On the second day of his Israel visit, President Obama urged Israel to accept, in theory, the notion that Palestinians have the right to some sort of viable state, and that this state would need real, actual borders.
While that’s a tall order for the current Israeli government, which includes parties that reject the notion of Palestinian statehood and peace deals on general principle, the bigger stumbling block will surely be Obama’s call for Palestinians to drop their demands that Israel stop expanding settlements.
Obama’s comment rests on the assumption that peace talks simply need to get started, and that this means the Palestinians need to ditch pre-conditions to get things underway.
Yet this isn’t an arbitrary demand unrelated to the talks. With Palestinians attempting to negotiate for a fraction of their occupied land on which to build an independent state, the negotiations will struggle mightily if the available land keeps shrinking because of new settlement construction.
Even the “temporary partial freeze” of construction during the last of the peace talks didn’t really help much, because it encouraged pro-settler parties in Israel to just stall progress until the freeze ran out, and then insist that the failure to make a deal with sheer Palestinian unreasonableness.
President Obama conceded that settlements are “unhelpful” to the peace process, but doesn’t seem to grasp what an enormous obstacle they really are, and more importantly that a government determined to continue expanding them has no real reason to reach a peace deal.
This man needs to be changed.., not what his been promising for him to change.., what would be left of a land for the Palestinians when Israelis stealing it calling it settlement, an illegal one.., dose this man have any respect for any law but his own created laws.., what he is saying to the Palestinians is for them to be slaved by an apartheid regime as black South African people were under the Dutch white supremacy rule.., this alone shows that he is not a man of his word but rather a falsified democrat by nature as his supporters are.
Isen't it disgusting that the Palestinians are being FORCED to cede everything just to hold TALKS.
Ultimately they will have nothing anyway because the TALKS will drag on for as long as Usreal needs to ANNEX ALL of Gaza and the West Bank with NEW SETTLEMENTS.
For OBAMA to even suggest this is a measure of how devious the USA and Isreal truely are.
They are NOT interested in REAL peace in the region only in appeasing the WAR MONGERS in Isreal.
Hang you heads in shame all you who support this proposal.
Without the five billion in weapons and money the zionist could not suffer the Palestinians as they do america is directly responsible for every Palestinian murdered and that is the nature of the beast.
President Obama played his role in Driving Mr Netanyahu, a scenario that has played since he took office, and continues into his second term.Obama is more dangerous than George Bush as he is eloquent in speech and appearance but has not only accepted, but has expanded the empirical presidency and is even more a captive of AIPAc and the Militant Zionists. Let's face it: there will be no Palestian state and the only thing that is left for the Palestniians to decide is whether the will die on their feet or on their knees as they go the way of the American Indians. Mr. Netanyahu will have his dream of a greater israel and he will get it by forced relocation or genocide, with the full support of The United States. The only hope the Palestianans have is in a collapse of the American empire, but hoping for a miricle is not a realistic foreign policy.
Excuse me while I go and throw up!
Obama does not seem to follow to the Geneva Convention, which is legitmate International law. America welches on it's liabilities again. Obama is making himself a legal target(terrorist) as internnational law is written, as he is a violator of what was written, signed too, and acknoledged by the USA and other nations.
Obomber 'grasps' it all right.
Too bad Obama did have the courage to take a risk for peace by demanding the israelis end their construction of illegal settlements.
Why does the United States support Israel? Is there any encompassing explanation? Is America really Israel's *****, or is Israel America's *****? Simply referring to 'the Israel Lobby' or 'Imperialism' aren't convincing arguments to Joe Public, while 'to defend Israel', and 'defeat terrorists' are.
I do not think there is a unified consistent explanation from anti-war writers across the US or the West, which is harmful. The Israel Lobbyists however have a remarkably powerful and repetitive rallying cry, which is bipartisanship at its ugliest and most effective.
So called "talks" have been going on for over 40 years. And that is just the way Israel and the US governments want to keep it.
As long as Israel and the US have this "unshakeable" and "enduring" relationship, nothing will change, and the Palestinian people be damned.
It is just shameful to see how Israel manipulates the US, and the US lets itself be manipulated, president after president.
Obama is being forced to go along with these stupid ideas in exchange for Israel not attacking Iran. Obama is a very stupid, weak minded person so he accepts these terms.
Obama is “unhelpful”, a repeat of this stupid expression used by Condoleezza Rice. Obama and Biden have sunk to the lowest level under the jackboot of the zionist entity, and do not need further to debase themselves. There are almost 200 countries on this planet, and Israel is NOT a big deal except for the huge unrelenting fearmaking pressure put on "US Reps", plus banks, plus media, by the lobby nobody is allowed to mention.
What a missed oppurtunity for Obama to have upstaged all the Republicans ,,Congressmen and the Regan worshipers by standing before the Monstrous Israel separation wall and with his hand on it and declaring ! Take Down This Wall Built On Palestainian Land.
What damned CHUTZPAH on the POTUS's part; … and what an utterly reprehensible murderous fascist POS is Obama.
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The creation of the United States of America has turned out to be the worst man-made catastrophe ever inflicted on human-kind; and, for that matter, most of the rest of animal-kind.
Those at Echelon, and similar fascists reading this comment and 'signature', are referred to the profanity used by the sadly seemingly immortal lying manipulative War-Criminal, Mass-Murderer and Traitor Dick Cheney to some Democratic Party non-entity (as pretty much all the Democrats are).
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In addition to giving full backing to Israel's ethnocide/genocide of the Palestinians, he also picked up and expanded GW Bush's war-crimes, treason and mass-murder without skipping a beat.
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The creation of the United States of America has turned out to be the worst man-made catastrophe ever inflicted on human-kind; and, for that matter, most of the rest of animal-kind.
Those at Echelon, and similar fascists reading this comment and 'signature', are referred to the profanity used by the sadly seemingly immortal lying manipulative War-Criminal, Mass-Murderer and Traitor Dick Cheney to some Democratic Party non-entity (as pretty much all the Democrats are).
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"Israel's ethnocide/genocide of the Palestinian[ Arabs]"
Would those be the same Palestinian Arabs (as opposed to Palestinian Jews, aka Israelis) whose population is not just growing rather than shrinking, but growing faster than the population of the people allegedly ethnociding/genociding them?
Should anything approaching genuine justice ever creep up and take the World by surprise, he, his immediate predecessor, and for that matter most, if not all, of his predecessor's predecessors, those still living, would end up on the wrong end of the hangman's rope, a la Nuremberg. Ditto for their collaborators in the respective administrations; most at FOX 'News' (NAZI propagandists were hung following the Nuremberg Trials), and for that matter, more than a few at NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, and, yes, also MSNBC!
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The creation of the United States of America has turned out to be the worst man-made catastrophe ever inflicted on human-kind; and, for that matter, most of the rest of animal-kind.
Those at Echelon, and similar fascists reading this comment and 'signature', are referred to the profanity used by the sadly seemingly immortal lying manipulative War-Criminal, Mass-Murderer and Traitor Dick Cheney to some Democratic Party non-entity (as pretty much all the Democrats are).
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Mr Knapp – don't be an idiot. My meaning is entirely clear. Palestinian's reduction in number (Moslem or Xtian) is largely via murder, The Zionist entity's relative reduction in number is through various mechanisms – a few develop a conscience and just leave, or don't like living in what is not the safest neighbourhood (neither the least safe – Iraq, Afghanistan, and now Syria are way ahead, thanks to the US & Israel). They are not murdered, or suffering short longevity owing to imposition of unsanitary conditions, and having brutal sanctions imposed on them; though they thoroughly deserve both. The damned country should be disestablished at once.
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The creation of the United States of America has turned out to be the worst man-made catastrophe ever inflicted on human-kind; and, for that matter, most of the rest of animal-kind.
Those at Echelon, and similar fascists reading this comment and 'signature', are referred to the profanity used by the sadly seemingly immortal lying manipulative War-Criminal, Mass-Murderer and Traitor Dick Cheney to some Democratic Party non-entity (as pretty much all the Democrats are).
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