President Obama’s recent speeches condemning the Crimean secession as much worse than anything else in recent history have raised a lot of eyebrows, as yesterday he bizarrely tried to portray the bloody US occupation of Iraq as much less of a deal.
But Obama appears now to be inventing events wholesale to try to rebrand them, claiming that in contrast to the Crimean secession, Kosovo seceded from Serbia after a referendum organized “in careful cooperation with the United Nations.”
While Iraq may have been a bizarrely skewed interpretation of what happened, Kosovo is just a flat out lie. There was no referendum, UN organized or not, at any point around the 1999 NATO invasion of Kosovo through the 2001 imposition of secession and the 2008 declaration of independence.
Kosovo’s provincial assembly did hold a referendum on the possibility of secession in 1991, but it was not done with UN backing, nor did the US or anyone else even recognize the result. Albania was the long state to recognize the vote, and it was never cited as justification in NATO’s 1999 war.
The only other referendum to take place in Kosovo came in 2012, under Obama’s watch. In that vote, 99% of Kosovar Serbs in several northern districts voted against being part of an independent Kosovo. As with the 1991 vote, the US rejected its validity.
He was present at that meeting which took place behind closed doors, he even shake hands with Hashim Taci the leader at the time of Balkan mafia, congratulating him for becoming the president of Kosovo. Where do they find these "intellectuals Harvard" educated for presidency. I mean don't get me wrong, we are talking about THE power of the world and they claim that they ARE the democratic system in the world wanting to rule the world, hence, the only thing know about democracy is Abraham Lincoln. From US representative to UN to the president and that Hillary Clinton they need to start attending the USA political and military history classes organized by whomever, I mean a real one, not the one that they are teaching in Harvard.
Why are people up voting this nonsense post?
And what would uncareful 'cooperation with the' UN have been like? Recall that his own 'careful'-ness presumes people "as combatants […] unless there is explicit intelligence posthumously proving them innocent." Whereupon, it might be presumed, such explicit intelligence is to be 'carefully' hunted down, and, when convenient, tossed into the sea along with the 'combatant.' Hey, reckon there's a similar principle of 'care' involved in his inter-gov't insinuations?
The MAN is a liar who now cannot deferetiate between TRUTH and the lies he utters.
Well exposed.
To him truth does not exist. It is to be invented by elected leadeers. That makes them sacred to become elected. He swore to fprotect the constitution, and he does so, as and when he so f pleases. USA are outliving the brutal reality of pragmatism.. As did Mussolini and Hitler. .
Has Obama finally jumped the shark?
"Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past."
—George Orwell.
Well done Antiwar. The basics of Kosovo are even grimmer when one comapres the story of NATO's intervention that was "illegal but justified", with some facts on the ground. The supposed referendum that never happened in 2008 paving the way for secession, was EIGHT YEARS AFTER presumed brutality by Serbian forces. During those eight years, US followed UN Resolution 1244 that was put in place AFTER the conflict. NATO (KFOR) came in as peace keeping force UNDER UN Resolution that explicitely confirms Serbian sovereignily over Kosovo, required that Serbian border guards be returned in six months afrer UN assuming protectorate functions. US and EU basically violeted UN mandate, and UNDER NATO, over 300,000 Serbs, tens of thousands of Roma and Gorani were forced to flee,to Serbia, while the borders with Albania were open to massive illegal immigration. Having thus ethnically cleansed Kosovo (with exception of the pocket of Mitrovica on the boirder with Serbia), Pristina assembly voted for independence! NATO actually oversaw for eight years the brutality of ethnic cleansing, as well as culturocide, the burning, bombing and desecration of OVER one hundred of mediaeval monasteries, churches and graves. And with Albanian immigrants who do not speak Serbian as Kosovo native Albanians did, the alteration of "reality on the ground" was complete. US called the proclamation of independence "reality on the ground'. Well, so is Crimea, minus ethnic cleansing.
President Obozo is an international embarrassment. Well and he's presidentially stupid.
Again, I have to return to my pet peeve…how many of the so-called journalists sitting (and supposedly reporting) in front of him at this speech bothered to ask him to clarify his obviously incorrect statement? WTF are they there for if they're going to take what they hear as gospel – they could just take the text of the speech off the WH website and cut-and-paste it into their "report."
Even the European journalists who are usually keen to promote themselves as knowledgeable were silent. And people wonder why journalists are respected about as much as used car salesmen and telemarketers.
Maybe the journalists didn't respond because they didn't know Obama was wrong?
Most of these "reporters" were "working" 14 years ago – some may even have been in Kosovo "reporting" so, no, I don't buy it. The operative philosophy around the Presidents for the past 15 years has been that if you squeeze the President too hard (ask hard questions and call him out when wrong) your "access" to the inner circle of "journalists" dries up. Ask Faux News about that – they've had maybe 3 one-on-one sessions with Obama since 2008?
And, if by chance the "reporter" didn't know, someone back at the home office surely did and could have educated the "reporter" for a follow on query. But since he uttered the statement, no "journalist" has asked him to address the fallacious utterance.
What "journalists"? All the US of A has are idiotic stenographic presstitutes. Idiotic morons who just take down as gospel whatever the (ig)Nobel Piece Prizident says. He seems to be on a Wilsonian
messianic quest like his supposed hero "saint" Woodrow. Just my opinion, yours may vary
Perhaps an even bigger lie is that he "ended the war with Iraq". The basic facts are these. When our armed forces attacked Iraq that started a war with Iraq. The government of Iraq never capitulated or even signed a truce. It "disappeared" and was replaced by our Proconsul named Bremer. The legal state of war continued with UN approval until 2008. It ended when George W. Bush signed SOFA-Iraq 2008. It did allow US forces to act but only in consultation/cooperation with the now fully sovereign government of Iraq. All violations of this condition occurred during the Obama Presidency President Obama tried to obtain a new SOFA-Iraq in 2012 but failed. He was then forced to withdraw all US armed forces from Iraq or, if he had not done that by midnight of December 31 of 2012, place our nation legally back at war with Iraq as the vaunted "International Community" would have undoubtedly concluded. President Obama chose to withdraw all US armed forces as demanded by SOFA-Iraq 2008. He did not "end the legal state of war" with Iraq. He thereby ended illegal military actions by US forces.
My blog from 2008… http://jiriseverasblog.blogspot.ca/2008/09/long-s…
There's no denying that those who applaud Crimea's secession from Ukraine cannot criticise Kosovo's exercise of the same right and vice versa.
And look at Kosovo today, practically a mafia state.
The critique by Putin and others involving Iraq and Kosovo has allowed President Obama to cleverly set up two straw-men and most of the anti-war opposition has fallen right into the trap. The only two issues he has to be asked about now are: why did you wait until late in 2012 before you ordered the complete withdrawal of US armed forces and their civilian personnel from Iraq when SOFA-Iraq 2008 allowed you to order that withdrawal the moment you were sworn in as President of the USA? The other issue is: why did you try in 2012 to obtain a new SOFA pact with Iraq which would have allowed you to leave tens of thousands of troops in Iraq?
The issues he has chosen to address are not trivial but he must first answer his own policies and actions in Iraq especially because he claimed (falsely I believe) in 2008 that he was against the war.
The US Plutocracy is a mafia state.