Top members of the Israeli government today informed the Associated Press that their position is that any peace deal with the Palestinians is impossible at the moment, and that a speech to that effect from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is coming in a few weeks.
The position is likely not to surprise anybody who has been paying attention, as the direct peace talks Israel had been harping on for months were killed almost immediately by the Netanyahu government announcing major new settlement expansions, and some six months later the talks show no sign of restarting.
But while officials are taking peace off the table, they are concerned that they will face even more international pressure, particularly in the wake of the high profile Obama Administration veto of a resolution critical of them on the grounds it hurt the peace process.
To that end, Israeli officials say they want to continue to take measures to convince the US that they are still “interested” in keeping the peace process alive, even though they’ve already confirmed it is long dead. This might include a return to the indirect, US brokered talks that were going nowhere early in 2010 and which, interestingly enough, Israeli officials were condemning in the past as pointless.
now that China is new our pimp , peace with war will be quit impossible
NAZISTS
list of suicide bombings
1993 (1 bombing)
1994 (5 bombings)
1995 (4 bombings)
1996 (4 bombings)
1997 (3 bombings)
1998 (2 bombings)
1999 (2 bombings)
2000 (5 bombings)
-second intifada
2001 (41 bombings)
2002 (46 bombings)
2003 (24 bombings)
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2004 (19 bombings)
2005 (9 bombings)
2006 (3 bombings)
2007 (1 bombing)
2008 (2 bombings)
p= palestinians killed i= israelis killed
2000 p-282 i-41
2001 p-469 i-192
2002 p-1032 i-419
2003 p-587 i-185
2004 p-832 i-108
2005 p-190 i-51
2006 p-665 i-23
2007 p-385 i-19
2008 p-887 i-35
2009 p-1034 i-9
this was never about terrorism or palestinian belligerence, but maintaining a conflict so to be justified in all its actions before the misinformed american public.
ever since the war of attrition when israel realized that it could not accomplish its goal with overt force alone, the goal was to represent all palestinians as blood thirsty monsters who could not be dealt with in order to enact a policy of slow displacement by making the life of the ordinary palestinians a living hell.
peace will only come when Israel's neighbors are strong enough to force a peace deal or when israel loses a major war, a prospect that is fast approaching.
Excellent post. It is facts and figures like these which give the lie to all the western propaganda about Palestine. Your conclusion is also correct, Israel has never been interested in peace, simply the creation of greater Israel, and for this the arabs need to be expelled. We can understand the American policy only in relation to the power of AIPAC. The Europeans are too cowardly, particularly the Germans, to face up to their past and what they allow in Palestine. Of course, those Arab states that should be leading the diplomatic and political (and sometimes military if necessary) charge against the Israel American axis have been bought off by successive American governments.
"those Arab states that should be leading the diplomatic and political (and sometimes military if necessary) charge against the Israel American axis have been bought off by successive American governments"
Die Wahrhiet Zahlt, your comment is right on the money, but in relation to my quotes above you know this is changing very fast. The US and Israel have verylittle time to change their behavior. I Seriuosly believe the Israeli leadership are in denial now.
Peace is impossible as long as Israel maintains it illegal belligerent occupation and mass genocide of the Palestinian whose land Israel covets.
Oh, and there is always the "Pollard option", eh? The man Israel creams its pants over continuously. Odd isn't it? I think the man has subconscious memories, much like a manchurian candidate, that when accessed correctly through a triggered response would spill out such damning evidence that they can't afford for that information to be divulged. The Americans haven't yet cracked the code and so he sits in his cell. Should the Israelis ever get him back they'd make sure he'd forget… permanently.
Sooooo… we trade Pollard for Palestinian independence, and as soon as the ink is dry on teh signatures we send in the hit squad (since, of course, he would then be a danger to the US and as we know Obama can order the assassination of any US citizen at will) and take him out. Problem solved.
John, I don't even believe that Pollard himself KNOWS what he knows. He's a vessel carrying intel much like a safe with a lock thats yet to be picked. But as far as trading him for the Palestinians? Nahhhh! The Feds don't give a damn about them. What they care about is how many other moles or embarrassing "facts" from hidden traitors could be revealed. Traitors I suspect so far up the food chain that it would make the public's collective heads spin.
Is there anyone in the US or EUs government who are asking Israel…, when is a good time for peace. Or let say.., when is it a good time for Israel to accept peace, or willing to have peace.., or if Israel wants to have any peace at all.
Look…, governments of US and EU.., the only language that Israel ever will understand is your total boycotts of Israel.., otherwise you all are going to talk yourself to death before Israel government is going to have or willing to have peace.., meanwhile they are stealing Palestinians lands and you let them to get away with thieveries and other human rights crimes…, don’t you understand that by know…? Well unless you are like them then you could play the game as you have done for so many years.., you are them.., aren’t you..? Then why would you call yourself a democrat or democracy or even civilized…, why.
Peace is impossible? As long as Israel refuses to negotiate in good faith (fat chance) it's impossible.
Peace is impossible until the Palestinians renounce respiration
renounce respiration, that's a good one
HA either that is the best freudian slip ive seen in a while or a nice piece of satire
A nice piece of irony, but Dan hits the nail on the head.
Peace is only possible if the americans stop illegal support to Israel and that is not going to happen in near fututre.
Retric will continue and americans will continue to lie on Palestinian issue. Americans are more israel than israelis.
Dear USA,
Thanks for the "veto".
We can now get back to settlement building.
Peace is no longer on the horizon.
PS Send more money.
-Israel
This week the USA lost the last veteran of the great war. He was 111 years old and he was the last of 5,000,000 who fought in the great war. Why do I mention this? Because one of the goals of the great war was to create a homeland for the Jews and a fair division of the land of the Ottomans. The goal of a homeland for the jews was forced on the war effort by rich bankers like Lord Rothchild.
Now all these years later we still have to listen to people like Bibi telling us how it is impossible to have peace with the Palestinian who were considered cockroaches by the father of israel. The real question is why do we fund Israel when it apparently does not go? We have great problem in our naiton and our elected offical all demand that we put off our retirement so we can continue to support a nation who after all these years cannot make peace. One other note is they did not get along very well with the neighbors in the last place they lived either. My feeling is if they actually were given a homeland by the Almight he would have made it an Island without others because that is were they really belong since they do not want anyone else near them.
TOMO–How times change,few months ago,a truthfull history comment such as WWi/WWII was all about creation of a religious homeland would have been banned. You forgot to mention that innocent folks in the millions upon millions died.
Correction Note: US brokered talks that were going nowhere early in 1947 and which, interestingly enough, Israeli officials were condemning in the past as pointless.
Questions:
Why didn't the Palestinians accept the division of the land by the UN in 1948, and why did they not consider Jordan as Palestine which I believe it was and make that their homeland, and why didn't Jordan give the Palestinians the West Bank when Jordan had it up to the 1967 war and make that a Palestinian state and why do the Gazans not simply make Gaza part of their Palestinian state and use the oil money from donors like the Saudis to make it a really great place to live?
Why among all oppressed people in the world with no chance of any state of their own do we owe Palestinians our sympathy (and I do sympathize with them) when they have had so many chances to form their own state but have turned down the opportunity?
Can someone please give me some convincing answers? I ask sincerely.
Israel does NOT want peace – not now and never.
Israel wants ALL of the Palestinians dead and to steal ALL of their lands.
The US is complicit in such crimes by Israel.
The truth is that war is a cash cow for Israel. Not just the American 'aid' but all kinds of 'security' industries from training 'death squads' to providing weapons to dictators, to the high technology of war and all kinds of war related industries that keep Israel as one of the most prosperous economies on earth. So who in their right mind would give up a boondoggle like this for ' peace '. Certainly not Israel Inc. and certainly not America Inc. They've got to keep these conflicts going. Might as well suggest that Blackwater/XE devote themselves to peace. It ain't going to happen, and despite the lofty speeches our politicians do not want this peace either.
This upcoming speech by bubu netenyahoo about no-peace must be the one he promised Merkel he'll deliver after she put him in his place for not doing a thing about peace.
Peace is impossible, alright, as long as the duo from sheol runs israel: netenyahoo-liberman. Once the israeli people kick these two genocidal lunatics out, then maybe peace will be an option again. Of course, that's unlikely to happen since they've been filling that piece of desert with retrograde bloodthirsty settlers.
The good thing about the end of the US empire is that israeli ambitions of hegemony will fall with it.
There already is a Palestinian state–Jordan. The Arabs have no intention of peace… the notion of "67 borders" is nothing but smoke and mirrors for the eventual pan-Arab wet-dream of a middle east without an Israel. Palestine was invented as a means to subvert Israeli claims of war booty from defeating Egypt (Gaza) and Jordan (The West Bank).
With all the talk of democracy breaking out in the middle east-what of Palestine? Those folks have elections, do they not? Are they not suppressed by a nation that has attacked US warships, and have been caught several times spying on the US? The same nation does not allow inspectors into their nuclear weapons facilities, yet are protected by the very nation they have attacked and spied upon. Talk about sick co-dependent relationships…
If peace with the Palestinians is impossible,then let it be, arabs are in no hurry to make peace with an intity that lackes the legitimate acceptance of its neighbours.Times are changing,and only fools those turning bling eyes to the unfolding of history in the M.E.
Peace is impossible with racist Israel–EVER.
If things are calm in the region, the Israelis don't see a need a to make peace. When there's choas, Israel says we can't peace now. In other words Israel has an excuse for every situation on why not to make peace.
Peace btw Israel and The Palestinians has always been, and always will be, impossible. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a delusional fool. Every supposed attempt at "peace" has been conducted just for show and then resulted in failure. A little realism tells you why. Israel is the beachhead of Western Civillization on the lands of Islam. Islam is fighting back hard, and the Palestinians have the mission of stopping the consolidation of that beachhead, and rolling it back. No Arab country will accept Palestinian migrants, because that would allow those Palestinians to abandon their holy mission. This conflict must be fought out until there is a final victor, and the vanquished party is completely annhilated. It is a fight to the death, and only a liberal or delusional fool could think otherwise.