Yesterday Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad surprised everyone when he declared publicly that the terms of the draft third party enrichment deal Western nations have been demanding that Iran sign are perfectly acceptable.
Today, as Iranians debate the relative merits of the deal and wonder if it amounts to “caving in” to Western demands, Western officials are responding quite negatively to getting exactly what they have demanded for months.
French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner said Iran’s acceptance of the deal, something France his repeatedly demanded, amounted to “buying time” and said he was “perplexed and even a bit pessimistic.” His German counterpart Guido Westerwelle said the acceptance was meaningless and called for UN sanctions against Iran for “its refusal to negotiate.”
Iran initially proposed the third party enrichment deal in late September, but balked at the draft reached at an IAEA meeting, expressing concern at the lack of guarantees that they would ever actually get the uranium back once it was shipped abroad.
Ahmadinejad rejected the concerns, saying that Iran could simply enrich more uranium if the deal was reneged on and it would prove that the nations were not trustworthy.
Not everyone was pessimistic, however, and Russian officials said it was a “positive sign” and China, long the lone opponent to additional sanctions, said it was vital to reach a solution as quickly as possible.
Who knows how each side plays the other. Is this latest surprise advantage U.S. empire or Muslim center… Who is kidden whom…?????? It would be funny but for the mountain of dead bodies the empire has murdered…!!!!!!
Well, it's pretty obvious who the smarter one is in this game.
You got that right. The Americans are way better at raging and destroying, but clueless in any game of nuance and finesse.
Yep:
It takes brains, and that really is what the Yanks dont have.
Isen't this just like the old protest song "Öne Tin Soldier""?
When the Valley People were told by the Mountain Dwellers that they would share their Treasure.
How did the Valley People react?
Then the Valley roared with anger – mount your horses – draw your swords.
And they rode up the Mountain to kill all the people and take the treasure for their own.
And what was the treasure? A Tablet of stone that said "Peace On Earth
No matter what that country does, it gets vilified…. they cant seem to comb their hair without somone in Israel getting a kingsize bug up their backsides…
It seems to me these western government officials should be doing backflips and summersaults. The Iranian government has agreed to meet their demands The only logical reason for any upset among the foreign policy elite of the West is if their plan all along was to impose starvation sanctions and wage war against the innocent men, women, and children of Iran. It use to be that negotiations were considered a success if they resulted in a peaceful resolution of the conflict. Now, in the 21st century, negotiations are only considered a success if they lay the proper diplomatic groundwork to a make it appear that sanctions and war were a last resort.
You can't "please" someone who aims to murder you. It only agitates them.
1- The entire matter is about the west and their lost of power in middle east in terms of Dollar being the money in Iranian oil trade which the Iranian have rejected dealing with dollar, the Russian and Chinese influence in Iran, the Iranian influence in Middle East and Iranian prospect on Israel and above all the prestige of the Iranian regime making sure that west always been wrong and under no circumstances would accept peace no matter the language. This time is no difference, they have set their mind on regime change and that’s it.., so if French president or German chancellor or for that matter even the Swedish communists or the Social Democrats who in both the economical and political terms have supported the Iranian fundamentalisms for last 30 years but in just few months they have change of heart and ask for democracy to be stored with monarchism…,
2- then…, one would think that: all this is nothing but the pressure from Hillary Clinton or for that matter the US government and Israelis’ into the office of French president or German Chancellor which would read “don’t believe in what they say, we have the army we can conquer the entire middle east one day”., after all this idea is from WWII is not dead yet, is just been put on hold for the right time and moment for Iran to be bombed and become the second Iraq with no running water and only few hours electricity per day. Then they (the destroyers‘) have to go back and repair what they have destroyed which is in terms of job creation is good for America and Europe.., look at Ford they make profit selling all their high use gasoline or if you will the junk cars that is bad for Americans to drive to Iraqi police and other Iraqi institutions. This is western politic at best, yet the people of Palestine and Iraqis and Iranian pays the price with their life.
Notice how Iran's acceptance of this lousy deal is being almost completely ignored, or completely denigrated in the MSM?
There's no money in Peace.
The reason Western governments are skeptical is because Ahmadinejad announcing on television that he accepts the deal is in no way the same as the nation of Iran actually accepting the deal. In order to accept the deal Iranian officials would have to sign paperwork with the IAEA and that is still a long way off. Furthermore, the final decision whether or not to sign off on the deal does not belong to Ahmadinejad but to Khamenei, and he has not made any announcement indicating he has changed his mind since the last time he said no. It's not that the West wouldn't be happy to get this deal, it's just a matter of "fool me once" etc. This deal has been on-again/off-again so many times nobody's doing any summersaults until it's actually signed.
Why is Israel allowed to have nuclear weapons and not sign any nuclear treaties and get billions of dollars of American taxpayer money? Most of the world considers Israel the greatest threat to peace on this earth according to polls i've read. Furthermore if Iran had nuclear weapons they would not use them as Iran would thereafter disappear. Lastly, only the US and Israel have used and continue to use nuclear weapons (depleted uranium) in Iraq and Palestine without the "Western govts making a peep. Why is that? Where is the fairness , justice, or rationale? How can they justify spreading radiation poisoning to so many innocent men, woman, children, and fetuses?
Britain also uses depleted uranium weapons…
God is just! Those who stuff others and one anothers will experience being stuffed> Tus spoke the Prophet.
Anonymous Westerner wrote: "The reason Western governments are skeptical is because Ahmadinejad announcing on television that he accepts the deal is in no way the same as the nation of Iran actually accepting the deal."
The reason Western governments are not merely skeptical, but furious is because the "nuclear issue" has always only been nothing but a pretext to invade Iran, or failing that, economically isolate it.
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Section E of the following text reflects my thought on the subject of this post.
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The following Israeli allegation are baseless and I’m sure smart Intelligent Israelis know they are only spreading misinformation and brainwash the sheepish consumers of the pro Israeli MSM.:
A- Iran without any doubt is pursuing the building of an atomic bomb!
(Based on “Profits of War” a book written by Ari Ben Menashe who was an Israeli insider, the Israelis, during 50's to 70s were consistently denying they were after the stockpiling of a nuclear arsenal, they even skilfully deceived a group of US Congressional Delegation who were sent to Reactor Site to investigate the issue. Hence the Israelis firmly believe the Iranians are playing exactly the same deceptive game with the world as they did then.
Part 2
However, the Iranians, during their 8 year of war with Iraq refused the offers of the foreign chemical arms-dealers for enabling Iran to produce chemical weaponry. The Iranians claim their refusal was only on the basis of their moral convictions. Thus, maybe NIE and IAEA are right and they are not after the A-Bomb.
What is certain is the intense desire of all Iranians to advance in the scientific and technological fields, including the Nuclear one. The membership of Iran in NPT and the presence of many IAEA cameras and inspectors monitoring the Iranian nuclear activity is another stark contrast of the cases of Israel and Iran )
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B- The rulers of Iran are a bunch of demented religious zealots and as soon as they get the bomb they are going to use it !!
( In view of many analysts, in practice so far, the Iranians have shown to be as clever if not cleverer than their Israeli or Western counterparts).
C- Eventually Iran might nuke Israel or Europe, so Iran is a real danger to the world.!!!
(This allegation sounds so preposterous, Iranians have learned in their long painful war with Iraq, if they nuke Israel or Europe they’ll get “totally obliterated” the next day).
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C- Eventually Iran might nuke Israel or Europe, so Iran is a real danger to the world.!!!
(This allegation sounds so preposterous, Iranians have learned in their long painful war with Iraq, if they nuke Israel or Europe they’ll get “totally obliterated” the next day).
D- Iran poses an existential threat to Israel !!
(Similar to allegation under C, the Iranians are not crazy suicidal maniacs, they are fully aware of the military nuclear superiority of the Israel and US. What is an existential threat to Israel is the rise of a scientifically and technologically advanced Iran, regardless of the regime type, be it a theocracy or secular modern democracy. Remember Bush saying “.. they should be prevented from gaining the knowledge ….”)
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E- Diplomatic approaches with Iran is a waste of energy and precious time . Sanctions, regime change (and war) are the proper avenue to solve the problem !!
(This is a flawed logic showing very clearly the deep fear of Israelis if diplomatic solutions are found to resolve all of the existing problems between the West and Iran. Many believe the staging of an untenable color revolution during the June 2009 election period where, among many tools, the naive progressive Iranian Protestors were used as neo-con pawns, and the continuous derailment of any opening for diplomacy by staunch supporters of the Israel are all the clear indications of such fear).
From the above considerations I conclude:
Eventually Israel’s Apartheid system is bound to collapse since it is against the tides of history while Iran’s drive for scientific achievement is along such tide, thus, Iran, someday, is going to prevail.
Well said humanist!
Well what chance does that give him? If he'd says 'no' they'll attack him and if he says 'yes' they'll attack him! Just like Iraq all over again.
Ahhh…be careful what you ask for;
I still think Saddam shoul have made some "Christmas" gesture in 1990, said "my bad", and pulled out of Kuwait. What would the war party have done then?