In May of last year, the US killing of Osama bin Laden was immediately followed by debate over the disposal of his corpse. The Obama Administration claimed bin Laden was put in a bag and hurled into the sea, which it insisted was “in keeping with Islamic practices,” whereas some were calling for his body to be kept around so it could be overtly desecrated.
WikiLeaks’s release of Stratfor emails, however, shows that the company’s Vice President Fred Burton did not believe that was the case, and told members of the company’s mailing list that bin Laden’s corpse was “Dover bound,” referring to the Dover Air Force Base which is also the site to which US soldiers slain overseas are brought.
Another email from Burton said bin Laden’s body was “bound for Dover, DE on CIA plane” and “onward to the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology in Bethesda.” Technically this would have meant the Walter Reed National Military Medical Center, since the AFIP operations were folded into Walter Reed as part of a consolidation plan.
If confirmed, this revelation would be significant for a number of reasons, including the Obama Administration’s repeated claims to the American public that the body was disposed of at sea. It would add yet more intrigue to Dover Air Force Base, already under enormous scrutiny for its mishandling of corpses and disposal of remains at a Virginia landfill.
The fact is that we will never know. Was it Bin Laden? We will never know. Was it Bin Laden, but he was already dead? We will never know. Was Bin Laden even real? We will never know.
Is AlCIAda real or does it exist only in the abstract? It seems to me that we sure claim to know a lot about a group that simply pops up or disapears at will. Who isn't AlCIAda? Better yet how many times can we kill the same exact AlCIAda leaders?
Did OBL have anything to do with 9/11? Sadly we will never know. What he was or what AlCIAda is remains a mystery, they are anything and everything our inteligence agencies want them to be.
Curiouser and curiouser.
One thing is probably for certain though- this story will NOT be blasted out on the networks news and will probably never find its way into print for more than a few hours. Probable, too, is that the people who DO know the truth behind all this are very likely getting their affairs in order for the inevitable 'death from natural causes' sure to visit them soon.
What a suprise! Our government lies again.
Lies on top of lies on top of lies.
Without independent verification you can never believe anything a politician or bureaucrat says.
There is no verification for what Burton wrote in some emails, so you shouldn't jump to conclusions.
Accusing known serial liars of lying once again is hardly jumping to conclusions.
He died in late 2001, he was on Dialysis.
Who care where his cadaver has been dumped. His right hand man is now busy plotting with our CIA and Queen Clinton to topple the Syrian government. The poor guy was the escape goat for 9/11.
Just because it comes from Wiki leaks doesn't mean it's true. It is the statement of only one man, so it's really not worth newsprint. Much Hype about nothing
A much more plausible tale than chucking him for fish chum.
Okay, so we know what the VP of STRATFOR believed. What was his confidence level for this belief? What evidence did he have? Does he continue to hold this belief?
I find it hard to believe that government officials would ever lie to us. They are our 'public servants,' afterall. 🙂
IF (sic) confirmed another lie revealed….or is/was he still alive ? In a way he is in spirit because Al Quadai (i.e.the Islamic world) is more active than ever ….
It's highly likely that Burton was purely speculating.
Which is the job description of "intelligence" professionals.
What credentials does Stratfor have that it is considered a reliable source of accurate information rather than speculation? It seems to be more of the latter.
On the contrary, the US government would want to dump Bin Laden at sea so that a good many of the world's 2.1 billion muslims would not make his burial site a shrine.
Saying it was dumped at sea would accomplish that. Keeping the "trophy", on the other hand, has a long history as the dark essence of military tradition.
Except that we Muslims don't make 'shrines' of graves. Doing so is dangerously close to 'worshiping' the deceased and that is a HUGE sin in Islam. Being an American myself, I know very well how we tend to glorify the dead and use their graves as a gathering place (Elvis, anyone?) but that sort of thing is not at all in keeping with Islamic teachings.
If the USG wanted to transparently comply with Islamic burial practices, they could have just as easily flown him to the US and buried him- in accordance with Islamic law- in a secure area (we seem to have an abundance of US land- our land- that we're not allowed to visit, a la Area 51 perhaps). As it stands, though, unless it can be proved that ObL's body was not 'buried at sea', the question is moot.
Because we all know that every Muslim follows the "good" parts of Islam but would never worship someone dead IE Muhammad??? I mean for uck sack you name your people after a dead person. it would most definitely be a place for extremism
You don't need Wikileaks to get conspiracy theories and rumors – just link to youtube. What this little bit of "Elvis sighting" will do is get more Americans killed for no damn reason.
They wouldn't get killed if they didn't sign up. Let the morons die for the super rich. Clean up the gene pool.
Ok smart Wikileaks ! tell me now who killied JFK ?
OBL is ALIVE.He was in the gas station store in Marryland asking for March PlayBoy Edition just yesterday.
proof please
I would not be surprised if Bin Laden is still alive and they are "interrogating" him.
Stratfor psy-op. Bin Laden died years before.
Easy for Wikileaks to claim since it wasn't Bin Laden to start with!
Search "A GALLERY OF FAKE DEAD BIN LADENS"
I was and remain a Disgruntled Old Coot from MANY years ago but when I saw and heard the latest politician lackey lap-dog of the ruling elite, corporate USA, etc. spewing the news about a killed bin Laden and how it appeared to me the main lackey figurehead, Obama, worded the announcement to, in my opinion, be at least partially responsible for the actual deeds that resulted in bin Laden's demise, I literally retched in disgust.
Filthy politicians…. with, possible, MAYBE, a very few exceptions and the further down the "hierarchy," to the most local level, there MAY be a very few decent politicians around that actually consider We, the People.
But, at the state and federal levels?
Lackey figureheads of their masters who will well-reward them, all legally, when the figureheads depart office.
Entrenched high-level bureaucrats are "kept in line," also using the legal "reward upon departure" routine.
Have a good day folks.
Health and happiness to all of thee.
Not so sure if the local politicians are any better, politics just seems to attract the worse and your local school boards and homeowner associations seem to be filled with the most authoritarian wannabe tyrants you can find anywhere.
Bin Laden should of been kept alive to stand trial. The Clinton's, Bush's and possibly the Obumma's, would of ended up in the Hot Seat. I would of liked to have heard what Bin Laden, might of said. I bet it would of ended the Bush's political aspirations. Which would of been better for this country. How short our memories are in this country. How the Bush's were involved in the Savings and Loan scandal. If people had remembered. The Bush's would not have taken the White House, and been able to initiate the home mortgage scandal with Freddie and Fannie. Wake up America, pay attention, will you.
I wonder if they put him in the same cooler they put Sadam and Gadffii?
The stuff that myths are created from. Gov't Truths?? What are those??
seems that all the USG has done is contribute to OBL mysticism. Lies, and semi lies , do that. Now Pakistan has torn down the place that he was found. Strange laws in effect on all this. Isn't disposing of the body , giving wrong information, and other concealing acts tampering with evidence?? As someone so accurately pointed out: We the people will never know for sure. What is being documented for history is not true either…..so OBL will be surrounded by myths, beliefs , etc and yet very little hard evidence and facts. What we do know is that he was assassinated in cold blood. Without the benefit of a civilized court of law. The tragedy is that so many targetting him along with the USG as an object for revenge. and only on what they were told by what has been proven to be a lying gov't.
I look forward to the WikiLeaked cable showing that OBL wasn't killed after all. Not the first time and not the second or third time either.