Speaking today in Jordan, President Obama warned that a post-Assad Syria could be a “chilling scenario” where Islamist factions within the rebel movements thrived in a power vacuum, transforming the nation into a “enclave for extremism.”
Though Obama expressed reservations about this future, he still expressed confidence Syrian President Assad would eventually fall, and defended the US policy of backing the very same rebels he is so confirmed about.
The comments were aimed primarily at getting Jordan to agree to accept more refugees, something that also comes with a pledge of another $200 million in aid. Yet it also reflects the growing divisions within the administration about backing an increasingly al-Qaeda-centric rebellion.
This sort of disconnect in policy speeches is nothing new, and the pro-regime change crowd remains a force to be reckoned with in the US, particularly in the Senate, meaning even if the administration is getting cold feet they have to give lip-service to the old policy, for now.
Israel is "extremist haven", followed by the USA. Obama is a war criminal comparable to George Bush and Tony Blair, and with them, deserves the Nuremberg treatment.
All these talks and remarks by the west is indicating the lost of their believe that Syrian government would be changed sooner then later and then the way to Iraq and Iran would be opened by their puppets.
They all know and have felt the disastrous consequences if they ever attacked Iran, they have no other option but to give up their devilish plan and start talking, talking with a mutual respect for all parties involved.., not as a superior or super-ism or the owner of the world.., because west is not and never will be the owner of the world…, look: Obama, Hillary Clinton and rest…, all wasted money is hindered time for a universal healthcare and so for a free education for the American people.., stop diluting yourself that one day USA will rule the world. If that was the case Hitler or the Roman Empire would be in power ruling the world.
Obama and his NATO and Gulf Coast allies have made an incalculable error in Syria. While they don't want to admit it, the best course would be to disarm the jihadists and force them to leave the country, and they could start by ceasing supplying more arms and ammunition and stopping money payments to them. Let the Syrian government hold elections in 2014 and let anyone run. It is the Syrian people's choice and if they want Assad it's none of our business. If instead they vote him out, so be it as well.
Does anyone really care what Obama says anymore?
He can't even get Crazy Benny and Traitorous Abbas to make any concessions or change tack!
Obama is an embarrassment.
He's simply relaying their plans in the usual format. They don't come out and say, "We're turning country X into another failed state/corporate fascist reign of terror hellhole by sending our terrorists in to create the conditions we need to invade". No, they speak in terms that keep the uninformed guessing and wondering why.
Could be extremist haven? Well what in the hell did you think would happen, Barry, after all of your meddling? You blood thirsty louse!
Also the slave armies of ancient Rome did finally fight against Rome – how could it be that highly sophisticated US Imerialism could forget this?
They did sent the terrorists and now they have fear they no longer can control them?
May be the Islamic symbolism of the cut off of the penis of the US Libyan ambassador did work.
Regarding USA 's successful breeding of islamist extremists one should know how and what they did:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/9-11-analysis-from-r…
Some key excerpts:
“The United States spent millions of dollars to supply Afghan schoolchildren with textbooks filled with violent images and militant Islamic teachings….The primers, which were filled with talk of jihad and featured drawings of guns, bullets, soldiers and mines, have served since then as the Afghan school system’s core curriculum. Even the Taliban used the American-produced books,..”, (Washington Post, 23 March 2002)
“Advertisements, paid for from CIA funds, were placed in newspapers and newsletters around the world offering inducements and motivations to join the [Islamic] Jihad.” (Pervez Hoodbhoy, Peace Research, 1 May 2005)
“Bin Laden recruited 4,000 volunteers from his own country and developed close relations with the most radical mujahideen leaders. He also worked closely with the CIA, … Since September 11, [2001] CIA officials have been claiming they had no direct link to bin Laden.” (Phil Gasper, International Socialist Review, November-December 2001)
USA Afghanistan Taktik unclassified.
http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/nsdd/nsdd-166.pdf
Also the slave armies of ancient Rome did finally fight against Rome – how could it be that highly sophisticated US Imerialism could forget this?
They did sent the terrorists and now they have fear they no longer can control them?
May be the Islamic symbolism of the cut off of the penis of the US Libyan ambassador did work.
Regarding USA 's successful breeding of islamist extremists one should know how and what they did:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/9-11-analysis-from-r…
Some key excerpts:
“The United States spent millions of dollars to supply Afghan schoolchildren with textbooks filled with violent images and militant Islamic teachings….The primers, which were filled with talk of jihad and featured drawings of guns, bullets, soldiers and mines, have served since then as the Afghan school system’s core curriculum. Even the Taliban used the American-produced books,..”, (Washington Post, 23 March 2002)
“Advertisements, paid for from CIA funds, were placed in newspapers and newsletters around the world offering inducements and motivations to join the [Islamic] Jihad.” (Pervez Hoodbhoy, Peace Research, 1 May 2005)
“Bin Laden recruited 4,000 volunteers from his own country and developed close relations with the most radical mujahideen leaders. He also worked closely with the CIA, … Since September 11, [2001] CIA officials have been claiming they had no direct link to bin Laden.” (Phil Gasper, International Socialist Review, November-December 2001)
USA Afghanistan Taktik unclassified.
http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/nsdd/nsdd-166.pdf
Also the slave armies of ancient Rome did finally fight against Rome – how could it be that highly sophisticated US Imerialism could forget this?
They did sent the terrorists and now they have fear they no longer can control them?
May be the Islamic symbolism of the cut off of the penis of the US Libyan ambassador did work.
Regarding USA 's successful breeding of islamist extremists one should know how and what they did:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/9-11-analysis-from-r…
Some key excerpts:
“The United States spent millions of dollars to supply Afghan schoolchildren with textbooks filled with violent images and militant Islamic teachings….The primers, which were filled with talk of jihad and featured drawings of guns, bullets, soldiers and mines, have served since then as the Afghan school system’s core curriculum. Even the Taliban used the American-produced books,..”, (Washington Post, 23 March 2002)
“Advertisements, paid for from CIA funds, were placed in newspapers and newsletters around the world offering inducements and motivations to join the [Islamic] Jihad.” (Pervez Hoodbhoy, Peace Research, 1 May 2005)
“Bin Laden recruited 4,000 volunteers from his own country and developed close relations with the most radical mujahideen leaders. He also worked closely with the CIA, … Since September 11, [2001] CIA officials have been claiming they had no direct link to bin Laden.” (Phil Gasper, International Socialist Review, November-December 2001)
USA Afghanistan Taktik unclassified.
http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/nsdd/nsdd-166.pdf
Also the slave armies of ancient Rome did finally fight against Rome – how could it be that highly sophisticated US Imerialism could forget this?
They did sent the terrorists and now they have fear they no longer can control them?
May be the Islamic symbolism of the cut off of the penis of the US Libyan ambassador did work.
Regarding USA 's successful breeding of islamist extremists one should know how and what they did:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/9-11-analysis-from-r…
Some key excerpts:
“The United States spent millions of dollars to supply Afghan schoolchildren with textbooks filled with violent images and militant Islamic teachings….The primers, which were filled with talk of jihad and featured drawings of guns, bullets, soldiers and mines, have served since then as the Afghan school system’s core curriculum. Even the Taliban used the American-produced books,..”, (Washington Post, 23 March 2002)
“Advertisements, paid for from CIA funds, were placed in newspapers and newsletters around the world offering inducements and motivations to join the [Islamic] Jihad.” (Pervez Hoodbhoy, Peace Research, 1 May 2005)
“Bin Laden recruited 4,000 volunteers from his own country and developed close relations with the most radical mujahideen leaders. He also worked closely with the CIA, … Since September 11, [2001] CIA officials have been claiming they had no direct link to bin Laden.” (Phil Gasper, International Socialist Review, November-December 2001)
USA Afghanistan Taktik unclassified.
http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/nsdd/nsdd-166.pdf
some more background:
Ex-CIA officer: Braindead West wants Jihadists to rule Libya (at 5:00):
watch?v=8FMXud80xI0
French defense expert:
At 3:50: USA they "have a secret agreement with the Jihadists: YOU GET THE SHARIA AND WE GET THE OIL"
watch?v=lZKA0F0XQDI
globalresearch.ca reporter from Libya:
13:20 NTC people told me, it was the USA who brought in Al Qaida. Libyans do not want the islamists, but the US wants them and is controlling them.
watch?v=nsKx7kbvkJA
US-Presidency Candidate Ron Paul at 1:06 "I think CIA shouldn't have orchestrated it (murder of Gaddafi) and buy in the Al Qaida."
some more background:
Ex-CIA officer: Braindead West wants Jihadists to rule Libya (at 5:00):
French defense expert:
At 3:50: USA they "have a secret agreement with the Jihadists: YOU GET THE SHARIA AND WE GET THE OIL"
globalresearch.ca reporter from Libya:
13:20 NTC people told me, it was the USA who brought in Al Qaida. Libyans do not want the islamists, but the US wants them and is controlling them.
US-Presidency Candidate Ron Paul at 1:06 "I think CIA shouldn't have orchestrated it (murder of Gaddafi) and buy in the Al Qaida."
The U.S.A., Israel, The UK, France and friends have overtly and covertly stoked the flames of chaos, in the ME. Effectively rendering perceived or real enemies of Israel, divided and weak. The horrible term, the "Arab Spring" is nothing more than a hellish nightmare. Obama has willfully carried the torch passed on to him by Dubya and his gang of war criminals.
The U.S.A., Israel, The UK, France and friends have overtly and covertly stoked the flames of chaos, in the ME. Effectively rendering perceived or real enemies of Israel, divided and weak. The horrible term, the "Arab Spring" is nothing more than a hellish nightmare. Obama has willfully carried the torch passed on to him by Dubya and his gang of war criminals. Next stop, Iran.
The U.S.A., Israel, The UK, France and friends have overtly and covertly stoked the flames of chaos, in the ME. Effectively rendering perceived or real enemies of Israel, divided and weak. The horrible term, the "Arab Spring" is nothing more than a hellish nightmare. Obama has willfully carried the torch passed on to him by Dubya and his gang of war criminals. Next stop, Iran.
"Obama: Post-Assad Syria Could Be Extremist Haven"
Well you and Susan Rice, Victoria Nuland and other democracy fetishists should shoulder much of the blame for that. Don't tell me with all the eggheads in this Administration that none of you saw that coming!? Right. Sure.
"Obama: Post-Assad Syria Could Be Extremist Haven"
Well you and Susan Rice, Victoria Nuland and other democracy fetishists should shoulder much of the blame for that. Don't tell me with all the eggheads in this Administration that none of you saw that coming!? Right. Sure.
Our country is lost on the other side of the planet and is unable to attend to its own business here at home. Our hospitals are decending into the dark ages of human rights violations and that doesn’t matter to the president. Violance is rampant across the landscape and few really care. lllW
Yes Mr President thanks to you and our allies: the EU, Turkey and the GCC you will turn a sane secular Arab country into a land dominated by Islamic extremist. But of course just like no could could have predicted: the 9-11 attacks, sectarian violence in Iraq, the rise of Shia dominated governments in Iraq, the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and N. Africa everyone will be shocked shocked when Islamist come to power in Syria.
That was his and the rest of the war machine's intention, after all.
The Administration’s attitude is like “well, al-Quaida may have killed more than 3000 Americans in an attack on NYC on 9/11/01, but they are good guys at heart.” Our foreign policy is beyond stupid. I always suspected Mossad actually did 9/11 with assistance from the “Russian mob” in Brooklyn (consider the location) & that “al-Quaida” was just a fabrication.
Another possibility is that Israel is being set up; hard to believe that the Sunni Arabs (al-Q) don’t favor the Shia over “Christians” and Jews. In other words, the Zionists will assist al-Q to take power in Syria, only to face a real holocaust as a result. Not that I care what happens to Israel, but our involvement in this project is both dangerous and a waste of money.
We middle-class American taxpayer pay the $trillions for these stupid wars & to support the military, but absolutely no one gives our interest, our safety or our defense the slightest thought. The military is too busy integrating gays & teaching combat to women (good luck) to do or say anything useful whatsoever.
Also, normal Americans who have at least some college education, work for a living and generally live in the suburbs are considered by our govt. & political party leadership to be 3rd class citizens compared to a certain small sector of uneducated and un-ambitious Southerners who think that Jews are the Chosen. These Dispensationalists are not numerous enough, and not bright, competent or practical enough, that their beliefs should influence our foreign relations. Their nutty views even contradict the Bible, which they claim to uphold: if you actually read St Paul, he is clear that Christians are the Chosen, and that being “Chosen” means accepting moral responsibility. Why are they being given preferential treatment? Seems an odd coincidence that they only exist in oil-producing US states like Texas and Alaska. Could their boring sci-fi fantasies be a thin cloak for their greed? Do they only want to kill Arabs to drive the value of their own state’s resources higher? Maybe individual state governments should be allowed to weigh in on whether the people of the state support the war(s).
Continuing thought of previous post: “Maybe individual state governments should be allowed to weigh in on whether the people of the state support the war(s).”
If state legislatures had to approve military campaigns, the number of people necessary for Israel to bribe would multiply by 50. Also, Israel doesn’t have the political savvy to even approach communities not attached to large cities. Imagine the barrage of gossip that the individual pols would have to face: “My cousin Suzy works in the same administration building as his office is in, and she says that the day after the rabbi with the suitcase visited his office, he went out and bought a new BMW in cash …”
“Don’t tell me with all the eggheads in this Administration …”
Egghead refers to an intellectual, usually with the implication that despite their academic achievement, they are not practical. This administration has a lot of serious faults, but being “too brainy” isn’t one of them.
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http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2013/03/22/…
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http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2013/03/22/…
France is fighting al-Q in northern Mali. Since we are backing al-Q in Syria, Libya and Egypt, could we end up in a war against France?
This report reminded me of the Abbot and Costello movie in which the cops interrogate Costello for the whole long night with a faucet dripping. The interrogators are going nuts from the effort, especially the drip, drip, drip, and they are getting ready to abandon the attempt with the smiling idiot, who clearly doesn't know what is going on. He looks up with a smile and says “Ya know fellas, you really oughta get that faucet fixed”.
The why does Obama recognoise Islamisst, AQ and terrorist as a Sysria's democrat vioce
but not the only legitimate Goverment, that is the Syrian Goverment.
"Legitimate government" is an oxymoron.
Because the Obama-Kerry regime. as it is now, wishes to overthrow the legitimate Syrian government, which has been planned for a long time, and to do so by using their intelligence "Assets". as they are referred to, the Sunni Islamist Jihadists, – the Brotherthood and AQ – which is a plocy of insanity, but policy nevertheless.
Remember AQ was created by Washington policymakers for such operations, until one section went rogue and turned on the hand that fed them. Now the remainder have been brought back.
"legitimate Syrian government"
There's that term again. What makes The Assad regime any more or less "legitimate" than any other?
"Regime" – it's that propagand a term again, what makes the legitimate Syrian government any lass legitimate than the regimes in London, Washington and Paris?
"Regime" is no more a propaganda term than "legitimate government" is. Actually less, since most governments probably are "regimes" but to the best of my knowledge not a one has ever been "legitimate."
“Remember AQ was created by Washington policymakers for such operations, until one section went rogue and turned on the hand that fed them. Now the remainder have been brought back.”
Al-Q hated us all along, and still hates us now.
If it were just a little section of al-Q going “rogue,” then why didn’t other al-Q leaders denounce the 9/11 attack or subsequent bombings in Madrid and London?
If the remnant has been brought back to their fold as now good sheep, why haven’t any al-Q leaders publicly praised the US or Israel?
When it comes to national security, we should never place a lot of trust in some foreign group which we actually know little about, and don’t really need to be involved with at all; including both Israel and al-Q. Why take the risk when there is no gain?
Just minding our business is the best policy, and would save us $$billions, too.
Because they are Assets and Obama – you bet the hell this has been decided – doesn't want it to be known he has any link to Sunni Jihadist Fundamentalists.
But this is what Covert Operations are about.and there must be Plausible Deniability.
If it became widenly known there would be a serious public opinion crisis with the public.
Remember Vietnam?
Remember the Credibility Gap?
No, they were your creatures and created by you. Mr OBL originally was an honary captain in the American Special Forces and was given a uniform to wear.
He is photographed in it talking to Zbigiew Brisinski, the originator of this unfortunate policy.
Lastly, inolvement with thse forein groups as your paramilitaties is how Covert Operations are conducted since Truman invented them.