As hard as the Obama Administration tries, the State Department “dissent memo” isn’t going away, and is continuing to dominate discussion of the US war in Syria, with the “dissenters” pushing the US to shift the focus of the entire war to imposing regime change on the Assad government.
A draft version of the memo was finally released over the weekend, and is largely in keeping with what had been reported, arguing that the war against ISIS will fail, and that the US needs a “more muscular military posture” in Syria, aimed squarely at the Assad government. The draft did not include the signatures of the officials.
What we didn’t know earlier in the week was how the argument was made, but this was ultimately not that interesting, resting as most pro-war US policy papers do on appeals to some vague “moral imperative” to impose the US solution on other countries.
The White House insisted they don’t see a “military solution” to Syria, and all indications are that the publicizing of the memo was unwelcome to them, but unlikely to change their policy.
The State Department dissenters’ position echoes that of the CIA, though their argument eschews the appeal to morality and simply claims that any suggestion that the war should focus on ISIS is “Russian propaganda.”
The Pentagon has been squarely against this push, seeing ISIS as the necessary focus of the war, and arguing that the “moderate rebels” the CIA and State want to prop up are largely non-existent, and in practice tend to boil down to al-Qaeda and its allies, along with ISIS itself.
Indeed, back in December it was reported the Pentagon had been secretly undermining a CIA arms smuggling campaign by tipping off the Assad government, because they believed a lot of the weapons were ending up in the hands of ISIS and al-Qaeda.
Pres. Obama should immediately fire the people whose names appear on the memo.
Mystery: on which side is the “boss” of the State Department? Is Kerry still in control of his own department? When did he know what? This cries out for a public hearing in the Senate where these characters must testify under oath.
Isn’t he in charge of State Department? Who are those idiots working for — Saudi Arabia? And Obama “resisting” his own employees out of. control is supposed to make us feel safe?
“Who are those idiots working for — Saudi Arabia?”
How about including Israel in that question, how many have dual citizenship?
some but most will be stooges of the Warbucks wing
Yeah,like the Saudis call the shots.Hahahaha.They are followers of zion,like our pathetic scum traitors.
These are Hillary’s people – hired by Hillary when she and the neocons were in charge at Foggy Bottom They are just hanging out at the State Dept. drawing a paycheck until they can move into the White House. What a marvel Kerry is – a guy with neither guts nor brains.
Who the hell is running things? It must not be Obama or there’d be no need for him to resist his own State Department, the CIA wouldn’t be sending unauthorized arms to ISIS, and the Pentagon wouldn’t be tattling on the CIA to the Assad regime.
Obama hasn’t got a lot of power, what made him such an appealing candidate ( to some) and such a lousy president.
Any idea where one could find a list of the people who are signatories ?
No but you can take an absolute safe bet that Victoria Nuland is one of the gang of 51. The Chinese were lucky. They had only a gang of four.
What these “dissidents” aim for is a confrontation with Russia in Syria.
The gang of 51 has already received a much more powerful answer than this Obama milksop. President Assad has met with the Russian minister of defense to coordinate their military actions against all dissidents.
The total quiet of our totally miserable “progressives” cum “Socialists” cum “Democratic Socialists” on this development proves to me that the anti-war movement in our nation is stone dead. That Ms. Clinton would not comment was expected by me but where is “Socialist” Sanders? Answer: he too demands that Assad must go now. He is deeply entangled in the Syrian mess. So much for this false “Socialist”.
The Middle East is at a stage of the religious wars in Europe after the Reformation began. Those wars were never purely religious. Politics and national power were always woven into it.There will be no peace in the Middle East until all nations there have a firm separation of church and state.
The Zionist theocracy is the most important to neuter,the rest are just reactionary to it.
I don’t think the anti-war movement is totally dead. if you go to the New York Times article and read the comments, you will find almost all the comments against the regime change memo.
F*ck him.If he let the Hell Bitches and Cheneys
Zionist minions take over the SD and defy him he deserves every appellation of poopie cockie this gumby POS deserves.
Good move Obama. Keep us out of getting even more deeply involved. Keep Assad in power. It didn’t work out so well for Saddam & Qaddafi. Thanks to us being involved, those countries are a total mess now.
And here is another mystery hence reason for speedy Congress hearings on Syria. The “gang of 51” has used the official “dissent channel” to inform the President that they disagree with his Syria policy. In essence this is the equivalent of giving the President advice. Normally such exchanges of views are never made public and Presidents have resisted to make public advise to the White House (an exception was the Watergate investigation but that was for alleged criminal conduct by a President and his advisers). Then why did the “gang of 51” go public? To influence the public opinion on Syria? To help Trump against Clinton?
Yes, this act by the “gang of 51” calls for a hearing on the President’s Syria policy. The President himself will not be asked to testify but Secretary Perry should be queried and the leaders of the CIA and the military too. And most if not all of the “gang of 51”. Let’s hear (and see) what is going on behind semi-closed doors.
Lincoln’s statement of a “nation divided on itself cannot stand”. The division within this administration on Syria must be resolved and nothing is better now than to air it en plain public. No speeches by the President. No speeches by Kerry. No speeches by the press guy.
We deserve learn (if at all) what Obama’s Syria policy by hearings in our supposedly top organization of governance: our Congress.
One of the things missing from the memo is any guarantee that ‘going kinetic’ will prevent an ultimate loss anyway. Rather than a victory and the peaceful realization of America’s ‘best of all possible worlds’ in Syria, is the real likelihood of just another weeping ulcer (at best) or (at worst) another sucking chest wound.. America – or her State Department dissidents – have yet to realize that she’s been ‘at it’ all wrong for a 15 years and still that the answer isn’t to be found in ‘bang bang’ and quislings.
Kind of makes you wonder if this was all done to make Obama look like the reasonable guy.
Have their been any statements from Bernie Sanders of this matter? I would like him to make a strong statement. And say if elected he will clean house of these Neo con/Liberal interventionist.
“Kind of makes you wonder if this was all done to make Obama look like the reasonable guy.”
That’s exactly right. Obama today is totally focused on his “legacy”, especially not jeopardizing his Nobel Peace Prize (despite the fact that he’s been doing so all along by starting FOUR more wars than Bush did.) Obama couldn’t care less at this point what happens because he’s on his way out.
As for whether he is “in control” – he never was. He is as Pepe Escobar calls him a “paperboy” – he delivers the news from his masters in Chicago and elsewhere. He does what he’s told, although he makes great effort not to do something he can be easily BLAMED for when it goes south. His sole function – like any other Chicago black hustler – is to “look good”.
The value of this State Department memo is it proves exactly how Hillary Clinton is going to roll – right into Syria and right into conflict with Russia. Start developing your plans for nuclear bomb shelters or moving to another country now before WWIII gets rolling…