis is on the march.
History of the region says otherwise. There was only a brief period of time that Jerusalem was the seat of gov’t. in a united Israel; that was under the reigns of King David, followed by his son, Solomon .. And it was during Solomon’s reign that the 2nd Temple was completed (that’s why the 2nd Temple was named after him).
When the Romans conquered Israel, they renamed it Palestine; however, they chose Jerusalem as the seat of Roman rule in the province and appointed a governor to enforce it. Of all of its conquered provinces, Palestine was the most ungovernable .. Jewish Tituextremists, known as Zealots, launched rebellions and slaughtered thousands of Roman and Greek citizens. This came to a boil in 70 AD, when General Titus and his Legions were sent to Palestine to totally obliterate the city of Jerusalem, as Jesus Christ had prophesied 37 years previously. The Biblical city of Jerusalem was totally destroyed by God through Titus and doesn’t exist in any form whatsoever.
Even the Western Wall wasn’t part of the Biblical city of Jerusalem. New Testament records and the Jewish historian Josephus are clear. There was NOTHING remaining of the Jewish temple, wall, or city after the siege of Titus in 70 AD.
And Jesus said unto the Jews, “See ye not all these things [city, walls and temple of Jerusalem]? Verily I say unto you, there shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.” Chap(Matthew 24:2).
Josephus wrote: Titus gave orders to “demolish the whole city and temple except 3 towers .. But for the rest of the wall, it was laid so completely even with the ground by those who dug it up from its foundation; that there was nothing left to make those believe who came hither that it had ever been inhabited. “(Jewish Wars,” b.6 Chapter 4, section 5-7).
The so-called Western Wall is actually a wall from the Roman Fortress Antonia; it was NEVER part of the Jewish 2nd Temple. Therefore, President Trump has NO authority whatsoever to announce US recognition of Jerusalem as Zionist Israel’s capital and to move the US Embassy there from Tel Aviv. In 1948, the Zionist Entity kicked out the Brits, set up Tel Aviv as its capital (Jerusalem was under Jordanian control back then), massacred thousands of Palestinian residents of Deir Yassin and sent hundreds of thousands of others fleeing into Jordan .. Thus, Trump’s recognition of Jerusalem as Zionist Israel’s “Eternal capital” is null and void. Period.
“President Trump has NO authority whatsoever to announce US recognition of Jerusalem as Zionist Israel’s capital and to move the US Embassy there from Tel Aviv”
Actually, every president since Clinton has not only had precisely that authority, but by virtue of legislation passed by Congress has been legally obligated to either do so or issue a “waiver.” Until Trump, they all did the latter.
It sure does indicate the power of AIPAC and other Israeli lobbies have in Washington. I don’t think there is any other issue with this level of consensus in American politics, if it concerns Israel everyone is expected to vote in support and that is from local sheriffs and judges up to senators and congressmen, the level of control is astonishing.
Trump has threatened to withhold foreign aid funds from those who vote against the us/aipac position. It is truly mind boggling the power, as pat dunne noted below, of aipac, israel lobby, the big footed oligarchs,e.g.adelson, et al to push the us into a postion of being an absolute pariah.
In diplomacy, these kinds of crass threats and arm twisting are done out of sight of cameras and microphones. The embassy move is a very unpopular decision but, having made it, there is no need to compound the problem by clumsily miss-handling the fallout.
Israel, for its part, could have been more helpful than shooting a wheel chair bound double amputee protester holding a flag and then claiming the shooting was “justified”.
A controversial action badly managed by both the US and Israel.
agree! Badly handled prob is an understatement.